[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-17 Thread Stephan Olbertz
I heard he made himself ten years younger early in his career, so it must have been impressive for a man in his nineties or even older... Am 16.12.2013, 22:27 Uhr, schrieb Paul Overell p...@bayleaf.org.uk: In message 57-52ae0970.3010...@tobiah.org, Tobiah t...@tobiah.org writes On 12/15/2013

[LUTE] Re: Segovia education...

2013-12-17 Thread gary
All this criticiem of Segovia continuing to perform into his golden years reminds me of Wynton Marsalis' reply to criticisms of Louis Armstrong for continuing to perform into his 70s even though his range and technical abilities had diminished, Nuance is the epitome of technic. Regarding

[LUTE] Re: Segovia whatever

2013-12-17 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Dec 16, 2013, at 4:28 AM, G. Crona kalei...@gmail.com wrote: Segovia at los Olivos from 1967, when he was 75 years old, the other The song of the guitar filmed in beautiful Granada, in 1976, when he was 84, according to the liner notes. Of course you can hear that age had taken it's toll,

[LUTE] POEM 9

2013-12-17 Thread Gilbert Isbin
TONE POEMS is a suite of short improvisations by Christian Vasseur (liuto forte) and Gilbert Isbin (renaissance lute) Photo still by Didier Eeckhout [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVJPBGP8xvo Gilbert Isbin [2]What's new -- References 1.

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-17 Thread Ed Durbrow
Jeez, that kid deserved a medal for courage under fire! He also still appeared to be brainwashed. Poor talented kid. Probably a venerated master by now. On Dec 14, 2013, at 8:53 PM, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: This is referred to often:

[LUTE] Re: Segovia whatever

2013-12-17 Thread G. Crona
Great Ed! So a few of us here were actually floored! I further noticed that both those documentaries are also available on youtube. On the actual DVD there are some photos as extras. A.o. some drawings of a young Andres. There could be no doubt about where Disney found his inspiration for

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…) and now what?

2013-12-17 Thread Ed Durbrow
Yeah, but he had good taste in music. I had three of his books. On Dec 17, 2013, at 2:19 AM, Tobiah t...@tobiah.org wrote: On 12/16/2013 08:55 AM, Sean Smith wrote: What? No love for Frederick Noad's, The Renaissance Guitar? That book and others put me off of the Renaissance because I found

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…) and now what?

2013-12-17 Thread guitarandlute
Yeah, but he had good taste in music. I had three of his books. Absolutely. It was a real intro into some good Renaissance music at the time. Allan On Dec 17, 2013, at 2:19 AM, Tobiah t...@tobiah.org wrote: On 12/16/2013 08:55 AM, Sean Smith wrote: What? No love for Frederick Noad's, The

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.) and now what?

2013-12-17 Thread G. Crona
And not only had he good taste in music, but he also gave a lot of information and valuable advice on the execution of the pieces, a great number of which are probably the most played on the lute today among the intermediate crowd. He in fact also recommends tuning 3rd down to F# on several of

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.) and now what?

2013-12-17 Thread Geoff Gaherty
On 17/12/13 8:44 AM, G. Crona wrote: And not only had he good taste in music, but he also gave a lot of information and valuable advice on the execution of the pieces, a great number of which are probably the most played on the lute today among the intermediate crowd. He in fact also recommends

[LUTE] Chilesotti

2013-12-17 Thread William Samson
Does anyone know if the Chilesotti pieces has been published in lute tablature? Bill [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -- References 1. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection.) and now what?

2013-12-17 Thread G. Crona
There is surprisingly an error on that table of contents, in that one of the best pieces is missing! John Dowland: Lady Hunsdon's Alman on page 91 - Original Message - From: Geoff Gaherty ge...@gaherty.ca To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:07 PM

[LUTE] Re: Chilesotti?

2013-12-17 Thread Alain Veylit
Thomas Schall kindly provided his own intabulations of the Chilesotti pieces in three PDF volumes -- See: * [1]http://lute.musickshandmade.com/collections/view/105 * [2]http://lute.musickshandmade.com/collections/view/104 *

[LUTE] Re: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…) and now what?

2013-12-17 Thread Roland Hayes
The tablature illustrations in Noad's books gave me the idea of playing from tablature sources. Since then my career started slowly, then tapered off. r -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Durbrow Sent: Tuesday, December

[LUTE] Fwd: Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…) and now what?

2013-12-17 Thread wayne cripps
Frederick Noad was on this lute list back in the mid '90s Wayne Begin forwarded message: From: Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com Subject: [LUTE] Segovia and Pujol (was Bream Collection…) and now what? Date: December 16, 2013 at 11:55:41 AM EST To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu What? No love

[LUTE] Re: Chilesotti?

