Does any one know where i can buy/download Dowland's books? The
versions on the net are written for 8 or more course while I'm playing
7 like our not so dear Mr. Dowland.
Need it for a project.
Thank you all and have a really nice day!
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Thanks Ed and David (and other comments too). Refining my comments a little,
I would say that for the solo work I would be happy with a lower pitch, so
tuning to F would be no big deal. I was worried about asking a soprano or
tenor to sing a tone lower, especially those who have already learned
getting off from the list todaydon't worry
p.s.
just because my mailbox is full of interesting topics
i fear to become smarter...
enjoy
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On Wednesday 02 April 2008 08:23, Omer katzir rattled on the keyboard:
Does any one know where i can buy/download Dowland's books? The
versions on the net are written for 8 or more course while I'm playing
7 like our not so dear Mr. Dowland.
Need it for a project.
Thank you all and have a
Does 'getting smarter' from our e-mails, mean he will return one day - with
some polished 'netiquette'?
Ron (UK)
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They have a very good resale value :)
dt
At 07:47 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote:
Do you guys like Larry Brown's lutes? im looking at his Venere G Lute 8c.
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On Mar 19, 2008, at 3:35 AM, Stephen Arndt wrote:
David Tayler recently recommended recording at 48Hz/24-bit. As far
as I can tell, the Edirol R-1 that I use will only record at
44.1Hz, though it can be set to 24-bit. The trebles sounded a
little distorted to me, and I am wondering
Why is who's better so important? Is this a race?
Gary
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=lEyk0jOIagw
thanks Val !
The big problem is having a capo which provides enough pressure to
hold
all the strings down without buzzing.
Or conversely, too much pressure. You need a capo that you can adjust
the pressure of. The Dunlop takes a lot of work to adjust,
particularly when you think that every fret is
Rob
Although this is slightly at a side issue to your question, it could
nevertheless be helpful; I asked Jacob Heringman whether a Gerle or
Venere 7c could be used to cover some Italian and later Elizabethan
music, I wondered whether the smaller number of ribs of the Bologna
style Gerle
Rob ( and Ed) and all
Although this is slightly a side issue to your question, this
could nevertheless be helpful; I asked Jacob Heringman whether a
Gerle or Venere 7c could be used to cover some Italian and later
Elizabethan music, I wondered whether the smaller number of ribs of
On 02/04/2008, LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS: the shoulder is not troubling you anymore, especially with the new
theorbo?
Thanks for asking, David. Oddly, or not, I have less trouble with the
theorbo. Must be using the muscles in a different way. I now play about an
hour a day, in
Confession time: I was originally thinking of a 7c, then played Malcolm
Prior's 10c (before it was shipped to Germany), and decided on one of those,
at 64cms. Now I'm thinking 7c again...I drive myself and everyone around me
crazy sometimes. So what do I want it for? I don't have a lute in
No, it hasn't. Please send me it privately or try again to the list. I'm
very much interested in what you have to say, Stewart.
Rob
On 02/04/2008, Stewart McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Test 17
My message sent yesterday to Rob MacKillop about 64 cm lutes does not
seem to have come through.
A couple of folks have written to me off-list suggesting an 8c. Sorry, not
interested. Just don't like them. Neither one thing or another. I'll go
either 7 or 10. Probably 7.
Thanks for the suggestions, nonetheless!
Cheers,
Rob
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Why is that so, Rob ? Did one of them bite you when you were a child ;-) ?
Best,
Jean-Marie
=== 02-04-2008 13:38:45 ===
A couple of folks have written to me off-list suggesting an 8c. Sorry, not
interested. Just don't like them. Neither one thing or another. I'll go
either 7 or 10.
Dear Anthony, Rob, et al.,
My 10c is indeed at 67cm, but it always lived between 392 415; of course
with synthetics you could tune a lute like this up to 440 - this is why such
a lute is a practical (if sometimes inauthentic and less than musically
ideal) solution for those who have to accompany
Rob
That is the second time a message has shot forth without me clicking
on the send button. I don't know what is up.
I had begun to say .
I entirely agree with you. The 8c is not a good solution. I am just
wondering whether, if you wanted more Dowland than Franceso, a 9/10 c
lute might
Dear Rob,
Why do you need to be at A=440? Many singers would be grateful, if they
could sing those top gs down a semitone or two. So would some members
of the audience.
I have a 60 cm lute in g' at A=440, and although it is a nice instrument
with a sweet tone, it is a bit weedy for giving a
Benjamin and Rob
Oups, sorry Benjamin, I am afraid I got part of that wrong. I think
this confusion came from what Martin Haycock said to me about using
such a lute as a G lute at 440Hz. He was obviously talking in general.
You may also have called it a G lute, but G at 392 presumably.
Jean-Marie
Rob was wanting to find a compromise that would allow him to play 6c
italian Renaissance music as well as late Dowland. A 7c can manage
that repertoire, but I think the extra course of an 8c would give too
confused a sound for 6c music.
Just as Rob is doing now, I was
Dear Rob,
I sent this message yesterday evening, but it seems to have got lost in
the ether. In fact it duplicates what has already been said by others,
but I'll send it again anyway.
