Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New LXKeymap version with autostart support
Hello Leszek, Kindly have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1874069 Thanks! On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: Hi, as I got a lot of requests to implement an autostart feature for lxkeymap I did it. LXKeymap 0.5 is now capable to store its keymap configuration into a file that it reads out during autostart. Therefore I wrote a little *.desktop file that I put in the global /etc/xdg/autostart which contains the new command lxkeymap -a to trigger the autostart function of lxkeymap. The Keymap configuration will be stored locally in your home directory ( ~/.config/lxkeymap.cfg) and is easily editable either by using lxkeymap and set a new keymap or by editing it by hand. You can get this version from here: http://content.wuala.com/contents/leszek/Dokumente/Share/lxkeymap_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb?dl=1 If you notice any bugs then report them here: http://launchpad.net/lxkeymap Also I guess there is a bug in lxdm, because changing the keyboard layout in the session and logging out to lxdm does not restore the global keymap but uses the one choosen in the session. This could be also fixed by simply calling lxkeymap -a from within lxdm but as lxkeymap uses only a local configuration it would then create and use the root accounts .config/lxkeymap.cfg file. So you need to create this first by executing lxkeymap as root if you want to have a different keymap globally+lxdm and your user accounts. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com | My Wiki Pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profilehttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *~ My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short** ~ * ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New LXKeymap version with autostart support
I just saw the forum and I believe that there should be an option to change the global keymap... Or at least the login manager keymap Att, Gabriel Salles 2011/11/5 Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com Hello Leszek, Kindly have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1874069 Thanks! On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.dewrote: Hi, as I got a lot of requests to implement an autostart feature for lxkeymap I did it. LXKeymap 0.5 is now capable to store its keymap configuration into a file that it reads out during autostart. Therefore I wrote a little *.desktop file that I put in the global /etc/xdg/autostart which contains the new command lxkeymap -a to trigger the autostart function of lxkeymap. The Keymap configuration will be stored locally in your home directory ( ~/.config/lxkeymap.cfg) and is easily editable either by using lxkeymap and set a new keymap or by editing it by hand. You can get this version from here: http://content.wuala.com/contents/leszek/Dokumente/Share/lxkeymap_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb?dl=1 If you notice any bugs then report them here: http://launchpad.net/lxkeymap Also I guess there is a bug in lxdm, because changing the keyboard layout in the session and logging out to lxdm does not restore the global keymap but uses the one choosen in the session. This could be also fixed by simply calling lxkeymap -a from within lxdm but as lxkeymap uses only a local configuration it would then create and use the root accounts .config/lxkeymap.cfg file. So you need to create this first by executing lxkeymap as root if you want to have a different keymap globally+lxdm and your user accounts. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com | My Wiki Pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profilehttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *~ My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short** ~ * ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New LXKeymap version with autostart support
Am 05.11.2011 14:02, schrieb Gabriel Salles: I just saw the forum and I believe that there should be an option to change the global keymap... Or at least the login manager keymap Yeah I guess you are right. But notice that this requires root rights. Also if someone knows how to change the keymap for tty and Xorg (I guess the keymap is set in /etc/default/keyboard) directly without reconfiguring console-setup then please mail me. Att, Gabriel Salles 2011/11/5 Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com Hello Leszek, Kindly have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1874069 Thanks! On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.dewrote: Hi, as I got a lot of requests to implement an autostart feature for lxkeymap I did it. LXKeymap 0.5 is now capable to store its keymap configuration into a file that it reads out during autostart. Therefore I wrote a little *.desktop file that I put in the global /etc/xdg/autostart which contains the new command lxkeymap -a to trigger the autostart function of lxkeymap. The Keymap configuration will be stored locally in your home directory ( ~/.config/lxkeymap.cfg) and is easily editable either by using lxkeymap and set a new keymap or by editing it by hand. You can get this version from here: http://content.wuala.com/contents/leszek/Dokumente/Share/lxkeymap_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb?dl=1 If you notice any bugs then report them here: http://launchpad.net/lxkeymap Also I guess there is a bug in lxdm, because changing the keyboard layout in the session and logging out to lxdm does not restore the global keymap but uses the one choosen in the session. This could be also fixed by simply calling lxkeymap -a from within lxdm but as lxkeymap uses only a local configuration it would then create and use the root accounts .config/lxkeymap.cfg file. So you need to create this first by executing lxkeymap as root if you want to have a different keymap globally+lxdm and your user accounts. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com | My Wiki Pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profilehttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *~ My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short** ~ * ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:47:26 +0100 A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? +1, i love firefox, chromium is too much for dummies ;-) -- Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
