Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs

2011-11-17 Thread Jared Norris
On 17 November 2011 12:42, Mario Behling m...@mariobehling.de wrote:
 Dear all,

 Launchpads/Canonical policies demand that the lubuntu team becomes
 moderated. More info below. I had to change the group to moderated.

 Thanks,

 Mario




I can totally understand the policy but wondered if there was a
different solution. Would it be useful to keep lubuntu-desktop open
and switch the PPA to another team like
https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-packaging for example? For mine I'd
really only want to see the developers having access to upload to the
PPA anyway, especially now we're growing in size with the nature of
becoming official. Moderating the lubuntu-desktop group still means
there are hundreds of people able to upload to the PPA unless I don't
understand Launchpad teams properly (which is also highly likely).

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install Problem

2011-11-17 Thread Stephen Smally

On 11/17/2011 04:49 AM, Tim Bernhard wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I'm, trying to resurrect an old Sony Vaio PCG-9401.  This thing is an 
old Windose ME machine that came with AMD processor, 12GB hard drive 
and 64mb of RAM.  I had a 128mb stick of pc-100 so I dropped that in 
to bring the RAM up to 192mb.  I installed Lubuntu using the mini.iso. 
 It took a while but the install completed.


The problem is that after rebooting the system I get the following 
message:


vt596_smbus :00:07.4: SMBUS: Error: Host SMBus controller not 
enabled! - upgrade BIOS or use force=1



After that, the Lubuntu splash screen is briefly displayed and then 
the screen goes blank.


Any ideas?

Thanks,

Tim


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try to enter into the grub (you have to hit some keys if it doesn't show 
up automatically, something like Canc, google for it), go on the line 
that says L/Ubuntu * with Linux * (* means the version of the system, 
11.10 with linux 3 or so on), enter e (to edit the entry) and add 
force=1 after quiet splash.

this because the message says:

upgrade BIOS or use force=1

This mean that you grub is too old for Lubuntu, you have to upgrade it, 
or you can add force=1 at the start to avoid the problem.
if it works i will tell you how to make it persistent (by default when 
you edit an entry the changes you made aren't persistent).


Stephen Smally

P.S. sorry for the different font

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[Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread 神癒礁湖
Please, Mario, CHANGE THE LOGO! :D
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install Problem

2011-11-17 Thread Tim Bernhard
Thanks Stephen,

I found that to enter GRUB you simply press and hold SHIFT.  I added the
parameter to the end of the the boot command and booted they system and it
did the same thing.Lubuntu splash and then the screen goes blank.


Tim

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Smally eco.st...@fastwebnet.itwrote:

  On 11/17/2011 04:49 AM, Tim Bernhard wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

  I'm, trying to resurrect an old Sony Vaio PCG-9401.  This thing is an
 old Windose ME machine that came with AMD processor, 12GB hard drive and
 64mb of RAM.  I had a 128mb stick of pc-100 so I dropped that in to bring
 the RAM up to 192mb.  I installed Lubuntu using the mini.iso.  It took a
 while but the install completed.

  The problem is that after rebooting the system I get the following
 message:

  vt596_smbus :00:07.4: SMBUS: Error: Host SMBus controller not
 enabled! - upgrade BIOS or use force=1


  After that, the Lubuntu splash screen is briefly displayed and then the
 screen goes blank.

  Any ideas?

  Thanks,

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 try to enter into the grub (you have to hit some keys if it doesn't show
 up automatically, something like Canc, google for it), go on the line that
 says L/Ubuntu * with Linux * (* means the version of the system, 11.10
 with linux 3 or so on), enter e (to edit the entry) and add force=1 after
 quiet splash.

 this because the message says:

 upgrade BIOS or use force=1

 This mean that you grub is too old for Lubuntu, you have to upgrade it, or
 you can add force=1 at the start to avoid the problem.
 if it works i will tell you how to make it persistent (by default when you
 edit an entry the changes you made aren't persistent).

 Stephen Smally

 P.S. sorry for the different font


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread William Mcleod
I second this
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread Rafael Laguna
The Launchpad one, the Lubuntu Team avatar is old. Sorry, can't avoid it,
you know me :D
El 17/11/2011 18:23, William Mcleod williammcl...@gmail.com escribió:

 I second this
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  Please, Mario, CHANGE THE LOGO! :D
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread (Rafael Laguna)
Of course I'm serious. My priorities, right now, are achieving a perfect
integration with Ubuntu in almost all aspects of Lubuntu identity,
including brand marks, colour specs, design lines, advertising (if any),
social networks presence, etc. Also, a good entrance, such as a good
website is, could do the downloading process more easy for end-users. In
case of Lubuntu Team, that's not me, is Canonical who adverted that we
must be close to them (you can check the design LInes published at
design.canonical.com).

