At 01:43 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote:
I love vinyl. Lasts forever, too.
does not, degrades with every play.
Depends on how, and if you play it. Shelf life is longer than CDs,
most CDs start degrading after a few years.
Does USB limit the bandwidth? Dont see any other reason for a
I play from the grand staff in Ness's edition, I first mark any
differences to the tab, then cut and paste them--fewer page turns.
The parts are very nicely realized in the transcription.
dt
At 06:39 PM 11/24/2008, you wrote:
Hi, all,
I just checked, and yes, Mr. Ness's old Francesco edition
That's a good way to go, but playing the record degrades the sound
quality, so if you want to take a snapshot, you can do that digitally.
One could hang out with one's friends instead of taking their photo, too :)
Hey maybe Rob is right. Nope, Rob is right.
Anyway, the slim phono diamond sounds
I find them not only challenging, but they take a while to work into
your fingers. I had to prepare some once on a fairly short schedule,
and the music really requires some getting used to.
There's lots of fine lute duets, so you should work your way up to these.
dt
At 07:10 AM 11/23/2008, you
I love vinyl. Lasts forever, too.
Tips for transfer:
1. Do not transfer vinyl on CD. Repeat, do not put vinyl on CD.
2. Use a real turntable. You can buy them very cheaply on eBay. Do
not use a USB turntable.
3. If you can't deal with the whole tracking force thing, get a P
mount model. Easy to
I think you might also try some of the noisevault impulses with SIR
Budget recording editing options
Cheapest: SamplitudeSE/SIR/noisevault
bit more: Samplitude pro or master (comes with room simulator,
variverb and samples)
You can do all your editing, reverb, MP3s, etc in one program
I bought
As far as the Audacity platform, I'm all for free software, but the
Samplitude platform allows you, if you choose, to gradually upgrade
to professional software.
But you can download the trial version and try both for free.
As far as classical music goes--and early music in particular--there
Fostex FR2 LE is the best, but you need mics.
but you need mics anyway :)
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Of course you can modify it to a four channel machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1vJq13ukrk
And then you can use a good pair of mics and a riibon mic or two.
DT
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Must sleep...z
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I like Davis Taylor, but I prefer David Tayler
What a DIVA!!!
The reverbs on the first run are halo reverbs, they are meant to be
slightly below the threshold of audibility, so that, paradoxically,
they don't sound like reverb.
This is especially true if you don't have the original
The Lexicon 90 or 91 is fine if you want a hardware box.
It isn't worth buying one unless you are producing a lot of CDs,
better to buy the SIR plugin or the cheapest version of Samplitude
that has the room simulator built in.
I'll make up a budget workflow later this week for MP3s, CDs and DVD
Swaying is good, bobbing can be ditracting, but many of the best
players (on many instruments) do it. Sway.
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The Sir plugin is not much different from programs I use that cost
thousands of dollars.
Howver, the registered virsion of SIR, which is not very expensive,
is noticeably better, particularly for things like solo lute or violin.
dt
snip
If you're a reverb addict, try the SIR-plugin. It's
I measured David's system with my measurement microphones, a 32 bit
recorder and a strobe, and the notes were accurate. The best notes
are dead on, the worst a cent or two off, which is normal anyway--if
you hit the string harder they will drift more. I posted the photo on
my web site. More
I liked the Bach, especially because the sound was really open.
dt
At 02:23 AM 11/9/2008, you wrote:
Valery,an average amateur ,should keep his Bach for himself i think.
Showing it publicly is too exhibionistic and pretentious .
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Next up in meantone is the Merula Ciaccona
[1]http://www.vimeo.com/2165748
youtube
[2]http://tinyurl.com/6mler9
The revelation for me is how different the different keys sound, going
just from D major to C major. Major character shift, yet still very
consonant.
dt --
For me the truth is I don't go up to performers after the concert
and tell them where the mistakes were, or give an instant critique :)
Why should video be different? I rejoice in the fact that I learn
something everytime I see or hear another person perform.
dt
At 01:46 PM 11/9/2008, you
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To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 5:02 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Merula Ciaccona
Next up in meantone is the Merula Ciaccona
[1]http://www.vimeo.com/2165748
youtube
[2]http://tinyurl.com/6mler9
The revelation
Everyone should post as many videos as possible
for the historical record. In a few years, maybe
sooner, computers will be powerful enough to fix
all the mistakes as is done routinely on CDs.
