Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5: Sporadic Performance lows on Client despite Server capacity

2008-07-09 Thread Chris Roberts
On Wednesday 09 Jul 2008, Stefan U. Hegner wrote: Typical symtoms: Especially Acroread shifts to extreme slow motion and icedove (thunderbird) takes ages to move mails from folder to folder. Other software also feels significantly slower, but these two are the worst and most observed. Another

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5: Sporadic Performance lows on Client despite Server capacity

2008-07-09 Thread Chris Roberts
On Wednesday 09 Jul 2008, Stefan U. Hegner wrote: How would you guys go about debugging something like this? To state the absolute obvious (I don't know your level of knowledge), but the top command is phenomenal for finding out the issue if it is server related; doesn't help if you problem is

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5: Sporadic Performance lows on Client despite Server capacity

2008-07-09 Thread Tomasz Lewicki
Chris Roberts napisał(a): On Wednesday 09 Jul 2008, Stefan U. Hegner wrote: How would you guys go about debugging something like this? To state the absolute obvious (I don't know your level of knowledge), but the top command is phenomenal for finding out the issue if it is server related;

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5: Sporadic Performance lows on Client despite Server capacity

2008-07-09 Thread Stefan U. Hegner
Hi Chris, thanks for your ideas. Chris Roberts schrieb: On Wednesday 09 Jul 2008, Stefan U. Hegner wrote: Typical symtoms: Especially Acroread shifts to extreme slow motion and icedove (thunderbird) takes ages to move mails from folder to folder. Other software also feels significantly

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5: Sporadic Performance lows on Client despite Server capacity

2008-07-09 Thread Chris Roberts
On Wednesday 09 Jul 2008, Stefan U. Hegner wrote:     Save as optimizes for fast Web view Though this is likely to be only of minor importance. I have seen Acroread using 100% CPU for each user when this option is set. top would reveal this, though. Do a Google on Acroread cpu 100% and

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5: Sporadic Performance lows on Client despite Server capacity

2008-07-09 Thread Stefan U. Hegner
Hi Tomasz, Tomasz Lewicki schrieb: I recommend htop and atop (atop needs patched kernel - openSUSE's kernel is patched by default) to quickly find performance bottlenecks. Didn't know htop yet. That looks cool and helpful. Thanks! Stefan. -- Stefan U. Hegner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5: Sporadic Performance lows on Client despite Server capacity

2008-07-09 Thread Stefan U. Hegner
Hi Patrick, Patrick Rady schrieb: I have found that there are certain conditions where acroread plug-in in Firefox will result in CPU being gobbled by rogue ld-linux.so.2 processes. I got around this- after some research by installing lsb on the afflicted machine. This link refers to the

[Ltsp-discuss] Kiwi-ltsp, some simple questions

2008-07-09 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Hi list, - a few questions that I've not been able to find answers to, if I may :-) - can one specify per client options a la ltsp4.2 in lts.conf? - if so, how is the client identified, MAC or HOSTNAME? - can I find a list of legal options to put into lts.conf? - thank you! --

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Kiwi-ltsp, some simple questions

2008-07-09 Thread CyberOrg
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, - a few questions that I've not been able to find answers to, if I may :-) - can one specify per client options a la ltsp4.2 in lts.conf? - if so, how is the client identified, MAC or HOSTNAME? - can I find

[Ltsp-discuss] Is this going to work

2008-07-09 Thread Peter Childs
I've been having tones of problems posting to ltsp-discuss over the last 18months so I'm hoping this will appear From Peter - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Kiwi-ltsp, some simple questions

2008-07-09 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Verner Kjærsgaard kirjoitti: - can one specify per client options a la ltsp4.2 in lts.conf? - if so, how is the client identified, MAC or HOSTNAME? - can I find a list of legal options to put into lts.conf? I did this for mine for finnish keyboard. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/srv/tftpboot/KIWI cat

[Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5 runs out of memory while loading udev

