[LUTE] La Mantovana tablature?

2016-05-20 Thread howard posner
Can anyone direct me to a source for a historical intabulation of La Mantovana/Fuggi Fuggi? I’m aware of the two settings on Roman’s page. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: resting rt hand pinky

2016-03-14 Thread howard posner
> On Mar 14, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: > > Mine is too short, so I don't, ever. And we know what Marco Rubio says about guys with short pinkies. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Dante

2016-02-20 Thread howard posner
> On Feb 20, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: > > Liberal, from the Latin liberalis, means ample, free or generous. That may be true, but “liberal education,” "liberal arts,” or “liberal studies” has/had a different, and more specific, meaning: “those studies

[LUTE] Re: Early Music Bracket

2016-02-18 Thread howard posner
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: > > I always suspected you had uncomfortably close ties with that bunch Trumps come in bunches? > but didn't know you had direct line to The Donald itself. Sad thing is that > this time he's right. About 18th-century

[LUTE] Re: Early Music Bracket

2016-02-17 Thread howard posner
> On Feb 17, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Christopher Wilke > wrote: > > Weiss is currently in 1st place! That’s because 18th-century composers are a bunch of loosuhs. --The Donald To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: looking for Baroque music for treble recorder with continuo for 8-course Renaissance lute

2016-01-21 Thread howard posner
> On Jan 21, 2016, at 2:32 PM, jsl...@verizon.net wrote: > > Finally, the very term "baroque" was coined to describe extravagant or > even bizarre ornamentation. The divisions of Bassano and his > contemporaries can be viewed as examples of this style. "Baroque" is a n art historians’ term

[LUTE] Re: looking for Baroque music for treble recorder with continuo for 8-course Renaissance lute

2016-01-21 Thread howard posner
> On Jan 21, 2016, at 9:16 PM, howard posner <howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > > "Baroque" is a n art historians’ term I decided to abort that message, but hit send instead of delete. I was going to [not] point out that "baroque music” means no more than “mu

[LUTE] Pitch

2016-01-18 Thread howard posner
On Jan 18, 2016, at 1:27 PM, William Brohinsky wrote: > Is there a reference for these dates/numbers, especially the claim that A440 > was 'set' in 1916 for American Standard Pitch for pianos? > > In 30 years of piano tuning, I've seen many claims, but I am unaware of an

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Pitch

2016-01-17 Thread howard posner
> On Jan 17, 2016, at 12:09 PM, Lute List wrote: > > American standard pitch for pianos was set at 440 in 1916 By whom, if you happen to know? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Performing lute in ensemble

2015-12-27 Thread howard posner
> On Dec 27, 2015, at 4:45 PM, Ed Durbrow wrote: > > Also, I recall someone from one country being quite surprised how much louder > the lutes (or theorbos?) were in another country. Italian archlutes were as loud as French theorbos, according to Mersenne? or some

[LUTE] Re: Wetting Fingers

2015-12-23 Thread howard posner
Nigel also passes his right hand fingertips through his mouth just before he starts playing. At least he did years ago; I haven’t seen him in a while. > On Dec 23, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Dan Winheld wrote: > > I have played lutes of all kinds since 1966, (and guitar for 9 years

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Pitch

2015-12-12 Thread howard posner
> On Dec 12, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Edward Martin wrote: > > I am wondering, has anybody on the list read some of the arguments > about changing the modern pitch standard as a + 432? A major push for 432 came from none other than convicted mail fraud conspirator and

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Pitch

2015-12-12 Thread howard posner
> On Dec 12, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: > > Nevertheless, most lutenists play solo, Most amateur lutenists. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Tempo and pitch

2015-12-06 Thread howard posner
> On Dec 5, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: > > The "thinking error" in my estimation lies in assuming that players ever > discussed their reference pitch at all. Instruments were tuned to where they > felt and sounded right or, in the case of accompanying

[LUTE] Re: Lutes lasting under various conditions.