Then you will see perfect videos. Right now,
people can look at these videos and see how
people
Awesome!
dt
At 03:43 PM 11/8/2008, you wrote:
Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=cDH6HBeYlR4feature=related
RT
exceptional RH technique, never seen it before.
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It is with a mixture of revulsion and delight that I relate the
enzymes of choice for this task acknowledged by museum curators worldwide:
(drum rolll)
saliva
dt
At 11:46 AM 11/8/2008, you wrote:
Greetings,
The soundboard on my lute is looking very grubby thru much
If someone will send the measurements for the Gerle I'll hook it up
to my measurement microphones and see if it works, I can't see how it
would of could but I'm happy to measure it.
If it plays in tune I can ditch my Tastini :)
If you send measurements please do so in cents so the result will be
Just for fun, we put the lute and the harpsichord in meantone for
bunch of pieces in our last show. I used David v Ooijen's system,
with stcky tape. I went for the clear tape cause I'm so style concious.
It was sticky, but no more so than practicing while eating a
Croissant with jam and butter.
You basically have a set of options, David is correct that you can
set a high fret for example to get a true G sharp and get by without
the tastini for select pieces.
And you can look for pieces without an F sharp, there are some nice
ones, and so on. I find for a lot of the music I like to
I had the rad treatment for the soundboards in our two harpsichords.
I think it really makes a difference for harpsichords, no experience
with lute tops.
The harpsichords sounded more like original instruments, of course
that is the now old but then was new dilemma.
dt
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When I get a chance, I'll post some high speed video of the
differences in the string vibration after breaking in an instrument
using my system.
I have had good success on all the instruments I have tried it on,
maybe thirty instruments.
Of course whether it sounds better is very subjective,
One very good excercise to break in a lute is to hold the lute in
your lap with the soundboard facing the ceiling (if you have one).
Start by plucking a very slow but firm rest stroke on the second
course till you get one bell like, clean sound. Use the index finger,
pulling towards you. Adjust
We know that continuo players often played with the treble players
before the bass entrance because of the many examples of figures in
the colla parte parts. The figures show many things, but the two that
jump out are first that
these parts are not cues because they have figures, but also that
, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Mathias Rösel
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David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
We know that continuo players often played with the treble players
before the bass entrance because of the many examples of figures in
the colla parte parts.
How will you know what they actually did
Perhaps that is a better term, but some basso sequente parts do not
double the treble.
In addition, colla parte is a style of continuo playing, whereas some
seguente parts can also be simply composite bass parts. The famous
resolution of Palestrina's works by organ would fall more
a bit off the back till they
are between .85-1.05mm
They work very well--maybe because the thickness stays constant after use.
dt
At 02:07 AM 10/29/2008, you wrote:
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:46 PM, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't forget that David is using historical strings, so
Tuning with sound trains your ear, and therefore trains your musical abilities.
Get a tuner that plays sounds, and tune unisons (or other intervals,
if you wish).
When your ear is trained, you will then know for sure if the lute is
in tune; no box required :)
The visual tuner is useful for
Don't forget that David is using historical strings, so that the
highest tension (17 kg) is on the treble end, and the lowest
(.007Kg) is on the bass, hence his nickname David 007
dt
See the picture on on this page:
http://home.planet.nl/~ooije006/david/writings/meantone_f.html
(scroll
Are we talking Gaffer tape here, like to hold down a mic cable in a
concert hall? Brilliant.
dt
At 06:41 AM 10/28/2008, you wrote:
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have decided to try Just tuning first
I have never tried. Let us know if it works for
Looking at the picture it looks like the no residue thin masking
tape used for painting on wood surfaces.
