Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Jo Gerb]

Ok, i built up an old System with Pentium (i don't know if II or IV,  
360 MHz) and 128 MBytes of RAM. It Takes very Long to boot and it  
First seems like the pc wouldnt respond any more, but about 10 minutes  
with Black screen you can see the panel and the Cursor- no Desktop and  
no icons there. I didnt realize the arrow-Symbol to be the One for  
network, maybe we should use another one. The System itself is  
extremely slow, but thats the hardware (im just used to my 4gb RAM:-))  
maybe we could use something else for the graphics , like kolourpaint  
or so. The People we aim at are used to ms paint, and what we offer  
them in lubuntu is too complicated. Ill go on in testing and ill write  
again later. Have a nice time, Jo


Am 15.02.2010 um 19:14 schrieb Leszek Lesner :


On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:18:05 +
Glen Bizeau  wrote:


Did a quick download and run in a VBOX this AM.

Te first thing I noticed is the same stratup bar as fedora??? Whats
with that? you know what everyone will say!


It is simply plymouth (yeah Fedora invented it and Ubuntu is now  
using it too). Seeing only the blue bar is a indicator that your  
graphicscard is not supported well enough.
In the final version nvidia (thx to nouveau) ati (open ati driver)  
and intel will show a nice splash screen.





Other than that, I like it, running it in a VBOX with 384 RAM,
everything seems snappy. Will do further testing and post any bugs I
find later.

Thanks Julien.

Glen



On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:

Hi,

I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new  
features.
Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered  
stable,

see warnings for Lucid Alpha :

"Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a  
stable
system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional,  
even
frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu  
developers

and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."

Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
* Main changes in the seed :
 - chromium for the browser
 - gnome-mplayer for the videos
 - network-manager for the network
* New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but  
it's
quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I  
like

it :)
* A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You  
need
to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and  
enter

login "ubuntu" without password.

Known bugs:
* pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more  
integration

to be usable. It is still available by using "pcmanfm2"
* If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment  
when
you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as  
normal.

* Bug reported during testing :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu- 
lucid-20100215.iso


Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Jo Gerb]

There was not really a thread about games. I just said that maybe the  
People who will use lubuntu wont have Internet at all, and Even if  
they have a (slowly) connection, they wont know how to install games.  
So no matter how many games there are available, they wont play them.  
If we put one or too small Games into lubuntu, these people would  
thank us . I thought about sth like minesweeper  and snake, maybe also  
a cardsgame'



To the colours: of course there are other distributions with green,  
and maybe also some with lxde. But lubuntu wont Be a Small  
Distribution with lxde, it will become an official ubuntu derivat . We  
should concentrate  on that fact and just see the logos and colours of  
the other officially ubuntubased distributions such As xubuntu and  
kubuntu. Both of them are Blue. And lubuntu: i don't like purple.  
Green would fit into the philsophy of lubuntu and lxde: Not needing  
many Ressources, you can use your old computer and don't have to buy a  
New one. I would keep on green.


Best regards,
Jo

Am 18.02.2010 um 07:10 schrieb "josef A. Beroeatwarin" >:



Hello again
 Its working very nice..and for the nm-applet much better that  
wicd.

I ditch the chromium browser because its no my flavor in my opinion.
I have only one small problem with my wireless broadband. I use
huawei e220. its Doesn't detected in nm-applet but in lsusb it is  
detected.
In the  first alpha stage it was working with NM-applet with the  
latest kernel upgrade.

Tonight I will try again using PPP or wvdial.

Somebody talk about games.. where is the tread?? :-D
I really need 2 games that is really working on my netbook :-D

Gdebi installer would be nice or something like that in Lubuntu??

 And does Gdebi really help for people that has no internet. Because  
in Indonesia
not everybody can affort internet connection. And even if they have  
it,it will be cellphone using as modems.
 It would be nice if there is something like that for updating  
packages or what-ever to install/update without internet

in deb packages.

thanks
Josef A. Beroeatwarin...


Mike Nokel wrote:


2010/2/17 Sylkis 
1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows,
as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets
switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago,
that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was
unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly
biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there  
are

relatively few of them
2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be
for old computers in the first place, not netbooks...

