Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
On 04/29/2010 03:33 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Well, from my part, it was done on purpose. Not advertising too much before having something good enough to test :) It's another reason for not advertising too much. For the "What is needed", not much from our part. We need to wait the opening of the development of the next release, to start pinging good persons. Don't worry, it's very high in my TODO list :) Regards, Julien Lavergne Okay, understand. Patience could be a virtue. Good luck on what you're doing. If there's more we could do, drop us a hint. Can't resist one more time Lubuntu has potential! World domination next! :) Regards, take care, thanks - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
Hi, I just happened to ask a rather nice man did you ask about a tag on the main forum? >>phillw: did you look recently ? >> you might try it =) >> look under prefixes ... >> about mid way down :-D I think I speak for every one with my reply to him oooh, thanks - and not just from me, 10 others agreed that a tag would be better than a sub-forum :-D >> You are most welcome =) He's a star! Next up, add it to the getting support part of the Wiki Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:32:05 +0100, Goh Lip wrote: On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:55:25 +0100 Phill Whiteside wrote: Personally, I'd prefer the lubuntu tag rather than us being hidden away in some dark corner of the forum, it will encourage people to read about lubuntu & hopefully try it out. As always, your views on the two options are needed. Perhaps 2 small technical points about this mailing list itself. Could something be done so that all replies are directed back to this mailing list rather than to the sender if the sender (inadvertently) sends as 'cc' rather than 'to' ? (as what's being done in the ubuntu and kubuntu mailing list) I’m with Goh on the one, the Reply To should be the list, I forget to check occasionally and have to resend a separate mail to the list. If we do attract new users to the list it will cause a bit of confusion. Also can this mailing list be 'ported' or 'mirrored' to the gmane newsgroup too? Lastly, but I think more importantly, the exposure and 'market recall', no.even just knowing about 'Lubuntu' is low. Not many people have heard of it, even the ubuntu users themselves and that's a shame. I understand Lubuntu is not 'officially' part of ubuntu yet, (just a part of launchpad?) and that's perhaps the reason we cannot be too 'overt' about this, but could you share with us the framework that needs to be done to achieve this? Who knows, some of us here, besides being good designers and techies are good in marketing and pr too? (but I hope not in office politics and corporate shenaniganism :) ) Thanks, regards - Goh Lip I don’t think Lubuntu is doing badly for publicity as it’s currently 37th on distrowatch.com and heading back up -- Steve (Yorvyk) http://www.lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] minimal install
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: > Le mercredi 28 avril 2010 à 15:47 +0100, Phillip Whiteside a écrit : > > Included link is my notes for using the minimal install disk (network > > install using Command Line) for those with less RAM than the GUI > > installer needs. > > > > http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=85&p=106#p106 > > Thanks. You should remove the use of sudo -i, running a shell with root > is not a good idea, especially for beginner. > I was told that if you were running several commands as sudo, adopting sudo > -i was the correct way to do it. But, I will remove the sudo -i and put the > sudo in front of each command. Phill. > After this, it's ok to add it to the wiki :) > > Regards, > Julien Lavergne > > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:37:04 +0100, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le mardi 27 avril 2010 à 22:55 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit : 1) A Lubuntu 'tag' much the same as the xubuntu / kubuntu etc. tags work 2) A separate sub-forum. +1 for 1) :) While not a fan of forums if the tag option puts Lubuntu on the same level as K/Xubuntu then that’s the option to go for. -- Steve (Yorvyk) http://www.lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] minimal install
Awesome! This will be most useful as I prepare legacy computers for giving to students. It fits our use case perfectly - we have plenty of bandwidth and a bunch of older computers we would like to give away. Thanks to Lubuntu, new life will be breathed into them! Thanks again. jeff elkner On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: > Le mercredi 28 avril 2010 à 15:47 +0100, Phillip Whiteside a écrit : >> Included link is my notes for using the minimal install disk (network >> install using Command Line) for those with less RAM than the GUI >> installer needs. >> >> http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=85&p=106#p106 > > Thanks. You should remove the use of sudo -i, running a shell with root > is not a good idea, especially for beginner. > > After this, it's ok to add it to the wiki :) > > Regards, > Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] minimal install
