Good morning, Alain.
Thank you for this. I hope it was fun to put together!
Have a good afternoon,
Chris.
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 1:06 AM Alain Veylit
<[1]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote:
People who like lute duets might interested in a project I put
together,
People who like lute duets might interested in a project I put
together, see http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/projects/preview/26
I did not quite make it to 100 but there are still some pieces to be
added after this list goes silent.
Good night all,
Alain
To get on or off this list
Here is a note from LSA Rental Traffic Manager James Louder on our
rental program:
Waiting is difficult when you really want to play the lute! The LSA
Lute Rental Program was already in the throes of some badly needed
reorganization when the pandemic came along. Who could have
Thanks Nancy. She's been on the LSA waiting list for months and there's
no ETA yet. The student is a total beginner and that fire will only
burn so long unless she gets a real instrument pronto.
Chris
On Monday, July 27, 2020, 1:18 PM, Nancy Carlin
wrote:
The LSA Lute
The LSA Lute Rental program has renaissance lutes available. More info
on the website or email the
James Louder
LSA Rental Traffic Manager
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Nancy
Would any kind soul within the orbit of Nashville TN have a
renaissance lute they'd be willing to loan or rent
Leonard Williams
-Original Message-
From: Jurgen Frenz
To: Leonard Williams
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, May 24, 2020 8:06 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
I find the strap discussion quite interesting especially what Leonhard
Williams just said - it
[1]We could not find the links in the message I sentthey should be
at the bottom of the message So hopefully this information can be
helpful, Anton & Anna
[2]LESSON 1, LUTE STRAP www.luteduo.com
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LESSON 1, LUTE
h.edu>
Sent: Sun, May 24, 2020 8:06 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
I find the strap discussion quite interesting especially what
Leonhard
Williams just said - it reminds me (and everybody who likes to think
about his/her playing) that the simple position we sit down
om: Jurgen Frenz
To: Leonard Williams
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sun, May 24, 2020 8:06 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
I find the strap discussion quite interesting especially what Leonhard
Williams just said - it reminds me (and everybody who likes to think
about his/h
er.
> Leonard Williams
> -Original Message-
> From: John Mardinly john.mardi...@asu.edu
> To: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com; Lute List
> lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Sent: Sat, May 23, 2020 2:47 pm
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
> I've been playing without a strap si
: John Mardinly
To: howard posner ; Lute List
Sent: Sat, May 23, 2020 2:47 pm
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
I've been playing without a strap since 1970. However, I must admit
that holding the lute is a bit like holding a greased pig. What works
for me now is rubberized shelf
I’ve been playing without a strap since 1970. However, I must admit that
holding the lute is a bit like holding a greased pig. What works for me now is
rubberized shelf liner:
> On May 22, 2020, at 7:19 AM, Christopher Stetson
> wrote:
>
> Hi, all. I've been playing without a strap since 1974. It is possible.
Arthur: Ah. Look, the statue. How do get the cup bit to stay where it is,
unsupported?
Wise Old Bird: It stays there because it’s artistically right.
Am Freitag, 22. Mai 2020 20:35 CEST, "G. C." schrieb:
> I am surprized, that noone has yet mentioned the type of strap that
> you sat on. It seems like a very effective solution.
I think this is maybe because there is no (historical) evidence for suh straps.
IIRC they are
a
I am surprized, that noone has yet mentioned the type of strap that
you sat on. It seems like a very effective solution.
And can anybody remind me of the name of that modern X-strap at the
back, which seems like the optimal solution?
G.
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found nothing
in a dozen paintings, so I stopped to ask here...