12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :)

1) ok. It was only my opinion.
2) I understand. May be then remove it from panel? Empty space  
isn't good idea, I think.

12) Oh, I see. Thank you.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] colours

[Jo Gerb]

its just that lubuntuusers wont have to buy a new computer, they can still
use their old one (good for our planet). Lubuntu needs less ressources than
other distributions. lxde is leightweight, and i dont know, but i associate
that with green. like a flower or a tree that can grow on a little piece of
earth with some water and some light not needing much more, lubuntu will be
usable on (almost) every hardware.

2010/2/18 Sylkis 

> what does green have to filosophy of either ubuntu or LXDE? and why purple
> doesn't?
> but I even like the screenshots, even though it resembles openSUSE, which
> associates me badly. the green used there is not so dirty as I was almost
> sure it would be, and problably it is why I have ben so plesantly suprised
> :) but still i'd use a darker and more pure colour for titlebar of second
> screen.
>
> 2010/2/18 jo franz 
>
> hm, ok, purple is a trendcolour. thats right, its in (even if some
>> magazines say that grey is the new purple), but it will become out again.
>> maybe one year, maybe three, but same as neon-colours: totally cool now (and
>> in the 80ies), but forgotten and ugly in some years.
>> Our logo (and thats were i want the colourchange, even if the ubuntu logo
>> is yellow and orange and brown, many parts of the standard theme are grey)
>> should have a colour thats always ok, like a evergreen . purple has nothing
>> to do with the philosophy of lxde or lubuntu. green has.  i changed your
>> screenshot to green (just for comparison) and made some on my own.
>>
>> i made the files brown, a purple/blue/green wallpaper and logo doesn't
>> meen that every little symbol has to have that colour.
>> best regards, jo.
>>
>>
>> 2010/2/18 Sylkis 
>>
>> I didn't say it's pink. but it's more of a tone of pinkish varieties of
>>> violet ;) and I just know how many people would react depite it looks good
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/2/18 Jonay Santana 
>>>
>>>   Looks nice to me. And I wouldn't call it "pink", it looks more like
 "purple"... ;)

 On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Sylkis  wrote:

> I think it is going in a good direction - a minimal gamma correction to
> make it look less pink (especially the lighter part of wallparer), maybe
> base it on #4B0082 indigo? and I think we have an original, good look. I
> think it's nice even now, but many people would call it 'gay' (I didn't 
> want
> to use that word, but don't know how to say that nicely, I hope you guys
> understand), that why I propose less pinkish hue.
>
>
>
> 2010/2/18 神癒礁湖 
>
>>  Wow, I see an explossion about colour issue. Please, check the theme
>> wiki and see the options. I've made a few wallpapers for matching the 
>> blue
>> colours. And I must be clear, I've received from Canonical the colour
>> specifications about usage, logos, trademarks and Pantone(tm) references.
>> That's why Xubuntu and Kubuntu (and "official" derivatives, as we want to
>> be) are "blue". Anyway, look at this shot:
>>
>>
>>
>> Is the purple / pink background with dark panel. As you can see
>> there're a lot of combinations, but remaining theme specs. I'll made a 
>> poll
>> to request your preferences about GUI details.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Adding HDD software to default programs

[Jo Gerb]

I think its not that important if the program is simple. The people  
who want to format a Partition of their hdd should get gparted cause  
with that they have all possibilities. And people who don't Know what  
they are doing shouldnt use the program, otherwise they would just do  
sth wrong and erase some data or so. But how to keep These users away  
from the program? We all know that a simple warning- sign would Be  
ignored. I think if the program looks complicated, many People just  
Close the window.
Of course this is not the best thing, but with gparted we would give  
the users who know what they do a great hddtool, and we could also  
keep the others from causing any damage on their data.

So what do you think?

Best regards,
Jo



Am 20.02.2010 um 02:00 schrieb 神癒礁湖 :


...or gnome-format, more simple.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Adding HDD software to default programs

[Jo Gerb]

I agree with you: gparted, hidden in a menu, would Be the Best Choice  .

