Tenor viol. Tuned like a lute. Have fun!
Fretless is not always fancy free.
dt
At 07:21 PM 10/23/2008, you wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008, Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Thanks, all.
Well, I was just daydreaming. I think I may be coming to the end of
my serious lute playing phase of my
Weiss and Logy on archlute! Well, of course, everything is
explanable, I can understand any individual approach.
It's not my approach. I'm into the baroque lute, to be sure. It was an
attempt. What I wanted to find out was whether or not it is feasible.
One can buy Weiss or
I do like accompanying a singer though.
RT
Here you are, though you don't like it: H Albert, G Voigtl=E4nder,
J.H.
Schein, H. Sch=FCtz, Ch Bernhard, A. Krieger, J. Rist, T Selle, A
Hammerschmidt, J Nauwach, C Ch Dedekind, =A0J Kremberg, Ph.H.
Erlebach,
G.Ph.
Hi All,
The new piece of the month (for August! I'm still trying to catch up
with myself) is now available for your delectation at
www.luteshop.co.uk/month/pieceofthemonth.htm
I'm hoping to do some more Dalza before the end of his anniversary year,
though since his book was published on
Beautiful Martin!
How good of you digging this up!
Best Wishes
G.
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From: Martin Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:55 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Dalza's Greensleeves
Hi All,
The new piece of the month (for
Mathias,
My post was only techincally glued to your reply, I know you are into
the baroque lute.
On 2008-10-24, at 12:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One can buy Weiss or Logi on an archlute if it's for fun or pleasure.
Equally well one can try Pulenc on theorbo or Kapsperger on modern
harp,
Matthias,
On 2008-10-24, at 12:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do like accompanying a singer though.
RT
Here you are, though you don't like it: H Albert, G Voigtländer,
J.H.
Schein, H. Schütz, Ch Bernhard, A. Krieger, J. Rist, T Selle, A
Hammerschmidt, J Nauwach, C Ch Dedekind, J
From: Jerzy Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One can buy Weiss or Logi on an archlute if it's for fun or pleasure.
Equally well one can try Pulenc on theorbo or Kapsperger on modern
harp, or Gershwin on balalaika
That's a bit of a stretch, don't you think? Italian lutenists like
Zamboni or dalla
...Good point Mathias, and don't forget our good old Frenchy Perrine and hi
s Livre de musique pour le lut. Contenant une m?tode nouvelle et facile pour ap
rendre ? toucher le lut sur les notes de la musique (...) et une table pour apre
ndre ? toucher le lut sur la basse continu? pour
Jurek,
There is considerable difference of how music is heard by its participants
vs. how it is heard by listeners.
My perspicacity tells that all this ensemble music was clearly intended to
be heard just by the participants, with or without very few guests. Moving
this music into our typical
Hi, Marcelo,
thank you for pointing at the Forget site!
I changed my computer, and the tab collection still sits in the old
one.
Daniel Forget added a lot of material since the last time I visited his
site. Thank you very much, Daniel!
Saludos,
Manolo Laguillo
El
The previous message was not complete!
You wrote:
I have tried Zamboni on 13c.
RT
What I find intriguing about Zamboni is how _very_ sparingly he uses the
diapasons. The 14th course is used only 3 or 4 times throughout all of the
11 sonatas.
The 12 and 13th are likewise rather scarce (made
Massimo Lonardi recorded the Sonata n. 9 on his arciliuto in a very nice
CD called Italian Baroque music for lute, Agorà 1997.
Luca
G. Crona on 24-10-2008 15:19 wrote:
The previous message was not complete!
You wrote:
I have tried Zamboni on 13c.
RT
What I find intriguing about Zamboni
I must say, that Zamboni seems to be using a lot of the same elements/idioms
as Weiss did, and wonder if they probably met and/or influenced each other?
G.
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From: Jerzy Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lutelist Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008
That's the one you always hear, but the other ones are also quite tasty.
G.
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From: Luca Manassero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:37 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Zamboni was Re: Weiss, Logy and archlute
Massimo Lonardi recorded
Roman,
On 2008-10-24, at 14:50, Roman Turovsky wrote:
Jurek,
There is considerable difference of how music is heard by its
participants
vs. how it is heard by listeners.
That's the paradox. We today removed this music from it's original
milieu and put it on the modern concert platform,
From: Jerzy Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jurek,
There is considerable difference of how music is heard by its
participants
vs. how it is heard by listeners.
That's the paradox. We today removed this music from it's original
milieu and put it on the modern concert platform, on which it most
often
But I havn't heared any complains when a trio of a singer, lute and
gamba are glorifying the Dowland's name. To be honest, to my ears the
lute is almost inaudible in such setting, and discussions about
poliphony of it's part or consecutive fifths is aimless. Very often
even without gamba.
