Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
Le mercredi 24 février 2010 à 20:24 +0100, Jo Gerb a écrit : look, thats what i meant: the icons arejust not in the middle. maybe its also an optical illusion because of the little line under the quicklaunchers that doesn't continue under the tabs. Ok now I see it. Yes it seems to be a bug. and something i forgot: for root-pw i just pressed space and ignored the warnings. But the login window didn't take space as a password, it just returned to the user-choice. On the console i could login and change the pw. You should not be able to login with root with the login manager. Or maybe I don't understand what you mean ? Has sdl to many dependencies? if not, we could include that and write some easy games there. Not sure we will include games, well I didn't find good idea/example to include them properly. And sdl is still extra depends. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
Am 25.02.2010 um 00:22 schrieb Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com: Le mercredi 24 février 2010 à 20:24 +0100, Jo Gerb a écrit : look, thats what i meant: the icons arejust not in the middle. maybe its also an optical illusion because of the little line under the quicklaunchers that doesn't continue under the tabs. Ok now I see it. Yes it seems to be a bug. and something i forgot: for root-pw i just pressed space and ignored the warnings. But the login window didn't take space as a password, it just returned to the user-choice. On the console i could login and change the pw. You should not be able to login with root with the login manager. Or maybe I don't understand what you mean ? Sorry, i mean the pw you choose during the installation. Space is Not possiple for login with the GUI, but with console its okay. Has sdl to many dependencies? if not, we could include that and write some easy games there. Not sure we will include games, well I didn't find good idea/example to include them properly. And sdl is still extra depends. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:36:41 -, Jo Gerb jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote: one more thing: has anyone ever installed a .deb? i tried it with the proxy-GUI from Leszek, but it failed. XArchiver opened and gave a fail (failed to execute child process ar (No such file or directory)). the one synaptic-entry in all applications didnt do anything at all, the other one opened the standard-synaptic window. And in the all applications tab every program appeared two times, synaptic even three times. maybe these both problems are caused by the VM, i couldnt test it on my pII cause theres no internet-connection. i made some screenshots, if you don't know what i mean. Please test if these problems appear also on your pc. Thanks a lot, Jo. It’s the same here. -- Steve ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:36:41 -, Jo Gerb jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote: one more thing: has anyone ever installed a .deb? i tried it with the proxy-GUI from Leszek, but it failed. XArchiver opened and gave a fail (failed to execute child process ar (No such file or directory)). the one synaptic-entry in all applications didnt do anything at all, the other one opened the standard-synaptic window. And in the all applications tab every program appeared two times, synaptic even three times. maybe these both problems are caused by the VM, i couldnt test it on my pII cause theres no internet-connection. i made some screenshots, if you don't know what i mean. Please test if these problems appear also on your pc. Thanks a lot, Jo. It’s the same here. -- Steve ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
Re: battery indicator, it may be a generic 10.04 one, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1411586 Has a simple work around - it may, or may not, solve that problem for you. Regards, Phill. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Lee Briggs l...@leebriggs.co.uk wrote: Hi, I've had a quick test and I'd say there was a few things missing. There is no mouse cursor theme at the moment, can I recommennd dmz-cursor-theme from the repos. Also, creating a config file for Chromium in the skel directory might be useful. Also, might be just a problem for me, but the battery indicator didn't show up - I'm guessing the icon is missing from the theme. The power manager is running, but there was no icon. Is there any plan to include two panels as opposed to the one, sticking with the Ubuntu/Xubuntu norm? Also, I'm aware you installed pidgin, but was any consideration ever given to ayttm? Its multi-protocol, super lightweight and pretty darn good. Will notify-osd be included or are you sticking with notification-daemon? I think thats all for now, if I think of anything else I'll send it in, overall its an excellent release ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