Le mercredi 28 avril 2010 à 15:47 +0100, Phillip Whiteside a écrit : > Included link is my notes for using the minimal install disk (network > install using Command Line) for those with less RAM than the GUI > installer needs. > > http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=85&p=106#p106 Thanks. You should remove the use of sudo -i, running a shell with root is not a good idea, especially for beginner. After this, it's ok to add it to the wiki :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
Le mercredi 28 avril 2010 à 22:09 +0800, Goh Lip a écrit : > The following was sent to the Kubuntu-users mailing list and the > Ubuntu-mailing-list. But still I think there's more that can be > done > not just by each of us, but the 'organizational' effort, especially > if > directed outside the ubuntu 'sphere' can be effective. > For example > > o media coverage, emphasizing lightness and speed with codecs and > fonts. > o corporate free add-ons for broad-band providers (to give their > customers) with customized browser and slypheed defaults. (how > expensive > can a 2Gb disk be?) which can be installed to the pc or as carry-on's. > o tie-ins with companies like google (why not?) or yahoo; yes, google > is > coming out with their own OS, but their main profit target is not in > OS, > and other OS's which enables their main target objective would be > welcome. Google giving out DNS is brilliant, gaining Keep in mind that Lubuntu is very young, with limited feedbacks, and limited ressources :) It's also important to note that Lubuntu target a specific range of hardware spec. The goal is not be universal, it's the goal of the standard Ubuntu version :) We don't have a "world domination plan" :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
Le mercredi 28 avril 2010 à 17:32 +0800, Goh Lip a écrit : > Lastly, but I think more importantly, the exposure and 'market > recall', > no.even just knowing about 'Lubuntu' is low. Not many people have > heard of it, even the ubuntu users themselves and that's a shame. Well, from my part, it was done on purpose. Not advertising too much before having something good enough to test :) > I understand Lubuntu is not 'officially' part of ubuntu yet, (just a > part of launchpad?) and that's perhaps the reason we cannot be too > 'overt' about this, but could you share with us the framework that > needs to be done to achieve this? Who knows, some of us here, besides > being good designers and techies are good in marketing and pr too? > (but > I hope not in office politics and corporate shenaniganism :) ) It's another reason for not advertising too much. For the "What is needed", not much from our part. We need to wait the opening of the development of the next release, to start pinging good persons. Don't worry, it's very high in my TODO list :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
Le mardi 27 avril 2010 à 22:55 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit : > > 1) A Lubuntu 'tag' much the same as the xubuntu / kubuntu etc. tags > work > 2) A separate sub-forum. +1 for 1) :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] minimal install
Hi Julien, Included link is my notes for using the minimal install disk (network install using Command Line) for those with less RAM than the GUI installer needs. http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=85&p=106#p106 You were right, add-apt-repository is not included in the mini-iso; hence the install python-software line. If you think it looks okay, I'll pop it onto wiki. (I will remove [Note 4]). As the beta3 now includes lubuntu-desktop ppa and you can use Synaptics to update it i will alter the 'keep lubuntu up to date' to simply use Synaptics (I'm adding the ppa manually on the minimal install anyway), with a note for those who installed prior to beta3 to add the ppa. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
On 04/28/2010 05:41 PM, Mario Behling wrote: Hi Goh, thanks for your input. Actually I think in regards to marketing lubuntu is quite successful. There are thousands of blog entries and many people are talking about it. There was not a release for the general public yet and we are still at the beginning. So, any support from your side is welcome! Ciao Mario The following was sent to the Kubuntu-users mailing list and the Ubuntu-mailing-list. But still I think there's more that can be done not just by each of us, but the 'organizational' effort, especially if directed outside the ubuntu 'sphere' can be effective. For example o media coverage, emphasizing lightness and speed with codecs and fonts. o corporate free add-ons for broad-band providers (to give their customers) with customized browser and slypheed defaults. (how expensive can a 2Gb disk be?) which can be installed to the pc or as carry-on's. o tie-ins with companies like google (why not?) or yahoo; yes, google is coming out with their own OS, but their main profit target is not in OS, and other OS's which enables their main target objective would be welcome. Google giving out DNS is brilliant, gaining Sorry, got carried away...gosh, we might even make some money. Heaven forbids :) But I'm sure you've got those covered,(and close to your heart) and more. So take care now. - Goh Lip Original Message Subject: Lubuntu - new kid on the block Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:05:44 +0800 From: Goh Lip Reply-To: Kubuntu user technical support To: kubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com Newsgroups: gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.kubuntu Have you guys (meaning n gals) heard of Lubuntu? It's a great small distro using LXDE desktop. Works great and it would be the one I'd recommend for not so powerful computer and for running on the usb stick. Totally impressed with it. Check out.