[LUTE] Re: Silly question...

2015-04-11 Thread David van Ooijen
Completely OT. Years ago I had a gig in Tehran, and when I wasA studyingA archlute in myA hotel room I hear guitar playing in the room next to me. It turned out to be Lily. Chance encounter.A On that same trip I played with tar and setar players. A few more frets indeed ... I Have a

[LUTE] Re: Silly question...

2015-04-10 Thread Ron Andrico
Caldibi Castigliano, the first piece in Dalza,1508, is apparently an Arabic tune. RA Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 12:21:51 +0200 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: messina.calog...@free.fr Subject: [LUTE] Silly question... Bonjour `a tous, Anyone know if

[LUTE] Re: Silly question...

2015-04-10 Thread Messina Calogero
Thanks Ron, but I meant the kind of music played still today on the Oud De : Ron Andrico [mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com] Envoye : vendredi 10 avril 2015 13:03 A : Messina Calogero; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : RE: [LUTE] Silly question... Caldibi Castigliano, the first piece

[LUTE] Re: Silly question...

2015-04-10 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
Paulo Galvao had an arrangement of something of the sort for oud and lute duo, 10 or so years ago. Otherwise I'd say the idea of arranging microtonal fretless music for a diatonic fretted instrument is just implausible. RT On 4/10/2015 7:09 AM, Messina Calogero wrote: Thanks Ron, but I

[LUTE] Re: Silly question...

2015-04-10 Thread Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
not that I know of, most arabic music, except Andalucian Algerian and Morrocan music uses quarter tones. A lot of arabic music is transmitted orally. the one that is written uses regular notation with special flat and sharps characters to indicate the quarter tones. Here is a site

[LUTE] Re: Silly question...

2015-04-10 Thread Christopher Wilke
Nigel North, in his liner notes, posits that Weiss's L'Infidele sonata was composed with the Ottoman siege of Vienna in mind. He claims that the augmented intervals in the musette and minuet are references to Arabic music. I'm not sure I buy that aurally. However, Weiss was

[LUTE] Re: Silly question...

2015-04-10 Thread Geoff Gaherty
On 2015-04-10 8:55 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote: However, Weiss was certainly employed by the Sobieski house in Rome and it was Jan Sobieski who had previously lead the army that broke the Ottoman siege. As a lutenist and astronomer I'm always interested in links between my two

[LUTE] Re: Silly question...

2015-04-10 Thread Messina Calogero
Cc : praelu...@hotmail.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Re: Silly question... Nigel North, in his liner notes, posits that Weiss's L'Infidele sonata was composed with the Ottoman siege of Vienna in mind. He claims that the augmented intervals in the musette and minuet

[LUTE] Re: Silly question...

2015-04-10 Thread Helen Atkinson
: [5]messina.calog...@free.fr CcA : [6]praelu...@hotmail.com; [7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu ObjetA : [LUTE] Re: Silly question... A A Nigel North, in his liner notes, posits that Weiss's L'Infidele A A sonata was composed with the Ottoman siege of Vienna in mind. He claims

[LUTE] Re: Silly question...

2015-04-10 Thread Dan Winheld
Good thing about the lute; gut frets can easily be removed, or added. Might drive yourself crazy tying in quarter tone frets, but such things have been done. Lily Afshar, Iranian classical guitarist, had some quarter tone frets added to one of her guitars at certain strategic spots. Dan On