Thanks for the test. Le mercredi 17 février 2010 à 19:20 +0300, Mike Nokel a écrit : Hi. I have found some time to install it on my computer. In general, everything looks and works perfectly. However, there are some problems: 1) by default, there is no keyboard layout controller on the panel. I think, that it should be there. A lot of people uses it in everyday's life. I don't think people change the layout of their keyboard very often. However, there is no easy way to configure this behavior. 2) as for battery monitor on the panel: it should be visible by default. This empty space looks really strange. It's a bug in gnome-power-manager. 3) there is still pcmanfm 0.5.2, not pcmanfm2( In progress. 4) you have included osmo as a default program. My friends and me haven't heard about this program before. And in everyday life may be it is not so necessary to be included, I think. It's something to deal with calendar, tasks, contacts etc ... It could be useful for a bunch of people. 5) without installing packages xscreensaver-gl, xscreensaver-gl-extra, xscreensaver-data-extra I see a lot of error messages telling me that there is no directory /usr/share/backgrounds. It is annoying. I know, It's also annoying for me. I fixed it before, last upload re-introduce the bug. 6) when I launch lxterminal, appeared the window without any string like this: ubu...@ubuntu:~/. But when you hit any key on the keyboard it appears unexpectably. I can't reproduce the problem. you should report a bug under lxterminal. 7) some buttons such as OK, Cancel just don't work (only hitting Close Window helped me to close the windows). It is so when you are configuring panel for example. Please report bugs under programs which are affected, with the exact windows affected. 8) you have used LXDM as a login manager. It is perfect, but it has serious problems: - when I enable autologin on it, I just can't switch my keyboard layout by hitting on the applet on the panel. Only typing sudo lxpanelctl restart helped me. - there is no gui-program to configure LXDM yet. For a lot of people it will be hard to understand what do if they want enable autologin or so on. For now, nothing exist, even upstream. It's something on the TODO list but siomeone need to code it. See bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxdm/+bug/518415 - using LXDM I can't modify PATH variable (even modifying file /etc/profile), so I can't play any games using menu (Menu-Games-...). It won't work. 9) sound card by default doesn't work. So, I have gone to alsa-project.org, downloaded the latest driver, lib and utils, installed it. Run sudo alsaconf and after reboot I heart the sound. It's an alsa bug, not specific to Lubuntu. I think alsa was updated recently on Lucid, maybe it will be fixed for the next update. 10) I've got ati radeon 4670 video, but when I tried to install xorg-driver-fglrx, it tells me that he wants to remove xorg with all its dependencies. Strange behaviour. So, I have only poor 3D now( Surely a temporary problem, Lubuntu is still based on Lucid, which is unstable :) 11) I've tried to install fskbsetting. But when launching it gives me segmentation fault. I don't know why. You should report a bug on this package. 12) May be there should be some games, at least some gnome-games? gnome-games have too much depends on gnome stuff. If you have other idea for little games, maybe :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
My favorite color is blue. +1 blue IMHO green looks like mildew. But I totally agree we need to take the theme that is complete and gets the most votes. For this purpose I will definitely upgrade my NewWave Theme for Lubuntu in the next couple of days (most work will be done on weekend I guess) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Lucid/NewWave So that we will have a choice ;) On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:16:38 + Jonay Santana jonay.sant...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for green. Light green, better. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
Hi. I have found some time to install it on my computer. In general, everything looks and works perfectly. However, there are some problems: 1) by default, there is no keyboard layout controller on the panel. I think, that it should be there. A lot of people uses it in everyday's life. 2) as for battery monitor on the panel: it should be visible by default. This empty space looks really strange. 3) there is still pcmanfm 0.5.2, not pcmanfm2( 4) you have included osmo as a default program. My friends and me haven't heard about this program before. And in everyday life may be it is not so necessary to be included, I think. 5) without installing packages xscreensaver-gl, xscreensaver-gl-extra, xscreensaver-data-extra I see a lot of error messages telling me that there is no directory /usr/share/backgrounds. It is annoying. 6) when I launch lxterminal, appeared the window without any string like this: ubu...@ubuntu:~/. But when you hit any key on the keyboard it appears unexpectably. 7) some buttons such as OK, Cancel just don't work (only hitting Close Window helped me to close the windows). It is so when you are configuring panel for example. 8) you have used LXDM as a login manager. It is perfect, but it has serious problems: - when I enable autologin on it, I just can't switch my keyboard layout by hitting on the applet on the panel. Only typing sudo lxpanelctl restart helped me. - there is no gui-program to configure LXDM yet. For a lot of people it will be hard to understand what do if they want enable autologin or so on. - using LXDM I can't modify PATH variable (even modifying file /etc/profile), so I can't play any games using menu (Menu-Games-...). It won't work. 9) sound card by default doesn't work. So, I have gone to alsa-project.org, downloaded the latest driver, lib and utils, installed it. Run sudo alsaconf and after reboot I heart the sound. 