That's what the list is for, right? :)
On 22.05.20 13:43, Joachim Lüdtke wrote:
Not to forget the picture of two guy playing in Castaldi's Capricci
a due stromenti … :)
-Original-Nachricht-
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Lute
the list is for, right? :)
On 22.05.20 13:43, Joachim Lüdtke wrote:
Not to forget the picture of two guy playing in Castaldi's Capricci
a due stromenti … :)
-Original-Nachricht-
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
Datum: 2020-05-22T13:26:04+0200
Von: "Ralf Mattes"
An: &q
a
due stromenti … :)
-Original-Nachricht-
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
Datum: 2020-05-22T13:26:04+0200
Von: "Ralf Mattes"
An: "Tristan von Neumann"
Am Freitag, 22. Mai 2020 12:24 CEST, Tristan von Neumann
schrieb:
I am going to make myself a nice lute st
what the list is for, right? :)
On 22.05.20 13:43, Joachim Lüdtke wrote:
Not to forget the picture of two guy playing in Castaldi's Capricci a due
stromenti … :)
-Original-Nachricht-
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
Datum: 2020-05-22T13:26:04+0200
Von: "Ralf Mattes"
An: &q
Not to forget the picture of two guy playing in Castaldi's Capricci a due
stromenti … :)
-Original-Nachricht-
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap
Datum: 2020-05-22T13:26:04+0200
Von: "Ralf Mattes"
An: "Tristan von Neumann"
Am Freitag, 22. Mai 2020 12:24 CEST,
Am Freitag, 22. Mai 2020 12:24 CEST, Tristan von Neumann
schrieb:
> I am going to make myself a nice lute strap.
>
> So I have been digging through paintings...
>
> Weirdly, no one ever seems to use any form of strap...
Look closer/search better. Just two:
-
Hi Craig
Another option for lute tabulature fonts are those created by Steve
Horn, primarily for users of Sibelius for typesetting tabulature, but
they can be used in other contexts as well, so they might meet your needs:
tto: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
The fronimo fonts are just regular windows fonts. They are available
in
the free demo version of fronimo.
But I would check with [1]Francesco Tribioli to see if there are
copyright issues in using these fonts in finale.
The fronimo fonts are just regular windows fonts. They are available in
the free demo version of fronimo.
But I would check with [1]Francesco Tribioli to see if there are
copyright issues in using these fonts in finale.
--Sarge
On 3/29/2020 06:09, Mac User wrote:
Fronimo's
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
from what I know there is no distinct font format for Windows. The fonts are
for download in the file section of the Fronimo group, you can even you them in
your text processor if you wish.
As explained elsewhere also by me
from what I know there is no distinct font format for Windows. The fonts are
for download in the file section of the Fronimo group, you can even you them in
your text processor if you wish.
As explained elsewhere also by me the use of Fronimo on a Mac is without big
problems. There are a few
Miles
These are good options! I will have to figure out how to make Finale
use "r" instead of "c" for all 2nd fret notes. I don't readily know if
that's possible, but I will explore that option this week.
Also: how do most players feel about using mensural notation for the
Fronimo’s fonts do look great, but . . .
1. Wouldn’t I have to purchase Fronimo to obtain the fonts? Then I would have a
program I can’t install or use on my Mac.
2. It is my understanding that Fronimo’s fonts are formatted for Windows and
don’t work on the Mac anyway.
Is this correct?
Craig
>
Just use Fronimo's fonts on Finale.
Regards
Fabio
Il 25/03/2020 02:31, Mac User ha scritto:
Hi all! I’ve been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many
years. Recently, I’ve begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a
mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A,
ant online help URL for the Staff/Part Properties
>> dialog: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/staff-part-properties
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: guy_and_liz Smith
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:41 AM
>> To: Tristan von Neumann; lute@cs
] On Behalf Of Tristan von Neumann
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:31 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
Wow thanks. That's some progress.
Unfortunately, this creates Thysius style tabs with the 7th line always
present, which is weird to read as I tend
Smith
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:41 AM
To: Tristan von Neumann; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
Right-click the staff and select Staff/Part Properties from the context dialog.
There are actually two context dialogs, so you might need to move
10:41 AM
To: Tristan von Neumann; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
Right-click the staff and select Staff/Part Properties from the context dialog.