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop http://lubuntu.net/ Run it on a 2 Gb usb stick for about 1 week now and was blown away. Multimedia codecs all installed and the only thing I installed is adobe flash (and gparted on the stick). Installation disk is only about 300 Mb. Comes with Google Chrome and Slypheed. Tried Kubuntu Netbook Remix as well as Ubuntu Netbook Remix but would not recommend running on usb. And yes, have tried Xubuntu. Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
Hi Goh, thanks for your input. Actually I think in regards to marketing lubuntu is quite successful. There are thousands of blog entries and many people are talking about it. There was not a release for the general public yet and we are still at the beginning. So, any support from your side is welcome! Ciao Mario On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Goh Lip wrote: > On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:55:25 +0100 > Phill Whiteside wrote: >> Personally, I'd prefer the lubuntu tag rather than us being hidden >> away in some dark corner of the forum, it will encourage people to >> read about lubuntu & hopefully try it out. As always, your views on >> the two options are needed. > > Perhaps 2 small technical points about this mailing list itself. > > Could something be done so that all replies are directed back to this > mailing list rather than to the sender if the sender (inadvertently) > sends as 'cc' rather than 'to' ? (as what's being done in the ubuntu > and kubuntu mailing list) > > Also can this mailing list be 'ported' or 'mirrored' to the gmane > newsgroup too? > > Lastly, but I think more importantly, the exposure and 'market recall', > no.even just knowing about 'Lubuntu' is low. Not many people have > heard of it, even the ubuntu users themselves and that's a shame. > > I understand Lubuntu is not 'officially' part of ubuntu yet, (just a > part of launchpad?) and that's perhaps the reason we cannot be too > 'overt' about this, but could you share with us the framework that > needs to be done to achieve this? Who knows, some of us here, besides > being good designers and techies are good in marketing and pr too? (but > I hope not in office politics and corporate shenaniganism :) ) > > Thanks, regards - Goh Lip > > -- > If you understand, things are the way they are. > If you do not understand, things are the way they are. > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:55:25 +0100 Phill Whiteside wrote: > Personally, I'd prefer the lubuntu tag rather than us being hidden > away in some dark corner of the forum, it will encourage people to > read about lubuntu & hopefully try it out. As always, your views on > the two options are needed. Perhaps 2 small technical points about this mailing list itself. Could something be done so that all replies are directed back to this mailing list rather than to the sender if the sender (inadvertently) sends as 'cc' rather than 'to' ? (as what's being done in the ubuntu and kubuntu mailing list) Also can this mailing list be 'ported' or 'mirrored' to the gmane newsgroup too? Lastly, but I think more importantly, the exposure and 'market recall', no.even just knowing about 'Lubuntu' is low. Not many people have heard of it, even the ubuntu users themselves and that's a shame. I understand Lubuntu is not 'officially' part of ubuntu yet, (just a part of launchpad?) and that's perhaps the reason we cannot be too 'overt' about this, but could you share with us the framework that needs to be done to achieve this? Who knows, some of us here, besides being good designers and techies are good in marketing and pr too? (but I hope not in office politics and corporate shenaniganism :) ) Thanks, regards - Goh Lip -- If you understand, things are the way they are. If you do not understand, things are the way they are. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
> > +1 for 'Lubuntu tag'. > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