2008-07-09 Thread Peter Childs
I've got a number of Thin Clients that happely run LTSP 4.2 Having not really touched them in 3 years I think it high time they got upgraded to the latest version of LTSP. I would like to be able to use the USB devices in them to read and write to USB devices, Ideally Cameras, and USB Keyring

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Kiwi-ltsp, some simple questions (SOLVED)

2008-07-09 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Asmo Koskinen skrev: Verner Kjærsgaard kirjoitti: - can one specify per client options a la ltsp4.2 in lts.conf? - if so, how is the client identified, MAC or HOSTNAME? - can I find a list of legal options to put into lts.conf? I did this for mine for finnish keyboard. [EMAIL

[Ltsp-discuss] No Sound

2008-07-09 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
As all on this list are now painfully aware of, I'm trying to do a switch from LTSP4.2 to KIWI. I'm getting closer :-) One thing left...no sound on either client, having tried two IBM thinkpads and one DELL M90. I get the expected fine KDE desktop and all, but no small speaker icon in the

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Kiwi-ltsp, some simple questions (SOLVED)

2008-07-09 Thread CyberOrg
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scenario a) Original xorg.conf from kiwi-ltsp prebuilt image DELL Precison M90 as client X works just fine IBM Thinkpad (anyone) (ATI), screen flashes in character mode with a message (barely readable, flashes too

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5 runs out of memory while loading udev

2008-07-09 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Peter Childs kirjoitti: I've got a number of Thin Clients that happely run LTSP 4.2 The other option is to get the usb ports to mount and usable under LTSP 4.2 I have used this one for Ubuntu 6.06/LTSP4.2: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev And this one for sound:

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Kiwi-ltsp, some simple questions (SOLVED)

2008-07-09 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
CyberOrg skrev: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scenario a) Original xorg.conf from kiwi-ltsp prebuilt image DELL Precison M90 as client X works just fine IBM Thinkpad (anyone) (ATI), screen flashes in character mode with a message (barely

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Kiwi-ltsp, some simple questions (SOLVED)

2008-07-09 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Verner Kjærsgaard skrev: CyberOrg skrev: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scenario a) Original xorg.conf from kiwi-ltsp prebuilt image DELL Precison M90 as client X works just fine IBM Thinkpad (anyone) (ATI), screen flashes in character mode

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5 runs out of memory while loading udev

2008-07-09 Thread Peter Childs
2008/7/9 Asmo Koskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Peter Childs kirjoitti: I've got a number of Thin Clients that happely run LTSP 4.2 The other option is to get the usb ports to mount and usable under LTSP 4.2 I have used this one for Ubuntu 6.06/LTSP4.2:

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] No Sound

2008-07-09 Thread CyberOrg
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As all on this list are now painfully aware of, I'm trying to do a switch from LTSP4.2 to KIWI. I'm getting closer :-) One thing left...no sound on either client, having tried two IBM thinkpads and one DELL M90. Do

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5 runs out of memory while loading udev

2008-07-09 Thread Horst Prote
Peter Childs schrieb: 2008/7/9 Asmo Koskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Peter Childs kirjoitti: And this one for sound: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound I did Originally, However sound is a pain most apps tend to want to talk to alsa and since the thin client is

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Kiwi-ltsp, some simple questions (SOLVED)

2008-07-09 Thread CyberOrg
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can start by specifying XSERVER=vesa, that should work in most cases, what graphics hardware have you got on those clients? Do not use xorg.conf file for now. I've got ATI Radeon something on the IBM TPs and

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5 runs out of memory while loading udev

2008-07-09 Thread Chris Roberts
On Wednesday 09 Jul 2008, Peter Childs wrote: Hmm Just have and it works, Maybe the best advise is to just not upgrade to LTSP5. With 24mb RAM on the clients, I think you should wait until such time as you can upgrade or replace the client hardware. Sound and USB both work fine on 4.2. On