There are actually two context dialogs, so you might need to move the cursor
and click a few times to get
@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
If you have a newer version, the lute can be found in the instrument
list.
When you use the wizard, there should be a menu "plucked instruments"
filed under "early music".
Click "Lute (Tablature&qu
If you have a newer version, the lute can be found in the instrument
list.
When you use the wizard, there should be a menu "plucked instruments"
filed under "early music".
Click "Lute (Tablature" and you get a 6 line staff.
Edit as usual, but you get letters. As I said, more
For French tabs with good optics you can also use MuseScore, which is
also free.
However I have not yet (on Linux) found any support of more than 6 courses.
Editing is quite easy.
On 25.03.20 06:21, Sean Smith wrote:
I've used Parallels to open Fronimo on Mac and it works pretty well.
I've used Parallels to open Fronimo on Mac and it works pretty well. My
only complaint is that Mac updates sometimes would create problems as
would OS upgrades. Eventually it would work but rarely the same problem
twice. That was 8 or 9 years ago so that may be water under the bridge.
I use Finale.
For French tab font I use Times Roman bold italics. Size 11.
I place the ciphers through the tab lines, not in between.
I check the box to not let tab lines cross the tab ciphers.
David
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 02:36, Mac User <[1]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
Yes, you can use Fronimo on a mac. You may want to poke through the
archives to find out how to do it.
I seem to remember that there was something like emulating a pc
environment for Fronimo on your mac.
I am by no means a computer expert or something, but members of the
list
The other point, which I realize is slightly tangential to this topic,
is we can create, and share, our own personal lute books, if we so
choose. Most lute books were collections of pieces from diverse authors
and there is no reason we can't, for our own pleasure, take a piece
from Milleran
We wrote about that a while ago on our blog:
[1]https://www.cuerdaspulsadas.es/blog/60-anos-afinando-el-laud/
You can translate it to any language using the flags at the top left
corner.
Regards.
El sáb., 7 dic. 2019 a las 20:07, Alain Veylit
I agree: humans are notoriously impatient. Perhaps this explains why
tempo, pitch and decibels have been going up and up throughout the
history of music.
On 12/6/19 11:06 PM, Sean Smith wrote:
If they are playing for other angels dancing on a pin, no rush at all.
But any human
If they are playing for other angels dancing on a pin, no rush at all.
But any human audience eventually needs to go home and feed the little
humans.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 9:07 PM Alain Veylit
<[1]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote:
Only takes her that long because she has
Only takes her that long because she has funny hands. Most (anatomically
correct) people can do it in a jiffy. It's true. (Besides, if you are
immortal, what's the rush?)
On 12/6/19 2:15 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote:
I just found this on TwoSetViolin's subreddit:
I like it.
Eugene
-Original Message-
From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
On Behalf Of Tristan von Neumann
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 5:15 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Lute Humor
I just found this on TwoSetViolin's subreddit:
The London Pro Musica editions of then-popular pieces with divisions by
Bassano (with lute tablature) are particularly good.
Jim Stimson
-Original Message-
From: David van Ooijen
Cc: lutelist Net
Sent: Sat, Aug 17, 2019 4:15 pm
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute + recorder
Karen Meyers (Pan's Fancy) published 3 volumes of just such pieces for
lute and recorder. I think they were once available from the Am lute
soc. If you can't find them get back in touch with me.
Bob Purrenhage
On 8/17/2019 3:59 PM, Leonard Williams wrote:
I'm seeking sources
out for me!
Leonard
-Original Message-
From: Andre Nieuwlaat [2]
To: lute [3]
Sent: Sat, Aug 17, 2019 4:28 pm
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute + recorder
Many of the pieces in the Paston lute books are intabulations of
polyphonic pieces (motets, movements from masses,
-Original Message-
From: Andre Nieuwlaat [2]
To: lute [3]
Sent: Sat, Aug 17, 2019 4:28 pm
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute + recorder
Many of the pieces in the Paston lute books are intabulations of
polyphonic pieces (motets, movements from masses, madrigals,
fantasias
Thanks, all! Looks like I've got some work cut out for me!
