[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-23 Thread Ed Durbrow
A technique Ray Nurse suggested is to put a little toothpaste on a string and pull the string back and forth in the groove. This not only makes the groove round but leaves the nut whiter and brighter with that fresh clean smell too! On Nov 20, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-19 Thread John Mardinly
Dan; Can you elaborate on this material/technique? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab:

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-19 Thread Dan Winheld
John- What technique? I was only joking; I simply count on a hard, highly polished nut- ESPECIALLY polished smooth in the nut grooves, and the grooves themselves are as shallow as one can get away with to hold the strings in place; a deep valley can hold strings up by too much

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-19 Thread Sean Smith
Yes Dan, V is for Very bad idea. Metal-wound would eventually cut their own channel though... maybe. The best round channel is one that is a slightly larger diameter than your string. Think of a U-shape channel semi-circle in shape that may (or may not) include vertical walls. While it is as

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-19 Thread Geoff Gaherty
On 2014-11-19, 1:52 PM, Sean Smith wrote: *comparison for our purposes; metaphor if John Milton had had an MG. That reminds me of the bad joke I heard at an LSA seminar many years ago: Why did Francesco drive a Mercedes when Dowland only drove a Volkswagen? Because Francesco liked

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-19 Thread Sean Smith
There is evidence JD sometimes borrowed Lady Clifton's Sprite. [backs cautiously towards door] On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Geoff Gaherty wrote: On 2014-11-19, 1:52 PM, Sean Smith wrote: *comparison for our purposes; metaphor if John Milton had had an MG. That reminds me of the bad joke I

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-18 Thread John Mardinly
I built a Roller Nut for my Rubio lute, which used wound Pyramid strings, many years ago. It was not too difficult because I had access to a dental drill that I used as a lathe. The rollers were delrin and the 'axle' was a piece of unwound piano string. It worked like a charm. I can

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-18 Thread John Mardinly
Dan; Can you elaborate? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253 (does not work in TEM labs) Titan Lab: [3]480-727-5651 NION UltraSTEM Lab: [4]480-727-5652 JEOL ARM 200 Lab:

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-18 Thread Charles Mokotoff
I'd love to see a photo of that. On Nov 18, 2014, at 10:49 AM, John Mardinly john.mardi...@asu.edu wrote: Dan; Can you elaborate? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-18 Thread howard posner
My very first lute had rollers at the nut. I bought it from Kelischek in 1982 and sold it a couple of years later. Rollers solve all the sticking problems. The only disadvantage is that you can’t change the nut spacing without dismantling the nut mechanism. On Nov 18, 2014, at 7:48 AM, John

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-18 Thread Rockford Mjos
Another solution for sticking strings at the nut was offered in the Belgian Lute Society newsletter in 2007. http://lute-academy.be/CMSimple/downloads/Geluit39.pdf The instructions start on page 18. If you don’t read Dutch or French, the photos are pretty clear: 1. Mark the string at the point

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-11 Thread Sean Smith
Hi Herbert, I have never heard of this problem on the 4th course with gut so I'll assume you use metal wound strings. I'll admit it's an assumption that could be false or you may be using a plastic of some sort. It would be helpful to know in any event. Using a string made up of coils that

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-11 Thread Sean Smith
For the record, Herbert, what are the materials of your nut and strings in question? Sean On Nov 11, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Herbert Ward wrote: The bent-back pegbox means that a lute has 7.5 times as much friction at the nut as a guitar, taking angles of 10 degrees for the guitar and 80 for

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-11 Thread Michał Jasionowski
Just to clarify one thing - nut's resistance to any damage caused by the strings depends on its curvature rather than the angle of the pegbox (at least in theory). So in order to prevent printed coils, it should be sufficient to replace the nut with the one that is wider and less

[LUTE] Re: Technique for friction at the nut.

2014-11-11 Thread Dan Winheld
Squirrels can't hold on to them- boxer shorts can't contain them- but lutenists LOVE them SLIPPERY NUTS! On 11/11/2014 8:14 AM, Sean Smith wrote: Hi Herbert, I have never heard of this problem on the 4th course with gut so I'll assume you use metal wound strings. I'll admit it's an