I'll try it today! Off to the Home Depot (where I also buy the
redwood for the theorbo necks)
dt
At 10:47 AM 10/28/2008, you wrote:
Are we talking Gaffer tape here, like to hold down a mic
There is no easy answer. You can play colla parte, or course, the
ultimate challenge for any lute music, or double the lower voices, or
you can just figure it. If it is a later Baroque piece, there will
many interlocking 7ths and 9ths, and in these cases I often will play
the sevenths so that
Sounds painful
dt
At 02:24 PM 10/26/2008, you wrote:
- Original Message - From: Charles Browne
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You have to bear in mind that the book arose out of a dissertation
and was therefore circumscribed by the academic hierachy
Charles
Could you pls. kindly explain why that
Tenor viol. Tuned like a lute. Have fun!
Fretless is not always fancy free.
dt
At 07:21 PM 10/23/2008, you wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008, Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Thanks, all.
Well, I was just daydreaming. I think I may be coming to the end of
my serious lute playing phase of my
Blavet
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Thanks for all your work Rob, and Kudos to the fearless performers.
dt
At 12:19 PM 10/21/2008, you wrote:
I've added these excellent videos to the Lutes and Early Guitars video
collection [1]http://www.vimeo.com/francesco which now has 227 videos.
Rob MacKillop
2008/10/21
Short reports from the trade shows:
Not much new in the way of affordable gear for recording and video.
Microphones in particular disappointing at this year's AES show. A few
advances on the high end, such as the Schoeps
open cardioid microphone and a $3000 Sennheiser that looks
/1983562
Fain would I wed by Thomas Campion
http://www.vimeo.com/1982787
Adorable Princesse by Pierre Guedron
http://www.vimeo.com/1986060
On Oct 22, 2008, at 2:07 PM, David Tayler wrote:
Of special interest to lute players are the Vivia HF100 and HF 11. The
HF100--the least expensive
David's correction fixes another mistake, which is that as written,
the two lower parts create a direct ocatve approached by double skip.
I would add the opening of the Lachrimae solo to the puzzle list, as
the parallel fifths in the opening bar--which are on every
recording--are not present
Do have a look at the book Chansons au Luth, available in any good library.
Careful with the pages, they crinkle (high acid content).
A nice introductory selection of 16th lute songs.
d
At 05:49 PM 10/20/2008, you wrote:
Hi to everyone,
I've been loonking for duos for a soprano and
lute
Considering the entire oeuvre of Machaut, range, style, etc, you
should definitely consider vielle.
Earlier instruments predating Machaut) include the figure-of-eight
fiddle which appears in many sources.
I myself use a 5 string vielle for Machaut which has the low C. Of
course ppl can--and
Tuned like a lute would be the problem, since we don't know how the
lute was tuned.
Bowed psalteries crwths have no frets.
I would say the waisted gittern is a possibility--can be bowed, lutish tuning.
There are all sorts of early viels and rebecs, some of the in very
early cathedral art, but
For museum souvenir types, the Fuji F31FD will
take a photo even without flash instantly in
copy (Black White) or Museum mode. This includes paintings as well.
The camera will easily copy oversize books as well.
dt
At 06:23 AM 10/18/2008, you wrote:
I have a Xerox of the original taken from
I've been experimenting with substituting the harpsichord in high
baroque pieces with organ and archlute--the archlute has less of a full
sound than the theorbo but the treble makes a nice counterpoint for
Bach
The Bach Sonata here is traditionally played with harpsichord continuo,
Holy cow that is so awesome!
dt
At 05:07 PM 10/13/2008, you wrote:
To all:
Donna has managed to post the Romanesca and Galliard in record time.
It is available at the link below.
[1]http://www.mignarda.com/editions/downloads.html
Best wishes,
Ron Donna
10/13/2008, David Tayler wrote:
Lucky to get at him before the eating binge.
BTW, Henry VIII didn't write pastime either.