Leonard
-Original Message-
From: Andre Nieuwlaat
To: lute
Sent: Sat, Aug 17, 2019 4:28 pm
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute + recorder
Many of the pieces in the Paston lute books are intabulations
Many of the pieces in the Paston lute books are intabulations of
polyphonic pieces (motets, movements from masses, madrigals,
fantasias), with the superius part left out. The superius part can of
course be played on recorder.
André
Op za 17 aug. 2019 om 22:07 schreef Tristan
I don't know of any major repertoire specifically for recorder and Ren.
lute, and I'm not completely familiar with recorder range and
registration, but I'd think pretty much any lute song should be
adaptable. Check out [1]gerbode.net for more modern editions than
you'll know what
LPM had a series with written out tab parts for lute. But basically,
anything polyphonic goes if you can read from the score or are willing
to make your own parts from the score. It's a century or more of music
up for grabs!
David
***
David van
Dario Castello comes to mind.
At least one of the solo sonatas are available online with tabs.
If you play continuo, this is no problem anyway. The Bass line is pretty
self explanatory.
If you like older stuff:
Pierre Attaignant's Tres Breve et familiere introduction with Chanson
melodies is
Thank you very much Luke ! Much appreciated !
Best,
Jean-Marie
> Le 17 août 2019 à 12:22, Luke Emmet a écrit :
>
> Dear lute list
>
> I'm pleased to announce that the Lute Iconography Database is now fully
> released. A previous version had been circulated last year, but it seemed
> that
A cent is 1200 times the logarithm to base 2 of a real number.
And the reason for those "complicated numbers" is the rather elementary fact
that
log(3)/log(2)
is irrational.
By the Gelfond-Schneider theorem it is even transcendental, but this a very
deep celebrated theorem proved in 1934
That is not true Rainer, they simply say that the use of cents is a relatively
modern one and anachronistic for dealing with Renaissance music. It is
concomitant with equal temperament (in which a cent = 1/100 of a semitone).
Best,
Matthew
Le 28 juil. 2019 à 10:13, Rainer a écrit :
>
Very entertaining, indeed.
Apparently, they don't have the slightest idea where the concept of cents is
coming from.
Rainer
PS
What these guys say about "complicated numbers" and computers in part two is -
I am afraid to say - bullshit.
These guys are mathematical idiots.
On 27.07.2019
Hmm.
The famous caterpillar gut?
Why would they call it lutestring?...
Hmmm.
On 27.07.19 16:42, Leonard Williams wrote:
This is from my 1916 Webster's Collegiate Dictionary:
lutestring: n. A plain, stout, lustrous silk, used for dresses and for
ribbon.
Also, a
An interesting and entertaining introduction to temperaments in the Renaissance
(but which does not broach the subject of fretted instruments):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R75unSXKJXQ=youtu.be
Some of the other episodes are also relevant to questions of temperament.
Best,
Matthew
To get
Ross Duffin wrote a very measured and comprehensive chapter entitled 'Tuning
and Temperament' in 'A Performer's Guide to Renaissance Music' (Indiana
University Press). He reviews the difficulties of using meantone on fretted
instruments (and notably lutes) and discusses the various solutions
> On Jul 23, 2019, at 9:07 AM, Alain Veylit wrote:
>
> I have a practical question : is it common practice for Baroque lute players
> to also adjust their frets when they change their diapason tuning?
No, it’s common practice to tune the diapasons to the fretted notes if tuning
them to G,
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--- Original-Nachricht ---
Von: Alain Veylit
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
Datum: 23.07.2019, 18:07 Uhr
An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
I have a practical question : is it common practice
I have a practical question : is it common practice for Baroque lute
players to also adjust their frets when they change their diapason tuning?
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sometimes even with bagpipes.
RT
On 7/22/2019 1:59 PM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
Citterns play in only 2 keys, and hardly ever with other instruments.
so it is not a problem there.