2013-12-17 Thread Thomas Schall
It's 9 PDF files: http://lautenist.de/chilesotti1.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti2.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti3.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti4.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti5.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti6.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti7.pdf

[LUTE] Re: Chilesotti?

2013-12-17 Thread Arthur Ness
You're thinking about _*Da un Codice Lauten-Buch*_ which has 99 pieces. It's a commmonplace book assembled by a Nuerenberg merchant. It has tablature and writings (jokes, saying, poems, etc.). Tablatue edition buy Dick Hoban. Lyre Music Press. This is _*Lauutenspieler*_. It

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-17 Thread Braig, Eugene
. . . Not to mention a huge body of dedicated baroque- and romantic-era repertoire for guitar that was forgotten for generations because Segovia didn't like it and instead opted to create a body of repertoire through transcription. I don't think Segovia can be blamed for his tremendous

[LUTE] Re: Chilesotti?

2013-12-17 Thread Stephen Fryer
On 17/12/2013 10:02 AM, Thomas Schall wrote: It's 9 PDF files: http://lautenist.de/chilesotti1.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti2.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti3.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti4.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti5.pdf http://lautenist.de/chilesotti6.pdf

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-17 Thread Braig, Eugene
Chapdelain was the first-ever winner of the Guitar Foundation of America competition, but now specializes in fingerstyle arrangements of pop music on steel-string guitar: http://www.michaelchapdelaine.com/. He's now fond of taking the stage as a barefoot bohemian. Discussing the Segovia

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-17 Thread Alain Veylit
I like his video of Barrios' Julia Florida here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xViga3wZK0Efeature=c4-overviewlist=UUz4pWE-2iug9aUF2_PXgaHg - he does not seem to have the stiffness associated with CG playing... He seems to avoid barrés whenever possible -- something I relate to and might

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-17 Thread David Smith
I just listened to some of his arrangements. I really like is interpretation (a romantic on the lute page - what the heck). Thank you for the link. It looks like he moved on nicely from his encounter with Segovia. Many would have been destroyed. David -Original Message- From:

[LUTE] Question on String Tension

2013-12-17 Thread David Smith
I have an 11 course lute where the 11^th course seems to be very sensitive and difficult to get in tune. It is gut. No, I do not want to use copper or silver wrapped strings. So, my question is if there is a relationship between the sensitivity of the frequency (pitch) to the

[LUTE] Re: Question on String Tension

2013-12-17 Thread Miles Dempster
I've thought about this too. Here's another way of stating the same thing (below). I would try and ensure that the octave string is in the same tension range. The slacker the string, the greater will be proportionate change in tension when you press the string against a fret. Hence the

[LUTE] Re: Question on String Tension

2013-12-17 Thread Sean Smith
Dear David, I'm kind of slow in the math department but in my experience low tensions strings _are_ more difficult to tune. When you get close to the breaking point - ok, and just a bit shy of almost there - they find that sweet spot rather nicely and you get a fine action around the

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-17 Thread gary
How does one go about preventing the tastes of one person from shaping the tastes of an art? Van Gogh couldn't sell a painting to save his life during his own time because of the prevailing taste of his era. Popularity is a factor in determining an era's tastes in art. It seems unfair to fault

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-17 Thread gary
The irony is that Michael's turn to steel string guitar and pop/folk music would only have confirmed Segovia in his disdain. Gary On 2013-12-17 13:26, Braig, Eugene wrote: Chapdelain was the first-ever winner of the Guitar Foundation of America competition, but now specializes in fingerstyle

[LUTE] Mille Regretz?

2013-12-17 Thread theoj89294
Does anyone have a source of a lute in tabulation of Mille Regretz by Josquin des Pres? Seems like I remember one, but cannot locate it. Cheers, trj -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Mille Regretz?

2013-12-17 Thread howard posner
On Dec 17, 2013, at 7:45 PM, theoj89...@aol.com wrote: Does anyone have a source of a lute in tabulation of Mille Regretz by Josquin des Pres? Seems like I remember one, but cannot locate it. Cheers, Narvaez' Cancion del Emperador is a setting of Mille Regretz. -- To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: Mille Regretz?

2013-12-17 Thread Sean Smith
Dear trj, There's one in Pierre Phalese 1545 (Iirc, it's set by Hans Gerle although like most other Phalese, attributions are lacking) http://digirep.rhul.ac.uk/items/c311b9e8-4eec-3f28-f07c-4338ada80023/1/ There's another anonymous setting in Phalese 1552 Hortus Musarum (it appears

[LUTE] Re: Mille Regretz?

2013-12-17 Thread Dan Winheld
Hans Neusidler wrote a superb intab, I don't remember the original source- my copy is in an (English) Lute Society edition of German Renaissance lute music, selected and transcribed into French tab. by Martin Shepherd. Very different from the Narvaez, but just as rewarding. Dan On 12/17/2013