10) I've got ati radeon 4670 video, but when I tried to install xorg-driver-fglrx, it tells me that he wants to remove xorg with all its dependencies. Strange behaviour. So, I have only poor 3D now( 11) I've tried to install fskbsetting. But when launching it gives me segmentation fault. I don't know why. 12) May be there should be some games, at least some gnome-games? So, this is my first experience. Regards, Michael. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows, as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago, that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there are relatively few of them 2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be for old computers in the first place, not netbooks... 12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :) 2010/2/17 Mike Nokel mno...@gmail.com: Hi. I have found some time to install it on my computer. In general, everything looks and works perfectly. However, there are some problems: 1) by default, there is no keyboard layout controller on the panel. I think, that it should be there. A lot of people uses it in everyday's life. 2) as for battery monitor on the panel: it should be visible by default. This empty space looks really strange. 3) there is still pcmanfm 0.5.2, not pcmanfm2( 4) you have included osmo as a default program. My friends and me haven't heard about this program before. And in everyday life may be it is not so necessary to be included, I think. 5) without installing packages xscreensaver-gl, xscreensaver-gl-extra, xscreensaver-data-extra I see a lot of error messages telling me that there is no directory /usr/share/backgrounds. It is annoying. 6) when I launch lxterminal, appeared the window without any string like this: ubu...@ubuntu:~/. But when you hit any key on the keyboard it appears unexpectably. 7) some buttons such as OK, Cancel just don't work (only hitting Close Window helped me to close the windows). It is so when you are configuring panel for example. 8) you have used LXDM as a login manager. It is perfect, but it has serious problems: - when I enable autologin on it, I just can't switch my keyboard layout by hitting on the applet on the panel. Only typing sudo lxpanelctl restart helped me. - there is no gui-program to configure LXDM yet. For a lot of people it will be hard to understand what do if they want enable autologin or so on. - using LXDM I can't modify PATH variable (even modifying file /etc/profile), so I can't play any games using menu (Menu-Games-...). It won't work. 9) sound card by default doesn't work. So, I have gone to alsa-project.org, downloaded the latest driver, lib and utils, installed it. Run sudo alsaconf and after reboot I heart the sound. 10) I've got ati radeon 4670 video, but when I tried to install xorg-driver-fglrx, it tells me that he wants to remove xorg with all its dependencies. Strange behaviour. So, I have only poor 3D now( 11) I've tried to install fskbsetting. But when launching it gives me segmentation fault. I don't know why. 12) May be there should be some games, at least some gnome-games? So, this is my first experience. Regards, Michael. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
Hello again Its working very nice..and for the nm-applet much better that wicd. I ditch the chromium browser because its no my flavor in my opinion. I have only one small problem with my wireless broadband. I use huawei e220. its Doesn't detected in nm-applet but in lsusb it is detected. In the first alpha stage it was working with NM-applet with the latest kernel upgrade. Tonight I will try again using PPP or wvdial. Somebody talk about games.. where is the tread?? :-D I really need 2 games that is really working on my netbook :-D Gdebi installer would be nice or something like that in Lubuntu?? And does Gdebi really help for people that has no internet. Because in Indonesia not everybody can affort internet connection. And even if they have it,it will be cellphone using as modems. It would be nice if there is something like that for updating packages or what-ever to install/update without internet in deb packages. thanks Josef A. Beroeatwarin... Mike Nokel wrote: 2010/2/17 Sylkis syl...@gmail.com mailto:syl...@gmail.com 1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows, as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago, that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there are relatively few of them 2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be for old computers in the first place, not netbooks... 12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :) 1) ok. It was only my opinion. 2) I understand. May be then remove it from panel? Empty space isn't good idea, I think. 12) Oh, I see. Thank you. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:13:19 -, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features. Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable, see warnings for Lucid Alpha : Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs. Changes seen the Alpha 2 : * Main changes in the seed : - chromium for the browser - gnome-mplayer for the videos - network-manager for the network * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like it :) * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter login ubuntu without password. Known bugs: * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2 * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when you click on Try Lubuntu Just wait, it will continue as normal. * Bug reported during testing : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso Regards, Julien Lavergne Currently booting, will let you know in 3-4 hours whether a fresh install is a success or not. -- Steve ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
