[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-20 Thread David Tayler
Come on down and we will barbecue trout with fresh rosemary. Talk about gout! dt At 08:26 PM 6/19/2008, you wrote: Good question. The conclusion is that there is no conclusion based on scansion. French 'lyrisme' is not difficult to grasp but you need to have a working knowledge of the

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-20 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 19 juin 08 à 23:59, Mathias Rösel a écrit : I for one learned a lot by intabulating harpsichord music by Nicolas Lebegue (1637, 1st print of harpsichord music in France). To me, French baroque tunes in lute or harpsichord music are deeply affiliated to oratorical singing. There's a gesture

[LUTE] copyright infringement for tempus est iocundum

2008-06-20 Thread bill kilpatrick
greetings - i recorded a video on youtube of my performance of tempus est iocundum from the 13th cent. carmina burana collection of songs.-! as i understand it, all songs in the collection are anonymous - some of which were used by carl orff for his orchestration.-! the video has been

[LUTE] Re: copyright infringement for tempus est iocundum

2008-06-20 Thread dc
bill kilpatrick écrit: i recorded a video on youtube of my performance of tempus est iocundum from the 13th cent. carmina burana collection of songs.-! as i understand it, all songs in the collection are anonymous - some of which were used by carl orff for his orchestration.-! the video has

[LUTE] Re: Fly Foot Meantone

2008-06-20 Thread LGS-Europe
dt wrote: I have been using David van Ooijen's system for some time now and it works perfectly. Glad it worked for you. Sounds like an advertisement actually, so here's my part of the commercial: I've updated bit by bit my DIY mean-tone page, included calculations for 1/6 pythagorean comma

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month for June

2008-06-20 Thread Rob MacKillop
Really beautiful, Martin. A fine piece and very fine playing. Isn't the Internet a wonderful thing when used positvely and creatively? And what a wonderful resource your website is already, with more to come. Keep up the good work! Rob McKillop 2008/6/20 Martin Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-20 Thread Jorge Torres
Well, if we're talking about the article French Lyricism in 17th century pi=E8ces de luth, by yours truly, the conclusion is as follows: In order to understand the concept of French lyricism we need to know what the French considered good melody and how it is present in their airs. An

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-20 Thread chriswilke
David, et al, Here's a hypothetical: Imagine that a few hundred years from now NO audio recordings of jazz have survived, just some good written descriptions, teach yourself to play jazz saxophone/guitar/tuba method books, and a fair number of lead sheets. What kind of jazz would our

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month for June

2008-06-20 Thread Stephen Arndt
Dear Martin, Once again, a very beautiful piece and exquisitely played. Tell me, how did you finger the chord on the third beat of measure thirty-eight? Did you hold down the notes on the second and third strings with the second finger amd use the third finger on the fifth string (which I

[LUTE] Gypsies Lilt - video

2008-06-20 Thread Rob MacKillop
Two pieces from the Rowallan ms, the weird Gypsies Lilt, and the beautiful I Long For Thy Virginitie. Looks like I need my eighth fret tightened... http://www.vimeo.com/1204178 Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-20 Thread Mathias Rösel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Its very easy to trick oneself into believing that if you play French-style elements A, B and C the way that writers X, Y, and Z have described them that you're actually playing the style. The old ones didn't learn French style from books, afterall. Well, they

[LUTE] Lute Makeover?

2008-06-20 Thread Stephen Arndt
Dear Collective Wisdom, In my closet I have a 7-course lute that I bought when I lived in Austria in the early 1980s. I played it for about three years, and then put it away for well over a decade when professional responsibilities left me no time for playing. When I started playing again, I

[LUTE] Re: Gypsies Lilt - video

2008-06-20 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Lovely! Two of my favorites from that body of repertoire. Eugene At 11:03 AM 6/20/2008, Rob MacKillop wrote: Two pieces from the Rowallan ms, the weird Gypsies Lilt, and the beautiful I Long For Thy Virginitie. Looks like I need my eighth fret tightened... http://www.vimeo.com/1204178 Rob

[LUTE] Late 19th-century film of man playing lute

2008-06-20 Thread Rob MacKillop
Very rare footage: http://www.vimeo.com/1204502 Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Late 19th-century film of man playing lute

2008-06-20 Thread Doc Rossi
I thought it might have been Rob McBloch at first - who later had a sex change - but I think you're right. On Jun 20, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: Incredible ! He looks exactly like Rob MacDolmetsch... :-) Jean-Marie === 20-06-2008 18:21:37 === Very rare footage:

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-20 Thread David Tayler
I think the good Jazz transcriptions are pretty good, and there are lots of them, but would you want to live in an imaginary world with no Jazz recordings? If you did, would you prefer the transcriptions to no Jazz at all? In the case of the brouderie sources, we have essentially

[LUTE] Re: Gypsies Lilt - video

2008-06-20 Thread David Tayler
Nice video, cool ornaments; beautiful sound. dt At 08:03 AM 6/20/2008, you wrote: Two pieces from the Rowallan ms, the weird Gypsies Lilt, and the beautiful I Long For Thy Virginitie. Looks like I need my eighth fret tightened... http://www.vimeo.com/1204178 Rob -- To get on or off this list

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-20 Thread Doc Rossi
David, would you care to give us a reading list of what you consider to be the most important works for learning about the interpretation of this music? Doc On Jun 20, 2008, at 7:56 PM, David Tayler wrote: I think the good Jazz transcriptions are pretty good, and there are lots of them,

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-20 Thread Roman Turovsky
You should start with http://www.amazon.fr/Cyrano-Bergerac-Edmond-Rostand/dp/2266152173/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1213986985sr=1-3 or http://www.amazon.fr/Fleurs-du-Mal-Charles-Baudelaire/dp/2253007102/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1213987081sr=1-2 you should also, at you own risk, try

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-20 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_literature_of_the_17th_century A good overview. RT - Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Doc Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, June 20,

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-20 Thread David Rastall
On Jun 20, 2008, at 1:56 PM, David Tayler wrote: This is all basic stuff. why don't they know it? I'd like your take on this loaded question: why should they? DR [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] cheap 7-course

2008-06-20 Thread Doc Rossi
Perhaps this might be of interest to someone: http://www.palmguitars.nl/page.php?cat_id=24 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-20 Thread chriswilke
--- David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the good Jazz transcriptions are pretty good, and there are lots of them, but would you want to live in an imaginary world with no Jazz recordings? If you did, would you prefer the transcriptions to no Jazz at all? I'd prefer a world

[LUTE] Re: Martin's piece of the month

2008-06-20 Thread adS
Michael Fink wrote: RE the Spanish Pavan --- If you want English versions, then Julia Craig-McFeely comes to the rescue. If you will go to http://www.ramesescats.co.uk/thesis/, the index of her dissertation, the Appendices links will give you pdf files containing a reference for every piece and

[LUTE] Spanish Pavan

2008-06-20 Thread Peter Martin
There's an article by Diana Poulton on the Spanish Pavan in the Lute Society Journal 1961, with a long list of sources (including some which aren't on Rainer's list). Chris Goodwin still has copies for sale at a modest price. The piece featured in the baroque guitar repertoire, too. There's a

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month for June

2008-06-20 Thread Martin Shepherd
Thanks, Bernd - I thought of our previous conversation about this piece when I chose it - it seemed so obvious that I should publish it, with the evidence of its derivation from the motet. The lute is my old Gerle, made in 1985, string length 60cm, strung entirely in gut with a Larson Pistoy

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month for June

2008-06-20 Thread David Tayler
Gee what an annoying chord that is. I have seen people play all four strings, that is two courses, with the tip of one finger. My finger is not wide enough. I accept this as more or less unchangeable, unless I go to a really narrow spacing. Thanks for the lovely edition. dt Stephen Arndt

[LUTE] Alain Veylitt

2008-06-20 Thread Stewart McCoy
I need to contact Alain Veylitt. Please could someone provide his email address. Many thanks, Stewart McCoy -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] New piece of the month for June

2008-06-20 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear David, It may be that your finger tip really is too narrow, but there might be some mileage in turning the angle of your hand, as violinists do, so that there is a wider surface area to hold down both courses. Pointing the left-hand fingers toward the bridge, is something we try to prevent

[LUTE] Re: Lute Makeover?

2008-06-20 Thread sterling price
I say go for it. I think there is much to be learned from this type of thing-converting old lutes into something new and -perhaps- better. Sterling - Original Message From: Stephen Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:12:46 AM Subject: [LUTE]

[LUTE] Re: Gypsies Lilt - video

2008-06-20 Thread jelcox
Beautiful, Rob. All of this discussion of tuning and strings is all well and good, (and interesting) but you cut to the chase with your sensitive playing and show us what it's all about. Kerry Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two pieces from the Rowallan ms, the weird Gypsies Lilt,

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-20 Thread Nancy Carlin
The Journal with the article mentioned blow in it will be in the mail (with the Quarterly that Jim Stimson edited) next week. Nancy Well, if we're talking about the article French Lyricism in 17th century pi=E8ces de luth, by yours truly, the conclusion is as follows: In order to understand