2015-11-23 Thread howard posner
> On Nov 23, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Herbert Ward wrote: > > Suppose three identical lutes stored under different > conditions: > > an unheated barn, out of the rain and sun, but > exposed to humidity and temperature changes (no case) > > a typical modern home

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Dowland leads the way

2015-11-07 Thread howard posner
> On Nov 7, 2015, at 4:53 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: > > We have posted our Saturday morning quotes, Dowland leads the way. > [1]http://wp.me/p15OyV-1 That particular link goes to Ron's 28 September 2010 post. The link at the bottom of your email goes to the one about

[LUTE] Re: How a tennis match, a hat and a low doorway let to the Parisian chanson

2015-09-24 Thread howard posner
The problem of French monarchs hitting their heads on low doorways was solved once and for all toward the end of Louis XVI’s reign. > On Sep 24, 2015, at 1:55 PM, David Tayler wrote: > > The game's ahead: how a tennis match led to the development of the > Parisian

[LUTE] Re: What If A Day lyrics

2015-09-11 Thread howard posner
and a man is tiny compared to the earth, so get over yourself’ is admirably clear and succinct, but good luck making a song out of it. Howard Posner (waiting to see how many listers upload “get over yourself” lute songs on Youtube) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quotes - Lutes and brains

2015-08-29 Thread howard posner
On Aug 29, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Rainer rads.bera_g...@t-online.de wrote: I have no idea who Gordon Matthew Thomas Sumner is. Oddly enough, Sting said something similar. His 1985 documentary “Bring on the Night” has footage of a press conference in which some British press person prefaces

[LUTE] Pickledherring Lute Book Upside-down pages

2015-07-06 Thread howard posner
I should have actually looked at my copy of Jane Pickledherring’s Lute Book before I responded tp your last post, but I had to move what interior designers refer to as “a whole bunch of stuff” to get to it. I’ve moved the whole bunch of stuff after reading: On Jul 5, 2015, at 7:53 PM, John

[LUTE] Re: Pickledherring Lute Book Upside-down pages

2015-07-06 Thread howard posner
On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:05 AM, Ron Andrico praelu...@hotmail.com wrote: If you read the introduction and inventory, there is a helpful passage The same instructions are printed on the pages themselves, to prevent readers from playing the music standing on their heads. To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: Questions for Monica

2015-07-05 Thread howard posner
On Jul 5, 2015, at 5:08 PM, John Mardinly john.mardi...@asu.edu wrote: I just got the Jane Pickering lute book out of the Arizona State University music library (Boethius Press, Robert Spencer ed., 1985), and there are 12 pages bound upside down, although there are page numbers

[LUTE] Re: Paduane in Triple Time

2015-07-04 Thread howard posner
On Jul 4, 2015, at 11:00 AM, jmpoirier2 jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Sure, but I can't remember pieces called Pavanes notated or played in triple time... You’ll remember two obvious examples once someone mentions them: the sixth of Milan's pavanas, on page 82 of El Maestro (the 82nd

[LUTE] Single-strung lutes

2015-06-17 Thread howard posner
On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:19 PM, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Dear Howard, I think you mean unlikely rather than inconceivable. Of course, you know what I mean better than I do myself, so thanks for clarifying. Tho' even this is questionable: from the historical

[LUTE] Re: Tiorba

2015-06-16 Thread howard posner
On Jun 16, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Roland Hayes rha...@legalaidbuffalo.org wrote: ..and Castaldi's illustration is phoney? The illustration you’re thinking of is almost certainly a tiorbino. That said, it’s inconceivable that in nearly two centuries nobody NO historical players ever used

[LUTE] Re: Tiorba

2015-06-16 Thread howard posner
On Jun 16, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: But are any of the cool kids using strings that behave like the extra lengths of string are behaving in this pic? Very kinky! What you’re probably seeing is the famous tiorba apesca” or “bee-style

[LUTE] Re: Spain 2, Italy 1 in extratime

2015-05-07 Thread howard posner
On May 7, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Ron Andrico praelu...@hotmail.com wrote: I have to say that trivial details like historical facts are often purged from any story based on historical drama in favor of popular appeal during the process of adapting for the screen. And why not, when the

[LUTE] Re: Lutheran Hymns 4 lute?