That would upset Ian Anderson and Jethro Tull who recorded an instrumental
version of the tune as King Henry's Madrigal.
Eugene
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Lucky to get at him before the eating binge.
BTW, Henry VIII didn't write pastime either.
d
At 10:12 AM 10/13/2008, you wrote:
Uhm... you might want to arrange a date with Anne Boleyn and a few
Catholic priests in a nice, quiet bar somewhere for a couple of stiff
ones and a little chat- then
Totally. TOTALLY. I would LOVE a copy of that opening number--any clues?
Free Bach and Telemann CD for anyone who has it.
dt
At 11:50 AM 10/13/2008, you wrote:
Dear List,
Please note my new email address - I've decided to check the lute
list at home rather than at work!
I've been
concordances in books I have here at home Valerius and Adriaenssen
for Jeune Fillette = Nonette = La Monica, but I'm still in search for an
easy version with simple chords in the key of G.
Greetings from Belgium,
Greet
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
When I perform this version, I omit the lute playout in lieu of a vocal repeat
You can have a free listen here
http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/orinda-airs/
to see if you like it
dt
At 06:17 PM 10/6/2008, you wrote:
Colliginous trenchancy,
Tonight I was given a pretty hard-to-read copy of
My wife and I just played some renaissance flutes and recorders and
they were close to 440, maybe a bit lower, whatever the keynote was.
The instruments came in many sizes, so what was a D flute or a C
flute or a small bass flute is an interesting question.
All of the instruments sounded
I believe we can go back as far as Edgar Hunt and
an early edition of Variety of lute lessons for
the (1958) true rather than thou but I haven't
looked at it since 1971 when I purchased it in
Patelson's in NY and my memory is not airtight.
If I lent it to someone, please return it BTW. It's
Well, we don't know for sure, but it is very likely that the ow is
like rose, doughnut, toad, etc., for the simple reason that Semper
Dowland Semper Dolens in its various forms has a nicer ring to it.
Having said that, England was famous for its eye rhymes and off
rhymes, the best example is
I think if we don't have any real historical evidence we are just
retouching the color of the past. There are plenty of paintings
showing lutes and shawms, trumpets, drums and so on. A motley crew.
And what sounds louder close up does not necessarily carry, so room
size becomes a factor, and
A close approximation is given in Paul Beier's program
http://www.musico.it/lute_software/BSFC.htm
However, it only works for left handed lutes.
dt
At 02:40 PM 10/2/2008, you wrote:
Bruno Fournier wrote:
Does anyone know the equivalent of the following woundPyramid strings
but in
I thought Spaetklang was when you can't keep the tempo.
d
At 02:08 AM 9/30/2008, you wrote:
And Splatklang is when you don't quite manage to play that difficult
chord
P
2008/9/30 Mathias Roesel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
So, is Spaltklang
Just out of curiosity, I listened to to samples from various
recordings, especially concert recordings, since breaths are edited
in recordings, using a pair of headphones that I use for editing.
Without mentioning specifics, I can say for the majority breathing is
pretty random and does not
Cedar
dt
At 02:54 AM 9/29/2008, you wrote:
On Sep 29, 2008, at 4:40 PM, David Tayler wrote:
Plenty of subvocalization as well, which of course is also edited out.
How do you edit that out?
Glen Gould wants to know.
Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
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http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow
if the noises are removeable, then go on to the next take.
Very useful for big expensive things, of course, where retakes are not
an option.
dt
At 03:24 AM 9/29/2008, you wrote:
On Sep 29, 2008, at 7:13 PM, David Tayler wrote:
Cedar
???
Ed Durbrow
Saitama
too, but less disturbing I
think...
V.
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Objet : [LUTE] Re: breathing
At 03:40 AM 9/29/2008, David Tayler wrote:
Just out of curiosity, I listened
As a singer, I find breathing very important; as a lute player, I
find not breathing very important. Why this is, I don't know, but it
definitely affects my accuracy.
dt
On Sep 28, 2008, at 12:53 AM, damian dlugolecki wrote:
Regular breathing is essential to maintaining composure while
I think that the singing is the important part here. The players then
were able to sing a part song at sight, that's what all the great
ones of the renassance agree on.