RT
http://turovsky.org
Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes.
On Jul 22, 2019, at 10:47 AM, David
.@cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf
of howard posner
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 2:01 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
> On Jul 20, 2019, at 4:22 AM, Ron Andrico
wrote:
>
> musicians who
> understand music and who exp
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 2:47 PM
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
Fixed fretted instrument had some sort of MT. Citerns with an
approximation 1/6 comma MT come to mind. That's not a modern
interpretation or an awkward s
Dear all,
I hope I haven't missed anyone's mention of Bardi, but he apparently
witnessed the problem discussed here
âand more than once Iâve felt like laughing when I saw musicians
struggling to put a lute or a viol into proper tune with a keyboard..."
My own personal
I'm coming late to the discussion; perhaps an interesting read for some
of us would be Adam Wead's dissertation titled "Lute Tuning and
Temperament in the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Centuries". Here, I
believe, is the link:
half of
> howard posner
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 5:36 PM
> To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
>
> > On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:01 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:
> >
> > I am very good at distilling complex ideas into concise terms .
So you don't alter the tuning of the open strings on your lute when changing
temperaments? No wonder you don't like meantone.
Best,
Matthew
> On Jul 22, 2019, at 21:55, Ron Andrico wrote:
>
> It's even worse when a guitarist has to tune to a keyboard or an accordion in
> ensemble because
lternative
>> temperament issues and places them more in the class of a keyboard
>> instrument.
>>
>> RA
>>__
>>
>> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf
>> of David van Ooije
-...@cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf
of David van Ooijen
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 7:39 PM
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
My point was they were played in consort with lutes, which has
consequences for the temperament of the lutes. Same is true
, July 22, 2019 2:47 PM
> Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
>
> Fixed fretted instrument had some sort of MT. Citerns with an
> approximation 1/6 comma MT come to mind. That's not a modern
> interpretation or an awkward stretch.
&g
PM
Cc: [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu <[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
Fixed fretted instrument had some sort of MT. Citerns with an
approximation 1/6 comma MT come to mind. That's not a modern
interpretati
Ooijen
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 2:47 PM
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
Fixed fretted instrument had some sort of MT. Citerns with an
approximation 1/6 comma MT come to mind. That's not a modern
interpretation or an awkward stretch
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 5:36 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
> On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:01 AM, Ron Andrico
wrote:
>
> I am very good at distilling complex ideas into concise terms . . .
> What I do not value is the manner in w
@cs.dartmouth.edu
Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
Citterns play in broken consort with lutes. Been there, done that.
Temperament, not to mention tuning, certainly is an issue.
It's nice for members to speak out on subjects, it's even better
when
they do so on subjects
Citterns play in broken consort with lutes. Been there, done that.
Temperament, not to mention tuning, certainly is an issue.
It's nice for members to speak out on subjects, it's even better when
they do so on subjects they have some experience with.
David
On Mon, 22 Jul 2019
Hardly ever?...
In paintings, there's often other instruments...
And what about Orpharion? It also has fixed frets...
On 22.07.19 19:59, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
Citterns play in only 2 keys, and hardly ever with other instruments.
so it is not a problem there.
RT
I reckon that there's also different lutist temperaments.
Let's not use mean tone though :)
On 22.07.19 19:36, howard posner wrote:
On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:01 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:
I am very good at distilling complex ideas into concise terms . . .
What I do not value is the manner in
Citterns play in only 2 keys, and hardly ever with other instruments.
so it is not a problem there.
RT
http://turovsky.org
Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes.
> On Jul 22, 2019, at 10:47 AM, David van Ooijen
> wrote:
>
> Fixed fretted instrument had some sort of MT. Citerns
> On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:01 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:
>
> I am very good at distilling complex ideas into concise terms . . .
> What I do not value is the manner in which various players claim authority by
> stating that their particular approach is the one true way.
But you’re the one who just
Fixed fretted instrument had some sort of MT. Citerns with an
approximation 1/6 comma MT come to mind. That's not a modern
interpretation or an awkward stretch.