2015-03-21 Thread howard posner
The Lute Society of America Quarterly published a handful of chorales for 10-course lute a long time ago. Maybe someone else can be more specific. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Polyphonic Intabulations

2015-03-20 Thread howard posner
Thanks for such an imposing amount of information packed into so few words. On Mar 19, 2015, at 3:20 AM, Hector Sequera hectorl...@mac.com wrote: A few points about intabulations of sacred music in England. 1) Availability of English music was an issue since England started printing music

[LUTE] Re: Two Rob MacKillop CDs now Online

2015-03-18 Thread howard posner
On Mar 18, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Rob MacKillop robmackil...@gmail.com wrote: These two albums are now out of print and out of stock, and the record company is OK about putting them online. You can't download them, but you can hear them as often as you want on my soundcloud page. Flowers Of

[LUTE] Re: Two Rob MacKillop CDs now Online

2015-03-18 Thread howard posner
On Mar 18, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Rob MacKillop robmackil...@gmail.com wrote: They've already put the albums on youtube Why would a record company do this? To collect advertising revenue? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Two Rob MacKillop CDs now Online

2015-03-18 Thread howard posner
On Mar 18, 2015, at 10:49 AM, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: This one seems to available on iTunes for $7.99 It seems to BE available. iTunes is, like, the place to BE, man... To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin

[LUTE] Re: green lute like instrument

2015-03-05 Thread howard posner
On Mar 5, 2015, at 2:47 PM, John Mardinly john.mardi...@asu.edu wrote: Don't gut strings and hide glue come from.dead animals? That’s why the European hoofed lizard is now extinct. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Written by Mrs. Bach

2015-03-01 Thread howard posner
On Mar 1, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Rainer rads.bera_g...@t-online.de wrote: Has any lute-netter in Germany or Switzerland seen Written by Mrs. Bach on 3SAT yesterday evening? A certain Martins Jarvis claims that Anna Magdalena composed some of Bach's finest works. Very funny… That would be

[LUTE] Re: Lute in the Future again

2015-02-27 Thread howard posner
On Feb 27, 2015, at 6:51 AM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: I apologize to you. I must say, I am entirely taken aback at your extremely impassioned defense of Danny. This leads me to believe that I may have somehow inadvertently touched upon some latent issues of your

[LUTE] Re: Lute in the Future again

2015-02-26 Thread howard posner
On Feb 26, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: Keeping one's mouth shut and pretending there is no dysfunction in the early music industry is absolutely unhealthy. We should ALL be keenly aware of that in the wake of the recent Philip Pickett scandal.

[LUTE] Re: Lute in the Future

2015-02-26 Thread howard posner
On Feb 26, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: Having been a victim of this system myself (repeatedly and much more frequently lately, it seems), I can totally understand Ron's reticence in naming names. Even describing scenarios in a general manner

[LUTE] Re: Lute in the Future again

2015-02-26 Thread howard posner
On Feb 26, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: Howard, I'll be frank. You are having way too much fun tearing apart the sincere, heartfelt confessions of musicians who - quite unlike yourself - are struggling to simultaneously make a living and art in a

[LUTE] Re: Obbligato lute and theorbo

2015-02-03 Thread howard posner
On Feb 3, 2015, at 1:57 AM, Diego Cantalupi tio...@gmail.com wrote: What I'm looking for is not lute as an obbligato continuo instrument, but as a solo instrument (like Bach's Johannespassion). There’s Il Sacrifizio di Abramo by Camilla de Rossi (1708), which has concerto-like movements for

[LUTE] John Bilezikjian (1948-2105)

2015-01-29 Thread howard posner
John Bilezikjian, a phenomenal oud player and really cool guy, died of kidney disease on January 19. Some of us will recall his appearances at Donna Curry’s seminars in the 1980s, and memorable jam sessions with Jurgen Hubscher at John's house afterwards, while his wife stuffed us full of

[LUTE] Re: 16th century tuning and stringing

2015-01-18 Thread howard posner
On Jan 18, 2015, at 5:37 AM, Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote: The issue of voice-leading is important in the identification of which pieces may or may not have used octave stringing, but it is not a simple matter of the octaves being constantly present or absent - a good player

[LUTE] Re: 16th century tuning and stringing

2015-01-18 Thread howard posner
On Jan 18, 2015, at 4:14 AM, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: But you will still hear the low G on the 6th course and the falling 7th in the bass (at least I will) Try playing and singing it. In context, with the middle G completing the run, and singer’s line doing what it does, and

[LUTE] Re: 16th century tuning and stringing

2015-01-17 Thread howard posner
On Jan 17, 2015, at 1:03 AM, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Unless I have misunderstood what you are saying. Hard to tell. I’m saying that it appears to be evidence for unison stringing on the upper five courses, and octaves on the sixth. To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: 16th century tuning and stringing

