[LUTE] Re: Instruments in the cooler?

2006-08-24 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 09:05 AM 8/24/2006, David Rastall wrote: Lutes On A Plane? Pretty scary: Sammy L. starts taking his 10- course out of the case...aargh! a lute! we're dead for sure!!! I'm saving my movie-going dollars for Lethal Weapon XIII: Theorboed! Eugene To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: lute straps

2006-08-24 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:38 AM 8/24/2006, Rob Dorsey wrote: I'm going to take a chance and cut to the chase. All arcane and archaic solutions aside, a good and wide guitar strap hanging from proper strap buttons at the end cap and under the extreme forward end of the body is a most secure and comfortable solution.

[LUTE] Re: Francesco da Milano

2006-08-10 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Absolutely...or at least nylon is authentic to the 20th c. The Treatyse of Fyshynge wyth an Angle (anon. 1496, in The Book of St. Albans, attr. Dame Juliana Berners) and Isaak Walton (1654, The Compleat Angler), amongst others, would have me dye and plait strands of horse tail. No thank you!

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi D-major concerto

2006-06-15 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:53 AM 6/12/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't some of his lute music composed in Prague? Someone on this list pointed out that it could even be intended for mandora in this case. Indeed. I think this is the correct citation for the published argument: Liefeld, E. 2002/2003. Pondering

[LUTE] Re: Reinhard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-05 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:56 PM 6/2/2006, Howard Posner wrote: There are probably some on the list who don't know that Reinhard Goebel was, before his left hand went dead, one of the pre-eminent baroque violinists, and is the founder-director of Musica Antiqua Koln, a string-oriented early music with a reputation for

[LUTE] Re: Sting.com news.news

2006-05-30 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:38 AM 5/27/2006, Ed Durbrow wrote: Speaking of lute fusion, let's not forget the lute tracks by another rocker, Jan Akkerman, member of the 70s Dutch rock band Focus. During the Focus-years, Jan released two solo albums. In 1972, 'Profile' was released, which featured one side of heavy

[LUTE] Re: Acker Bilk's Canon

2006-05-23 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I think Al Bowly is pretty well known, is he not? Thus the funnierness of the typo. Of course, in context, this is a misinterpretation of Tomaso Albinoni. Eugene At 05:51 PM 5/22/2006, bill kilpatrick wrote: is there anyone alive - other than ... - who even knows who al bowlly was?

[LUTE] Re: Meantone temperament

2006-03-28 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:58 AM 3/28/2006, Arto Wikla wrote: And perhaps the same ear of the period was less tolerant to every tonality sounding the same and no tonality sounding pure, all the major thirds sounding ugly... ;-) Obviously...but you still can't truly fret any instrument to any temperament scheme

[LUTE] Re: laute/lute, mandora, and guitar (was Hello from total newbies...)

2006-03-21 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 06:05 AM 3/21/2006, Mathias Rösel wrote: IMHO Bruger, and Kirsch, have shown that the modern guitar of the Habsgurgian countries owed much of its design to the mandora, and not vice versa... Given the whole of the uses of both these things, I agree they had to have influenced each other, but

[LUTE] Re: Hello from total newbies who are in for the long haul

2006-03-21 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 06:31 PM 3/20/2006, Thomas Schall wrote: That's exactly my point. It's a matter of imagination: If I imagine the lute of Weiss or Dowland I would be far off if I would call a Wandervogellute the appropriate instrument (and similar would be the mandolin, Liuto Forte, Charango or what else). On

[LUTE] Re: Hello from total newbies who are in for the long haul

2006-03-20 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:37 AM 3/18/2006, Stephen Fryer wrote: Well I've seen a lautengitarre but this is my first for a theorbengitarre! Basically it is a guitar trying to be a theorbo. Not as common as the 6-string Wandervogel-era lauten, but they still aren't uncommon. Of course, they are more functionally

[LUTE] Re: laute/lute, mandora, and guitar (was Hello from total newbies...)