All of this makes TOO a good distro, not only the code. And I must be
clear about I'm not deprecating the coder's work, but you must admit
that design is always the last everybody think in for everything, and
that's a big mistake. Ok, an icon is a tiny thing, but I'm trying to
make the Lubuntu image rock solid and homogeneous for three years, with
not too much success, I must to say.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread b g
This newsletter has become full of things that are minor or even
inconsequential to most of us.

2011/11/17 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com

 **
 Of course I'm serious. My priorities, right now, are achieving a perfect
 integration with Ubuntu in almost all aspects of Lubuntu identity,
 including brand marks, colour specs, design lines, advertising (if any),
 social networks presence, etc. Also, a good entrance, such as a good
 website is, could do the downloading process more easy for end-users. In
 case of Lubuntu Team, that's not me, is Canonical who adverted that we must
 be close to them (you can check the design LInes published at
 design.canonical.com).

 All of this makes TOO a good distro, not only the code. And I must be
 clear about I'm not deprecating the coder's work, but you must admit that
 design is always the last everybody think in for everything, and that's a
 big mistake. Ok, an icon is a tiny thing, but I'm trying to make the
 Lubuntu image rock solid and homogeneous for three years, with not too much
 success, I must to say.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread Chris
Aloha b,

First of all, it's not a newsletter, it's a mailing-list. It's not only a
place for announcing the newest version of Lubuntu, it's a place for
discussion.

Secondly I agree with Raphael that the theme should be nigh prefect and
consistent everywhere. That is one selling point of a distribution.

With metta, Chris
On Nov 17, 2011 8:54 PM, b g graysoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 This newsletter has become full of things that are minor or even
 inconsequential to most of us.

 2011/11/17 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com

 **
 Of course I'm serious. My priorities, right now, are achieving a perfect
 integration with Ubuntu in almost all aspects of Lubuntu identity,
 including brand marks, colour specs, design lines, advertising (if any),
 social networks presence, etc. Also, a good entrance, such as a good
 website is, could do the downloading process more easy for end-users. In
 case of Lubuntu Team, that's not me, is Canonical who adverted that we must
 be close to them (you can check the design LInes published at
 design.canonical.com).

 All of this makes TOO a good distro, not only the code. And I must be
 clear about I'm not deprecating the coder's work, but you must admit that
 design is always the last everybody think in for everything, and that's a
 big mistake. Ok, an icon is a tiny thing, but I'm trying to make the
 Lubuntu image rock solid and homogeneous for three years, with not too much
 success, I must to say.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread Michael Rawson
I agree. While 11.10 was a big step over 11.04, 12.04 just needs some polish 
and it could be a really big seller.

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:03:38 +0100
Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aloha b,
 
 First of all, it's not a newsletter, it's a mailing-list. It's not only a
 place for announcing the newest version of Lubuntu, it's a place for
 discussion.
 
 Secondly I agree with Raphael that the theme should be nigh prefect and
 consistent everywhere. That is one selling point of a distribution.
 
 With metta, Chris
 On Nov 17, 2011 8:54 PM, b g graysoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  This newsletter has become full of things that are minor or even
  inconsequential to most of us.
 
  2011/11/17 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com
 
  **
  Of course I'm serious. My priorities, right now, are achieving a perfect
  integration with Ubuntu in almost all aspects of Lubuntu identity,
  including brand marks, colour specs, design lines, advertising (if any),
  social networks presence, etc. Also, a good entrance, such as a good
  website is, could do the downloading process more easy for end-users. In
  case of Lubuntu Team, that's not me, is Canonical who adverted that we must
  be close to them (you can check the design LInes published at
  design.canonical.com).
 
  All of this makes TOO a good distro, not only the code. And I must be
  clear about I'm not deprecating the coder's work, but you must admit that
  design is always the last everybody think in for everything, and that's a
  big mistake. Ok, an icon is a tiny thing, but I'm trying to make the
  Lubuntu image rock solid and homogeneous for three years, with not too much
  success, I must to say.
 
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc Port to Vala

2011-11-17 Thread Stephen Smally

This message is target for the Lubuntu Software Center Team!