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to install Nvidia software on clients

2008-07-09 Thread Jason Maas
Hi Carl, On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Carl wrote: Restart Clients, they only see nvidia-settings , non of the other nvidia tools. I have tried a few other nvidia-packages using this method, but non show up on the clients terminal. My plan was to use these tools to setup my xorg.conf file. First, I

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Kiwi-ltsp, some simple questions (SOLVED)

2008-07-09 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Hi, - please see my comments/questions in-line.. CyberOrg skrev: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can start by specifying XSERVER=vesa, that should work in most cases, what graphics hardware have you got on those clients? Do not use xorg.conf

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] No Sound (SOLVED)

2008-07-09 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Short: You Guys Rock! CyberOrg skrev: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As all on this list are now painfully aware of, I'm trying to do a switch from LTSP4.2 to KIWI. I'm getting closer :-) One thing left...no sound on either client, having tried

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Kiwi-ltsp, some simple questions (SOLVED)

2008-07-09 Thread CyberOrg
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I specify the MAC adr, with or without dashes..? config.00:1B:FC:73:BB:5B I would then note each and everyone of them subsequently by appending to the line as stated? I.e. I would append something like:

[Ltsp-discuss] Server configuration

2008-07-09 Thread Tero Mäntyvaara
If I set up Debian server with DRBL, how do I set up Full DRBL Ubuntu client. Tero Mäntyvaara - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source

[Ltsp-discuss] LTSP and Asterisk

2008-07-09 Thread Richard Rothwell
Hi All, Does anyone know a good how to on using Asterisk PABX with LTSP? Otherwise I'll have to wirte it when I've done it :-/ thanks in advance, Richard -- Richard Rothwell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Education Consultant http://m6-it.org Web services * Back-ups * Support * Training Certification

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP and Asterisk

2008-07-09 Thread Jason Maas
Hi Richard, On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Richard Rothwell wrote: Does anyone know a good how to on using Asterisk PABX with LTSP? That sounds like an interesting project! Could you be more specific as to how you want those two packages to interact with each other? Jason

[Ltsp-discuss] Kiwi versions, YaST

2008-07-09 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Hi list, - I keep going on and on and on.. - But KIWI-LTSP it is. That sound thing did it. Next installation - most likeliy a school with aprox 40 clients will be kiwi-ltsp. Oil keep you posted said the sheik :-) In YaST, when doing a search for kiwi (in order to install the kiwi-doc

[Ltsp-discuss] Edubuntu 8.04 and Terminal SWAP

2008-07-09 Thread Jason Chase
I'm trying to get NBD_SWAP working on Ubutu 8.04. http://www.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Swap#Swap_for_LTSP_4_2_and_Later_NBD Doesn't mention Hardy in the ltspswapd download and install section. Its ltspswapd included in another package for Hardy or was it renamed/replaced? I'm working on

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is this going to work

2008-07-09 Thread Jim McQuillan
Peter Childs wrote: I've been having tones of problems posting to ltsp-discuss over the last 18months so I'm hoping this will appear I see it. Jim McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Edubuntu 8.04 and Terminal SWAP

2008-07-09 Thread Jason Chase
I managed to get swap working by logging to the terminal via SSH. I added the following to /etc/inetd.conf on the server. 9210stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdswapd I ran the following commands on the terminal: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# free

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Edubuntu 8.04 and Terminal SWAP

2008-07-09 Thread Jason Chase
The last call to free looked like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 93172 89320 3852 0 1252 17020 -/+ buffers/cache: 71048 22124 Swap:32760 56 32704

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Edubuntu 8.04 and Terminal SWAP

2008-07-09 Thread Jason A. Chase
They're the NTA 6020P. They worked well with LTSP 4.2 and with swap will work great with LTSP 5. Any idea on how to get the ltsp-client-setup to initial swap using nbdswapd? I'm sure I could hack the script to get it working. I'd like to do it the right way so the next time I have to