2006-03-20 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:48 PM 3/20/2006, you wrote: The so-called wandervogel lute is an heir to the mandora which is a 6c lute that flourished during Rococo era until, say, mid-18th century. Mandoras were single-strung _before_ the guitar was (von Fauner, Vienna). The early 19th century guitar took its 6th string

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

2006-03-15 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:31 AM 3/15/2006, Paul Pleijsier wrote: The Early Romantic Guitar enthusiasts have my vote: they seem to be trying to bring a more natural (less manufactured...?) approach to their realizations of the 19th-century repertoire. ?? I find that these players are mostly modern players,

[LUTE] Re: alternate and economy picking

2006-03-14 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 06:53 PM 3/12/2006, Leonard Williams wrote: Regarding Economy Picking-- I find that in six-eight time economy picking works nicely on adjacent strings. That's a case where up-down-up-etc can get a little funny with beat emphasis. It can be tricky, but it can also make things a little

[LUTE] Re: missing link

2006-03-07 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:46 PM 3/7/2006, bill kilpatrick wrote: some years ago my wife bought me an absolute dud of an oud for xmas. i've done disfiguring and not altogether regrettable things to it in the interim but the warped neck finally drove me to my local liutaio - who will, he says, fix the buzz and make it

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]

2006-02-21 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:50 PM 2/21/2006, Grant Campbell wrote: Cono S: Nancy Carlins Number is 925-686-5800. Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's probably better to keep info like this confined to a private reply. Just a suggestion, Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Lego Harpsichord

2006-01-27 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 06:47 PM 1/26/2006, you wrote: This site might be of interest. It tells of a harpsichord built out of Lego. One wonders when they will attempt a lute. The address is http://www.henrylim.org/Harpsichord.html This made the rounds some years ago. It still sounds bad. Eugene To get on or

[LUTE] Re: Has anyone ordered a Lute from Luciano Faria or heard from him lately?

2006-01-25 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:52 PM 1/24/2006, Rebecca Banks wrote: January 24th, 2006 Dear Lutenists: Has anyone ordered a Lute from Luciano Faria or is currently talking to him? I ordered a Lute from him and sent him a downpayment in June 2005 (it looks like he does good work from his

[LUTE] Re: Do pegs wear out?

2006-01-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 08:45 PM 1/5/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spare pegs will be harder to come by. Here's one source: http://www.brucebrook.clara.net/pegs.htm I also know a luthier in Columbus, Ohio who was doing pegs for hire. Best, Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Music Therapy

2006-01-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 09:21 AM 1/6/2006, Donatella Galletti wrote: Well, I don't care much whether it has been demonstrated or not, it works for me and it's ok... That's very important, as I tried to allude in my last note. About the experiment below, did they care to check whether the people who looked after

[LUTE] Re: Music Therapy

2006-01-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 11:05:04 -0500 To: David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Music Therapy At 10:59 AM 1/6/2006, you wrote: I ask myself this one question about the Mozart Effect: why Mozart? Why not the Bach Effect? or the Brahms

[LUTE] Re: Music Therapy

2006-01-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:36 PM 1/6/2006, Stuart LeBlanc wrote: Actually there a contraposition Mozart effect, involving the dispersal of loitering teenagers, criminals, etc: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/08/low-tech_loiter.html I would guess the reason for this effectiveness is that, for these people,

[LUTE] Re: Music Therapy

2006-01-05 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:06 PM 1/5/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another potentially interesting use of music is reflected in research from a music teacher in this country (UK) which purported to show that playing Mozart to school pupils increased their capacity to learn. The so called Mozart effect

[LUTE] Re: We are performing at The Cloisters on December 30, 2005!

2005-12-20 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
In case any of you easterly N. Amer. types are up for indulging in a little semi-speculative and appealing punteado medieval luting this holiday season: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:05:38 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Redlinger/Sylvia Rhyne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: We are performing at The Cloisters on

[LUTE] Re: We are performing at The Cloisters on December 30, 2005!