This is shaping up very very well. On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:13:19 -, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features. Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable, see warnings for Lucid Alpha : Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs. Changes seen the Alpha 2 : * Main changes in the seed : - chromium for the browser - gnome-mplayer for the videos - network-manager for the network * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like it :) * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter login ubuntu without password. Known bugs: * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2 * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when you click on Try Lubuntu Just wait, it will continue as normal. * Bug reported during testing : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.isohttp://people.ubuntu.com/%7Egilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso Regards, Julien Lavergne Currently booting, will let you know in 3-4 hours whether a fresh install is a success or not. -- Steve ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:46:11 -, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:13:19 -, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features. Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable, see warnings for Lucid Alpha : Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs. Changes seen the Alpha 2 : * Main changes in the seed : - chromium for the browser - gnome-mplayer for the videos - network-manager for the network * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like it :) * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter login ubuntu without password. Known bugs: * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2 * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when you click on Try Lubuntu Just wait, it will continue as normal. * Bug reported during testing : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso Regards, Julien Lavergne Currently booting, will let you know in 3-4 hours whether a fresh install is a success or not. I’m impressed so far 1hr 45 mins to install. Beats the old alpha2 at 3-4 hours. -- Steve ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
Hi! It's great! Nice artwork! Respect for including such applications as hardware drivers, printing, languages by default. It now looks very user-friendly. However, there are some minor problems: 1) a lot of errors when changing screensavers. It can be solved by creating directory /usr/share/backgrounds by default. 2) as was discussed earlier when clicking Desktop Session Settings the tab Desktop should be opened, not Interface. 3) why have you choosen xfburn to include? I think that the most popular area for installing LXDE (and of course Lubuntu) are netbooks and they just don't have any CD/DVD-ROMs... In my opinion, it is unnecessary. I have tested on my netbook HP 1233 - everything is working perfectly, and using by default 110 Mb out of 1Gb is impressive (with Ubuntu 9.10 mini.iso + LXDE it uses after startup nearly 155 Mb). However, if there is xsplash I haven't seen it, may be because of my videocard (Via Chrome9), I don't know. I have also tried to run livecd on my notebook Asus M51TR. However, all that I have seen was Lubuntu logo for approximately 1 minute after what there came a kernel panic. I'll try to find solution but exactly now I don't know why it is happening so. In conclusion, I would like to say that it looks perfect and amazing. Thank you! Regards, Michael. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
Ok, i built up an old System with Pentium (i don't know if II or IV, 360 MHz) and 128 MBytes of RAM. It Takes very Long to boot and it First seems like the pc wouldnt respond any more, but about 10 minutes with Black screen you can see the panel and the Cursor- no Desktop and no icons there. I didnt realize the arrow-Symbol to be the One for network, maybe we should use another one. The System itself is extremely slow, but thats the hardware (im just used to my 4gb RAM:-)) maybe we could use something else for the graphics , like kolourpaint or so. The People we aim at are used to ms paint, and what we offer them in lubuntu is too complicated. Ill go on in testing and ill write again later. Have a nice time, Jo Am 15.02.2010 um 19:14 schrieb Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de: On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:18:05 + Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com wrote: Did a quick download and run in a VBOX this AM. Te first thing I noticed is the same stratup bar as fedora??? Whats with that? you know what everyone will say! It is simply plymouth (yeah Fedora invented it and Ubuntu is now using it too). Seeing only the blue bar is a indicator that your graphicscard is not supported well enough. In the final version nvidia (thx to nouveau) ati (open ati driver) and intel will show a nice splash screen. Other than that, I like it, running it in a VBOX with 384 RAM, everything seems snappy. Will do further testing and post any bugs I find later. Thanks Julien. Glen On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features. Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable, see warnings for Lucid Alpha : Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs. Changes seen the Alpha 2 : * Main changes in the seed : - chromium for the browser - gnome-mplayer for the videos - network-manager for the network * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like it :) * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter login ubuntu without password. Known bugs: * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2 * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when you click on Try Lubuntu Just wait, it will continue as normal. * Bug reported during testing : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu- lucid-20100215.iso Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:10:47 -, Jo Gerb jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok, i built up an old System with Pentium (i don't know if II or IV, 360 MHz) and 128 MBytes of RAM. It Takes very Long to boot and it First seems like the pc wouldnt respond any more, but about 10 minutes with Black screen you can see the panel and the Cursor- no Desktop and no icons there. I didnt realize the arrow-Symbol to be the One for network, maybe we should use another one. The System itself is extremely slow, but thats the hardware (im just used to my 4gb RAM:-)) maybe we could use something else for the graphics , like kolourpaint or so. The People we aim at are used to ms paint, and what we offer them in lubuntu is too complicated. Ill go on in testing and ill write again later. Have a nice time, Jo That’s a similar rig to the one I’m using to test on. It’s more than likely a PII CPU at that speed, by the way. Have you tested sound yet, I had to install a driver as on mine. Interesting running with minimal resources isn’t it. :) Have fun! -- Steve ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:10:47 -, Jo Gerb jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok, i built up an old System with Pentium (i don't know if II or IV, 360 MHz) and 128 MBytes of RAM. It Takes very Long to boot and it First seems like the pc wouldnt respond any more, but about 10 minutes with Black screen you can see the panel and the Cursor- no Desktop and no icons there. I didnt realize the arrow-Symbol to be the One for network, maybe we should use another one. The System itself is extremely slow, but thats the hardware (im just used to my 4gb RAM:-)) maybe we could use something else for the graphics , like kolourpaint or so. The People we aim at are used to ms paint, and what we offer them in lubuntu is too complicated. Ill go on in testing and ill write again later. Have a nice time, Jo If you run hardinfo it will tell you what CPU you have along with other useful (and not so useful) information. System Tools System Profiler and Benchmark It might be interesting to compare the benchmarks from that program. -- Steve ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
VBOX installed in a virtual machine, see grub loading and then a _ Thats it...anyone have any insight into this? Live CD works fine. Thanks Glen On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features. Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable, see warnings for Lucid Alpha : Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs. Changes seen the Alpha 2 : * Main changes in the seed : - chromium for the browser - gnome-mplayer for the videos - network-manager for the network * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like it :) * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter login ubuntu without password. Known bugs: * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2 * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when you click on Try Lubuntu Just wait, it will continue as normal. * Bug reported during testing : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
Here is a quick report on the current cut on an older laptop. HP Omnibook 910 PIII 500 MHz 320 MB Memory with 3Com 3CCFEM556B 10/100 PC Card and SMC 2835W wireless card Lubuntu seems to boot fine, a little slow, but it looks nice on the old LCD. Eraser head style mouse seems to work fine. However, I could not seem to find a way to configure the wireless card. That is when I checked, and the distro is not detecting either of the two PC cards in the system. So no report on browser speed. The system did not automatically mount a flash drive. I was able to mount manually. Sound does work; I was able to play an ogg file via mplayer off of the flash drive. Hope this helps. Dwain ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
