[LUTE] Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread r . turovsky
So, Respighi was exposed to Chilesotti through Segovia's efforts? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2013, at 9:20 PM, terli...@aol.com wrote: As far as his influence on the lute: I heard Paul O'dette say that it was the Six Lute Pieces from the Renaissance based on Chilesotti (and made famous

[LUTE] Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread Mark Delpriora
No , but Paul Odette was. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 16, 2013, at 5:01 AM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: So, Respighi was exposed to Chilesotti through Segovia's efforts? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2013, at 9:20 PM, terli...@aol.com wrote: As far as his influence on the lute: I

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-16 Thread gary
Segovia's collection of Sor has value as a pedagogical tool regardless of its source. Re: Segovia's name is larger than Sor's on the book. It occurred to me that this may have been at the suggestion of the publisher. Segovia was probably more well known than Sor at the time so his name would

[LUTE] Re: Segovia whatever

2013-12-16 Thread gary
How did such an incompetent slouch ever manage to have the likes of Julian Bream and John Williams singing his praises and traveling half way around the world to sit at his arrogant feet? Gary On 2013-12-15 10:31, howard posner wrote: On Dec 15, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Tobiah t...@tobiah.org

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
Your paragraph implies that Chilesotti was made famous by Segivia, and not by Respighi. RT sent from my payPhone On 12/16/2013 6:24 AM, Mark Delpriora wrote: No , but Paul Odette was. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 16, 2013, at 5:01 AM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: So, Respighi was exposed to

[LUTE] Re: Segovia whatever

2013-12-16 Thread Roman Turovsky
That happens often enough. I have recently attended a Hoppy concert in NYC that showed no evidence of lutenistic notability. I've heard him twice before and those times his playing was a lot worse. In yet one more instance at the Metropolitan Museum he was accompanying Andrea von Ramm, and

[LUTE] Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread terlizzi
I think it was clear that I was referring to the very standard intermediate level suite for guitar Six Lute Pieces from the Renaissance . All literate guitarists know this work. -Original Message--From: r.turovsky r.turov...@gmail.com To: Mark Delpriora terli...@aol.com Cc:

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread Christopher Wilke
Actually, Paul told me that his idol as a young player was Eric Clapton and he was thrilled to have finally met him at the Grammys a few years ago. Maybe Paul was also inspired by Segovia, but I don't recall him ever mentioning him. Chris Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A. Lutenist, Guitarist and

[LUTE] Re: Segovia whatever

2013-12-16 Thread David van Ooijen
I once had the pleasure of giving a concert with Andrea von Ramm. The programme included anything from Nibelungen Lied to Everly Brothers, but nothing lutenistic notable. Never had so much fun on stage before, or after; she was a great musician as well as hilariously funny. David

[LUTE] [LUTE] Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread terlizzi
I hired Paul to conduct a masterclass at the Manhattan School of Music. A student played the Six Pieces for Lute from the Renaissance for him. These pieces were standard works for a time and Segovia often started his concerts with these pieces. He made them famous because he performed them

[LUTE] Incompetence, was: Re: Segovia whatever

2013-12-16 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
That very well may have been the case. But that fateful day at the Met I felt an uncontrollable compulsion to leave, but was stymied in that by sitting in the 2nd row. Therefore that hour felt like 2. Pat O'B left during the applause, saying that he can't bear having to say

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.)

2013-12-16 Thread Chris Barker
I think that possibly more people heard more of Segovia's recordings of Six Lute Pieces of the Renaissance than heard Respighi's Ancient Dances and Aires for Lute. Chris -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.)

2013-12-16 Thread Geoff Gaherty
On 16/12/13 9:38 AM, Chris Barker wrote: I think that possibly more people heard more of Segovia's recordings of Six Lute Pieces of the Renaissance than heard Respighi's Ancient Dances and Aires for Lute. That's extremely doubtful. I've attended orchestral concerts by major symphony

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.)

2013-12-16 Thread Edward Chrysogonus Yong
doubt it. i have four recordings of the Respighi, but didn't even know of the existence of 'Six Lute Pieces' till this thead, much less Segovia's recording. but then i have no CG background whatsoever... τούτο ηλεκτρονικόν ταχυδρομείον εκ είΦωνου εμεύ επέμφθη. Hæ litteræ electronicæ

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.)

2013-12-16 Thread Sean Smith
The Respighi was pretty popular among the easy listening/classical crowd in the 70's; eg., restaurant rotation. My dad had it on 8-track. He also had some Segovia records but we weren't allowed to touch those. Sean On Dec 16, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Chris Barker wrote: I think that possibly

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.)