2005-12-20 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
is at least semi-speculative. RT From: Eugene C. Braig IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case any of you easterly N. Amer. types are up for indulging in a little semi-speculative and appealing punteado medieval luting this holiday season: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:05:38 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Redlinger/Sylvia

[LUTE] Re: tuning

2005-12-19 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 07:30 AM 12/18/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But modern or period still does matter, I enjoy listening to Bruckner, Mahler etc. But I don't want to hear it played on a clavichord ! An inaudible lute showing it's extended pegbox is just not good enough for me, I expect a so high a level of

[LUTE] Re: tuning

2005-12-19 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 09:26 AM 12/18/2005, Daniel Shoskes wrote: On Dec 18, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: . Why am I getting back to the lute? I need one for my new post. I have just become Musician In Residence to a University for 3,500 nurses!!! Hmm. Shades of Antonio Vivaldi? Oops. Please

[LUTE] Re: tuning/modern orchestras/King Kong

2005-12-19 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 04:41 PM 12/18/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the real test of authenticity, Spielberg is not faithful to H.G.Wells book and produces an empty piece of Hollywood candyfloss. Jackson goes back to the original and even a step further, he discovers the essence of the original and produces

[LUTE] Re: tuning

2005-12-19 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 11:13 AM 12/19/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are Il Giardino Armonico hip ? I don't know about hip, but I do find them rather groovy. Best, Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango?

2005-12-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 06:12 PM 12/6/2005, Roger E. Blumberg wrote: I wasn't aware of all the other early references to viheula, nor that the word lira was ever used to refer to guitar-like instruments. I'd like to know more about that later item in particular, if you or someone would. I don't know if you've

[LUTE] Re: For Bill -- Small bodied vihuela-viola-guitars come charango?

2005-12-05 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Indeed, although vihuela is a rather antiquated equivalent to viola; no modern orchestras refer to their bowed altos as vihuela. I don't know that there are substantial gaps in the application of the term vihuela or its equivalents to various things. Regarding plucked things, it seems to me

[LUTE] Re: HI cases.

2005-11-29 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 08:28 AM 11/29/2005, Herbert Ward wrote: What were historical cases like? Surely they had cases (as opposed to bags or nothing at all) for their lutes. You can see the case that came with the 1680 Cutler-Challen mandolino by Stradivari here:

[LUTE] Re: Inexpensive lutes?

2005-11-21 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:25 AM 11/21/2005, Garry Bryan wrote: I'm also wondering why the tater bug they sell is going for 5159.89 USD. I don't care how fancy a tater bug is, it's still a tater bug and will most likely be worth 10 USD with in 10 years since someone in the owner's household is bound to step on it or

[LUTE] Re: Now we are one, forever...

2005-11-18 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:09 PM 11/18/2005, LGS-Europe wrote: I always understood that the lute song from Gloriana, the second lute song of the Earl of Essex, was intended for Peter Pears and Julian Bream, accompanying on lute. But Bream refused to play the lute, so it was rewritten for guitar. I have done it on lute

[LUTE] Re: Nocturnal

2005-11-18 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:39 PM 11/18/2005, Gregory C Brown wrote: Julian Bream on the RCA Red Seal LP 20th Century Guitar As it happens, I have an extra copy of this LP that I might consider parting with. Interested parties can contact me off list.. Bream re-recorded the Nocturnal for EMI for a CD entitled, of

[LUTE] Re: Now we are one, forever (New Boy Gets Lute, and a cherry tree dies)

2005-11-10 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 09:20 AM 11/10/2005, Garry Bryan wrote: The nails need to go, though. lose the nails nails delenda est no nails are good nails. Research all you can on the lute. Play the lute. Find a teacher. Ask questions. Trim your nails. On nails: it depends.

