Re: [LUG] Why are internet rates exorbitantly more expensive in Uganda than in Kenya

2017-03-16 Thread Joe Willrich Lutalo
On 16-Mar-17 3:18 PM, Angello Obel wrote: We can't just claim the problem is policy. If the problem is policy and regulation? What policy and regulations are missing? If we cannot figure out what policy is bad or what policy should be implemented or changed then how do we expect our non

Re: [LUG] Why are internet rates exorbitantly more expensive in Uganda than in Kenya

2017-03-16 Thread Mark Tinka
The telecommunications landscape in Uganda needs much better policy (reform). In Africa, the more inland you are, the higher your cost of Internet access. It is not an excuse, but regulation and policy reform are the ways to fix that. I think this is an area that is sorely lacking in our country.

Re: [LUG] Why are internet rates exorbitantly more expensive in Uganda than in Kenya

2017-03-16 Thread Joe Willrich Lutalo
And while at it, have you also considered the fact that Uganda's stance in the regional (as well as global) market/econ is so terrible? Look to the trends and stats around our currency and performance of the Economy in general, and you'll notice we'd not be crying, had we a better local

Re: [LUG] Why are internet rates exorbitantly more expensive in Uganda than in Kenya

2017-03-16 Thread Mark Tinka
Of course, the overall socio-economic position of Uganda has an impact on the performance of various sections of the market, telecommunications being one of them. The reason Rwanda is - I think - doing better than Uganda from an ICT perspective (despite being a smaller country) is due to policy,

Re: [LUG] Why are internet rates exorbitantly more expensive in Uganda than in Kenya

2017-03-16 Thread Mark Tinka
Service providers will "respond" to the operating climate, and run their business accordingly. Regulation, legislation, competition, addressable market, infrastructure, buying power, e.t.c., will all play a part in not only the price seen by the end-user, but the quality of service they receive.

Re: [LUG] Why are internet rates exorbitantly more expensive in Uganda than in Kenya

2017-03-16 Thread Mark Tinka
I've been away from Uganda for a bit, but wasn't our Minister of ICT someone from our community? I know Badru (Ntege) and others have always had the President's ear via a technical roundtable. I'm not aware of the current state of that vehicle, but certainly, it appears that the community needs

Re: [LUG] Why are internet rates exorbitantly more expensive in Uganda than in Kenya

2017-03-16 Thread Joe Willrich Lutalo
Nice. It's a mixture of political and economic problems. Now the debate... *Qstn*: What can you, as a technocrat do about it? Whenever problems of this sort are presented, it would be beneficial (to the collective - or even our communities), to likewise propose some potential solutions;

Re: [LUG] Why are internet rates exorbitantly more expensive in Uganda than in Kenya

2017-03-16 Thread Kizito Thomas
My contribution: Before we consider the price of internet in Uganda as compared to other neighboring countries, lets consider the cost of delivering internet in Uganda as compared to our neighboring countries. 1) How much is the cost of fuel in Uganda compared to Kenya, Mauritius? 2) What is the

Re: [LUG] Why are internet rates exorbitantly more expensive in Uganda than in Kenya

2017-03-16 Thread Angello Obel
We can't just claim the problem is policy. If the problem is policy and regulation? What policy and regulations are missing? If we cannot figure out what policy is bad or what policy should be implemented or changed then how do we expect our non technical gov't to do otherwise. If the problem is

[LUG] Fwd: [af-ix] Save the date: AfPIF-2017 from 22 – 24 August 2017 in Abidjan, Côte d’Ivoire

2017-03-16 Thread Kyle Spencer
Hi everyone, See below announcement about AfPIF 2017. It will be held from 22 – 24 August 2017 in Abidjan, Côte d’Ivoire! Regards, Kyle Spencer -- Forwarded message -- From: Michuki Mwangi Date: 2017-03-16 13:34 GMT+03:00 Subject: [af-ix] Save the date:

Re: [LUG] Why are internet rates exorbitantly more expensive in Uganda than in Kenya

2017-03-16 Thread Mark Tinka
p On 16/Mar/17 11:07, Joe Willrich Lutalo wrote: > > Thanks for contributing to the debate positively, but I would not > advise us to steer the ship in that direction - leadership for the > sake of serving corporations. That's the ill eating at such giants as > the US. You can be loyal to your

Re: [LUG] Why are internet rates exorbitantly more expensive in Uganda than in Kenya

2017-03-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 16/Mar/17 12:01, David Okwii wrote: > Thanks for the debate, > > So what I gather so far is that this isn't just about numbers or being > land-locked country. This is about regulation/policy on telecoms in > Uganda. >From my perspective, I'd say yes. Fix the laws of the land (and the

Re: [LUG] Why are internet rates exorbitantly more expensive in Uganda than in Kenya

2017-03-16 Thread David Okwii
Thanks for the debate, So what I gather so far is that this isn't just about numbers or being land-locked country. This is about regulation/policy on telecoms in Uganda. On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Joe Willrich Lutalo wrote: > > On 16-Mar-17 11:55 AM, Mark Tinka