2015-01-16 Thread howard posner
On Jan 16, 2015, at 4:10 AM, Charles Mokotoff mokot...@gmail.com wrote: Martin, this quote from you: In fact there are many passages in John Johnson, Francis Cutting, Anthony Holborne and even Dowland where octaves even up to the 4th course seem to be implied... I was just

[LUTE] Re: 16th century tuning and stringing

2015-01-16 Thread howard posner
On Jan 16, 2015, at 12:49 PM, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: Dowland could have included the G on the fourth course without making it difficult to play.A His not doing so means either that he didn't care that the bass line dropped a seventh for no good reason,

[LUTE] Re: Monteverdi 1610 Vespers Et Misericordia

2014-12-30 Thread howard posner
On Dec 29, 2014, at 11:20 PM, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: Usually I'm tacet there, but the occasional conductor does asks for uncle Theo. And does that include avuncular accompaniment in the parts that are for higher voices only? To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Monteverdi 1610 Vespers Et Misericordia

2014-12-29 Thread howard posner
Has anyone ever played theorbo in this part of the Magnificat? Or does the theorbo always lay out of this medieval-sounding section? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Monteverdi 1610 Vespers Et Misericordia

2014-12-29 Thread howard posner
On Dec 29, 2014, at 11:20 PM, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: 6-part polyphony, that's rather modern for Medieval music. But mostly three parts at a time... To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: those sarabands

2014-12-19 Thread howard posner
On Dec 19, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: Mace offers quite precise instructions how to perform his sarabands and his galliards. Mace writes on page 129 of Musick’s Monument: Galliards, are Lesson of 2, or 3 Strains, but are perform'd in a Slow, and Large

[LUTE] Re: New CD by Lutz and Martina Kirchhof

2014-11-24 Thread howard posner
On Nov 24, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Charles Mokotoff mokot...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone explain...errr Chipass to me? As in “Chi passa per sta strada” Try: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-eebUidttE To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Single versus triple roses

2014-11-23 Thread howard posner
On Nov 23, 2014, at 7:37 AM, Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote: The size of the opening affects the natural resonant frequency of the body, with a smaller opening giving a lower frequency. But I invite all you proper physicists out there to explain why! Do a web searches for

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-18 Thread howard posner
My very first lute had rollers at the nut. I bought it from Kelischek in 1982 and sold it a couple of years later. Rollers solve all the sticking problems. The only disadvantage is that you can’t change the nut spacing without dismantling the nut mechanism. On Nov 18, 2014, at 7:48 AM, John

[LUTE] Re: trouble with trebles

2014-11-08 Thread howard posner
On Nov 8, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net wrote: They used to strike silently, in the darkness of the lute case, but now they are bolder and snap out in the full light of the music room. A nasty bleeding welt across my left index digit is proof enough to me that these

[LUTE] Re: Ren lute as sub for theorbo

2014-11-03 Thread howard posner
On Nov 3, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: why do you think the theorbo was ever invented? Well, one clue is that the first theorbo design was commissioned in 1595 by the Marketing Committee of the Pan-Italian Chiropractors Association. To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: looking for Oblivion

2014-10-18 Thread howard posner
On Oct 18, 2014, at 8:43 AM, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for the score of Oblivion Soave Have you checked IMSLP? There are couple of versions there. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: beginners, and practicalities of buying lutes

2014-10-16 Thread howard posner
On Oct 16, 2014, at 7:32 AM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote ADD, not change. I guess that means you can’t take the apostrophe out of “it’s,” but you can add “not everyone shares my view about how wide bridge spacing should be.” So we’re agreed, and your path is clear. No need to thank

[LUTE] Re: beginners, and practicalities of buying lutes

2014-10-15 Thread howard posner
On Oct 15, 2014, at 12:39 PM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: Actually the brouhaha was mainly about the bridge width, even before I could get to the distorted swanneck curve.. Previous discussions indicate that there’s a lot of disagreement with your view of bridge spacing; you might want to

[LUTE] Re: beginners, and practicalities of buying lutes

2014-10-15 Thread howard posner
/ls. RT On 10/15/2014 3:51 PM, howard posner wrote: On Oct 15, 2014, at 12:39 PM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: Actually the brouhaha was mainly about the bridge width, even before I could get to the distorted swanneck curve.. Previous discussions indicate that there’s a lot