I'm one of the target audiences for Lubuntu, mainly that of the underpowered netbook user. In my experience, Chromium is faster, until you start having a ton (read: 4-10) tabs open. At that point, Firefox starts to be better. Just my two cents. Cheers, James Gifford On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:47:26 +0100 A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? +1, i love firefox, chromium is too much for dummies ;-) -- Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Hi, I prefer Chromium, it's good on old machine. Firefox is almost useless on my 256MB RAM laptop. Regards, TRẦN Duy Hùng http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/ On 5 November 2011 22:11, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.com wrote: I'm one of the target audiences for Lubuntu, mainly that of the underpowered netbook user. In my experience, Chromium is faster, until you start having a ton (read: 4-10) tabs open. At that point, Firefox starts to be better. Just my two cents. Cheers, James Gifford On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:47:26 +0100 A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? +1, i love firefox, chromium is too much for dummies ;-) -- Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
If it's a vote... i would keep chromium. I always keep both browsers just in case, but my benchmarks on my old pentium 3 can't tell any real difference with just one tab opened. Start time, firefox seems a little bit slower to start. I'll run some benchmarks in the next days in the following machine: 1000mhz, 512ram (Pentium3). Still, you should take a look at the dependencies too... my guess is that we should keep chromium in this case (i believe that firefox installs some nautilus stuff) Ps: when it will be ready we could try Midori (it's the faster browser i can try on my old machine!). But really... when it will be *ready* to use!! El 05-11-2011 11:11, James Gifford escribió: I'm one of the target audiences for Lubuntu, mainly that of the underpowered netbook user. In my experience, Chromium is faster, until you start having a ton (read: 4-10) tabs open. At that point, Firefox starts to be better. Just my two cents. Cheers, James Gifford On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Stefanoeco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:47:26 +0100 A. Andjelkovicandjelko...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? +1, i love firefox, chromium is too much for dummies ;-) -- Stefanoeco.st...@fastwebnet.it ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
In fact, if we were really looking for a lightweight browser, might I suggest Midori?[1] It's a Webkit based browser, very lightweight on CPU/RAM. Cheers, James Gifford [1] https://launchpad.net/midori On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I prefer Chromium, it's good on old machine. Firefox is almost useless on my 256MB RAM laptop. Regards, TRẦN Duy Hùng http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/ On 5 November 2011 22:11, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.com wrote: I'm one of the target audiences for Lubuntu, mainly that of the underpowered netbook user. In my experience, Chromium is faster, until you start having a ton (read: 4-10) tabs open. At that point, Firefox starts to be better. Just my two cents. Cheers, James Gifford On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:47:26 +0100 A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? +1, i love firefox, chromium is too much for dummies ;-) -- Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Define ready to use - Midori might not have hit 1.0, but in the days where I come back from a walk around the block and Chromium's bumped another version number, that's hardly a way to measure things. If it came to a vote, I'd keep Chromium, it's stable, it works, and it's got a large upstream which means we don't have to worry a *lot* about security bugs. Cheers, James Gifford On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: If it's a vote... i would keep chromium. I always keep both browsers just in case, but my benchmarks on my old pentium 3 can't tell any real difference with just one tab opened. Start time, firefox seems a little bit slower to start. I'll run some benchmarks in the next days in the following machine: 1000mhz, 512ram (Pentium3). Still, you should take a look at the dependencies too... my guess is that we should keep chromium in this case (i believe that firefox installs some nautilus stuff) Ps: when it will be ready we could try Midori (it's the faster browser i can try on my old machine!). But really... when it will be *ready* to use!! El 05-11-2011 11:11, James Gifford escribió: I'm one of the target audiences for Lubuntu, mainly that of the underpowered netbook user. In my experience, Chromium is faster, until you start having a ton (read: 4-10) tabs open. At that point, Firefox starts to be better. Just my two cents. Cheers, James Gifford On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Stefanoeco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:47:26 +0100 A. Andjelkovicandjelko...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? +1, i love firefox, chromium is too much for dummies ;-) -- Stefanoeco.st...@fastwebnet.it ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New LXKeymap version with autostart support
Am 05.11.2011 17:40, schrieb Todd Schulman: On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de wrote: Am 05.11.2011 14:02, schrieb Gabriel Salles: I just saw the forum and I believe that there should be an option to change the global keymap... Or at least the login manager keymap Yeah I guess you are right. But notice that this requires root rights. Also if someone knows how to change the keymap for tty and Xorg (I guess the keymap is set in /etc/default/keyboard) directly without reconfiguring console-setup then please mail me. Won't setxkbmap do it? Setxkbmap would only change the Xorg keymap in a local session. So not globally. And it needs a Xserver running ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Midori on Lubuntu?
