[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-10 Thread sterling price
Hi-regarding Yepes early recordings of Bach, what about the much earlier 
recordings of Podolski(sp?). Anyone have info on these recordings? I have one 
old LP and it is truly horrid.
By the way, the Yepes Bach Lute LPs can often be found on ebay--thats where I 
got mine.
Sterling



- Original Message 
From: "dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us" 
To: Eugene C. Braig IV 
Cc: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu 
Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 11:37:44 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute


> Personally, in spite of being the source of that last e-mail, I am also a
> great fan of much of Yepes' work.

As am I, his recording of many of the Sor etudes was my tutor as I worked
thru them in my classical guitar study period.  There were many more LP's
of Segovia than Yepes in the house, but Narcisco was the more studied.

Never met either of them in person, but I was privileged to 'share' the
stage with Segovia at one SRO concert in Boston .. overflow seating.
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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-09 Thread demery

> Personally, in spite of being the source of that last e-mail, I am also a
> great fan of much of Yepes' work.

As am I, his recording of many of the Sor etudes was my tutor as I worked
thru them in my classical guitar study period.  There were many more LP's
of Segovia than Yepes in the house, but Narcisco was the more studied.

Never met either of them in person, but I was privileged to 'share' the
stage with Segovia at one SRO concert in Boston ... overflow seating.
--
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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-09 Thread Ron Fletcher
I have the 'Bach on the Lute' box-set by Nigel North (4-CD's)from
Amazon.co.uk

There were varying prices available for this set.  Also each of the four
discs could be bought separately.

Somehow, this particular set (new) was priced at less than one separate
disc.  If it is still there, look carefully.  I can recommend it. 

Best Wishes

Ron (UK)

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To: 'lute-cs.dartmouth.edu'
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

Many years ago (it must have been in 1983, I guess) I met Narciso Yepes 
in Torino, Italy at the end of one of his concerts at the Conservatorio. 
It was my first one and I was a great "fan" of him.
At that time I didn't know of his lute recording, but I had listen to 
his complete Bach lute works recording on the 10 strings guitar at least 
100 times. So I told him and I expressed my enthusiasm for it and he got 
back to me (I was 17 years old...) with a great smile and said: "throw 
it away, It's not good at all."

I had the pleasure to study (10 strings guitar, at that time) for a few 
years with one of his Italian students and met Narciso Yepes a few times 
more: he never meant too much of that recording, as far as I can remember.
But he was a true pioneer and really meant his 10 strings guitar as a 
way to stop "cutting away" while translating the so-called Back lute 
works for a 6 strings guitar. I still own those LP's and still believe 
that his interpretation was by far much more "musical" than what Segovia 
did in many cases. His recording of the Telemann (?)  4 Partitas 
together with Godelieve Monden is not bad at all, and (as far as I know) 
there's no similar recording on Baroque lutes.

Luca


Eugene C. Braig IV on 8-12-2009 19:36 wrote:
> Segovia certainly didn't play Bach on any incarnation of lute...unless you
> count modern guitars built to a Spanish paradigm as lutes.  Walter Gerwig
> certainly deserves some recognition for an early lute-driven effort at
Bach.
>
> For what it's worth, the Yepes article in Wikipedia offers "[Yepes] was
also
> the first person to record the complete lute works of Bach on period
> instruments (14-course baroque lute)."
>
> That same Wikipedia also offers this review: "[other guitarist's] exciting
> and perceptive performances of the lute works, which were recorded between
> 1981 and 1984, are light years better than the stilted, drab, and often
> utterly stillborn interpretations of Narciso Yepes, who does not sound by
> any means comfortable playing the lute (American record guide, 1984)."
>
> Best,
> Eugene
>
>
>   
>> -Original Message-
>> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
>> Behalf Of dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:20 PM
>> To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute
>>
>> 
>>>Yes, I don't expect it to be up to much, but he did at least give it
a
>>>   
>>>go when no-one else would. Deserves recognition, I think.
>>>   
>> Yes, but in context.  Pretty sure Segovia precedes him, my LPS are at
home
>> (I write this at the library); I have some Yepes and some Segovia LP's
>> acquired in the early 60's, with a broad span of repetoire, including
some
>> vihuella and lute material - L da Milan and Bach for certain.
>>
>> Nigel North was another pioneer, I have at least one LP of his on theorbo
>> from then as well.
>> --
>> Dana Emery
>>
>> 