[LUTE] Re: beginners, and practicalities of buying lutes

2014-10-15 Thread howard posner
I asked the point of asking for ideas if you’ve already decided you’re not going to change the thing you’re asking ideas about, even to acknowledge that some players disagree with you. On Oct 15, 2014, at 2:46 PM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: Huh? All the players I respect tend to have wider

[LUTE] Re: Marcel Proust Playing Air Lute

2014-09-20 Thread howard posner
I’m loathe to open up yet another contentious debate about performance practic, but isn’t “air” performance properly limited to performance without anything in the performer’s hands? I’m not sure it addresses the question directly, but I think any inquiry has to start with the excellent “Air

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Double Cello Concerto RV 531

2014-09-01 Thread howard posner
On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Edward C. Yong edward.y...@gmail.com wrote: Style and taste question - do you think an archlute or a baroque guitar would be better for this? Impossible to answer that question in a vacuum. It depends on your particular instruments and ability (is your guitar

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quote - Sage advice

2014-09-01 Thread howard posner
On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote: William Hogarth might have seen a need for even more police http://janeaustensworld.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/londons-street-noises-the-enraged-musician-by-william-hogarth/ We’ve had discussions here about the relative

[LUTE] Re: Bach's Concerto for Harpsichord Strings in F Minor

2014-08-20 Thread howard posner
On Aug 20, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote: Having said that, I must agree with Roman- out of character for the instrument, at least for performance. Given that it’s an oboe solo that Bach arranged for harpsichord, probably for didactic purposes, I’m not sure it makes

[LUTE] Re: Italian Theorbo: 6/8, 7/8, 8/8....

2014-08-14 Thread howard posner
On Aug 14, 2014, at 2:29 PM, R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de wrote: Poor Castaldi - according to his own engravings he played an instrument that, according to modern folklore, was a typical french theorbo (rather small, single strung with a roundish/deep body). Unless it’s the tiorbino. To

[LUTE] Re: Bernardo or Lugretia Gianoncelli?

2014-08-10 Thread howard posner
On Aug 9, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Ed Durbrow edurb...@gmail.com wrote: My 34 year old zeroes of the 1650 archlute manuscript by Gianoncelli has a page that looks like a dedication page signed Lugretia Gianoncelli. So where does the name Bernardo come from that I see in reference to Giononcell?

[LUTE] Re: Bernardo or Lugretia Gianoncelli?

2014-08-10 Thread howard posner
On Aug 10, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de wrote: Respighi arranged one of G's pieces: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQrXTGmTqb4 Actually two of them. He inserts the C major Tastegiata (faster than it would make sense to play it on the lute) as a sort of middle section

[LUTE] Re: those Pignoses!

2014-08-06 Thread howard posner
On Aug 6, 2014, at 9:12 AM, wayne cripps wst...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: So why aren't people sticking to the subject line? Perhaps because they suspect that it was concocted by a deranged person. My Pignose Hog 30 is my go to amp for playing at outdoor events! (along with a Sennheiser

[LUTE] Re: those Pegheadz!

2014-08-05 Thread howard posner
On Aug 4, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com wrote: Why doesn't anyone talk about historically informed listening? Perhaps the answer to that question can be found in Ken Burns’ 2001 PBS series about jazz, which was titled, very creatively, “Jazz.” He showed jazz pianist Cecil

[LUTE] Re: those Pignoses!

2014-08-05 Thread howard posner
On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Tobiah t...@tobiah.org wrote: Ever since grade school, I've heard that Francis Scott Key wrote the national anthem. I guess I always assumed that he wrote the music. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Anacreon_in_Heaven What's funny is that there are a lot of

[LUTE] Re: those Pignoses!

2014-08-05 Thread howard posner
On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Doug Asherman dashe...@sonic.net wrote: There's an instruction manual? Why am I spending all this money on lessons? Your question indicates a lack of experience with instruction manuals. To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: those Pignoses!