Does Midori do internet Flash Video? How to set it up? Does Midori import Firefox bookmarks? I've got maybe 10 screenfuls. Thanks, Jerry -- This message was sent from Launchpad by jerrylamos (https://launchpad.net/~jerrylamos) using the Contact this team link on the Lubuntu team page (https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop). For more information see https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Midori on Lubuntu?
I run Midori on Bodhi Linux and did not have an issue with flash after I installed the Adobe flash plugin. HTHs. -- Sean Patzer, MCSE. Mobility by Apple. On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:41 AM, jerrylamos jerryla...@netscape.net wrote: Does Midori do internet Flash Video? How to set it up? Does Midori import Firefox bookmarks? I've got maybe 10 screenfuls. Thanks, Jerry -- This message was sent from Launchpad by jerrylamos (https://launchpad.net/~jerrylamos) using the Contact this team link on the Lubuntu team page (https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop). For more information see https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
In fact Midori is lighweight... but it crash just too often. That's what i mean by ready to use 2011/11/5 James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.com In fact, if we were really looking for a lightweight browser, might I suggest Midori?[1] It's a Webkit based browser, very lightweight on CPU/RAM. Cheers, James Gifford [1] https://launchpad.net/midori On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I prefer Chromium, it's good on old machine. Firefox is almost useless on my 256MB RAM laptop. Regards, TRẦN Duy Hùng http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/ On 5 November 2011 22:11, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.com wrote: I'm one of the target audiences for Lubuntu, mainly that of the underpowered netbook user. In my experience, Chromium is faster, until you start having a ton (read: 4-10) tabs open. At that point, Firefox starts to be better. Just my two cents. Cheers, James Gifford On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:47:26 +0100 A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? +1, i love firefox, chromium is too much for dummies ;-) -- Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- jpxsat Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset Club de Campo y Hostal Los Pequenes http://www.lospequenes.cl Departamento de Informática y Publicidad Celular: +56 9 8-548.38.00 // Fono: +56 72 66.81.42 Je@n-Pie®®e Vidal Piesset http://www.facebook.com/jpxsat Fono: +56 72 66.81.42 // Celular 09 8-548.38.00 jpxsat http://lahistoriadeuncompaq1700.blogspot.com/ // Linux user #522.597 // Ubuntu user #29.157 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Midori isn't a REAL optin right now, because of handling certificates and such things. A better option should be Arora. But Alexander is right. Firefox 7 has improved a lot with beta 7, and 8 is more promising. But I don't give any point until benchmark is provided. -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:18:12 +0700 Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I prefer Chromium, it's good on old machine. Firefox is almost useless on my 256MB RAM laptop. I've also found Chromium to be better than Firefox when there is less than 512 MiB of RAM. I haven't really checked memory/CPU usage but Chromium is more responsive with 6-8 tabs open. With less than 256 MiB of RAM Firefox really seems to struggle with only 3-4 tabs open. This isn't just a case of a PIII CPU struggling either. I have a 'brand new', never out of it's box, 2003 vintage, Dell 4600 2.4Mhz P4 with 256 MiB of RAM, AGP8 video and Firefox is slow in this as well. As much as I like Firefox I think Chromium is the way to go for Lubuntu. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Keep Chromium. Users, as always, can install Firefox whenever they want. Firefox is my no.1 browser but I must have them both. I run both of them at the same time (FF and Chromium). Let's keep in mind that Chromium is lighter than Firefox. After all, Lubuntu is a lightweight distribution so please keep it as it's :) On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:47 PM, A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.comwrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com | My Wiki Pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profilehttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *~ My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short** ~ * ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Ali, It's been mentioned that the new FF7 is lightweight again, that's why it's been brought up. Personally I don't like FF, so personally I'd vote Chromium. But if with benchmarks/user tests it's proven that FF is the better one, than we should consider switching. With metta, Chris On Nov 5, 2011 9:41 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Keep Chromium. Users, as always, can install Firefox whenever they want. Firefox is my no.1 browser but I must have them both. I run both of them at the same time (FF and Chromium). Let's keep in mind that Chromium is lighter than Firefox. After all, Lubuntu is a lightweight distribution so please keep it as it's :) On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:47 PM, A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.comwrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com | My Wiki Pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profilehttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *~ My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short** ~ * ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