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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-09 Thread jean-michel Catherinot
And you are right! For me it is unbearable.
   --- En date de : Mar 8.12.09, Eugene C. Braig IV  a
   ecrit :

 De: Eugene C. Braig IV 
 Objet: [LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute
 A: "'lute-cs.dartmouth.edu'" 
 Date: Mardi 8 Decembre 2009, 22h44

   Personally, in spite of being the source of that last e-mail, I am also
   a
   great fan of much of Yepes' work.  I loved the way he recorded the
   Boccherini quintets, e.g.  I also tend to like Yepes' guitar recordings
   better than Segovia's.  After reading that review of his Bach
   recordings on
   14-course lute, I am glad to have NOT heard them.  I'd rather continue
   as a
   fan of Yepes' old recordings.
   Best,
   Eugene
   > -Original Message-
   > From: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   [mailto:[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
   > Behalf Of Luca Manassero
   > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:05 PM
   > To: 'lute-cs.dartmouth.edu'
   > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute
   >
   > Many years ago (it must have been in 1983, I guess) I met Narciso
   Yepes
   > in Torino, Italy at the end of one of his concerts at the
   Conservatorio.
   > It was my first one and I was a great "fan" of him.
   > At that time I didn't know of his lute recording, but I had listen to
   > his complete Bach lute works recording on the 10 strings guitar at
   least
   > 100 times. So I told him and I expressed my enthusiasm for it and he
   got
   > back to me (I was 17 years old...) with a great smile and said:
   "throw
   > it away, It's not good at all."
   >
   > I had the pleasure to study (10 strings guitar, at that time) for a
   few
   > years with one of his Italian students and met Narciso Yepes a few
   times
   > more: he never meant too much of that recording, as far as I can
   remember.
   > But he was a true pioneer and really meant his 10 strings guitar as a
   > way to stop "cutting away" while translating the so-called Back lute
   > works for a 6 strings guitar. I still own those LP's and still
   believe
   > that his interpretation was by far much more "musical" than what
   Segovia
   > did in many cases. His recording of the Telemann (?)  4 Partitas
   > together with Godelieve Monden is not bad at all, and (as far as I
   know)
   > there's no similar recording on Baroque lutes.
   >
   > Luca
   >
   >
   > Eugene C. Braig IV on 8-12-2009 19:36 wrote:
   > > Segovia certainly didn't play Bach on any incarnation of
   lute...unless
   > you
   > > count modern guitars built to a Spanish paradigm as lutes.  Walter
   > Gerwig
   > > certainly deserves some recognition for an early lute-driven effort
   at
   > Bach.
   > >
   > > For what it's worth, the Yepes article in Wikipedia offers "[Yepes]
   was
   > also
   > > the first person to record the complete lute works of Bach on
   period
   > > instruments (14-course baroque lute)."
   > >
   > > That same Wikipedia also offers this review: "[other guitarist's]
   > exciting
   > > and perceptive performances of the lute works, which were recorded
   > between
   > > 1981 and 1984, are light years better than the stilted, drab, and
   often
   > > utterly stillborn interpretations of Narciso Yepes, who does not
   sound
   > by
   > > any means comfortable playing the lute (American record guide,
   1984)."
   > >
   > > Best,
   > > Eugene
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >> -Original Message-
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   [mailto:[4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
   > >> Behalf Of [5]dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us
   > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:20 PM
   > >> To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
   > >> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>>Yes, I don't expect it to be up to much, but he did at least
   give
   > it a
   > >>>
   > >>>go when no-one else would. Deserves recognition, I think.
   > >>>
   > >> Yes, but in context.  Pretty sure Segovia precedes him, my LPS are
   at
   > home
   > >> (I write this at the library); I have some Yepes and some Segovia
   LP's
   > >> acquired in the early 60's, with a broad span of repetoire,
   including
   > some
   > >> vihuella and lute material - L da Milan and Bach for certain.
   > >>
   > >> Nigel North was another pioneer, I have at least one LP of his on
   > theorbo
   > >> from then as well.
   > >> --
   > >> Dana Emery
   > >>
   > >>
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   >
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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-08 Thread Christopher Stetson
   I bought the set back sometime in the '70's.  It's probably still up in
   my attic somewhere.  As best I recall, I agree with the American Record
   guide review.

