On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:11 AM, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I measured David's system with my measurement microphones, a 32 bit
..
In short: easy to do, proven to work, And I owe David a beer, at least.
I understood you're more of a malt's man. I'll settle for that. ;-)
Bring a
Are you able to set out your research findings in a table of quantified
results? Also what tuning was used and what key?
MH
--- On Tue, 11/11/08, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Temperaments, the second night
To: lute
In short: easy to do, proven to work, And I owe David a beer, at least.
dt
Well then I owe him a case. Also you, Sean Smith, Omer, and everyone
else who has contributed to the meantone threads. That, in
conjunction with with the break-in and tone discussions have
empowered and informed me to
When you can (and if you want) i will be happy to hear :-)
On Nov 11, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Daniel Winheld wrote:
In short: easy to do, proven to work, And I owe David a beer, at
least.
dt
Well then I owe him a case. Also you, Sean Smith, Omer, and everyone
else who has contributed to the
Le 10 nov. 08 à 12:18, David van Ooijen a écrit :
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Andrew Gibbs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A nice quote from August Magnan (the entomologist who calculated that
bumble bees are incapable of flight):
'One shouldn't be surprised that the results of the
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Andrew Gibbs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A nice quote from August Magnan (the entomologist who calculated that
bumble bees are incapable of flight):
'One shouldn't be surprised that the results of the calculations
don't square with reality.'
The other day the
, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
From: Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Temperaments, the second night
To: Andrew Gibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 9:44 AM
It only very roughly looks like 1/6 comma if you take a
single string in isolation. If you carry out
I measured David's system with my measurement microphones, a 32 bit
recorder and a strobe, and the notes were accurate. The best notes
are dead on, the worst a cent or two off, which is normal anyway--if
you hit the string harder they will drift more. I posted the photo on
my web site. More
--- On Sat, 8/11/08, Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Temperaments, the second night
To: Andrew Gibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 9:44 AM
It only very roughly looks like 1/6 comma if you take
--- On Fri, 7/11/08, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Temperaments, the second night
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Friday, 7 November, 2008, 12:12 AM
You basically have a set of options, David is correct that
you
He doesn't, of course - the terminology - and the mathematical
analysis - weren't worked out until much later. But his instructions
for tuning/fret placement result in 1/6 comma meantone tuning. More
or less...
In his day, was he out-numbered by ET tuning lutenists? My basic
Hans Gerle was in denial? Perhaps this explains the feelings of
frustration and inner sadness found in some of his music (that he
played quite happily in 1/6 comma meantone).
On 7 Nov 2008, at 09:09, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
...
Catch also, and amusingly, points out the denial in the face of
If someone will send the measurements for the Gerle I'll hook it up
to my measurement microphones and see if it works, I can't see how it
would of could but I'm happy to measure it.
If it plays in tune I can ditch my Tastini :)
If you send measurements please do so in cents so the result will be
If anyone here ever tuned to unequal temperament without tastini,
please write your experience. (or even quotes from early fretted
players)
I will start my testing tomorrow, but i will still like to read what
other people done.
and of course...the other way around. how you handled the new
You basically have a set of options, David is correct that you can
set a high fret for example to get a true G sharp and get by without
the tastini for select pieces.
And you can look for pieces without an F sharp, there are some nice
ones, and so on. I find for a lot of the music I like to
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, now that i've decided on my Temperament, one final question should be
asked.
what about the strings tuning? I guess it wont be the same as in equal
temperament.
Obviously. When for example you set your third fret
I just wonder (again) what will happened if i wont use tastino? lets
say...in Pythagorean tuning or Aron's Meantine?
On Nov 5, 2008, at 12:54 PM, David van Ooijen wrote:
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
OK, now that i've decided on my Temperament, one
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just wonder (again) what will happened if i wont use tastino? lets
say...in Pythagorean tuning or Aron's Meantine?
I don't know about Aron's Meantine, but Pythagorean temperament
without tastini shouldn't be too much of a
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