Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some considerations about the Precise theme

2011-11-17 Thread



But you'll know that the wallpaper must be BLUE ;)

I would like to propose... Lubuntu going for _*GREEN*_!
110% in agreement on that one. I usually end up tweaking everything 
green anyways.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some considerations about the Precise theme

2011-11-17 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
>
> But you'll know that the wallpaper must be BLUE ;)
>
I would like to propose... Lubuntu going for *GREEN*!

Reasons?
- It goes a little more with the standart of "efficient" SO (this is
important since it's the OS that most fits with the planet :)
- It differencies us from Kubuntu & Xubuntu (also blue...) giving Lubuntu a
self image to the world ("see! it's the 'green' ubuntu! - no man, it's
'lubuntu'")

Could be a dark green, to match well with black & grey and make a
sober/cool look.

I know that for corporative reasons we should go for blue... BUT imho i
think that's a paradigm that must fall (ubuntu nor mac are blue!)

Just think about it and tell what you think!

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs

2011-11-17 Thread Mario Behling
Hi,

yes agree. Let me know what I can do, if you need help with the set up.

Thanks,

Mario


On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Thanks Mario.
>
> Currently, the situation is not very nice, the mailing list is not open 
> anymore, and the PPA is too common. We have to change the mailing or the PPA 
> location, or both.
>
> About the mailing list, the best solution is probably to swith to one (or 1 
> for user help, and 1 for devel ?) on https://lists.ubuntu.com/, since it's a 
> more standart mailing list (no need to be member of the team).
>
> The PPA will probably diseapears with the time, we need more specialized 
> PPAs, instead of one with many varous stuff in it.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:42:52 +0700
> Mario Behling  wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Launchpads/Canonical policies demand that the lubuntu team becomes
>> moderated. More info below. I had to change the group to moderated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mario
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Steve Kowalik 
>> Date: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:25 AM
>> Subject: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs
>>
>>
>> Last week we wrote to tell you that on 2011-11-23 we will be changing the
>> membership policy of your Launchpad team lubuntu-desktop to moderated.
>> We're doing this to protect the people who use that team's Personal Package
>> Archive (PPA).
>>
>> Right now, "lubuntu-desktop" has an open membership policy, meaning anyone
>> can join the team and upload potentially malicious packages to the PPA.
>>
>> We strongly recommend that you change your team's membership policy now and
>> audit the team's membership to make sure that you trust each member.
>>
>> You can change the team's membership policy here:
>>
>>  https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+edit
>>
>> Otherwise, you can delete the team's PPA and retain the open membership
>> policy.
>>
>> Before you can create a new team PPA, a team's membership policy must be
>> either moderated or restricted. Your team was created before we improved
>> the security around team PPAs.
>>
>> These changes won't have any affect on the team's current members. However
>> it does mean that you'll have to approve new team members.
>>
>> There's more about Launchpad's team membership policies here:
>>
>>  https://help.launchpad.net/Teams/CreatingAndRunning
>>
>> Email feedb...@launchpad.net if you have any questions.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve Kowalik
>> On behalf of the Launchpad team
>>

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs

2011-11-17 Thread Julien Lavergne
Thanks Mario.

Currently, the situation is not very nice, the mailing list is not open 
anymore, and the PPA is too common. We have to change the mailing or the PPA 
location, or both.

About the mailing list, the best solution is probably to swith to one (or 1 for 
user help, and 1 for devel ?) on https://lists.ubuntu.com/, since it's a more 
standart mailing list (no need to be member of the team).

The PPA will probably diseapears with the time, we need more specialized PPAs, 
instead of one with many varous stuff in it.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:42:52 +0700
Mario Behling  wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> Launchpads/Canonical policies demand that the lubuntu team becomes
> moderated. More info below. I had to change the group to moderated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mario
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Steve Kowalik 
> Date: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:25 AM
> Subject: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs
> 
> 
> Last week we wrote to tell you that on 2011-11-23 we will be changing the
> membership policy of your Launchpad team lubuntu-desktop to moderated.
> We're doing this to protect the people who use that team's Personal Package
> Archive (PPA).
> 
> Right now, "lubuntu-desktop" has an open membership policy, meaning anyone
> can join the team and upload potentially malicious packages to the PPA.
> 
> We strongly recommend that you change your team's membership policy now and
> audit the team's membership to make sure that you trust each member.
> 
> You can change the team's membership policy here:
> 
>  https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+edit
> 
> Otherwise, you can delete the team's PPA and retain the open membership
> policy.
> 
> Before you can create a new team PPA, a team's membership policy must be
> either moderated or restricted. Your team was created before we improved
> the security around team PPAs.
> 
> These changes won't have any affect on the team's current members. However
> it does mean that you'll have to approve new team members.
> 
> There's more about Launchpad's team membership policies here:
> 
>  https://help.launchpad.net/Teams/CreatingAndRunning
> 
> Email feedb...@launchpad.net if you have any questions.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve Kowalik
> On behalf of the Launchpad team
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Website lubuntu.net design

2011-11-17 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi,

Since there are some interests in lubuntu.net, I made a wiki page to gather 
ideas about it. Feel free to add you ideas to 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing/Website_Plan. We can after decide a 
plan for the website.