   Best, and keep playing,

   Chris.
   >>> "Eugene C. Braig IV"  12/8/2009 1:36 PM >>>
   Segovia certainly didn't play Bach on any incarnation of lute...unless
   you
   count modern guitars built to a Spanish paradigm as lutes.  Walter
   Gerwig
   certainly deserves some recognition for an early lute-driven effort at
   Bach.
   For what it's worth, the Yepes article in Wikipedia offers "[Yepes] was
   also
   the first person to record the complete lute works of Bach on period
   instruments (14-course baroque lute)."
   That same Wikipedia also offers this review: "[other guitarist's]
   exciting
   and perceptive performances of the lute works, which were recorded
   between
   1981 and 1984, are light years better than the stilted, drab, and often
   utterly stillborn interpretations of Narciso Yepes, who does not sound
   by
   any means comfortable playing the lute (American record guide, 1984)."
   Best,
   Eugene
   > -Original Message-
   > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
   > Behalf Of dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us
   > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:20 PM
   > To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
   > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute
   >
   >
   > >Yes, I don't expect it to be up to much, but he did at least
   give it
   > a
   > >go when no-one else would. Deserves recognition, I think.
   >
   > Yes, but in context.  Pretty sure Segovia precedes him, my LPS are at
   home
   > (I write this at the library); I have some Yepes and some Segovia
   LP's
   > acquired in the early 60's, with a broad span of repetoire, including
   some
   > vihuella and lute material - L da Milan and Bach for certain.
   >
   > Nigel North was another pioneer, I have at least one LP of his on
   theorbo
   > from then as well.
   > --
   > Dana Emery
   >
   >
   >
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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-08 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Personally, in spite of being the source of that last e-mail, I am also a
great fan of much of Yepes' work.  I loved the way he recorded the
Boccherini quintets, e.g.  I also tend to like Yepes' guitar recordings
better than Segovia's.  After reading that review of his Bach recordings on
14-course lute, I am glad to have NOT heard them.  I'd rather continue as a
fan of Yepes' old recordings.

Best,
Eugene


> -Original Message-
> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
> Behalf Of Luca Manassero
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:05 PM
> To: 'lute-cs.dartmouth.edu'
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute
> 
> Many years ago (it must have been in 1983, I guess) I met Narciso Yepes
> in Torino, Italy at the end of one of his concerts at the Conservatorio.
> It was my first one and I was a great "fan" of him.
> At that time I didn't know of his lute recording, but I had listen to
> his complete Bach lute works recording on the 10 strings guitar at least
> 100 times. So I told him and I expressed my enthusiasm for it and he got
> back to me (I was 17 years old...) with a great smile and said: "throw
> it away, It's not good at all."
> 
> I had the pleasure to study (10 strings guitar, at that time) for a few
> years with one of his Italian students and met Narciso Yepes a few times
> more: he never meant too much of that recording, as far as I can remember.
> But he was a true pioneer and really meant his 10 strings guitar as a
> way to stop "cutting away" while translating the so-called Back lute
> works for a 6 strings guitar. I still own those LP's and still believe
> that his interpretation was by far much more "musical" than what Segovia
> did in many cases. His recording of the Telemann (?)  4 Partitas
> together with Godelieve Monden is not bad at all, and (as far as I know)
> there's no similar recording on Baroque lutes.
> 
> Luca
> 
> 
> Eugene C. Braig IV on 8-12-2009 19:36 wrote:
> > Segovia certainly didn't play Bach on any incarnation of lute...unless
> you
> > count modern guitars built to a Spanish paradigm as lutes.  Walter
> Gerwig
> > certainly deserves some recognition for an early lute-driven effort at
> Bach.
> >
> > For what it's worth, the Yepes article in Wikipedia offers "[Yepes] was
> also
> > the first person to record the complete lute works of Bach on period
> > instruments (14-course baroque lute)."
> >
> > That same Wikipedia also offers this review: "[other guitarist's]
> exciting
> > and perceptive performances of the lute works, which were recorded
> between
> > 1981 and 1984, are light years better than the stilted, drab, and often
> > utterly stillborn interpretations of Narciso Yepes, who does not sound
> by
> > any means comfortable playing the lute (American record guide, 1984)."
> >
> > Best,
> > Eugene
> >
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
> >> Behalf Of dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:20 PM
> >> To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
> >> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute
> >>
> >>
> >>>Yes, I don't expect it to be up to much, but he did at least give
> it a
> >>>
> >>>go when no-one else would. Deserves recognition, I think.
> >>>
> >> Yes, but in context.  Pretty sure Segovia precedes him, my LPS are at
> home
> >> (I write this at the library); I have some Yepes and some Segovia LP's
> >> acquired in the early 60's, with a broad span of repetoire, including
> some
> >> vihuella and lute material - L da Milan and Bach for certain.
> >>
> >> Nigel North was another pioneer, I have at least one LP of his on
> theorbo
> >> from then as well.
> >> --
> >> Dana Emery
> >>
> >>
> 
> 
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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-08 Thread Luca Manassero
Many years ago (it must have been in 1983, I guess) I met Narciso Yepes 
in Torino, Italy at the end of one of his concerts at the Conservatorio. 
It was my first one and I was a great "fan" of him.
At that time I didn't know of his lute recording, but I had listen to 
his complete Bach lute works recording on the 10 strings guitar at least 
100 times. So I told him and I expressed my enthusiasm for it and he got 
back to me (I was 17 years old...) with a great smile and said: "throw 
it away, It's not good at all."