Best regards,
Jo

Am 20.02.2010 um 23:17 schrieb Sylkis :

Windows XP also has built-in utilities like gparted, but way more  
primitive and thus with less capabilities. Still, I've never heard  
of anyone accidentally doing damage to his partition on windows  
because of that, as the tool is hidden somewhere in the control  
panel - same as I belive gparted would be hidden in settings/ 
administration/whatever menu, so I see no danger in it. And I see no  
point in putting there any less-powerful program, as I bet no one  
will use it (waste of space and unnecessary load on the image), but  
download gparted from repositories - because anyone who will look  
for such utility will be aware enough to do that.



2010/2/20 Jo Gerb 
I think its not that important if the program is simple. The people  
who want to format a Partition of their hdd should get gparted cause  
with that they have all possibilities. And people who don't Know  
what they are doing shouldnt use the program, otherwise they would  
just do sth wrong and erase some data or so. But how to keep These  
users away from the program? We all know that a simple warning- sign  
would Be ignored. I think if the program looks complicated, many  
People just Close the window.
Of course this is not the best thing, but with gparted we would give  
the users who know what they do a great hddtool, and we could also  
keep the others from causing any damage on their data.

So what do you think?

Best regards,
Jo



Am 20.02.2010 um 02:00 schrieb 神癒礁湖 :


...or gnome-format, more simple.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Jo Gerb]

to the config file for chromium: it supports html5, doesnt't it? maybe we
should also activate the youtube- html5-testmode. this should need less ram
than videos in flash.

2010/2/21 Leszek Lesner 

> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:33:32 +
> Lee Briggs  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've had a quick test and I'd say there was a few things missing.
> >
> > There is no mouse cursor theme at the moment, can I recommennd
> > dmz-cursor-theme from the repos.
> >
> Good idea +1
>
> > Also, creating a config file for Chromium in the skel directory might be
> > useful.
> >
> Already known
> > Also, might be just a problem for me, but the battery indicator didn't
> show
> > up  - I'm guessing the icon is missing from the theme. The power manager
> is
> > running, but there was no icon.
> >
> Already known (see the postings and feedback to this topic)
> > Is there any plan to include two panels as opposed to the one, sticking
> with
> > the Ubuntu/Xubuntu norm?
> >
> I think it was decided not to change. 2 Panels is too much for a netbook or
> small device screen.
>
> > Also, I'm aware you installed pidgin, but was any consideration ever
> given
> > to ayttm? Its multi-protocol, super lightweight and pretty darn good.
> >
> Nice app. You can propose ayttm if its in the repos.
>
> > Will notify-osd be included or are you sticking with notification-daemon?
> >
> I think there will be no notify-osd. (So I guess we will stick to
> notification-daemon)
> > I think thats all for now, if I think of anything else I'll send it in,
> > overall its an excellent release
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

[Jo Gerb]

Am 25.02.2010 um 00:22 schrieb Julien Lavergne :


Le mercredi 24 février 2010 à 20:24 +0100, Jo Gerb a écrit :

look, thats what i meant:
the icons arejust not in the middle. maybe its also an optical
illusion because of the little line under the quicklaunchers that
doesn't continue under the tabs.

Ok now I see it. Yes it seems to be a bug.


and something i forgot: for root-pw i just pressed space and ignored
the warnings. But the login window didn't take  space as a password,
it just returned to the user-choice. On the console i could login and
change the pw.

You should not be able to login with root with the login manager. Or
maybe I don't understand what you mean ?


Sorry, i mean the pw you choose during the installation. Space is Not  
possiple for login with the GUI, but with console its okay.

Has sdl to many dependencies? if not, we could include that and write
some easy games there.
Not sure we will include games, well I didn't find good idea/example  
to

include them properly. And sdl is still extra depends.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"

[Jo Gerb]

another quick test: the alpha runs great, fast and quite stable.  Some
problems with pcmanfm2 , but its still in developement so thats okay (for
example no auto-mount of usb drives, and i couldn't mount my usb-sticks at
all).
the new design is great.
I also like Leszek's idea: is it too late for including that, or is it still
possible? if yes, we should do that.