Hi, i have started the port from Python to Vala, the branch is 
lp:~lubuntu-software-center-team/lubuntu-software-center/vala-port, so 
the ppa use the Python version (the package is not broken), there is a 
README inside, let me know if something is not clear.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc Port to Vala

2011-11-17 Thread Michael Rawson
So you're converting from python to vala? All for it, I'm happy to test it. 
might improve the speed of things, too... If I understand vala correctly?

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:23:16 +0100
Stephen Smally eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote:

 This message is target for the Lubuntu Software Center Team!
 
 Hi, i have started the port from Python to Vala, the branch is 
 lp:~lubuntu-software-center-team/lubuntu-software-center/vala-port, so 
 the ppa use the Python version (the package is not broken), there is a 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread (Rafael Laguna)
That's right, this is the right place for discussions about the distro.
And I dont want anybody be angry of my words (in fact, it was a bit a
joke for Mario). But I'm still thinking that we must be stronger and
graphic design or advertising are powerful tools for that purpose. And,
I'd like to use this mailing thread to anounce a few things I've got in
mind, and I need your opinion.

- a design / graphics / publishing line cheat is under development (like
Kubuntu or Ubuntu's) for those things like signatures, wallpapers,
stickers, and other things that doesn't really fit in marketing (or
maybe yes) and make it distributable for you all (this includes
presentation templates, mail signatures, etc).

- a lubuntu.net mockup is almost ready, but I don't really know if we
can change that. And that's not all, the idea for this is providing a
nice set of mirrors, or at  least, being more concrete about where and
what to download. A lot of users were confused.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Some considerations about the Precise theme

2011-11-17 Thread Stephen Smally

  
  
Hi, i've got some consideration
about the future Precise theme for Lubuntu.

Lubuntu should have a most professional and clean look as
possible, so:

1 - i like a lot the default light grey panel in 10.04 and
10.10, and i think is a good compromise between style and
professionality:

2 - we should use a monochrome logo for the menu (+1 close to
ubuntu), suggestion:

3 - i like the default openbox theme in Oneiric, but the borders
of the windows should be grey, not black.
suggestion RGB: 3c3c3c

Stephen Smally
  
  

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some considerations about the Precise theme

2011-11-17 Thread 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna)

  
  
Stop reading my mind! :D

Well, I don't like to repeat myself, and one black (and polemic)
dark taskbar is enough. So yes, we're going that way. More Adwaita
style, even Clearlooks (not looking sooo eighties, of course).

Anyway, you'll have time for choose colours, borders and everything
else. But you'll know that the wallpaper must be BLUE ;)

I'll post some mockups in a week (or two).

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc Port to Vala

2011-11-17 Thread PCMan
Great!
I started to use Vala recently and I like it a lot!
Easy to use, and directly compiled to plain C.
Almost as easy to use as python.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread Julien Lavergne
Could you publish the logo on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing, with 
different sizes ?
I'll do the change just after :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] logo

2011-11-17 Thread Mario Behling
HI Rafael,

cool. Do you have a draft of the mockup?

The current site is based on the Ubuntu Drupal theme. It seems this project
is not so active anymore and there are better theme options.

Currently, we have a few people who have admin access and can change
things. It seems though that the theme has several bugs and every time
someone changes something there are broken links or images do not work. It
is a quite boring task to fix that again and again.

So, I want to throw the theme over board and implement a completely new
theme: light, fast and clearly integrated. Looking forward to receive your
ideas for the mockup.

- Mario


2011/11/18 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com

 **
 That's right, this is the right place for discussions about the distro.
 And I dont want anybody be angry of my words (in fact, it was a bit a joke
 for Mario). But I'm still thinking that we must be stronger and graphic
 design or advertising are powerful tools for that purpose. And, I'd like to
 use this mailing thread to anounce a few things I've got in mind, and I
 need your opinion.

 - a design / graphics / publishing line cheat is under development (like
 Kubuntu or Ubuntu's) for those things like signatures, wallpapers,
 stickers, and other things that doesn't really fit in marketing (or maybe
 yes) and make it distributable for you all (this includes presentation
 templates, mail signatures, etc).

 - a lubuntu.net mockup is almost ready, but I don't really know if we can
 change that. And that's not all, the idea for this is providing a nice set
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 download. A lot of users were confused.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Website lubuntu.net design

2011-11-17 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi,

Since there are some interests in lubuntu.net, I made a wiki page to gather 
ideas about it. Feel free to add you ideas to 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing/Website_Plan. We can after decide a 
plan for the website.