Thanks.

Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread Mario Behling
HI Rafael,

cool. Do you have a draft of the mockup?

The current site is based on the Ubuntu Drupal theme. It seems this project
is not so active anymore and there are better theme options.

Currently, we have a few people who have admin access and can change
things. It seems though that the theme has several bugs and every time
someone changes something there are broken links or images do not work. It
is a quite boring task to fix that again and again.

So, I want to throw the theme "over board" and implement a completely new
theme: light, fast and clearly integrated. Looking forward to receive your
ideas for the mockup.

- Mario


2011/11/18 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) 

> **
> That's right, this is the right place for discussions about the distro.
> And I dont want anybody be angry of my words (in fact, it was a bit a joke
> for Mario). But I'm still thinking that we must be stronger and graphic
> design or advertising are powerful tools for that purpose. And, I'd like to
> use this mailing thread to anounce a few things I've got in mind, and I
> need your opinion.
>
> - a design / graphics / publishing line cheat is under development (like
> Kubuntu or Ubuntu's) for those things like signatures, wallpapers,
> stickers, and other things that doesn't really fit in marketing (or maybe
> yes) and make it distributable for you all (this includes presentation
> templates, mail signatures, etc).
>
> - a lubuntu.net mockup is almost ready, but I don't really know if we can
> change that. And that's not all, the idea for this is providing a nice set
> of mirrors, or at  least, being more concrete about where and what to
> download. A lot of users were confused.
>
> That's all, for the moment. What do you think?
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread Julien Lavergne
Could you publish the logo on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing, with 
different sizes ?
I'll do the change just after :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc Port to Vala

2011-11-17 Thread PCMan
Great!
I started to use Vala recently and I like it a lot!
Easy to use, and directly compiled to plain C.
Almost as easy to use as python.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some considerations about the Precise theme

2011-11-17 Thread 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna)

  
  
Stop reading my mind! :D

Well, I don't like to repeat myself, and one black (and polemic)
dark taskbar is enough. So yes, we're going that way. More Adwaita
style, even Clearlooks (not looking sooo eighties, of course).

Anyway, you'll have time for choose colours, borders and everything
else. But you'll know that the wallpaper must be BLUE ;)

I'll post some mockups in a week (or two).

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Some considerations about the Precise theme

2011-11-17 Thread Stephen Smally

  
  
Hi, i've got some consideration
about the future Precise theme for Lubuntu.

Lubuntu should have a most professional and clean look as
possible, so:

1 - i like a lot the default light grey panel in 10.04 and
10.10, and i think is a good compromise between style and
professionality:

2 - we should use a monochrome logo for the menu (+1 close to
ubuntu), suggestion:

3 - i like the default openbox theme in Oneiric, but the borders
of the windows should be grey, not black.
suggestion RGB: 3c3c3c

Stephen Smally
  
  

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread (Rafael Laguna)
That's right, this is the right place for discussions about the distro.
And I dont want anybody be angry of my words (in fact, it was a bit a
joke for Mario). But I'm still thinking that we must be stronger and
graphic design or advertising are powerful tools for that purpose. And,
I'd like to use this mailing thread to anounce a few things I've got in
mind, and I need your opinion.

- a design / graphics / publishing line cheat is under development (like
Kubuntu or Ubuntu's) for those things like signatures, wallpapers,
stickers, and other things that doesn't really fit in marketing (or
maybe yes) and make it distributable for you all (this includes
presentation templates, mail signatures, etc).

- a lubuntu.net mockup is almost ready, but I don't really know if we
can change that. And that's not all, the idea for this is providing a
nice set of mirrors, or at  least, being more concrete about where and
what to download. A lot of users were confused.

That's all, for the moment. What do you think?


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc Port to Vala

2011-11-17 Thread Michael Rawson
So you're converting from python to vala? All for it, I'm happy to test it. 
might improve the speed of things, too... If I understand vala correctly?

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:23:16 +0100
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> Hi, i have started the port from Python to Vala, the branch is 
> lp:~lubuntu-software-center-team/lubuntu-software-center/vala-port, so 
> the ppa use the Python version (the package is not broken), there is a 
> README inside, let me know if something is not clear.
> 
> Stephen Smally


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc Port to Vala

2011-11-17 Thread Stephen Smally

This message is target for the Lubuntu Software Center Team!