2014-08-04 Thread howard posner
On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Tobiah t...@tobiah.org wrote: I'm interested in how they played, but I like what Jimmy Hendrix did with Francis Scott Key You mean John Stafford Smith, unless you’re admiring the way Hendrix recited poetry. at the same time. Maybe a little light chorus effect

[LUTE] Re: Lute Songs on the Web

2014-08-01 Thread howard posner
On Aug 1, 2014, at 7:56 AM, Charles Mokotoff mokot...@gmail.com wrote: I must have a roomful of printed books of music, greatest hits of the era, Dowland, Campion, Ford, most of the Stainer and Bell editions. Is there a place on the internet where these are perhaps already living to

[LUTE] Re: fuzzy lute

2014-07-28 Thread howard posner
On Jul 28, 2014, at 6:39 AM, wayne cripps w...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: One of my lutes has a varnish finish, and in the humid weather the fuzz from the case lining sticks to the varnish, and gives part of the bowl a flocked look! Can you suggest a way to get the fuzz off and keep it from

[LUTE] Re: Bare spot on soundboard.

2014-07-28 Thread howard posner
On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Mayes, Joseph ma...@rowan.edu wrote: Zowie!! Just mention, in passing that one of the sacred cows is somehow not the best idea, and the floodgates open! Well, the writer said (and not in passing — it was the sole subject of his post) that resting the little

[LUTE] Re: Liuto attiorbato strings

2014-07-12 Thread howard posner
If you’re not in a hurry to get the instrument strung, you could try getting two courses based on whatever criteria you think appropriate, put them on, and see how they work. If they’re too big/tense, move them down (e.g., from ninth and tenth to tenth and eleventh) and if they’re too slack,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: redrilling bridges (was Necking with Swans or whatever)

2014-06-24 Thread howard posner
On Jun 24, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Matthew Daillie dail...@club-internet.fr wrote: Anyway, ask any reputable maker, it's not a job they enjoy doing (and I have had it done on a couple of my lutes). Some makers prefer to make a new bridge which can be glued on to the soundboard without it being

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: duos with alto recorder

2014-06-21 Thread howard posner
On Jun 21, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Ken Brodkey kbrod...@pacbell.net wrote: It looks like it's time, though, to get my act together and learn to realize figured bass. You’re going to have a busy month. To get on or off this list see list information at

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: duos with alto recorder

2014-06-20 Thread howard posner
On Jun 20, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Ken Brodkey kbrod...@pacbell.net wrote: What about flute? Can the recorder play most baroque flute music Not without major surgery on most flute parts. The alto recorder bottoms out at first-space F, while the flute goes down to D or C. To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi solo lute

2014-06-04 Thread howard posner
On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Braig, Eugene brai...@osu.edu wrote: On O'Dette's recording of the Vivaldi works with the Parley of Instruments (1986, Hyperion CDA66160), he speculated the works to designate mandolino to be intended for the five or six course mandolino (i.e.,

[LUTE] Re: Daniel Purcell Cantatas

2014-04-10 Thread howard posner
I recall playing from a published edition of his recorder music, but it was a long time ago and it may not be in print now. IMSLP has a few of his things. On Apr 9, 2014, at 10:51 PM, MANUEL MINGUILLÓN (GMAIL) maminguil...@gmail.com wrote: am in search of Daniel Purcell's music. Does

[LUTE] Re: Ornamental Lutes

2014-03-18 Thread howard posner
On Mar 18, 2014, at 6:06 AM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: But worrying that you're hogging the spotlight is a baseless fear. . . . . . . What about having parity with the keyboard is there to fear? We’re not discussing fear of hogging the spotlight or of achieving parity with

[LUTE] Re: Ornamental Lutes

2014-03-17 Thread howard posner
Chris, it took you three and a half hours to join battle this time. You must be slowing in your old age. On Mar 17, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: There is no historical evidence implying that plucked continuo players didn't want or expect to be heard even

[LUTE] Re: backpacks for lutes?