[LUTE] Re: 1890 lute composition

2005-11-02 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 11:25 AM 11/2/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: It is signed: Porcheria di F.Marchetti and probably is for some mandolin type of abomination. They're my favorite...right after wild salmonids. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: 1890 lute composition

2005-11-02 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:51 PM 11/2/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: Arctic char blows salmonids out of the water. And mandolins too. (Pssst...chars, of the genus Salvelinus, are salmonids...and I agree; my mandolins would do mighty poorly in the water.) To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Summary: gut vers. plastic strings

2005-10-31 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:09 PM 10/29/2005, EUGENE BRAIG IV wrote: I think the whole of the argument can be distilled to two camps: 1) Prescriptive: My approach to musical anachronism is truer than your approach, so your approach is flawed and/or wrong; you should do what I do or your music making will be

[LUTE] Re: Summary: gut vers. plastic strings

2005-10-31 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Greetings Gary At 05:39 PM 10/31/2005, gary digman wrote: I think your summary contains at least one red herring. Since I am the only person who used the word elitist, I'm assuming 1b was aimed at me. Not even remotely. I'm sorry if I gave that impression. I was only using elitist as

[LUTE] Re: Summary: gut vers. plastic strings

2005-10-31 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:46 PM 10/31/2005, Howard Posner wrote: Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: I wholeheartedly agree. That was the exact point of my reply. I had no doubts about your perspective on the matter. But the occasional posting of an unyielding absolutist position on this list tends to make newcomers

[LUTE] Re: An epistle from the gut

2005-10-28 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 04:38 PM 10/27/2005, Vance Wood wrote: So it could be argued that if being a purist is the essence of good Lute practice could it not also be said that playing a modern reproduction Lute using modern wood working tools from computer generated plans under unnatural lighting conditions is also as

[LUTE] Re: Strings 'n' things

2005-10-28 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 11:30 AM 10/28/2005, Herbert Ward wrote: I've tried fishing line before. Very bad as a lute string: thuddy tone and untrue. If you use it in an emergency, don't expect much. I have used it in an emergency too, and it strikes me as akin to any other nylon. I think, as in nylon

[LUTE] Re: Who wants to sell New Boy a lute?

2005-10-27 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:57 AM 10/27/2005, Paul Pleijsier wrote: In my eternal naivité, after a solo-lute concert (in a historic music room of a historic castle, which had a historic painting hanging on the wall which depicted this very room some four hundred years ago, with musicians playing lute), with lighting

[LUTE] Re: [VIHUELA] Re: rain ...origins of guitar

2005-10-24 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:08 PM 10/23/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: Does Wright ignore the most logical reason for the waist on an instrument, that is bow accomodation??? Evidently, given that he only discusses plucked things in isolation. To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Feedback on Luciano Faria?

2005-10-11 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:33 PM 10/11/2005, jim abraham wrote: I've been looking at the work of Luciano Faria (http://lucianofaria.com). His prices seem very reasonable, especially since I'm a student looking for a first lute, but my teacher, Chris Henriksen, doesn't know him. Can any experienced players and/or

[LUTE] Re: New Boy wants lute

2005-10-05 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:04 PM 10/5/2005, Greg M. Silverman wrote: So, back to the OP. He may wish to ask himself what repertoire he would be playing. In thinking on repertoire, our new boy should also be made aware that the things called lute in the baroque era, the 11- and 13-course instruments, are quite

[LUTE] Re: Antique tools.

2005-09-22 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 11:01 AM 9/22/2005, Herbert Ward wrote: Larry Brown (on his website) says that many of his tools are antique, and superior to their modern counterparts. The man's woodworking expertise is obvious (and probably also not obvious). So I wonder how it is that Craftsman, Black Decker, and

[LUTE] Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Goldberg VLC

2005-09-20 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:22 AM 9/20/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: I do like Hedges' stuff, but that's a hard claim to make given that Arcas or Aguado (I don't recall which Spanish A name off the top of my head, but it's well-known enough to be in one of those little Noad books) were tapping a la Hedges in the 19th c.