VERY nice! Looks (and feels) more and more professional. It's shaping up nicely. Congrats. Zoltan On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features. Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable, see warnings for Lucid Alpha : Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs. Changes seen the Alpha 2 : * Main changes in the seed : - chromium for the browser - gnome-mplayer for the videos - network-manager for the network * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like it :) * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter login ubuntu without password. Known bugs: * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2 * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when you click on Try Lubuntu Just wait, it will continue as normal. * Bug reported during testing : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.isohttp://people.ubuntu.com/%7Egilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:50:02 -, jeroen merks jeroen_c...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello guys, Im new at Lubuntu and mailinglists, but not for Ubuntu and Linux.Im following the mails for some time now...I joined you guys because I have very old laptop that is almost the same like discribed below and Xubuntu was a bit too slow for me.I experience the same things as discribed below.Very slow boot (usb1) and many graphical glitches when booting.After like 20 minutes I tried to install it but the shortcut didnt respond.Not really a surprize but I think it isnt the way it meant to be. If you guys have any questions I could test with my laptop please ask them.Just like sound and stuff...Im not sure this is the way to use a mailing list, but you guys look to be very nice. Keep up the good work ! Did you manage to get Lubuntu installed? Did you use this version (the latest) http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso -- Steve ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
Thanks for the report. Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 18:54 +0300, Mike Nokel a écrit : However, there are some minor problems: 1) a lot of errors when changing screensavers. It can be solved by creating directory /usr/share/backgrounds by default. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/129769 2) as was discussed earlier when clicking Desktop Session Settings the tab Desktop should be opened, not Interface. It's part of the pcmanfm2 integration, should be fixed at this point. 3) why have you choosen xfburn to include? I think that the most popular area for installing LXDE (and of course Lubuntu) are netbooks and they just don't have any CD/DVD-ROMs... In my opinion, it is unnecessary. There is also old hardware with old CD burner. It's pretty common to have a CD/DVD burner by default :) I have tested on my netbook HP 1233 - everything is working perfectly, and using by default 110 Mb out of 1Gb is impressive (with Ubuntu 9.10 mini.iso + LXDE it uses after startup nearly 155 Mb). However, if there is xsplash I haven't seen it, may be because of my videocard (Via Chrome9), I don't know. It's now plymouth which is used. It required kernel mode-settings, available for ATI, Intel and for Nvidia via the nouveau driver. If it's not available, you should fallback to a blue progress bar. I have also tried to run livecd on my notebook Asus M51TR. However, all that I have seen was Lubuntu logo for approximately 1 minute after what there came a kernel panic. I'll try to find solution but exactly now I don't know why it is happening so. That will be interesting to test with a Ubuntu daily build, to see if it's not a general problem for Lucid. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 19:14 +0100, Leszek Lesner a écrit : On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:18:05 + Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com wrote: Did a quick download and run in a VBOX this AM. Te first thing I noticed is the same stratup bar as fedora??? Whats with that? you know what everyone will say! It is simply plymouth (yeah Fedora invented it and Ubuntu is now using it too). Seeing only the blue bar is a indicator that your graphicscard is not supported well enough. In the final version nvidia (thx to nouveau) ati (open ati driver) and intel will show a nice splash screen. It's also the case for any Vbox users, because if I understand right, Vbox driver is not KMS capable inside the guest. You can test the plymouth theme only on a real system. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 12:20 +, Glen Bizeau a écrit : One more thing... The connected ICON for Network Manager is two arrows, one up the other down, which persdonally to me does not indicate a network connection. Can we change this back to the default one of two computers? it doesn't even look like a network manager this way, or at least even the ubuntu one where it looks like two sockets plugged in... You should file a bug against elementary icons (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/elementaryicons), maybe they have a good reason to do it that way. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
Hi, I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features. Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable, see warnings for Lucid Alpha : Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs. Changes seen the Alpha 2 : * Main changes in the seed : - chromium for the browser - gnome-mplayer for the videos - network-manager for the network * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like it :) * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter login ubuntu without password. Known bugs: * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2 * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when you click on Try Lubuntu Just wait, it will continue as normal. * Bug reported during testing : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
