[LUTE] Re: Harp alterations was Re: Mrs White's nothing

2017-01-15 Thread Valery SAUVAGE
Some harps are made with the possibility of playing alterations by puting the finger on the "console" of the harp and reducing the length of the string to play sharp notes. So even on diatonic harps alterations are possible. Look this bray harp player

[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing

2017-01-15 Thread Dan Winheld
Interesting- to (some) modern players- both HIP and non-HIP; by the way- that "well played" has to automatically be synonymous with "fast enough". - And Ralf, thanks for the info concerning falsas, ficta, and the hexachords. I never heard that Mudarra was mocking Ludovico, rather instead that

Re: Re: Mrs White's nothing

2017-01-15 Thread Ralf Mattes
Am Sonntag, 15. Januar 2017 22:37 CET, Mathias Rösel schrieb: > > and he wants to say that the false relations sound fine if played fast > > enough. > > There are no "wrong" notes. Wait, wait! Nowhere does Mudarra mention speed at all. It's an easy to fall in

[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing

2017-01-15 Thread Mathias Rösel
> Has anyone ever done a study of possible wrong notes in ‘Forlorne Hope?” In > Alonso Mudarra’s Fantasia, there is, according to Pujol, a comment: ‘There > are are few false notes but they do not sound bad if played well’. So it may > be an over reach to assume that unusual sounds may have a

[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing

2017-01-15 Thread Rainer
On 15.01.2017 20:19, John Mardinly wrote: Has anyone ever done a study of possible wrong notes in ‘Forlorne Hope?” In Alonso Mudarra’s Fantasia, there is, according to Pujol, a comment: ‘There are are few false notes but they do not sound bad if played well’. So it may be an over reach to

[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing

2017-01-15 Thread John Mardinly
Has anyone ever done a study of possible wrong notes in ‘Forlorne Hope?" In Alonso Mudarra's Fantasia, there is, according to Pujol, a comment: ‘There are are few false notes but they do not sound bad if played well'. So it may be an over reach to assume that unusual sounds may

[LUTE] And Now for Something Completely Different

2017-01-15 Thread Rainer
something slightly off topic... Perhaps English lute netters can help. I have recently read a few novels by Collins: The Moonstone The woman in White Armadale Can anybody recommend other novels by Collins? Best wishes, Rainer PS there is a complete (shudder)

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - A Phantazie

2017-01-15 Thread Christopher Stetson
As others have said, thanks, Ron, for your impressively thorough and informed scholarship from an insider's viewpoint. This would have been unlikely to come from someone not intimately involved with the music. On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 6:05 AM, Ed Durbrow

[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing

2017-01-15 Thread Alain Veylit
I personally disagree with changing the rhythm in that bar. It is perfectly fine to my ear. There is a danger in over-correcting: it can take away the original flavor of the piece. If it can fly, let it fly. If it cannot fly, try to make it fly. In any case, wrong notes should always be

[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing

2017-01-15 Thread Rainer
On 15.01.2017 16:45, Ron Andrico wrote: Rainer, it's simply a difference in the application of an accidental, which most likely is a copyist's error - or a copyist's insipid choice, if he or she was unschooled in the proper horizontal tracking of parts. It's a grave mistake to think of lute

[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing

2017-01-15 Thread Matthew Daillie
Dear Rainer, It doesn't sound awfully wrong to me. Furthermore, if you play just the bass line you will see that the voice moves in exactly the same fashion in bars 5 and 6. Best, Matthew On 15/01/2017 14:00, Rainer wrote: Dear lute netters, please note that the tablature snippets in

[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing

2017-01-15 Thread G. C.
Look at a4 in 5th measure. Much ado about white's nothing :) G On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Christopher Stetson <[1]christophertstet...@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Rainer and all, It appears to me that both examples are identical. Chris. On Sun, Jan 15,

[LUTE] Re: Mrs White's nothing

2017-01-15 Thread Christopher Stetson
Dear Rainer and all, It appears to me that both examples are identical. Chris. On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Rainer <[1]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote: Dear lute netters, please note that the tablature snippets in this mail may look very strange if you do not

[LUTE] Mrs White's nothing

2017-01-15 Thread Rainer
Dear lute netters, please note that the tablature snippets in this mail may look very strange if you do not use a fixed font or - much worse - your mail client wraps after 80 bytes. I am currently playing through the music supplement 100 (English Lute Society) and noticed some thing I had

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - A Phantazie

2017-01-15 Thread Ed Durbrow
Thanks for your long contribution. Good luck! Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- To get on or off this list see list information at