[LUTE] Re: Unquiet Thoughts

2005-09-15 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:30 PM 9/14/2005, Stewart McCoy wrote: Dear Eric, Let's not split hairs. You need to listen at least halfway through the MIDI file, to appreciate fully that someone lacks a certain musicological nous. Dowland must be turning in his grave. I use Mutopia scores for weird, old mandolin music

[LUTE] Re: ownership

2005-09-07 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I suppose it depends upon what one counts as lute: vihuela, mandolino, early Neapolitan mandolins, etc? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Guitar and lute

2005-09-01 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 09:51 AM 9/1/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: Still, I believe baroque music for guitar can be made to work as well on 6-string guitar as any baroque music if loosely approached, again, as transcription. 'Fraid not. Inasmush as you cannot play Froberger on a Steinway. It really depends. As

[LUTE] Re: phrasing and dynamics, was: Guitar and lute

2005-08-30 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
First, I agree; the should be to play it like you mean it. However, in dramatizing phrasing and dynamics in a way that is not necessarily implied in period sources, how HIP is it? Eugene At 07:17 AM 8/30/2005, lapis bleu wrote: keeping alive any piece of ancient music is something weird,

[LUTE] Re: [VIHUELA] uke as Baroque guitar

2005-08-30 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 07:34 AM 8/30/2005, Ed Durbrow wrote: Maybe if Corbetta were alive today. I think I saw him use a down and up stroke with the thumb on the first string. Didillo? Naw, dedillo. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Ophee

2005-08-29 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:30 AM 8/28/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I get it; everyone(?) hates Mr. MO. It's still censorship. I actually like Matanya and am truly appreciative of his work, which, in spite of his demonization here, is a labor of love (nobody gets rich specializing in the publishing of

[LUTE] Re: Ophee

2005-08-29 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 11:33 AM 8/28/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matanya's field of expertise is 19th-century guitar music. Whether this is the proper forum for discussing such matters, I will leave for others to judge. Perhaps not, but it would certainly seem to fit well here: vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu. Eugene

[LUTE] Re: Guitar and lute

2005-08-29 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:23 AM 8/29/2005, Alain Veylit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a fundamental point for lutenists: our music is not guitar music. S.L. Weiss was not a Baroque guitar composer. That point was made and proved more than a few decades ago... The relationship betweeen classical guitar and the lute

[LUTE] Re: Guitar and lute

2005-08-29 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:02 PM 8/29/2005, Mathias Rösel wrote: Has this been the experience of other lutenists? Not for me. I like HIP efforts at old music as well as modern transcription/performance of old music on currently active instruments. HIP simply offers one more facet of music for me to enjoy,

[LUTE] Re: Bone

2005-08-25 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:39 PM 8/25/2005, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Get Bone's book - it is eminently readable and, I believe, was republished in comparatively recent times - of course, it's not infallible... Indeed. It was first published in 1914, revised in (I believe) the 1950s, and reprinted in (I

[LUTE] Re: Werner Icking Music Archive

2005-08-24 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Here's another interesting bit of cyber scholarship of which I'm rather fond to which Werner Icking contributed: http://www.folias.nl/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Werner Icking Music Archive

2005-08-24 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 09:13 AM 8/23/2005, Stephen Arndt wrote: Hello, Arto and all! Here are some other links that have free editions of early music. The first, the Choral Public Domain Library, is also quite large but is presently undergoing reconstruction. The others are not so large, but many still have very

[LUTE] Re: guitares en bateau - MOTS

2005-08-19 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 09:26 AM 8/19/2005, Wayne Cripps wrote: From: Alain Veylit [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that unfortunately the author's English gets in the way sometimes, for instance when the 17th century lute neck is described as decorated with mother of toilet sit. Would that be mother of pearl?