2013-12-16 Thread Sean Smith
But, in an odd bit of relevance, the Respighi 8-track had a lovely theorbo-ized vondervogel lute (single strung) on the label. My 12-year- old self thought that was pretty cool and may have even helped propel me lute-wards. Imagine my surprise to see the current herd of giraffe- lutes

[LUTE] Re: Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread William Brohinsky
Chris Wilke wrote, in a response to an increasingly unfocused string of comments on Segovia's influence on Lutes: | Actually, Paul told me that his idol as a young player was Eric Clapton and he was thrilled to have finally met him at the Grammys | a few years ago. Maybe Paul was

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread William Samson
A recent programme blurb for a Nigel North concert says that he was first inspired by Hank B. Marvin of The Shadows (Cliff Richard's backing group). Being a little older, it was Elvis who first got me thinking I should have a guitar. Bill From: Christopher Wilke

[LUTE] [LUTE] Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread cyndiric
I was taking voice lessons and the voice teacher recommended that I learn pian so I could accompany myself and learn new pieces. I decided guitar was better, because it was more portable. -Original Message- From: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk To: Christopher Wilke

[LUTE] Re: Re: Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread Dan Winheld
Well, the SIx Lute Pieces... got me- a young classical guitar student- somewhat interested in lute music, but it was Karl Scheidt's guitar arrangements of some of Dowland's lute solos and songs; at about the same time I first heard Julian Bream, that got me interested in the LUTE. That was

[LUTE] Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…) and now what?

2013-12-16 Thread Sean Smith
What? No love for Frederick Noad's, The Renaissance Guitar? That's where I found my first breath of fresh airs. Guess I'm a dated 70's man. Ain't got time for disco, babe, gotta make Holborne fit on my geetar. Then I saw Roger Harmon play his Zanetti at the local 17th century music hall

[LUTE] Inspirations...

2013-12-16 Thread Allan Alexander
Hi Gang When I was 4 years old, I saw a cowby holding a guitar on some show which was a western, he was the host. Next it was the Ventures and Ricky Nelson's guitarist Then Chet Atkins Then a Segovia recocording Then it was Bream with Lute Music of the Royal Courts whicih just made me want

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…) and now what?

2013-12-16 Thread Tobiah
On 12/16/2013 08:55 AM, Sean Smith wrote: What? No love for Frederick Noad's, The Renaissance Guitar? That book and others put me off of the Renaissance because I found that most of the pieces, though simple enough looking, were full of awkward fingerings that took more effort to master then

[LUTE] Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…) and now what?

2013-12-16 Thread Sean Smith
Whoa, Parallel universe! It got me wondering at the time what the magic rule was for where the third should be. Later, when I got an actual renaissance guitar and saw the x begets y begets z timeline it made sense what happened. Sean On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Tobiah wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Segovia education...

2013-12-16 Thread Alain Veylit
Granted: Segovia was a grumpy old teacher who could no longer play effectively in his 90's. However, he did achieve a number of things that might deserve some praise and even passing admiration: --He not only contributed to the revival of the classical guitar, but he evolved his own technique

[LUTE] Re: Re: Re: Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread Edward Mast
Well, everyone seems to be mentioning his/her initial lute inspiration. For me, it was Joseph Iadone - he was my older brother's bass teacher at Hartt School of Music. After hearing Joe play, I had little interest in Julian Bream as a lutenist. Ned To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread howard posner
On Dec 16, 2013, at 7:51 AM, William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: A recent programme blurb for a Nigel North concert says that he was first inspired by Hank B. Marvin of The Shadows (Cliff Richard's backing group). Not just at first. About 20 years ago, when I gave Nigel a ride

[LUTE] Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.)

2013-12-16 Thread Monica Hall
A fellow spirit. My inspiration was hearing Graciano and Renata Tarrago playing music for vihuela and baroque guitar on the radio - in 1954 before most of you gentlemen were born. I was learning the violin and the recorder at the time but was determined to switch to the vihuela as soon as I

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread Bruno Correia
Funny, if I'm not mistaken, O'Dette said in interview that he was deeply inspired by Julian Bream's lute performances (records?). This seems more logical: Dowland played on a lute shaped instrument. 2013/12/16 [1]terli...@aol.com As far as his influence on the lute: I heard Paul

[LUTE] Segovia and masterclass

2013-12-16 Thread Bruno Correia
The respect of the master towards the scholar will cause respect from the scholar to the master. A master should not be too old nor too young. The young one is foolish and hath little experience; the old one is peevish, distasteful, knows not or slights the new manner of playing

[LUTE] Re: More Segovia stuff

2013-12-16 Thread howard posner
I meant, of course, that Segovia played bigger venues... On Dec 16, 2013, at 3:29 PM, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: Llobet was a Tarrega student and played with nails, according to Segovia, who didn't care for his tone. And according to Segovia, he played bigger venues

[LUTE] Re: Inspirations...

2013-12-16 Thread Edward C. Yong
Hi all, My first hearing of the lute was on a Harmonia Mundi sampler cd back in 1990. I was thirteen, and the track was 'Go Merely Wheele' by John Johnson, played by Paul O'Dette Lyle Nordstrom. I then acquired 'English Lute Duets' (Jakob Lindberg Paul O'Dette) and 'Virtuoso Lute Music From

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…)

2013-12-16 Thread gary
For me it was Barney Kessell, Jim Hall, Charlie Byrd, Segovia and Julian Bream. Gary On 2013-12-16 07:51, William Samson wrote: A recent programme blurb for a Nigel North concert says that he was first inspired by Hank B. Marvin of The Shadows (Cliff Richard's backing group). Being