[BAROQUE-LUTE] Twelve Course Lutes

2014-05-17 Thread BENJAMIN NARVEY
Dear All, Does anybody on this list have any experience with 12c lutes? I am considering getting one if I can get the funds together and I would be grateful for any counsel drawn from actual experience. I have never even laid finger to fret on one of these lutes before, so it is a

[LUTE] Re: Video of Archlute by Koch

2014-05-17 Thread Bernd Haegemann
Nom de l'oeuvre Archiluth Numero d'inventaire E.546 Numero Chouquet 1884 C.233 Collection Musee de la musique Facteur ou Auteur [1]Koch Christoph Lieu de creation VENISE Date d'execution 1654 Historique Collection Julien Fau Description Caisse

[LUTE] Re: Video of Archlute by Koch

2014-05-17 Thread Anthony Hind
Magnificent instrument and impressive playing, thank you Benjamin for posting this! I hadn't seen it. Regards Anthony On 16 mai 2014, at 22:39, BENJAMIN NARVEY luthi...@gmail.com wrote: http://mediatheque.cite-musique.fr/masc/?INSTANCE=CITEMUSIQUEURL=/M

[LUTE] Re: Video of Archlute by Koch

2014-05-17 Thread Bruno Correia
--001a11c1e0786e649604f997b9c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting, the petit jeu is pretty short in comparisson with the grand jeu. Would this kind of instrument have enough power in an ensemble situation? Is it desirable to have such a

[LUTE] Saturday morning quote - Substance

2014-05-17 Thread Ron Andrico
The first post of our fourth year of Saturday quotes is now available [1]http://wp.me/p15OyV-11w Ron Donna -- References 1. http://wp.me/p15OyV-11w To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] 12 Course Lutes

2014-05-17 Thread BENJAMIN NARVEY
Dear All, Does anybody on this list have any experience with 12c lutes? I am considering getting one if I can get the funds together and I would be grateful for any counsel drawn from actual experience. I have never even laid finger to fret on one of these lutes before, so it is a

[LUTE] Re: 12 Course Lutes

2014-05-17 Thread Rob MacKillop
I used to have one. There is a lot of repertoire for it, though arguably none of it 'big' repertoire. There is a little bit in the Wemyss ms, Panmure 4, and there is a large number of German pieces - Reusner, for example: the printed pieces in his books are for eleven courses, but the

[LUTE] Re: 12 Course Lutes

2014-05-17 Thread Christopher Wilke
Rob, On Sat, 5/17/14, Rob MacKillop robmackil...@gmail.com wrote: Many German mss (including Weiss) have music which uses just twelve courses, enough to make me wonder if there was in Germany a 12c instrument in currency. Baron is pictured with a

[LUTE] Re: 12 Course Lutes

2014-05-17 Thread Rob MacKillop
Well, there we go :-) I'd forgotten about the Baron. Thanks, Chris. No need to think of the instrument as an almost 13c or overgrown 11c. If Baron had one, is it out of the realms of possibility that Weiss had one? The London manuscript (if I remember correctly) has a number of sonatas

[LUTE] Re: 12 Course Lutes

2014-05-17 Thread Bernd Haegemann
On 17.05.2014 22:56, Christopher Wilke wrote: Rob, On Sat, 5/17/14, Rob MacKillop robmackil...@gmail.com wrote: Many German mss (including Weiss) have music which uses just twelve courses, enough to make me wonder if there was in Germany a 12c

[LUTE] Re: 12 Course Lutes

2014-05-17 Thread G. Crona
- Original Message - From: Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de Well, I wouldn't buy a twelve pointer to play that boring stuff :-) So IYV Baron=Boring? G. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: 12 Course Lutes

2014-05-17 Thread Are Vidar Boye Hansen
When I think of 12 course lutes, I think of the ones described by Mace, with two peg boxes. But the lute Baron is holding looks like a regular 11 course lute with an extra course, right? Seems like there were two types of 12 course lutes. Are On 2014-05-17 20:01, Rob MacKillop wrote: I used