2014-03-06 Thread howard posner
On Mar 6, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Garry Bryan gar...@netins.net wrote: I'm still trying to figure out why they keep their house guitarist in a box, because I'm sure that they weren't referring to the Roosebeck when they mentioned playing right out of the box.” If you wait for the end of the

[LUTE] Re: De Visee

2014-03-02 Thread howard posner
On Mar 1, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: before you know it, it's a known fact that de Visee was from Portugual. My offhand remark that started this thread was based on a known fact that I gleaned from the liner notes of a Segovia LP (you may commence

[LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise

2014-02-28 Thread howard posner
On Feb 28, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: I think you are being disingenious. What Satoh actually says is This is all my imagination and conjecture, based on the few documents concerning De Visee's life. How is the reader supposed to know what is based on

[LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise

2014-02-27 Thread howard posner
On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Jean-Marie Poirier jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Robert de Visée was obviously one of the best on the guitar, theorbo and lute of his time, but his French grammar was not really spotless... ;-) He was a Spaniard, and he used Google Translate. -- To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: A Dowland question

2014-02-27 Thread howard posner
You might start with IMSLP. If you go to this page, for example, you can find all the songs in the First Booke set in score: http://imslp.org/wiki/The_Firste_Booke_of_Songes_(Dowland,_John) On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Jörg Hilbert imap hilbert.jo...@t-online.de wrote: Dear collected

[LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise

2014-02-25 Thread howard posner
On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Jean-Marie Poirier jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Here is the passage in question (I am confident that you can read French) : For those who can’t, I will helpfully offer a translation from Google Language Tools. I think it speaks for itself. He had some Italian

[LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise

2014-02-25 Thread howard posner
On Feb 25, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Jean-Marie Poirier jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Thank you Howard but Google is not completely up to point. I’m shocked — SHOCKED -- to hear it. At first sight but a bit more accurate than Google I hope ;-) ! Sorry, but there’s simply no way to improve on “the

[LUTE] Dampening frets?

2014-02-10 Thread howard posner
On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:27 AM, William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: My usual plan of attack on a loose gut fret is first of all to dampen it a little. Gut, unlike nylon, tightens when damp - though it may take a day or two of repeated dampening for it to achieve the desired

[LUTE] Re: Dampening frets?

2014-02-10 Thread howard posner
On Feb 10, 2014, at 11:41 AM, William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi Howard, I wipe them with a slightly damp (not dripping wet) cloth. That might not suit some neck finishes, but I haven't had any problems with mine. Bill Hmm. I might muster the courage to try a

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-02-03 Thread howard posner
On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net wrote: that is not related to turbans or theorbos, but rather to the latin TURBARE, to BOTHER. If you dismiss out of hand any relationship between theorbos and “bother,” you lack sufficient experience with theorbos. -- To

[LUTE] Re: Say love and Queen Elizabeth

2014-01-26 Thread howard posner
On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Stewart McCoy lu...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: I can understand the reticence of Ralf and Howard in accepting musical allusions in the music of John Dowland. Of course there will be the same group of notes which appear in other compositions, a point Howard makes well,

[LUTE] Re: Say love and Queen Elizabeth

2014-01-23 Thread howard posner
On Jan 23, 2014, at 3:01 PM, R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de wrote: if you exdend it and go up again you end up with something often called Pachelbel-Sequence. A poster on another list some years ago asserted that Pachelbel’s canon is based on the Aria del Granduca. If you look at sequences

[LUTE] Re: 2014

2013-12-31 Thread howard posner
On Dec 31, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Mayes, Joseph ma...@rowan.edu wrote: I'll add my bit - Happy!! Happy!! Well, if you must: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nlfUAsTZXo -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I

2013-12-22 Thread howard posner
On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: This would make sense only if there were a single 20th-century aesthetic preference. Who is to say there is not? Those alive during a historical period are too sensitive to the trees of plurality to discern the

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I

2013-12-20 Thread howard posner
On Dec 19, 2013, at 5:27 AM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: This also fits in nicely with Richard Taruskin's often stated thesis that early music performance practice today is really a modern fabrication that seeks to apply 20th (now 21st) century aesthetic preferences

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-18 Thread howard posner
On Dec 18, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Jarosław Lipski jaroslawlip...@wp.pl wrote: Bach was known for bullying kids from his choir Really? Do you have a source for this? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-18 Thread howard posner
On Dec 18, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Geoff Gaherty ge...@gaherty.ca wrote: I recall reading that he was fired from an early gig for improper relations with one of the women in the choir. I don't doubt you read something of the sort, as there is a lot of rubbish written about Bach. He was reproved

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed we got so far away from the [LUTE]-forum

2013-12-18 Thread howard posner
On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote: Is it just me, or is there not something ironic about a serious minded 21st century LUTE-list member finding a great 20th century musical icon (think of him what one will otherwise) outdated? Not at all. Implicit in the

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