In
But I havn't heared any complains when a trio of a singer, lute and
gamba are glorifying the Dowland's name. To be honest, to my ears the
lute is almost inaudible in such setting, and discussions about
poliphony of it's part or consecutive fifths is aimless. Very often
even without gamba.
In
Hei!
I found the mail where Tim Crawford mentions Logy for archlute. Here it
is.
Are
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:50:22 +
From: Tim Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: baroque lute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: the archlute in Germany
There are indeed two
And here is the mail where our Mathias Rösel mentions a couple of
theorbo/archlute pieces by Reusner. Which pieces are you refering to,
Mathias?
Are
-- Forwarded message --
Date: 12 Oct 2005 07:07 GMT
From: Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: baroque Lutelist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Obviously, it's good to know about the two or three Losy's pieces and
a couple of Reusner's one transfered to theorbo. But I hope you are
not going to say the d-m lute, after this discovery, is practically
useless and everything can be reintabulated to an archlute now - ?
If I remember
And in the 18th century-
Antonio Scotti, Melchiorre Chiesa, Antonio Tinazzoli, Giuseppe Vaccari and
Lodovico Fontanelli.
RT
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From: Jean-Marie Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:48 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re:
Of course, Jean-Marie, my to obvious omission, but still, the period
coinsiding with the 11/13-c lute repertoire is extremely unfavorable
for the archlute as the solo instrument. Perhaps Italians were still
playing it, but mostly in Italy - vide Arigoni dynasty (no single
piece of music I
That's something! A bit more detailes, Roman, please.
J
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On 2008-10-24, at 20:23, Roman Turovsky wrote:
And in the 18th century-
Antonio Scotti, Melchiorre Chiesa, Antonio Tinazzoli, Giuseppe
Vaccari and Lodovico Fontanelli.
RT
- Original Message - From: Jean-Marie Poirier
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Jerzy Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Weiss and Logy on archlute! Well, of course, everything is explanable, I can
understand any individual approach. In the end music as an art or
entertainment is 'free'. Also history is a very plastic phenomenon, what
endless
Of course, Orlando Christoforetti in his preface to Dalla Casa
_Sonate_ gives even more names. Presumably in this respect you could
cite half of the address books from all Italian cities and viliges.
It is as usefull for us as news from the moon, until you'll point out
to the hard copy of
How can I desribe the situation succintly?
There aree Mss, but they are owned by a major dziura w dupie who wouldn't
let anyone see them, a bit like the Chilesotti debacle...
RT
- Original Message -
From: Jerzy Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lutelist Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent:
How can I desribe the situation succintly?
There aree Mss, but they are owned by a major dziura w dupie who wouldn't
let anyone see them, a bit like the Chilesotti debacle...
RT
- Original Message -
From: Jerzy Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lutelist Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent:
So I'd kiss their dupa and play Uccelini, Colista, Corelli or Handel
- at least without a shame, and not transtabulate or steal casual
bits from Weiss or Logy. I still believe lutenist is a musician -
isn't he?, and not a prisoner of the tablature ghetto. It's a
frustrating abridgement
No, Roman, please tell people what is _dupa_, otherwise we might be
accused of talking awfully musicological lingo ;-)
J
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On 2008-10-24, at 21:30, Roman Turovsky wrote:
How can I desribe the situation succintly?
There aree Mss, but they are owned by a major dziura w dupie who
Are Vidar Boye Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
And here is the mail where our Mathias Rösel mentions a couple of
theorbo/archlute pieces by Reusner. Which pieces are you refering to,
Mathias?
Are
Source: Theorbenbuch Goëss: Ebenthal, Grafen Goëss'sche
Primogenitur-Fideikommiss-Bibliothek,
And here is the mail where our Mathias Rösel mentions a couple of
theorbo/archlute pieces by Reusner. Which pieces are you refering to,
Mathias?
Are
Source: Theorbenbuch Goëss: Ebenthal, Grafen Goëss'sche
Primogenitur-Fideikommiss-Bibliothek, Ms. Theorbe, fol. 44-45 (= p.
87-89).
There
Obviously, it's good to know about the two or three Losy's pieces and a
couple of Reusner's one transfered to theorbo. But I hope you are not going
to say the d-m lute, after this discovery, is practically useless and
everything can be reintabulated to an archlute now - ?
Of course not!
On 2008-10-24, at 23:14, Are Vidar Boye Hansen wrote:
If I remember well, beside of one Pignatelli MS (PL-Kj),
I have never heard about this manuscript. Please, tell me more
about it!
PL-Kj Mus. Ms. 40591
V.A. Coelho, Authority, Autonomy, and Interpretation in Seventeenth-
Century
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