I love them both so whatever you guys decide, I don't mind. All what I care about is overall performance. I've noticed FF started to be lighter than before. I also noticed it takes so much from RAM with 3-4 opened tabs. Don't have time to test that for now. Again, whatever your choice will be, I'm ok because after all, I do need them both installed :) On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote: Ali, It's been mentioned that the new FF7 is lightweight again, that's why it's been brought up. Personally I don't like FF, so personally I'd vote Chromium. But if with benchmarks/user tests it's proven that FF is the better one, than we should consider switching. With metta, Chris On Nov 5, 2011 9:41 PM, Ali Linx amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Keep Chromium. Users, as always, can install Firefox whenever they want. Firefox is my no.1 browser but I must have them both. I run both of them at the same time (FF and Chromium). Let's keep in mind that Chromium is lighter than Firefox. After all, Lubuntu is a lightweight distribution so please keep it as it's :) On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:47 PM, A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.comwrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com | My Wiki Pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profilehttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *~ My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short** ~ * ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *A.J amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Blog http://amjjawad.wordpress.com | My Wiki Pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad| My Launchpad https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profilehttp://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *~ My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short** ~ * ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Lubuntu 12.04 will be GTK3, and Chromium will still be GTK2. So, to the next version, Chromium will be heavyweight. I think most of the people agree that Midori isn't really an option, and I never tested Arora to give my opinion about this one. . In a way or another, I believe that the best option for now if Firefox. Gabriel Salles ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Well, it's ont sure that Ubuntu istelf will remove all GTK2 packages and libraries completely. Shuttleworth was clear on it at UDS, because we're not going to be "cool and modern" but removing things that are really useful just because they're GTK2. I'm the first who want Mono and GTK2 away from Ubuntu (and GTK2 away too from Lubuntu), but who knows... -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Arora is QT based... so i don't think lubuntu will ever adopt it :( ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Hi, I'm not very fan of a change unless we have a strong consensus for another browser. But, this is my opinion : - We should only consider Chromium or Firefox, because they have a strong upstream and are well maintained. Browser is a very important part of a system, and we really don't have time to do maintenance on it. Adopting Midori for example, means we have to do the maintenance on Ubuntu (triage bugs, testing, maybe some packaging ...). - Benchmark are needed, because just saying it's light, doesn't mean it's always light. Also, the memory usage for Chromium is special, because it shares memory (there is an article from a dev of Chromium somewhere in the Web which explain it). - Finally, it needs to be light on old hardware. Remember, it's the main target for Lubuntu. So far, Chromium seems better on this type of machine. So far, I don't see advantages to switch to Firefox. Of course, if the benchmarks show a real difference, I may reconsider my opinion. Regards, Julien Lavergne On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:47:26 +0100 A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? -- Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
On 11/5/11 5:51 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: - We should only consider Chromium or Firefox, because they have a strong upstream and are well maintained. agreed. i wouldn't suggest anything else tho there are other, more lightweight, options. Browser is a very important part of a system, and we really don't have time to do maintenance on it. Adopting Midori for example, means we have to do the maintenance on Ubuntu (triage bugs, testing, maybe some packaging ...). if we really wanted to go lightweight, we'd do w3m or dillo or something. lubuntu is light, but not THAT light :) - Benchmark are needed, because just saying it's light, doesn't mean it's always light. Also, the memory usage for Chromium is special, because it shares memory (there is an article from a dev of Chromium somewhere in the Web which explain it). i have had better luck with chromium when resources are a limited. i've seen what appear to be memory leaks in firefox that they always claim is due to some plugin though other browsers don't have this same problem. chromium of course sandboxes each process/plugin, so this is usually not a session-wide issue if you will. despite that, i'm a firefox user. for one, i've got a ppc machine (though i'm installing on a thinkpad now) which means that anything but chromium is the only option. secondly, there are some plugins i would really miss. i've tried a couple times to move away (especially after experiencing webkit which seems to work a heck of a lot better overall), but i keep coming back. despite all this, the user has the option of changing whatever they want at any time. so then comes the question of the target audience.. - Finally, it needs to be light on old hardware. Remember, it's the main target for Lubuntu. So far, Chromium seems better on this type of machine. to which i must say, exactly. but yeah, we should benchmark it. wxl/walter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