+1 for the tag. If there are tags for kubuntu and xubuntu, people will look for a lubuntu tag. If were a complete subsection, they maybe won't find us. Best regards, Jo Am 28.04.2010 um 09:29 schrieb C David Rigby : Phill Whiteside wrote: Hi, as promised I've had a chat with a very nice man regarding Lubuntu and the main ubuntu support forum. I see that we have two options available: 1) A Lubuntu 'tag' much the same as the xubuntu / kubuntu etc. tags work 2) A separate sub-forum. #1 is the easier one to achieve as #2 has the problems of the mods then having to herd stuff from the general area onto the lubuntu area. If you feel that #1 is un-satisfactory you may ask the Forum Council to discuss it at the next meeting but "I do not think we have a separate xubuntu or kubuntu section, so good luck with that =)" was the reply. I hope I have not exceeded what I said I would do in 'asking around' but, for the lubuntu tag I got "I will ask the rest of the staff re: lubuntu tag, should be easy (I hope)" Personally, I'd prefer the lubuntu tag rather than us being hidden away in some dark corner of the forum, it will encourage people to read about lubuntu & hopefully try it out. As always, your views on the two options are needed. Regards, Phill. --- - ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Option (1) sounds fine to me. Regards, David ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
Phill Whiteside wrote: Hi, as promised I've had a chat with a very nice man regarding Lubuntu and the main ubuntu support forum. I see that we have two options available: 1) A Lubuntu 'tag' much the same as the xubuntu / kubuntu etc. tags work 2) A separate sub-forum. #1 is the easier one to achieve as #2 has the problems of the mods then having to herd stuff from the general area onto the lubuntu area. If you feel that #1 is un-satisfactory you may ask the Forum Council to discuss it at the next meeting but "I do not think we have a separate xubuntu or kubuntu section, so good luck with that =)" was the reply. I hope I have not exceeded what I said I would do in 'asking around' but, for the lubuntu tag I got "I will ask the rest of the staff re: lubuntu tag, should be easy (I hope)" Personally, I'd prefer the lubuntu tag rather than us being hidden away in some dark corner of the forum, it will encourage people to read about lubuntu & hopefully try it out. As always, your views on the two options are needed. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Option (1) sounds fine to me. Regards, David ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
Lubuntu tag + 1 On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Josef wrote: > I will go for 1 that mean +1 > The reason is, its easy to find. Yeah just like you said instead hidden away > in a small corner in the dark. > > On 4/28/2010 4:55 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > > Hi, > > as promised I've had a chat with a very nice man regarding Lubuntu and the > main ubuntu support forum. I see that we have two options available: > > 1) A Lubuntu 'tag' much the same as the xubuntu / kubuntu etc. tags work > 2) A separate sub-forum. > > #1 is the easier one to achieve as #2 has the problems of the mods then > having to herd stuff from the general area onto the lubuntu area. If you > feel that #1 is un-satisfactory you may ask the Forum Council to discuss it > at the next meeting but > "I do not think we have a separate xubuntu or kubuntu section, so good luck > with that =)" > was the reply. > > I hope I have not exceeded what I said I would do in 'asking around' but, > for the lubuntu tag I got > "I will ask the rest of the staff re: lubuntu tag, should be easy (I hope)" > > Personally, I'd prefer the lubuntu tag rather than us being hidden away in > some dark corner of the forum, it will encourage people to read about > lubuntu & hopefully try it out. As always, your views on the two options are > needed. > > Regards, > > Phill. > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Keyboard weirdness, Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 - very fringe case
Julien Lavergne wrote: Le mardi 27 avril 2010 à 18:48 +0100, Steve a écrit : There have been a couple of 'strange' language problems, involving French & English, noticed by Phillw and myself, on Beta 2. I would try it with Ubuntu if you can, but I suspect it is the way the Lubuntu ISO is set up. I have reported a bug where all the languages (139) are installed to the hard drive. I think it is worth reporting anyway as anything that messes up the install could mean one less user. Sorry for being quite on this. I spend last days trying to fix it for the final release, but the way I generate the iso is quite limited. And I don't want to spend too much time on it if we migrate to the Ubuntu architecture for the next release. If I don't find a solution, we need to chose one solution : keeping all the languages on the CD (but installing them all) or don't ship them and having a live-cd limited for language support. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp OK, no worries. As I mentioned in responding to Steve, I'm going to make sure the hardware is OK, then retry the installation. I'll file bug report(s) and find a work around if I can & document it for others. I'm not particularly proficient in French or Italian, but it is a workable option for me to do a fully French or Italian installation. That might give us some useful comparison cases. How much space are we talking about for installation of all 139 languages? Regards, David ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