best regards
jo

2010/2/26 Sylkis 

> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Sylkis 
> Date: 2010/2/26
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"
> To: Leszek Lesner 
>
>
> > One big feature request for pcmanfm2 (future releases not crucial to this
> > lubuntu release):
> > Add a right click submenu that opens up the folder content when hovering.
> This
> > is a very nice feature that was originally integrated in BeOS and would
> make
> > working on desktop and in folders amazingly fast.
> > Here a screenshot:
> > http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1086/675582246_2a1dd83e92.jpg
>
>
> wow, I love the idea :D kinda resembles browsing files on fluxbox or
> by windows taskbar (i mean when you put desktop bar to it), but seems
> more practical this way
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Games

[Jo Gerb]

Hey team,

We should think about the games in Lubuntu. I think that with a little
cards-game (like solitaire) and a reaction-game (like snake) most of our
users would be happy. Maybe we also could add a little puzzle-game and
something like Space Invaders, but we have to remember that there's not that
much free space left. We now have to choose some good games with no or just
some dependencies that run fast on old hardware. Do you have any ideas?

Best regards, Jo.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A few suggestions

[Jo Gerb]

Am 27.02.2010 um 15:07 schrieb omer akram :


Hi, I am running the live session of alpha 3 and have a few thoughts

1. make background color of terminal white and rename it in the lxde- 
menus from LXtermnal to Terminal


Okay, that's good.
2. If possible increase the width and height of lxmenu so that the  
icons look a bit bigger


We have to remember that lubuntu will be used on old hardware and the  
monitors won't have a big resolution. Mine has 1024 x 768, and a too  
big menu wouldn't look good


3. make chromium to use the window border of the theme instead of  
chromium. doing this adds minimize effect to chromium.



Good idea.

4. Make Lubuntu Rock. :-)



Yeah, lubuntu rulz ;-)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 3 "Shiny"

[Jo Gerb]

2010/2/27 Julien Lavergne 

> Le vendredi 26 février 2010 à 19:00 +, Steve a écrit :
> > Live session runs in 128MB RAM but launching an application crashes it,
> > not surprising really.
> Actually, it suprise me. I just load the alpha on a 128MB Vbox, it's
> slow but you can launch application without problem. Is it the whole
> desktop which crash or only the application ?
>
>
Me too. i ran the live cd on real hardware (not vm) wit oentium II and 128
MB RAM. i wasn't that fast, but it didn't crash when starting an
application.

> > Neither CDs or flash drives auto-mount, though the floppy drive now
> > appears.
> Reported on
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam/pcmanfm2Testing
> I'll refresh pcmanfm2 package this week-end to enable more debug.
>
> > The panel can’t be moved to the top, with out editing the config file nor
> > does transparency work any more either.  This used to work in Alphas 1 &
> 2.
> I can't reproduce it for the move to the top. You could try to remove
> your config file and logout/login back.
>
> But the transparency doesn't work for me too.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] quick run of lubuntu a3

[Jo Gerb]

hm, thats difficult. when i first saw mtpaint, i really thought it was too
complicated and yes, even a bit ugly. But working with it is great and using
it you have many more possibilities then with gpaint. Even if many people
are used to MS Paint, we should offer them more than some kind of a clone.
MT paint  +1.

2010/2/27 Steve 

> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:47:52 -, 神癒礁湖  wrote:
>
>  I know the default editor in Lubuntu is not user-friendly, and its
>> interface is really "ugly", so I have another suggestion. Take a look at
>> this editor GNU Paint (gpaint), it's like MSPaint, but has a few image
>> effects. It has no dependencies at all, and it's easy to use (too much,
>> I think):
>>
>>
>>  I must admit I’m at a complete loss understanding how mtpaint looks dated
> or ugly, especially when compared to gpaint.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Notes

[Jo Gerb]

I never use them, but I know many people love and need notes. +1

Best regards,
Jo

Am 28.02.2010 um 20:50 schrieb Phill Whiteside :


+1  I live by 'stickies' :-)

2010/2/28 神癒礁湖 
Another suggestion. It would be great to have a notes applications,  
like Tomboy, bu without its resource hungry. So I think XPAD would  
be great. What do you think?