Once you can do that, you can choose to adapt your singing--and the
breathing that is part of the singing technique--to your
Hundreds of 16th c sources show playing over or just behind the sound hole.
The situation thus reflects layers of diversity
in technique: just as there was thumb middle in
addition to over under, there are clearly
players who played close to the bridge, near the
bridge, halfway to the sound
range of pre-amps too. I wasn't aware that 16 bit or 24 bit made such a
difference when recording. Then again I haven't recorded anything from my
lute yet. Suppose I ought to really.
Neil
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it out.
Neil
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Microphone
I have nothing against the zoom, I think it is priced about right, the
Fostex competes favorably with more expensive
David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tascam's stuff is not what it was.
I will be at the AES show in a few weeks and I'll post a report
of
the good lute recording stuff,
there may be a Fostex beater out there, or some new budget mics.
Always look
tascam's stuff is not what it was.
I will be at the AES show in a few weeks and I'll post a report of
the good lute recording stuff,
there may be a Fostex beater out there, or some new budget mics.
Always look for a noise figure of 129.5 EIN in a preamp and A
weighted 10-15 in a mic.
It won't
When I was starting to play recital (think 70s) I used the recorder
(in this case, tape) occasionally as a reality check--horrible as it may be--
and also as a way to learn pieces for concerts.
I would memorize the piece, which is absolutely essential as a
paradigm--that is, you need to know
Title is
Have you seen but a bright lily grow
Anapestic; alliteration
Though there are many variations in the sources, the first line must
have 9 feet.
From the poem
Her triumph
dt
At 11:46 PM 9/12/2008, you wrote:
Dear Peter
Find attached the continuo/lute song Have You Seen the Bright
I remember a singer in the Collegium did a presentation on the
Shamisen, and he said it was the most politically incorrect
instrument possible, as his was made from a cat and played with a
gigantic chunk of ivory.
Sounded lovely, I think the cats eyes were arranged into a pattern.
dt
To get
I think axe is a great example, if one can mentally remove any images
of Jack Nicholson.
dt
At 07:32 AM 9/5/2008, you wrote:
From: David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for Sean's insights.
The etymology of lute cannot, of course, be known as a cerainty,
however the most likely explanation
I think fan bracing started at the Burgundian court, wherein the
audience was given vast quantities of mead before the concert.
dt
At 09:51 AM 9/5/2008, you wrote:
Someone quoted a guitar player writing about lutes:
After the demise of the lute, however, the guitar continued to
evolve. In
Thanks for Sean's insights.
The etymology of lute cannot, of course, be known as a cerainty,
however the most likely explanation is that it is derived from the
early medieval arabic word for twig or bent stick.
Many scholars have erroneously used modern arabic false cognates. The
naming
I plugged it in :)
How is the organ powered?
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wrote:
David--
That's beautiful! How can I download it from Vimeo??
Thanks and regards,
Leonard Williams
On 9/2/08 5:39 PM, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
New video old classic. I chose my 1982 Klaus Jacobsen-also an old
classic-
theorbo for this because the surface
New video old classic. I chose my 1982 Klaus Jacobsen-also an old
classic-
theorbo for this because the surface is not shiny, then realized it has
the most mellow sound.
The tube
[1]http://tinyurl.com/5bl8hx
The vimeo
[2]http://www.vimeo.com/1653186
The vimeo looks nice
Willi Apel's transcription was often cited as an example of the
pitfalls of music transcriptions.
dt
At 05:05 AM 9/1/2008, you wrote:
I received this request via a hurdy-gurdy list; anyone have answers?
Thanks and regards,
Leonard Williams
-- Forwarded Message
From: Martin Lodahl [EMAIL
Yes, you can record direct.