[LUTE] Re: : Brescianello and Gallichon tuning(s)

2005-08-17 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
All this mandora/gallichon talk has me a little worked up. There is a marvelous matched ca. 1790 mandolino/mandola pair by Presbler in storage at the Met. Their decor is almost identical and they appear to have been built as a set. The mandolino is in six courses and I would assume intended

[LUTE] Re: Brescianello and Gallichon

2005-08-12 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 08:15 AM 8/12/2005, you wrote: Arto, not everyone shares your enthusiasm about Brescianello's mandora music, which was even (mis)committed to recording at least once, by Terrel Stone.. ..And even more (mis)committed on modern guitar to the Dorian Discovery label by Anthony Glise. I don't

[LUTE] Re: Brescianello and Gallichon

2005-08-12 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 09:40 AM 8/12/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just how different IS the Gallichon structurally from our beloved six-coursers? Much more proto-Wandervogel-like. A couple luthiers' takes: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/two.htm#mandoras http://www.lutesandguitars.co.uk/htm/cat08.htm To get on

[LUTE] Re: Colascione and Gallichon

2005-08-12 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:41 AM 8/12/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: I suspect Stephen is mistaken in identification of the Schorn axe as colascione, as it bears dangerously close resemblance to 2 pictures here midpage http://www.polyhymnion.org/torban/mamai4.html Interesting. To get on or off this list see list

Re: OT: Mozart for guitar

2005-08-03 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:59 PM 8/3/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not pining, but I think Mozart was a much better composer than the ones mentioned above; it would've been interesting. Any guitar that Mozart might've heard at that time would probably have been the five course type anyway... It was a

Re: OT: Mozart for guitar

2005-08-03 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:48 PM 8/3/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: Are you joking? Eugene, this is like saying tuna was whitebait. Are you not familiar with Mass in c-minor, Requiem, sonatas in a and c, fantasias in d and c, 25th symphony, concerti ##20, 24 26??? Not joking at all. But you've removed my assertion

Re: OT: Mozart for guitar

2005-08-03 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 04:45 PM 8/3/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: would have offered the guitar anything different. I might sound disrespectful of an entire instrument, but it would be impossible to make a small rodent roar like a large feline. The most profound lines given to squeaky voice would lose all impact.

Re: OT: Mozart for guitar

2005-08-03 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 04:59 PM 8/3/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: I think guitar habitually makes unrealistic claims.. Like lutes, mandolins, serpents, mandoras, etc., guitars are only inanimate tools. Guitars can't be blamed for what passionate, sometimes overzealous guitarists do in their name. Eugene

Re: French Lutenist about to release a worldwide first- the Book of Perrine

2005-07-08 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:01 PM 7/8/2005, Arthur Ness wrote: What has confused many is that in treble clef, the lute sounds an octave lower. I think these days this is accepted, whereas earlier O'Dette and others proposed a small lute to play an octave higher than the usual instrument. I think Paul now agrees that

Re: French Lutenist about to release a worldwide first- the Book of Perrine

2005-07-08 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 04:09 PM 7/8/2005, Howard Posner wrote: For Mr. O'Dettes old Hyperion recording of the Vivaldi works, he played all with the mandolino but RV 540. The works that specified leuto, he played with the fingers, and those that specified mandolino he played with a plectrum. I asked him

Re: French Lutenist about to release a worldwide first- the Book of Perrine

2005-07-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 06:37 PM 7/5/2005, Thomas Schall wrote: the c-minor prelude is in staff notation NOT in tablature! Vivaldi's lute conceros are written in staff notation, too. It was common to write the lute part in staff notation for that kind of music. You'll find it also in Fasch and others. I don't know

Re: French Lutenist about to release a worldwide first- the Book of Perrine

2005-07-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 06:01 AM 7/6/2005, Arthur Ness wrote: Those early 6 course guitars were also double (and sometimes triple-) strung. I don't know when the single strung guitar became common. But that shouldn't be too difficult to determine. There's a fine new book out on the early history of the C.F.Martin

Re: French Lutenist about to release a worldwide first- the Book of Perrine

2005-07-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 11:51 AM 7/6/2005, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: Staff notation being new... This, of course, should have read ...new to guitar... Sorry for my ambiguity. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: French Lutenist about to release a worldwide first- the Book of Perrine

2005-07-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:23 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote: In fact older than 6 course/string guitars: we musn't forget that the later 5 course guitar in France in the 2nd half of the 18thC used the octave transposing treble clef (ie as modern guitar music). Good point, Martyn. Thus my use of the adverb roughly.