Thanks.

Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs

2011-11-17 Thread Julien Lavergne
Thanks Mario.

Currently, the situation is not very nice, the mailing list is not open 
anymore, and the PPA is too common. We have to change the mailing or the PPA 
location, or both.

About the mailing list, the best solution is probably to swith to one (or 1 for 
user help, and 1 for devel ?) on https://lists.ubuntu.com/, since it's a more 
standart mailing list (no need to be member of the team).

The PPA will probably diseapears with the time, we need more specialized PPAs, 
instead of one with many varous stuff in it.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:42:52 +0700
Mario Behling m...@mariobehling.de wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 Launchpads/Canonical policies demand that the lubuntu team becomes
 moderated. More info below. I had to change the group to moderated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mario
 
 
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 Date: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:25 AM
 Subject: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs
 
 
 Last week we wrote to tell you that on 2011-11-23 we will be changing the
 membership policy of your Launchpad team lubuntu-desktop to moderated.
 We're doing this to protect the people who use that team's Personal Package
 Archive (PPA).
 
 Right now, lubuntu-desktop has an open membership policy, meaning anyone
 can join the team and upload potentially malicious packages to the PPA.
 
 We strongly recommend that you change your team's membership policy now and
 audit the team's membership to make sure that you trust each member.
 
 You can change the team's membership policy here:
 
  https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+edit
 
 Otherwise, you can delete the team's PPA and retain the open membership
 policy.
 
 Before you can create a new team PPA, a team's membership policy must be
 either moderated or restricted. Your team was created before we improved
 the security around team PPAs.
 
 These changes won't have any affect on the team's current members. However
 it does mean that you'll have to approve new team members.
 
 There's more about Launchpad's team membership policies here:
 
  https://help.launchpad.net/Teams/CreatingAndRunning
 
 Email feedb...@launchpad.net if you have any questions.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Steve Kowalik
 On behalf of the Launchpad team
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs

2011-11-17 Thread Mario Behling
Hi,

yes agree. Let me know what I can do, if you need help with the set up.

Thanks,

Mario


On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Thanks Mario.

 Currently, the situation is not very nice, the mailing list is not open 
 anymore, and the PPA is too common. We have to change the mailing or the PPA 
 location, or both.

 About the mailing list, the best solution is probably to swith to one (or 1 
 for user help, and 1 for devel ?) on https://lists.ubuntu.com/, since it's a 
 more standart mailing list (no need to be member of the team).

 The PPA will probably diseapears with the time, we need more specialized 
 PPAs, instead of one with many varous stuff in it.

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne

 On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:42:52 +0700
 Mario Behling m...@mariobehling.de wrote:

 Dear all,

 Launchpads/Canonical policies demand that the lubuntu team becomes
 moderated. More info below. I had to change the group to moderated.

 Thanks,

 Mario


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 From: Steve Kowalik steve.kowa...@canonical.com
 Date: Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:25 AM
 Subject: Launchpad: Reminder about lubuntu-desktop's PPAs


 Last week we wrote to tell you that on 2011-11-23 we will be changing the
 membership policy of your Launchpad team lubuntu-desktop to moderated.
 We're doing this to protect the people who use that team's Personal Package
 Archive (PPA).

 Right now, lubuntu-desktop has an open membership policy, meaning anyone
 can join the team and upload potentially malicious packages to the PPA.

 We strongly recommend that you change your team's membership policy now and
 audit the team's membership to make sure that you trust each member.

 You can change the team's membership policy here:

  https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+edit

 Otherwise, you can delete the team's PPA and retain the open membership
 policy.

 Before you can create a new team PPA, a team's membership policy must be
 either moderated or restricted. Your team was created before we improved
 the security around team PPAs.

 These changes won't have any affect on the team's current members. However
 it does mean that you'll have to approve new team members.

 There's more about Launchpad's team membership policies here:

  https://help.launchpad.net/Teams/CreatingAndRunning

 Email feedb...@launchpad.net if you have any questions.

 Thanks,

 Steve Kowalik
 On behalf of the Launchpad team


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some considerations about the Precise theme

2011-11-17 Thread



But you'll know that the wallpaper must be BLUE ;)

I would like to propose... Lubuntu going for _*GREEN*_!
110% in agreement on that one. I usually end up tweaking everything 
green anyways.


wxl
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