Hi, i have started the port from Python to Vala, the branch is 
lp:~lubuntu-software-center-team/lubuntu-software-center/vala-port, so 
the ppa use the Python version (the package is not broken), there is a 
README inside, let me know if something is not clear.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread Michael Rawson
I agree. While 11.10 was a big step over 11.04, 12.04 just needs some polish 
and it could be a really big "seller".

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:03:38 +0100
Chris  wrote:

> Aloha b,
> 
> First of all, it's not a newsletter, it's a mailing-list. It's not only a
> place for announcing the newest version of Lubuntu, it's a place for
> discussion.
> 
> Secondly I agree with Raphael that the theme should be nigh prefect and
> consistent everywhere. That is one selling point of a distribution.
> 
> With metta, Chris
> On Nov 17, 2011 8:54 PM, "b g"  wrote:
> 
> > This newsletter has become full of things that are minor or even
> > inconsequential to most of us.
> >
> > 2011/11/17 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) 
> >
> >> **
> >> Of course I'm serious. My priorities, right now, are achieving a perfect
> >> integration with Ubuntu in almost all aspects of Lubuntu identity,
> >> including brand marks, colour specs, design lines, advertising (if any),
> >> social networks presence, etc. Also, a good entrance, such as a good
> >> website is, could do the downloading process more easy for end-users. In
> >> case of Lubuntu Team, that's not me, is Canonical who adverted that we must
> >> be close to them (you can check the design LInes published at
> >> design.canonical.com).
> >>
> >> All of this makes TOO a good distro, not only the code. And I must be
> >> clear about I'm not deprecating the coder's work, but you must admit that
> >> design is always the last everybody think in for everything, and that's a
> >> big mistake. Ok, an icon is a tiny thing, but I'm trying to make the
> >> Lubuntu image rock solid and homogeneous for three years, with not too much
> >> success, I must to say.
> >>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread Chris
Aloha b,

First of all, it's not a newsletter, it's a mailing-list. It's not only a
place for announcing the newest version of Lubuntu, it's a place for
discussion.

Secondly I agree with Raphael that the theme should be nigh prefect and
consistent everywhere. That is one selling point of a distribution.

With metta, Chris
On Nov 17, 2011 8:54 PM, "b g"  wrote:

> This newsletter has become full of things that are minor or even
> inconsequential to most of us.
>
> 2011/11/17 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) 
>
>> **
>> Of course I'm serious. My priorities, right now, are achieving a perfect
>> integration with Ubuntu in almost all aspects of Lubuntu identity,
>> including brand marks, colour specs, design lines, advertising (if any),
>> social networks presence, etc. Also, a good entrance, such as a good
>> website is, could do the downloading process more easy for end-users. In
>> case of Lubuntu Team, that's not me, is Canonical who adverted that we must
>> be close to them (you can check the design LInes published at
>> design.canonical.com).
>>
>> All of this makes TOO a good distro, not only the code. And I must be
>> clear about I'm not deprecating the coder's work, but you must admit that
>> design is always the last everybody think in for everything, and that's a
>> big mistake. Ok, an icon is a tiny thing, but I'm trying to make the
>> Lubuntu image rock solid and homogeneous for three years, with not too much
>> success, I must to say.
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread b g
This newsletter has become full of things that are minor or even
inconsequential to most of us.

2011/11/17 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) 

> **
> Of course I'm serious. My priorities, right now, are achieving a perfect
> integration with Ubuntu in almost all aspects of Lubuntu identity,
> including brand marks, colour specs, design lines, advertising (if any),
> social networks presence, etc. Also, a good entrance, such as a good
> website is, could do the downloading process more easy for end-users. In
> case of Lubuntu Team, that's not me, is Canonical who adverted that we must
> be close to them (you can check the design LInes published at
> design.canonical.com).
>
> All of this makes TOO a good distro, not only the code. And I must be
> clear about I'm not deprecating the coder's work, but you must admit that
> design is always the last everybody think in for everything, and that's a
> big mistake. Ok, an icon is a tiny thing, but I'm trying to make the
> Lubuntu image rock solid and homogeneous for three years, with not too much
> success, I must to say.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread (Rafael Laguna)
Of course I'm serious. My priorities, right now, are achieving a perfect
integration with Ubuntu in almost all aspects of Lubuntu identity,
including brand marks, colour specs, design lines, advertising (if any),
social networks presence, etc. Also, a good entrance, such as a good
website is, could do the downloading process more easy for end-users. In
case of Lubuntu Team, that's not me, is Canonical who adverted that we
must be close to them (you can check the design LInes published at
design.canonical.com).