>
>on. There survive some historical discussions of lute
fretting but the
>language is unclear or
dartmouth.edu on behalf
> of howard posner
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 2:01 AM
> To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
>
>> On Jul 20, 2019, at 4:22 AM, Ron Andrico
> wrote:
>>
>> musicians who
>> understand music and w
__
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf
of howard posner
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 2:01 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
> On Jul 20, 2019, at 4:22 AM, Ron Andrico
wrote:
>
> musi
For those of you who are looking for help experimenting with meantone and other
temperaments, David van Ooijen's webpage is a very good starting point:
https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com/mean-tone-temperament-for-lute/
Best,
Matthew
Le 21 juil. 2019 à 17:34, David van Ooijen a écrit :
>
> On Jul 20, 2019, at 4:22 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:
>
> musicians who
> understand music and who explore the more interesting repertory for
> lute follow the precepts of Galilei, which approximates equal
> temperament.
You just trashed most of the best musicians in early music, and,
Not all tastes are created equal.
RT
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 20, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Tristan von Neumann
> wrote:
>
> Roman, "insufferable" temperament does not exist.
>
> All temperaments are an acquired taste - otherwise you would (and some
> people surely did) think the music of
, tribioli wrote:
But major thirds are absolutely better, so...
FT
Messaggio originale
Da: Roman Turovsky
Data: 20/07/19 19:54 (GMT+01:00)
A: Matthew Daillie , "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
list"
Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
Minor thirds get c
---
> Da: Roman Turovsky
> Data: 20/07/19 19:54 (GMT+01:00)
> A: Matthew Daillie , "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> list"
> Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
>
> Minor thirds get compromised, so
> RT
>> On 7/20/2019 12:55 PM, Matthew Daillie
But major thirds are absolutely better, so...
FT
Messaggio originale
Da: Roman Turovsky
Data: 20/07/19 19:54 (GMT+01:00)
A: Matthew Daillie , "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
list"
Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments
Minor thirds get compr
Minor thirds get compromised, so
RT
On 7/20/2019 12:55 PM, Matthew Daillie wrote:
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Le 20 juil. 2019 à 18:45, Roman Turovsky a écrit :
I'm referring to the minor thirds in MT that that nauseously sound more neutral
than minor.
RT
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Le 20 juil. 2019 à 18:45, Roman Turovsky a écrit :
> I'm referring to the minor thirds in MT that that nauseously sound more
> neutral than minor.
> RT
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I'm referring to the minor thirds in MT that that nauseously sound more
neutral than minor.
RT
On 7/20/2019 12:35 PM, Matthew Daillie wrote:
Yes, there are minor thirds in 1/4 comma meantone that are wider than in equal
temperament and so closer to pure (they beat less)! Minor thirds in equal
Yes, there are minor thirds in 1/4 comma meantone that are wider than in equal
temperament and so closer to pure (they beat less)! Minor thirds in equal
temperament are more than 15 cents narrower than pure.
Maybe you were referring to augmented seconds (in meantone, enharmonic
accidentals are
Roman, "insufferable" temperament does not exist.
All temperaments are an acquired taste - otherwise you would (and some
people surely did) think the music of Arabia insufferable with its 3/4
tones.
Or Gamelan ensembles consisting of instruments left to rot and detune
deliberately because it
It is a lot more harrowing to hear the minor 3rds that are too wide, resulting
from various masochistic temperaments.
And the use of the latter in music that contains chromaticism is simply
insufferable.
RT
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> On Jul 20,
It has been well-documented that the instructions published by Robert Dowland
in the Varietie of Lute Lessons are critically flawed (see Lindley pp. 81-83).
It is highly probable that something close to equal temperament was used during
the renaissance period but so were several variants of
workshop. The man was an
instrument builder as well as a teacher of both viols and lute, but there is
not a single Instrument known from his Hands, only the six-course lute from a
later member of the Gerle family which is in Vienna today.
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