I record to my laptop. RME Fireface 400 is probably the best option,
followed by Focusrite or the EMU series.
I also record the video direct, but I will probably plunk for the
Vixia Video Flash recorder after Photokina.
Unfortunately, Samson might not be ideal for
eBay is your friend :)
I'm sorry to say that in buying recording equipment, if you buy
anything other than what the salesperson recommends, you have better
odds of getting something good.
It really is a shame, but of course the sales people have no training
in recording, otherwise they would
You can use open source software, and there are linux distos that are
tweaked for audio video, but at this point I would not reccomend it.
Even a $40 app like Magix Movie will do full HD video and have the
proper sound track software that you need. Sound track is a must
unless you want it to
Not to be disagreable, but I would not recommend the Mac quicktime.
There are just too many bugs
Go with H264 pure codec. There is s free one for any any platform,
MAcs included. H264 is what youtube is eating these days.
dt
At 06:51 PM 8/26/2008, you wrote:
Well, it's not open source but it
Serveral of my instruments have a VERY tiny notch at the bowl-neck
join to enable one more gut fret. I would definitely not advise
notching the bowl, just use a gluon or a quark.
One of my favorit
dte memories from 1972 was taking a sandcat belt sander to my
Papazian lute and removing the
I think it took at least three hours. Fortunately, mine did not have
the fingerboard raised onto the soundboard.
I also sanded the bridge down to remover the saddle, but I can't
remember how. After the fingerboard was gone, the saddle seemed unnecessary.
It was a great lute for its time.
dt
At
If the crack is in the soundboard, and it is hairline, you can work
glue into it by gently pushing up and down on one side of the
crack--donn't make it biiger. If it is bigger, you need to fill it,
or brace it from underneath.
If it is Buzzing, most likely you have a loose brace. The system I
I'm wondering if what we as musicians refer to as response is the
delay to peak, or something quantifiable in the wave. Intriguing.
dt
At 08:56 PM 8/24/2008, you wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, David Tayler wrote:
... I'm getting 20 milliseconds till the peak
amplitude, ...
Thanks
The basic differences in the port de voix from
modern interpretation compared to the baroque would perhaps be as follows
1. In general, the ornamnent is longer than the main note (but see below)
2. Normally, this note is terminated with a
battement because the sound is too strong without it.
3.
Looking at my waveform, I'm getting 20 milliseconds till the peak
amplitude, then a few hiccups but fairly smooth decay. That's a lot
faster than a tenth of a second, but my instruments have very thin
soundboards.
My harpsichord wave forms have much the same shape, although the
spike is
Here is a lute pluck made from a Schoeps MK2.
The peak is reached after about 20 milliseconds, so about the same
time as my attention span. Hm.
http://www.voicesofmusic.org/lutepluck.jpg
dt
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Mel Wong could make a salad bowl sing likeTieffenbruchar.
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Such a cool piece. The big tryptich. It is good you mention it. I
looked at it last in 1977 (yikes), so I need to look again, but there
are a number of inconsistencies in the lute part, which is highly unusual.
Way back when, several of the lute players thought that the lute part
was in many
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Sent: 14 July 2008 23:58
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dance of the Washer Woman.
Do you have a low F on the seventh course? Or is it a 6c?
d
At 03:36 PM 7/14/2008, you wrote
I don't think I recommend snakewood for that, certainly not as good as yew.
Makes great bows, however, and the keyboard on my chamber organ is snakewood.
dt
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Your pegs need to be turned, fitted or sharpened until true.
Different pegs have different pitch, so the builder is the best choice.
Some keep a peg sharpener on hand, a couple of twists, and voila,
the pitch is restored; the peg is true. But shorter, of course.
In addition, you may have to true
Arthur Ness is the one to ask, it is from a manuscript from 1567.
dt
At 10:48 AM 8/2/2008, you wrote:
A while ago I came across a reference to a suite of pieces for lute
written in the mid 16th c by Giacomo Gorzanis, which I think is a
musical circle (in that it progresses through all 24 keys).
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