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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Screencasts

[Jo Gerb]

Am 01.03.2010 um 18:42 schrieb Sylkis :


maybe a promt that automatically launches after loading live session,
saying that this is a live session :), what are the consequences of
that (efficiency worse than on regular install, loss of settings each
boot, etc - but being able to look around the system without any
changes on computer) and that the tutorial and installation process
may be launched by clicking the specific icon placed on desktop?




That would Be okay and useful. We should add that.

2010/3/1 Steve :
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:44:15 -, Leszek Lesner >

wrote:


Hi,

what about small short screen-cast tutorials about lubuntu ?
e.g.
   -Showing the installation process
   -Basic Desktop
   -Basic File management
   -...

What do you think about this idea ? Maybe (if we have enough space  
left)

we can also pack some of this videos directly onto the livecd ?


I think that might not be a bad idea, as long as they are kept
short-and-sweet.
An icon on the desktop 'About Lubuntu' or something?

 aren't there some tutorials on the ubuntu livecd? I never watched  
them. And I think many people also don't watch them cause they first  
want to try if they find everything without help. 10 mb more to  
download makes a really long time with a slow Internet connection.
But anyway, we should make these tutorials: if the others vote for  
including them, we should include them - but I could also imagine a  
special startpage for chromium that has a big button "new to lubuntu?"  
and links to these tutorials, some wikis and so on. Like that,  
everyone could decide whether to use the help. Best regards, Jo.






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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] new visual identity in lucid

[Jo Gerb]

I have to say that I don't like the new design, and I'm sure that many  
users think the way I do. But we will all get used to it and we can't  
change it, so I'll just accept it. The important thing is that lubuntu  
and it's design will fit into canonicals ideas. If that's the case,  
I'm okay with the new design.


Best regards,
Jo

Am 04.03.2010 um 19:12 schrieb 神癒礁湖 :


El jue, 04-03-2010 a las 06:22 +0100, Zoltan Matlak escribió:

I just red on slashdot today:
"Canonical has launched a new visual identity for the Ubuntu Linux  
distribution. Ubuntu is shedding its previous brown look and  
adopting a more professional color scheme with purple and orange.  
The colors will be used in a new GNOME theme and boot splash for  
Ubuntu 10.04. According to updated design documents that were  
published in the Ubuntu wiki, 'light' is the underlying concept  
behind the new visual identity. It displaces the 'human' concept  
that has been part of Ubuntu's theming and brand vernacular for the  
past five years. Ubuntu community manager Jono Bacon has posted a  
screenshot and additional information."


Question: is it a goal to have all *buntu variants use the same  
character set or to have common/similar look? Just wondering if the  
lubuntu splash and other logos have to be changed? (saw the xubuntu  
as sample on the site that's why I raised the question)


Thanks
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Yes, we're working on it. Canonical official anouncement was  
released yesterd and surprised a lot. So Lubuntu really is an Ubuntu  
family product we need to match the visual elements according to  
some corporative recommendations under the graphic design manuals.


I'm in contact with branding people, waiting for colour and other  
graphic specifications. Don't care, Lubuntu will be released  
according Canonical's normatives.




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] new logo

[Jo Gerb]

I Love the second design. I know it's just a mockup but it's already  
great. If canonical accepts it and so on, I could really imagine it  
for our new design. So do we have again the discussion about the  
colour of our logo? :-)


Best regards,
Jo

Am 05.03.2010 um 21:41 schrieb Matteo Pagliazzi >:



very beatiful!

2010/3/5 Julián Alarcón 
>
> The new Xubuntu logo (the only Ubuntu flavor logo presented on the  
new
> redesign) designed by Canonical doesn't have an Ubuntu logo so I  
don't think

> there's a need for that
>

According to this page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand2

The just made a Mock Up. And, Xubuntu logo is the same from Ubuntu.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] new logo

[Jo Gerb]

+1 for second choice.