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Edubuntu 8.04 and Terminal SWAP

2008-07-09 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Mittwoch, den 09.07.2008, 17:50 -0400 schrieb Jason Chase: The last call to free looked like this: I added the following to /etc/inetd.conf on the server. 9210stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdswapd USE_NBD_SWAP = Y its

[Ltsp-discuss] fglrx

2008-07-09 Thread David Burgess
Archives show a couple people asking how to get fglrx working in clients, but no responses. I followed instructions from ubuntuforums.org but no luck. Here's what I tried: chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get update apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx exit nano /var/lib/tftpd/ltsp/i386/lts.conf:

[Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5 and 2.6.17 on Hardy

2008-07-09 Thread Joshua Higgins
Hello everyone My current system runs a modified debian etch, with a 2.4 kernel and LTSP4.0 with openMosix patches. Everything works great but i need a more up to date system. I have downloaded Xubuntu Hardy, installed LTSP server from the alternate cd etc etc and it works! Now the hard

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] KIWI-LTSP 0.4.0 released

2008-07-09 Thread David Burgess
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Krsnendu dasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it add extra load to the server? Be cool to get it going on Ubuntu too. 2008/7/1 Asmo Koskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Krsnendu dasa kirjoitti: Does compiz also work on ubuntu clients? Is there a trick to set it up

[Ltsp-discuss] Symbio clients and Hardy Heron.

2008-07-09 Thread Patrick Rady
Hi, Has anyone out there had success using Symbio Technologies SYM1110 thin clients with LTSP on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron)? These are Geode-based devices, and there seem to be issues aplenty with Geodes and Hardy Heron. - Patrick Rady Administrator, npServ NEW (Nonprofit Enterprise at

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Detect Harddisk in Thin Client

2008-07-09 Thread David Burgess
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Amos Batto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't physically remove the client's harddrives and stick them in the server because they are IDE and the server uses SATA. Although all modern motherboards have SATA ports, I've yet to see one without one or two IDE

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Detect Harddisk in Thin Client

2008-07-09 Thread Firdaus Tjahyadi
2008/7/1 Amos Batto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK, granted that it is not a good idea to use the local harddrive in the thin client, but is it possible? it's possible i have prove it hehehehehe :) James don't bite me please hehehehe :) the key is 1. mkdir /tmp/.username-ltspfs/scsidisk-sdxy x=

[Ltsp-discuss] ubuntu LTSP alternatecd install nfs problem

2008-07-09 Thread ali rostai
hello i've installed ltsp by alternate cd. it works and clients boot and there is a login gui for clients. now i have 2 qusetions. i can not see a nfs server there is no /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server in /etc i think nfs-server is necessary for ltsp to run. should i install it from synaptic? and

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] FOSSED 2008 at Governor's Academy! Educators and developers come together!

2008-07-09 Thread Manjusha Joshi
Hi, On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:04 PM, David Trask [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spread this message far and wide! Register soon! Please register this weekI need to get the count as soon as possible! Hi all, I'm pleased to announce the 2008 edition of FOSSED (Free and Open Source Software

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] problem with NFS, please help!

2008-07-09 Thread ali rostai
Dear jim, thanks i have found edubuntu docs just now. NBD is used by default thanks for paitience. On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Jim McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ali, LTSP-5 in Ubuntu doesn't use NFS. And, you've already got the login screen, so you are way past the the point

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5: Sporadic Performance lows on Client despite Server capacity

2008-07-09 Thread Patrick Rady
I have found that there are certain conditions where acroread plug-in in Firefox will result in CPU being gobbled by rogue ld-linux.so.2 processes. I got around this- after some research by installing lsb on the afflicted machine. This link refers to the problem:

[Ltsp-discuss] ltsp-build-client kernel problems

2008-07-09 Thread Peter Stein
Hey LTSP users, lately the ltsp-build-client command isn't working anymore. The reason does not appear to be the ltsp script, but a bug in the deb-package. See: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-05/msg00344.html Recently I finished setting up everything I wanted to implement,

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Is this going to work

2008-07-09 Thread Michael Collins
sourceforge musta got a clue you were ok. hehe Sorry for the trouble but it is not ltsps listserv so I can do nothing but tell it you are ok everytime till they get it. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Jim McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Childs wrote: I've been having tones of

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP and Asterisk

2008-07-09 Thread is.an.optional.port.number.that.defaults.to.25.
Hello, On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 08:12:53PM +0100, Richard Rothwell wrote: Does anyone know a good how to on using Asterisk PABX with LTSP? Not strictly speaking a howto, but at least a starting point : Building a Call Center with LTSP and Soft Phones

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Symbio clients and Hardy Heron.

2008-07-09 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Montag, den 30.06.2008, 13:44 -0400 schrieb Patrick Rady: Hi, Has anyone out there had success using Symbio Technologies SYM1110 thin clients with LTSP on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron)? These are Geode-based devices, and there seem to be issues aplenty with Geodes and Hardy Heron.

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] LTSP5 and 2.6.17 on Hardy

2008-07-09 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Montag, den 30.06.2008, 17:11 +0100 schrieb Joshua Higgins: Hello everyone My current system runs a modified debian etch, with a 2.4 kernel and LTSP4.0 with openMosix patches. Everything works great but i need a more up to date system. I have downloaded Xubuntu Hardy, installed

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Edubuntu 8.04 and Terminal SWAP

2008-07-09 Thread Jason Chase
On Jul 9, 2008, at 6:29 PM, Oliver Grawert wrote: hi, Am Mittwoch, den 09.07.2008, 17:50 -0400 schrieb Jason Chase: The last call to free looked like this: I added the following to /etc/inetd.conf on the server. 9210stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/ tcpd

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] fglrx

2008-07-09 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Montag, den 30.06.2008, 10:02 -0600 schrieb David Burgess: Archives show a couple people asking how to get fglrx working in clients, but no responses. I followed instructions from ubuntuforums.org but no luck. Here's what I tried: chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get update apt-get install

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Symbio clients and Hardy Heron.

2008-07-09 Thread Jason Chase
On Jul 9, 2008, at 7:39 PM, Oliver Grawert wrote: hi, Am Montag, den 30.06.2008, 13:44 -0400 schrieb Patrick Rady: Hi, Has anyone out there had success using Symbio Technologies SYM1110 thin clients with LTSP on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron)? These are Geode-based devices, and there seem to

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] How to install Nvidia software on clients

2008-07-09 Thread jam
On Wednesday 09 July 2008 20:34:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Carl, Normally what Rolf wrote is true, but I think in this case he didn't read your original email very carefully.  Software like the drivers and configuration for video cards and clients actually will be running directly

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] FOSSED 2008 at Governor's Academy! Educators and developers come together!

2008-07-09 Thread Sudev Barar
2008/7/2 Manjusha Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Spread this message far and wide! Register soon! Please register this weekI need to get the count as soon as possible! [SNIP] Don't you think the announcement would have done 6 months back, with which real participation from the world is

[Ltsp-discuss] No GUI for thin client

2008-07-09 Thread ingrid
Hi, I did the instruction on running the exportfs -ra. Now the thin client is booting until it reaches the login prompt. However, there is no GUI for the thin client. This message is just about before it goes into the login prompt. By the way, when it gets to the syslogd part, it takes around

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Kiwi versions, YaST

2008-07-09 Thread CyberOrg
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:00 AM, Verner Kjærsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In YaST, when doing a search for kiwi (in order to install the kiwi-doc package..), I see kiwiOpenSuSE - KIWI Image System YaST version 2.54-81.1, installed: 2.53-80.1 Current KIWI is v2.53 SVN release: 1436,