Re: French Lutenist about to release a worldw

2005-07-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:23 PM 7/6/2005, Markus Lutz wrote: I would even assume, that the lute in the vivaldi concerts should play also the bass parts. I agree. I believe Vivaldi was only sketching a solo line in violinist's shorthand and expected competent lutenists to do the rest. P.S.: BTW - some of the

Re: French Lutenist about to release a worldw

2005-07-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:01 PM 7/6/2005, Thomas Schall wrote: have you ever tried to play them? I don't think the lute should play the bass part. If so, Vivaldi wrote something (for example in the slow movement of the concerto for Viola d'Amore, Lute and B.C.). But it doesn't disturb to add a bass here and there to

Re: French Lutenist about to release a worldwide first- the Book of Perrine

2005-07-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:05 PM 7/6/2005, Thomas Schall wrote: for an overview of the early romantic guitar visit http://www.earlyromanticguitar.com/ I like Len and his site, but in reading there be certain to recognize where his opinion is opinion and not necessarily fact: for example, I think his effort to

Re: French Lutenist about to release a worldw

2005-07-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 01:11 PM 7/6/2005, Mathias Rösel wrote: As for Vivaldi's lute concerti, I seem to remember that someone found out (one of the more recent issues of LSA quarterly) they were composed in Prague and were conceived for the then and there flourishing mandora. They were certainly dedicated to Wrtby

Re: French Lutenist about to release a worldwide first- the Book of Perrine

2005-07-05 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 08:57 AM 7/2/2005, Arthur Ness wrote: ...There is a transcrption of the 1680 edition. But it is for keyboard (ed.Erdas for Ut Orpheus),and ALL THE SPECIAL FINGERINGS FOR LUTE ARE LEFT OUT This is a resujlt of that disease guitar players seem to have, when they claim that when lute music

RE: Renaissance guitar

2005-07-05 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:18 PM 7/5/2005, Nelson, Jocelyn wrote: I recommend, however, that you find the tablatures of le Roy, Gorlier, Brayssing, and Morlaye. James Tyler may have an edition of some of these, and Monkmeyer has an edition of Le Roy's 1st book, pub. by Moeck Verlag Celle, 1995. Otherwise you'll

Re: rebuilt baroque lute on ebay

2005-06-20 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:10 AM 6/20/2005, Mathias Rösel wrote: just found this http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7331352015 whatever the neck and sound board may be, the belly once upon a time was of a baroque lute. How are you so certain, Mathias? Do you know this piece itself? At first look,

Re: CD reviews

2005-05-31 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Thank you, Thomas. I'll watch for these. John will also be performing in Columbus, OH,November 2005, this time on Russian 7-string guitar in duo as The Czar's Guitars: http://www.johnschneiderman.com/czarsguitars.htm. I'm looking forward to it...and to buying stacks of his CDs at the ticket

Re: lute hole

2005-05-27 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 11:56 AM 5/27/2005, Ed Durbrow wrote: Turn your guitar hole into a lute rose. http://www.soundonsound.com/news?NewsID=7585 These guys have been around for a great long time. I once called to probe on their capabilities to reproduce historic, inset roses. They can't; what you see is about

Re: Stradivari lute?