2010/3/6 M. Daub 

>
> +1   for choise 1
>
> Am Samstag, 6. März 2010 12:40:01 schrieb Sylkis:
> > the blue design looks just wonderful! really, really great :)
> > but the green one imo is as much ugly as much blue is pretty... awful
> shade
> > of green (kinda light yellowish dirty, for me the only pretty kind of
> green
> > is deep, lively and dark, like a very young grass in early spring) that
> > doesn't fit the rest of colours at all.
> > I know it's about keeping directions proposed by ubuntu, and that it's
> > early stage and people may have different taste. but I really think that
> > if we should choose green, then other shade of green and paired with
> other
> > colours, cause it just looks unaesthicallly now, it just doesn't match.
> > And if it is impossible due to ubuntu policy, then keeping it just to be
> > different from xubuntu is kinda... stupid. do we really want to be
> > different so much, even at the cost of uglyness?
> > so imo the CHOICE 1 is much better.
> >
> >
> > 2010/3/5 神癒礁湖 
> >
> > >  Hello everybody. As I told you, I'm working on the new logo
> application
> > >  on
> > >
> > > our artwork. This message is only for first impressions, and for
> telling
> > > me your oppinion about colour combination. I explain. Ubuntu now comes
> > > in some versions:
> > >
> > > "normal" (full colour) one is gray and orange
> > > reduction in one colour is only gray
> > > inverted version is pure white
> > >
> > > So, applying these settings to the sub-families (and related products,
> > > like Spread Ubuntu), we have two choices:
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > > *CHOICE 1** (darkblue and softblue)*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This one will generate good applications, but limited in colour use.
> See
> > > how CD wallet could be:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *CHOICE 2** (softblue and limegreen)*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This one is more graphically powerfull and reliable for develop
> > > applications. CD Wallet could be like this:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > These are initial designs. I can't do it "official" because I need
> > > another answer from Ubuntu Art admin with more data. So, what do you
> > > think about this (for the moment)?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] new logo

[Jo Gerb]

I'm the only one for 2? Ok, then I change my mind. That makes it  
easier for the artwork-team.


Best regards,
Jo

Am 07.03.2010 um 03:14 schrieb Henrique P. Machado  
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+1 for 1st one

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Games

[Jo Gerb]

We already had such a thread... Maybe tint (tetris) and a cards game  
as well?


Best regards,
Jo

Am 12.03.2010 um 23:22 schrieb Steve :

With the Beta release looming I think wee should have a couple of  
games on the distro. Anybody any suggestions/thoughts on this. I  
suggest pacman and/or xinv3d.  Any more?



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Games

[Jo Gerb]

ok, then no cards game. I Think thats ok, three games are enough, so lets
take xinv3d, tint and pacman.

One more thing: maybe we could even include kind of an easteregg with our
names, so when you open the "run"-Dialoge and type in "lubuntu credits", a
list of all the people who helped appears.

2010/3/13 Steve 

> On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:05:51 -, Jo Gerb 
> wrote:
>
>  We already had such a thread... Maybe tint (tetris) and a cards game as
>> well?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jo
>>
>> Am 12.03.2010 um 23:22 schrieb Steve :
>>
>>  With the Beta release looming I think wee should have a couple of games
>>> on the distro. Anybody any suggestions/thoughts on this. I suggest pacman
>>> and/or xinv3d.  Any more?
>>>
>>>
>>> --Steve
>>>
>>> Yorvyk
>>>
>>>  I’ve found the original thread now, couldn’t before.
> I can’t find a simple patience type game that has little or no dependencies
> and works.
>
> --
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>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Games

[Jo Gerb]

tint is a simple tetris clone :-) but i also agree with lbreakout2. How many
games should we include?

2010/3/13 神癒礁湖 

>  Agree with Глушков. And I'd like to have a simple tetris clone.
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on ARM devices

[Jo Gerb]

I love the idea. At the moment I'm looking for a little netbook with  
arm CPU ( you know these little things imported from china, with 266  
MHz CPU and 128 mb ram), and as soon as one of these pcs is less than  
50€ on eBay, I'll buy one.   I would love to test lubuntu on that  
device, but actually I don't have the time for doing it all by myself.  
If someone wrote a howto, man, that would be awesome.


If this could become an individual project, we should make a new  
mailing list .