I had the pleasure to study (10 strings guitar, at that time) for a few 
years with one of his Italian students and met Narciso Yepes a few times 
more: he never meant too much of that recording, as far as I can remember.
But he was a true pioneer and really meant his 10 strings guitar as a 
way to stop "cutting away" while translating the so-called Back lute 
works for a 6 strings guitar. I still own those LP's and still believe 
that his interpretation was by far much more "musical" than what Segovia 
did in many cases. His recording of the Telemann (?)  4 Partitas 
together with Godelieve Monden is not bad at all, and (as far as I know) 
there's no similar recording on Baroque lutes.


Luca


Eugene C. Braig IV on 8-12-2009 19:36 wrote:

Segovia certainly didn't play Bach on any incarnation of lute...unless you
count modern guitars built to a Spanish paradigm as lutes.  Walter Gerwig
certainly deserves some recognition for an early lute-driven effort at Bach.

For what it's worth, the Yepes article in Wikipedia offers "[Yepes] was also
the first person to record the complete lute works of Bach on period
instruments (14-course baroque lute)."

That same Wikipedia also offers this review: "[other guitarist's] exciting
and perceptive performances of the lute works, which were recorded between
1981 and 1984, are light years better than the stilted, drab, and often
utterly stillborn interpretations of Narciso Yepes, who does not sound by
any means comfortable playing the lute (American record guide, 1984)."

Best,
Eugene


  

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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute



   Yes, I don't expect it to be up to much, but he did at least give it a
  
   go when no-one else would. Deserves recognition, I think.
  

Yes, but in context.  Pretty sure Segovia precedes him, my LPS are at home
(I write this at the library); I have some Yepes and some Segovia LP's
acquired in the early 60's, with a broad span of repetoire, including some
vihuella and lute material - L da Milan and Bach for certain.

Nigel North was another pioneer, I have at least one LP of his on theorbo
from then as well.
--
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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-08 Thread howard posner
Rob was talking about a "complete" recording of Bach's lute works
(never mind what that actually means).  Yepes stomped where angels
feared to tread.

On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Lex van Sante wrote:

> Eugen Muller Dombois did. (on a 14 course baroque lute).
> Gerwig did (on a ten course lute however)
> There is also a very old japanese recording of Toyohiko Satoh if I
> recall correctly (probably David van Ooijen knows more about that.)


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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-08 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Segovia certainly didn't play Bach on any incarnation of lute...unless you
count modern guitars built to a Spanish paradigm as lutes.  Walter Gerwig
certainly deserves some recognition for an early lute-driven effort at Bach.

For what it's worth, the Yepes article in Wikipedia offers "[Yepes] was also
the first person to record the complete lute works of Bach on period
instruments (14-course baroque lute)."

