I doubt it. The lute was not a lower-class instrument, and a streetwalker
would not likely have one. It would be an expensive way to advertise in any
event. I suppose a courtesan might acquire one, but she wouldn’t be parading
around with it on the street; her services were, in theory,
Good one, Roman! It is along the lines of Corneille's "l'effet se
recule" ("les fesses reculent"), or Swift's "Master Bates".
On 08/10/2018 04:06 AM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
Another Purcell item, priceless-
“On the night he was wedded quoth Inigo Jones etc,
...in I go Jones!”
Sent from
You're right Jim,
and many paintings by renowned artists show bawdy stuff to back up your
claim. Why would a musician not tackle the same stuff?
Also, in such dire times some fun would surely have been welcome.
I am surprised about the lack of common sense applied to history. These
were not
I'd say it's more than likely named for prostitutes, and Purcell very
likely wrote the dirty stuff, especially after the Chapel Royal purge
forced him to chase other income streams⦠Plus wan't he supposed to be
rather fond of singing in the pub?
I think we often underestimate the
well, there are still "two-bit" deals out there, but those are too
risky, in this day and age.
RT
On 8/10/2018 10:41 AM, Daniel Winheld wrote:
I can't even remember when 2 cents would get me anything at all, with
a lady and her lute.
DW
On 8/10/2018 7:38 AM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
You
LOL
On ven, 10 ago 2018 16:38:14 +0200 wrote
You have truly long reaching memories!
RT
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> On Aug 10, 2018, at 8:13 AM, Luca Manassero <[1]l...@manassero.net>
wrote:
>
> As far as I remember, a lady walking with a lute in Venezia (XVIth
I can't even remember when 2 cents would get me anything at all, with a
lady and her lute.
DW
On 8/10/2018 7:38 AM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
You have truly long reaching memories!
RT
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On Aug 10, 2018, at 8:13 AM, Luca Manassero wrote:
As far as I remember, a lady
You have truly long reaching memories!
RT
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> On Aug 10, 2018, at 8:13 AM, Luca Manassero wrote:
>
> As far as I remember, a lady walking with a lute in Venezia (XVIth
> century) was considered a prostitute.
> My 2 cents,
> Luca
> On ven, 10 ago 2018 12:57:44
As far as I remember, a lady walking with a lute in Venezia (XVIth
century) was considered a prostitute.
My 2 cents,
Luca
On ven, 10 ago 2018 12:57:44 +0200
r.turov...@gmail.com wrote
Lute in a brothel was a large Dutch sarcasm, lute being a symbol of
domestic
Another Purcell item, priceless-
“On the night he was wedded quoth Inigo Jones etc,
..in I go Jones!”
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> On Aug 10, 2018, at 5:37 AM, Alain Veylit wrote:
>
> I seem to remember reading about Purcell being particularly targeted by this
> kind of mirthy-ful mis-attribution.
Once, Twice, Thrice has unmistakable Purcell musicality. So...
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> On Aug 10, 2018, at 5:37 AM, Alain Veylit wrote:
>
> I seem to remember reading about Purcell being particularly targeted by this
> kind of mirthy-ful mis-attribution. My memory can well be wrong. Most of
>
Lute in a brothel was a large Dutch sarcasm, lute being a symbol of domestic
harmony in the baroque visual symbolism.
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> On Aug 9, 2018, at 6:25 PM, Alain Veylit wrote:
>
> There is a piece in Dd.2.11 entitled: "Catin" (by Orlando di Lasso!).
> Yesterday I saw one entitled
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 at 17:38, Alain Veylit
<[1]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote:
Just imagine if J.S. Bach was credited by a contemporary publisher
with
a song entitled "Once, twice, thrice, I Julia tried", would that
raise
an eye brow?? Just curious: did Mozart
I seem to remember reading about Purcell being particularly targeted by
this kind of mirthy-ful mis-attribution. My memory can well be wrong.
Most of Purcell's music was published posthumously and it was very
prolific (800 works for someone who died at age 36). Playford, the
publisher of the
ok, you win *sigh*
Am 10.08.2018 um 09:35 schrieb howard posner:
On Aug 10, 2018, at 12:07 AM, Tristan von Neumann
wrote:
We already established that Lasso was a serious composer, and that serious does
not mean stick up his ass.
We established that you don’t know the meaning of the
> On Aug 10, 2018, at 12:07 AM, Tristan von Neumann
> wrote:
>
> We already established that Lasso was a serious composer, and that serious
> does not mean stick up his ass.
We established that you don’t know the meaning of the English word “serious.”
> I asked what adjective you wish to
I wonder how you always choose to misunderstand.
It's not humorous, just annoying.
We already established that Lasso was a serious composer, and that
serious does not mean stick up his ass.
I asked what adjective you wish to apply to describe Lasso.
I suggested dedicated, which can also imply
> On Aug 9, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Tristan von Neumann
> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I'm German.
>
> What would you choose?
> "Dedicated" seems more like it?
No, someone with a stick up his ass is not “dedicated.”
Try stuffy, priggish, prim, rigid, pompous, prissy, stiff, starched,
sanctimonious,
song. (?)
Dr. Franz Mechsner
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franz.mechs...@gmx.de
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Von: "Alain Veylit"
An: "lutelist Net"
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: prostitution
Ther
Sorry, I'm German.
What would you choose?
"Dedicated" seems more like it?
Am 10.08.2018 um 05:48 schrieb howard posner:
On Aug 9, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Tristan von Neumann
wrote:
I meant serious in the sense that he had a stick up his a**.
That’s not what “serious” means.
To get on or
> On Aug 9, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Tristan von Neumann
> wrote:
>
> I meant serious in the sense that he had a stick up his a**.
That’s not what “serious” means.
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I meant serious in the sense that he had a stick up his a**.
He certainly seems like a funny guy to hang around with.
The output of Sacred music does not detract from that. :)
Am 10.08.2018 um 05:13 schrieb howard posner:
On Aug 9, 2018, at 7:34 PM, Tristan von Neumann
wrote:
Lasso was
> On Aug 9, 2018, at 7:34 PM, Tristan von Neumann
> wrote:
>
> Lasso was *not* a serious composer.
Does this mean he never wrote a closet raga?
> He composed the announcement music for the "Gümpelsbrunn Nose Dance" (an
> early teaser trailer for an event...), but the festival is probably
Lasso was *not* a serious composer.
He composed the announcement music for the "Gümpelsbrunn Nose Dance" (an
early teaser trailer for an event...), but the festival is probably
legendary because no town named Gümpelsbrunn is known. :)
Also, he wrote a letter to his Patron, the Duke of
Indeed. There is a famous alexandrin in one of Corneille's tragedies:
"Et le desir s'accroit quand l'effet se recule". A line that is very,
very ambiguous phonetically...
On 08/09/2018 05:00 PM, howard posner wrote:
obody’s serious all the time.
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> On Aug 9, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Alain Veylit wrote:
>
> I thought Lasso was a rather serious composer...
Nobody’s serious all the time.
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There is a piece in Dd.2.11 entitled: "Catin" (by Orlando di Lasso!).
Yesterday I saw one entitled "la pute". What are the odds that neither
title would not refer to their modern meaning of "prostitute"?
This also reminds me of the not so secret behind "green sleeves". Dutch
paintings show many
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