Best regards,
Jo

Am 14.03.2010 um 18:33 schrieb Sylkis :


Hi guys,

I was just wondering - since ultra-lightweightness :) - will there be
an ARM compilation of lubuntu? or more likely - just a way to compile
it by self and being able to use all the system's functionality? I
just got the idea that if lubuntu handles easily old and modern low
end/energy efficient hardware (like netbooks) - could it run on hi-end
mobile devices (MID and smartphone) like HTC TOUCH pro II, etc? I
believe that the hardware efficiency should be enough to handle
lubuntu - and it would allow access to a very large repository of
software to be usable on the phone - the only problem would be that it
would just lack the pure phone service, drivers and software... but
still, personally I'd give it a shot, if I knew how to compile a
system for ARM devices.

AND, of course, there will be some regular netbooks based on ARM
(tegra?) hardware, and since netbook is quite popular idea of where to
use lubuntu - why not also non-x86 netbooks?

I know that there is an ARM compilation of ubuntu and there is going
to be made something similar to UNR for ARMs. so is it possible to use
that ARM kernel and lubuntu-desktop package, or is it a bad idea?

I'm not talking about any official thing for lucid release - more of
an unofficial tip with HOWTO, that maybe would become new unofficial
branch of lubuntu in far away future. what do you think?

best regards, Kuba

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] official release

[Jo Gerb]

http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Lucid_Lynx
this is a german ubuntu- wiki and forum, and the last point here is that
lubuntu is a new *ubuntu with lxde. So it seems to be official , but i know
nothing about a timetable from canonical.

2010/4/1 Phill Whiteside 

> Hi,
>
> in the wiki pages was stated that the was the desire for Lubuntu to enter
> into Canonical's stable of being "officially a *buntu"; as we approach the
> beta2 testing - is there a timetable of Lubuntu actually getting a decision?
>
> Informally, Lubuntu seems to receive support; but has Canonical made the
> decision yet?
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

[Jo Gerb]

i think because we are not in the ubuntu-family yet we dont have to bring a
beta2 when ubuntu releases one. We should take the time, include some more
programs (such as games) and release it when its ready. Even if the first
lubuntu is not an official *buntu, it should be a great, well tested distro.
In my opinion, we dont have to follow the canonical timetable that strict.

Best regards, Jo.

2010/4/11 PCMan 

> Ubuntu beta 2 just came out.
> So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
> Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
> git since there are some important fixes.
> It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
> we'll be ready at the time of 10.10.
> At that time, our google summer of code projects should be finished so
> things are going to be improved.
> In addition, as upower and udisks now have stable releases, it's time
> to support them and provide better user experience.
>
> In the past we always rushed to make new releases for LXDE components
> to test new features.
> Now as the projects grows and more and more people are using it, we
> need to meet the quality requirement of being a major desktop
> environment.
> So a delay to release new components is sometimes better than to
> release a buggy one.
> Let wait and see what will happen at the time of 10.10.
> I bet it will be the best Lubuntu release ever.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 "Multi-Language"

[Jo Gerb]

ok, the http link didnt work first, but just because the md5 from the next
line was taken as a part of the link. without that, its okay. im downloading
it right now, first tests in maybe an hour

2010/4/24 C David Rigby 

> Steve wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:59:50 +0100, Julien Lavergne 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> The Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 is now available. We are now close to the final
>>> release, this beta should be the last one before final release.
>>>
>>> The status of this final release is not determined yet ("beta stable",
>>> "rc final" ...), that's why its a beta and not a rc like other *buntu.
>>> However, final release is still planned for the end of this month, or in
>>> very early May.
>>>
>>> == New stuff since Beta 2 ==
>>> * Many translations directly included.
>>> * Lubuntu-desktop PPA added by default on installation.
>>> * Up-to-date libfm and pcmanfm2.
>>>
>>> == Specific Lubuntu changes ==
>>> Lubuntu still contains modifications not available in the official
>>> repository, you can see them in the Lubuntu PPA [1] :
>>> - New pcmanfm2 and libfm (LP: #523433)
>>> - lubuntu-default-settings with pcmanfm2 support
>>> - Fix for blurry shutdown-icon from elementary-icons (LP: #527345)
>>> - Autologin support in ubiquity (LP: #546445)
>>>
>>>
>>> == Testing needed ==
>>> I'll appreciate some feedbacks about the followings recent additions :
>>> - pcmanfm2, the new filemanager, is still in beta state. Please report
>>> bugs on
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam/pcmanfm2Testing
>>>
>>>
>>> == Known bugs ==
>>> * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
>>> you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as normal.
>>> * Start menu of the Live-CD is not correctly translated.
>>> * Updates available are not shown, you need to manually update your
>>> system.
>>> * See also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam
>>>
>>> == Reporting bugs ==
>>> Bug reported during testing :
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam
>>>
>>> If you want to create a bootable usb system, please use the usb creator
>>> directly on Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> Please follow the testing process described on this page :
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam . You can also
>>> report problems and bugs relative to the tests on this page.
>>>
>>> Torrent: 
>>> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-beta3.iso.torrent
>>> Download: 
>>> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-beta3.iso
>>> Md5: 
>>> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Julien Lavergne
>>>
>>> [1] :  
>>> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
>>>
>>>
>>>  I get the following error when I try to get the torrent file,
>> You don't have permission to access
>> /~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-beta3.iso.torrent on this server.
>>
>>  Ditto, I get the 403 error. Download via http is OK. Cheers, David
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum

[Jo Gerb]

+1 for the tag. If there are tags for kubuntu and xubuntu, people will  
look for a lubuntu tag. If were a complete subsection, they maybe  
won't find us.


Best regards,
Jo

Am 28.04.2010 um 09:29 schrieb C David Rigby :


Phill Whiteside wrote:

Hi,

as promised I've had a chat with a very nice man regarding Lubuntu  
and the main ubuntu support forum. I see that we have two options  
available:


1) A Lubuntu 'tag' much the same as the xubuntu / kubuntu etc. tags  
work

2) A separate sub-forum.

#1 is the easier one to achieve as #2 has the problems of the mods  
then having to herd stuff from the general area onto the lubuntu  
area. If you feel that #1 is un-satisfactory you may ask the Forum  
Council to discuss it at the next meeting but
"I do not think we have a separate xubuntu or kubuntu section, so  
good luck with that =)"

was the reply.

I hope I have not exceeded what I said I would do in 'asking  
around' but, for the lubuntu tag I got
"I will ask the rest of the staff re: lubuntu tag, should be easy  
(I hope)"


Personally, I'd prefer the lubuntu tag rather than us being hidden  
away in some dark corner of the forum, it will encourage people to  
read about lubuntu & hopefully try it out. As always, your views on  
the two options are needed.


Regards,

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Option (1) sounds fine to me. Regards, David

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu games

[Jo Gerb]

Hm, I think that the completeness of lubuntu is quite important. We  
also aim at people who own an old computer and just want to write some  
letters and emails. Of course it's no problem for us to install games  
to our pc with lubuntu, but these people won't know how to do that.  
They will look for a 'games' section in the menu, and because there  
isn't such a section they will think that there are no games for  
lubuntu. Ok, there are hundreds of great games in the repos, but what  
if the users who never really worked with a pc won't ever look in the  
repos or even install something from there?
We don't need many games. We already had the topic, I think we agreed  
on one tetrisclone (tint?) one game with cards and maybe also xinv3d.  
They are lightweight, have no dependencies and are just some kb afaik.  
The people who use lubuntu for a server know how to remove the games  
if they don't want them, but many others wouldn't know how to add them  
if we didn't include them in the final distro. So in my opinion it's  
clear: two or three little games and everone will be happy :-)


Best regards,
Jo

Am 02.05.2010 um 11:53 schrieb Javier Mora >:


I think that games are a very personal thing. One should have the  
games he likes (for example, I installed Extreme Tux Racer and  
Wormux), not a set of pre-defined games that he may or may not like.  
And since Lubuntu aims for low-end machines, servers in which the  
owner wants a graphic environment, and the like, maybe we should let  
the user what games he wants or doesn't want.


Goh Lip escribió:

A small suggestion, checked out the forum and understand the
considerations for and against having default games installed viz...
o not too 'weighty' to weigh down the lubuntu distro
o need to have some games to show 'completeness' of lubuntu.
May I suggest fltk1.1-games as a pre-installed game base?
It is small, quite fun to play? (I don't really know, not a games  
type

of guy), but at least, it's something.
Regards- Goh Lip
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