All of this makes TOO a good distro, not only the code. And I must be
clear about I'm not deprecating the coder's work, but you must admit
that design is always the last everybody think in for everything, and
that's a big mistake. Ok, an icon is a tiny thing, but I'm trying to
make the Lubuntu image rock solid and homogeneous for three years, with
not too much success, I must to say.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread Rafael Laguna
The Launchpad one, the Lubuntu Team avatar is old. Sorry, can't avoid it,
you know me :D
El 17/11/2011 18:23, "William Mcleod"  escribió:

> I second this
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:50:34 -
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread William Mcleod
I second this
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install Problem

2011-11-17 Thread Tim Bernhard
Thanks Stephen,

I found that to enter GRUB you simply press and hold SHIFT.  I added the
parameter to the end of the the boot command and booted they system and it
did the same thing.Lubuntu splash and then the screen goes blank.


Tim

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Smally wrote:

>  On 11/17/2011 04:49 AM, Tim Bernhard wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
>  I'm, trying to resurrect an old Sony Vaio PCG-9401.  This thing is an
> old Windose ME machine that came with AMD processor, 12GB hard drive and
> 64mb of RAM.  I had a 128mb stick of pc-100 so I dropped that in to bring
> the RAM up to 192mb.  I installed Lubuntu using the mini.iso.  It took a
> while but the install completed.
>
>  The problem is that after rebooting the system I get the following
> message:
>
>  vt596_smbus :00:07.4: SMBUS: Error: Host SMBus controller not
> enabled! - upgrade BIOS or use force=1
>
>
>  After that, the Lubuntu splash screen is briefly displayed and then the
> screen goes blank.
>
>  Any ideas?
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Tim
>
>
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> try to enter into the grub (you have to hit some keys if it doesn't show
> up automatically, something like Canc, google for it), go on the line that
> says "L/Ubuntu * with Linux *" (* means the version of the system, 11.10
> with linux 3 or so on), enter "e" (to edit the entry) and add force=1 after
> "quiet splash".
>
> this because the message says:
>
> upgrade BIOS or use force=1
>
> This mean that you grub is too old for Lubuntu, you have to upgrade it, or
> you can add force=1 at the start to avoid the problem.
> if it works i will tell you how to make it persistent (by default when you
> edit an entry the changes you made aren't persistent).
>
> Stephen Smally
>
> P.S. sorry for the different font
>
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2011-11-17 Thread 神癒礁湖
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install Problem

2011-11-17 Thread Stephen Smally

On 11/17/2011 04:49 AM, Tim Bernhard wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I'm, trying to resurrect an old Sony Vaio PCG-9401.  This thing is an 
old Windose ME machine that came with AMD processor, 12GB hard drive 
and 64mb of RAM.  I had a 128mb stick of pc-100 so I dropped that in 
to bring the RAM up to 192mb.  I installed Lubuntu using the mini.iso. 
 It took a while but the install completed.


The problem is that after rebooting the system I get the following 
message:


vt596_smbus :00:07.4: SMBUS: Error: Host SMBus controller not 
enabled! - upgrade BIOS or use force=1



After that, the Lubuntu splash screen is briefly displayed and then 
the screen goes blank.


Any ideas?

Thanks,

Tim


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try to enter into the grub (you have to hit some keys if it doesn't show 
up automatically, something like Canc, google for it), go on the line 
that says "L/Ubuntu * with Linux *" (* means the version of the system, 
11.10 with linux 3 or so on), enter "e" (to edit the entry) and add 
force=1 after "quiet splash".

this because the message says:

upgrade BIOS or use force=1

This mean that you grub is too old for Lubuntu, you have to upgrade it, 
or you can add force=1 at the start to avoid the problem.
if it works i will tell you how to make it persistent (by default when 
you edit an entry the changes you made aren't persistent).


Stephen Smally

P.S. sorry for the different font

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs

2011-11-17 Thread Jared Norris
On 17 November 2011 12:42, Mario Behling  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Launchpads/Canonical policies demand that the lubuntu team becomes
> moderated. More info below. I had to change the group to moderated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mario
>
>


I can totally understand the policy but wondered if there was a
different solution. Would it be useful to keep lubuntu-desktop open
and switch the PPA to another team like
https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-packaging for example? For mine I'd
really only want to see the developers having access to upload to the
PPA anyway, especially now we're growing in size with the nature of
becoming official. Moderating the lubuntu-desktop group still means
there are hundreds of people able to upload to the PPA unless I don't
understand Launchpad teams properly (which is also highly likely).

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