All the best,
Stewart.
Dear Rob,
Why do you need to be at A=440? Many singers would be grateful, if they
No Stewart, it didn't get lost : I got it in my mailbox a couple of hours ago.
It just took its time to fly across the Channel AND the Atlantic !
Best wishes,
Jean-Marie
=== 02-04-2008 17:22:57 ===
Dear Rob,
I sent this message yesterday evening, but it seems to have got lost in
Anthony and Rob,
Why such a disdain for 8 c. lutes ? I have one and will soon have a new one
from David Van Edwards and I love the instrument : well-balanced, convenient
for most of the repertoire from 1560 to 1620. It puzzles me to see you reject
is as you do...
Of course it doesn't deprive
Thanks Anthony for these precisions. My original message seems to have reached
the list with some delay, which doesn't really matter anyway ;-) !
All the best,
Jean-Marie
=== 02-04-2008 17:01:01 ===
Jean-Marie
Rob was wanting to find a compromise that would allow him to play 6c
Hello to Everyone
My name is Kerry Cox and I've just joined the list and am new to the lute
world. After some research, I've decided to order a lute from Larry Brown and
am looking forward to all things related to this wonderful instrument.
I have been a guitar player for many years and I
The bass viol part for this piece doubles the bass line of the lute
part!
Eric Crouch
On 2 Apr 2008, at 17:32, Bernd Haegemann wrote:
Hi!
http://www.gerbode.net/ft2/composers/Pilkington/pdf/pavan_for_lute_and_viol.pdf
sounds promising, but where is the viol part?
best wishes
Bernd
Hi, all,
If it is the books of songs that you're looking for, Dover Publications has (or
had) an inexpensive modern edition; complete, 2 books to the volume. They
include original ( i.e., modern typeset) tab, staff notation for capoed
guitar with F# 3rd, and voice. Very nice, as these things
44.1 and 48 are not twice the frequency of human hearing, that
distinction is reserved for 88.2 and 96.
The Fostex is one of the best flash recorders, it had better preamps
and converters than the competition, its only drawback is that
headphone amp is a little cheap, but that in no way
Actually, the standard accepted values for the human hearing range are
approximately 20Hz to 20KHz. The upper limit declines with age...
Grant
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:08 AM, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
44.1 and 48 are not twice the frequency of human hearing, that
distinction is
I don't recommend 8 courses
9 courses would be a good choice for Dowland
7 and 9 would cover almost all of the pieces you mention, and is
better for the very early Dowland pieces, plus the chromatic pieces.
Isn't there a Star Trek character named 7 of 9? Surely it is a sign.
I think the 9 course
Broude Brothers Performer's Facsimile Series--lute song books by Dowland and
others as well as Robert Dowland's Varietie of Lute Lessons. They used to be
priced around $18-25 per book.
Broude does have the occasional sale where you can save 10-20% if you spend
enough $$, but OMI should
That is correct, so 44.1 is not twice the standard, it corresponds
roughly to the standard. 88.2 is twice the standard.
I have met people who can hear 22K, which is roughly recording at
48kHz. Twice that standard is 96kHz.
However, 48 has the added benefit of reproducing harmonic artifacts
in
Thanks to everyone for their input. I've decided instead to get a Fender
Stratocaster - covers most things from Francesco to Jimi, and costs a lot
less.
Jean-Marie - I used to have an 8c (seems like a thousand years ago) on which
(at the advice of Jacob Lindberg) I swaped the bottom two courses
Why play a single manual harpsichord, when two is more?
It is a good question, is there more essential lutiness in a niner?
I think so. but that is subjective.
Historically, you can argue pretty persuasively for 9, but there sure
were ten course instruments as well.
Also, is a good 10c better
On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:27 PM, David Tayler wrote:
...Historically, you can argue pretty persuasively for 9, but there
sure
were ten course instruments as well.
Also, is a good 10c better than a bad 9c, if makers have more
experience with 10?
...which one is right for the music?
For
Fine with me, David. That's a deal ! ;-)
Jean-Marie
=== 02-04-2008 21:05:30 ===
I have a suggestion that will solve all our problems. How about
this: on odd-numbered years the 8- course will be proclaimed the
best all-purpose renaissance lute, and on even-numbered years the
Here are links for the Dover editions:
http://store.doverpublications.com/048629935x.html
http://store.doverpublications.com/0486422445.html
Jeffrey Noonan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/2/2008 1:12 pm
Broude Brothers Performer's Facsimile Series--lute song books by Dowland and
others as well as Robert
Here is the OMI list. They have all the books of ayres, plus
other things.
http://www.omifacsimiles.com/cats/lute.pdf
I may have mentioned this. The third boook was offered for sale
by an Ameriucan antiquarian for $15,000 and a few years later,
marked down for quick sale to $13,500. I
I think there are only two of LOST
Lachrimae or Seven Tears,
each different.
dt
At 02:37 PM 4/2/2008, you wrote:
Here is the OMI list. They have all the books of ayres, plus
other things.
http://www.omifacsimiles.com/cats/lute.pdf
I may have mentioned this. The third boook was offered for
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