2005-05-24 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:41 AM 5/24/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Copies of this book can be ordered at http://www.hd01.com/cremonaviolins/english/ContactNav.asp for 12 €, plus delivery fees. I have called them and the book is available Thank you, Marcello. Eugene To get on or off this list see list

Re: symm/asymm perfect/imperfect

2005-05-24 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 02:24 PM 5/24/2005, Dr. Marion Ceruti wrote: ++Yes, you are right when applied to the lute body which can have a plane of symmetry, this part can in theory be completely symmetrical with respect to that plane. It is the nut and peg box that break the symmetrical pattern... ..and bridges

Re: symm/asymm perfect/imperfect

2005-05-24 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:01 PM 5/24/2005, Dr. Marion Ceruti wrote: ...But what if you apply the symmetry question to only the body and the top without taking into account the internal structure and bridge? Then is there a reason for asymmetry? I think so, and the only reason for that single plane of symmetry

Re: Stradivari lute?

2005-05-23 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 08:20 AM 5/23/2005, Alexander Batov wrote: I think there is one more Strad guitar in private collection in Italy, with some late alterations (shortened neck etc); can find out more if desired ... I have a decent French article on Strad's guitars at home. (Writing from the office I can't

Re: Stradivari lute?

2005-05-23 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 04:42 PM 5/23/2005, Alexander Batov wrote: My information on the third (in our thread) Strad guitar is entirely based on this book: Gianpaolo Gregori, La Chitarra Giustiniani Antonio Stradivari 1681, Cremona 1998. It is a fairly thorough study with lots of photographs and x-rays and the guitar

Re: cement

2005-05-20 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 08:18 AM 5/19/2005, Arto Wikla wrote: I doubt that! The Finnish word viha is hate (noun) in English. ;-) At least vihuela would be a very small hate. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Lute Sighting

2005-05-16 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 04:58 PM 5/16/2005, Leonard Williams wrote: Last night's season finale of The Simpson's featured a lute solo by Otto, the school bus driver, at the Medieval Festival. He finished his set by bashing and burning his lute. The instrument appeared to be a very early four-course model.

Re: VERY OFF TOPIC (POLITICS)

2005-05-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 08:59 AM 5/6/2005, The Other wrote: Robert Heinlein. What do you think about his premise in Starship Troopers? (I'll need to reread the book again to be certain.) That the right to vote is only given to those who have served in the military. I don't think anything at all about it...in

Re: Posts which are off-topic.

2005-05-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 09:45 AM 5/6/2005, Herbert Ward wrote: I think being rigidly on-topic is bad. I think that art which is isolated from the real world is not viable. Of course, but topics that are thoroughly isolated from lute on this list should not be viable. It's too bad they seem to be the most viable.

Mozart effect

2005-05-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
I am intensely skeptical of the Mozart effect. Not so formal as peer reviewed article abstracts, but this little online entry sums things up nicely: http://skepdic.com/mozart.html Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: VERY OFF TOPIC (POLITICS)

2005-05-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:21 AM 5/6/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: Is the Right to bear Lutes inalienable? Without doubt! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: VERY OFF TOPIC (POLITICS)

2005-05-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:34 AM 5/6/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eugene C. Braig IV scripsit: At 10:21 AM 5/6/2005, Roman Turovsky wrote: Is the Right to bear Lutes inalienable? Without doubt! Make it audible in Washington. Oddly enough, part of my day job is to pound the pavement and be audible

Re: VERY OFF TOPIC: POLITICS...but I wish it were on topic and not politics.

2005-05-05 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Whatever I think of this topic is irrelevant on this list. I get enough of this type of banter from conversation, radio, print media, television, etc. Unfortunately, I get precious little talk of lute kin from most conversation, radio, print media, television, etc. I wish I could get some

Re: Gorzanis

2005-05-02 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Here is the last bit of anything I have to offer on Gorzanis and the mandolin orchestra at the moment, this from the liner notes of the previously cited CD: Gorzanis, a native of the southern Italian province of Puglia, was blind by birth [EB: if he was blind by birth, thank God he enjoyed his

Re: Gorzanis

2005-04-28 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 08:15 AM 4/28/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was asked to play some Villanella by G.Gorzanis to our local mandolin orchestra who want to play an arrangement of them (by D.Kreidler) - does anyone know if there are online editions of these pieces are available? I don't know, but I doubt it.

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