That same Wikipedia also offers this review: "[other guitarist's] exciting
and perceptive performances of the lute works, which were recorded between
1981 and 1984, are light years better than the stilted, drab, and often
utterly stillborn interpretations of Narciso Yepes, who does not sound by
any means comfortable playing the lute (American record guide, 1984)."

Best,
Eugene


> -Original Message-
> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
> Behalf Of dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:20 PM
> To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute
> 
> 
> >Yes, I don't expect it to be up to much, but he did at least give it
> a
> >go when no-one else would. Deserves recognition, I think.
> 
> Yes, but in context.  Pretty sure Segovia precedes him, my LPS are at home
> (I write this at the library); I have some Yepes and some Segovia LP's
> acquired in the early 60's, with a broad span of repetoire, including some
> vihuella and lute material - L da Milan and Bach for certain.
> 
> Nigel North was another pioneer, I have at least one LP of his on theorbo
> from then as well.
> --
> Dana Emery
> 
> 
> 
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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-08 Thread Lex van Sante

Eugen Muller Dombois did. (on a 14 course baroque lute).
Gerwig did (on a ten course lute however)
There is also a very old japanese recording of Toyohiko Satoh if I  
recall correctly (probably David van Ooijen knows more about that.)


Lex

Op 8 dec 2009, om 16:31 heeft Rob MacKillop het volgende geschreven:

  Yes, I don't expect it to be up to much, but he did at least give  
it a

  go when no-one else would. Deserves recognition, I think.



  Rob

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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-08 Thread demery

>Yes, I don't expect it to be up to much, but he did at least give it a
>go when no-one else would. Deserves recognition, I think.

Yes, but in context.  Pretty sure Segovia precedes him, my LPS are at home
(I write this at the library); I have some Yepes and some Segovia LP's
acquired in the early 60's, with a broad span of repetoire, including some
vihuella and lute material - L da Milan and Bach for certain.

Nigel North was another pioneer, I have at least one LP of his on theorbo
from then as well.
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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
   Yes, I don't expect it to be up to much, but he did at least give it a
   go when no-one else would. Deserves recognition, I think.



   Rob

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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-08 Thread howard posner

On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:05 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote:

> Has anyone got this recording?

I've heard the whole thing, and probably have a faded second-
generation cassette of bits of it somewhere.  It's not surprising
that it's not available now; it's pretty choppy and stiff.
Scuttlebutt in the 1980s was that the editor should have been
credited with the performance.
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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-08 Thread Lex van Sante
The opinion of Ingo is shared by Hopkinson Smith as stated by the  
sleeve notes of his recording of this work in the eighties.

He repeats this in his UT ORPHEUS edition of BWV 995.

Lex van Sante
Op 8 dec 2009, om 12:15 heeft Mathias Rösel het volgende geschreven:


Recently, Ingo Negwer has plausibly argued that Bach possibly had in
mind a transposed execution. The suite in G minor BVW 995 is written  
in

G (staff notation) but was intended to played in A on the lute. Can't
repeat Negwer's line of argument here, but IMHO that makes sense both
theoretically and practically (see: Ingo Negwer, Notentext und
intendierte musikalische Gestalt in Johann Sebastian Bachs Suite BWV
995, in: Die Laute, Nr. VIII, 2009, p. 93-105).

"Rob MacKillop"  schrieb:
  Jacob Lindberg also used a myriad of tunings for his Bach  
recording.




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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-08 Thread Kenneth Sparr
I have this album and is willing to part from it. Please contact me for details.

Regards

Kenneth Sparr

8 dec 2009 kl. 10.05 skrev Rob MacKillop:

>   In 1970, Deutsche Gramophone were recording the complete Bach oeuvre
>   and had a problem when it came to record the lute suites. Apparently
>   numerous lute players of the day turned down the invitation, saying the
>   works were too difficult. The guitarist, Narciso Yepes, famed for his
>   invention and advocacy of the modern ten-string classical guitar,
>   accepted the challenge. He is the only musician to record the complete
>   Bach solo lute music on both the lute and guitar. Apparently he once
>   recorded a suite on the lute in one tuning in the morning, and
>   performed the same suite in a concert that afternoon on the guitar in a
>   different tuning and arrangement.
> 
> 
>   Here is the info taken from the 1973 (some of the music was recorded in
>   1972) LP notes regarding the lute he used:
> 
> 
>   14c theorbo-lute by Nicolaas Bernard van der Waals, based on several
>   originals including a Tielke, Vienna.
> 
>   Length from angle of neck to end of body: 77.6cms
> 
>   Length of body 49.6cms
> 
>   Width of body 34.8
> 
>   Depth of body 16.5
> 
>   Length of neck: 28.1
> 
> 
>   Body Rio rosewood
> 
>   Sounding board spruce
> 
>   Peg-box maple
> 
>   Pegs cocobolo
> 
> 
>   His tunings seem to have been quite inventive:
> 
> 
>   G minor suite (treble to bass) fdafda G F Eb D C Bb A G
> 
>   E minor gebgeb A G F# E D C B
> 
>   PFA g eb bb g eb bb Ab G F Eb D C Bb Ab
> 
>   Cm g eb c g eb c G F Eb D C Bb Ab
> 
>   Little Prelude in Cm fdafda G F# Eb D
> 
>   Fugue in Gm fdafda G F Eb D C Bb A
> 
>   E Major suite Prelude: g# e b a e b A G# F# E D# C# B A for the rest of
>   the suite the a on the fourth course becomes g#
> 
> 
>   I have a pdf of the liner notes but not the recording, so I cant say
>   anything about its sound or his interpretation. However, as a
>   historical first, maybe we should acknowledge Yepes for the pioneering
>   work he did as a lute player. Has anyone got this recording?
> 
> 
> 
>   Rob MacKillop
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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
   Jacob Lindberg also used a myriad of tunings for his Bach recording.



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[LUTE] Re: Narciso Yepes and the lute

2009-12-08 Thread Martyn Hodgson

   Dear Rob,

   Interesting. When I first intabulated the 'lute' suites I found it
   advantageous to do something similar - basing the logic on some of the
   sharp and flat tunings sometimes still found in the 18th (ie not 17th)C
   eg Lauffensteiner's f# tuning. So that, for example, if you take the
   Yepes third tuning g eb Bb down a semitone it becomes f# d a  as in
   this f# tuning; in short the same intervals.

   rgds

   Martyn
   --- On Tue, 8/12/09, Rob MacKillop  wrote:

 From: Rob MacKillop 
 Subject: [LUTE] Narciso Yepes and the lute
 To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" 
 Date: Tuesday, 8 December, 2009, 9:05

  In 1970, Deutsche Gramophone were recording the complete Bach oeuvre
  and had a problem when it came to record the lute suites. Apparently
  numerous lute players of the day turned down the invitation, saying
   the
  works were too difficult. The guitarist, Narciso Yepes, famed for
   his
  invention and advocacy of the modern ten-string classical guitar,
  accepted the challenge. He is the only musician to record the
   complete
  Bach solo lute music on both the lute and guitar. Apparently he once
  recorded a suite on the lute in one tuning in the morning, and
  performed the same suite in a concert that afternoon on the guitar
   in a
  different tuning and arrangement.
  Here is the info taken from the 1973 (some of the music was recorded
   in
  1972) LP notes regarding the lute he used:
  14c theorbo-lute by Nicolaas Bernard van der Waals, based on several
  originals including a Tielke, Vienna.
  Length from angle of neck to end of body: 77.6cms
  Length of body 49.6cms
  Width of body 34.8
  Depth of body 16.5
  Length of neck: 28.1
  Body Rio rosewood
  Sounding board spruce
  Peg-box maple
  Pegs cocobolo
  His tunings seem to have been quite inventive:
  G minor suite (treble to bass) fdafda G F Eb D C Bb A G
  E minor gebgeb A G F# E D C B
  PFA g eb bb g eb bb Ab G F Eb D C Bb Ab
  Cm g eb c g eb c G F Eb D C Bb Ab
  Little Prelude in Cm fdafda G F# Eb D
  Fugue in Gm fdafda G F Eb D C Bb A
  E Major suite Prelude: g# e b a e b A G# F# E D# C# B A for the rest
   of
  the suite the a on the fourth course becomes g#
  I have a pdf of the liner notes but not the recording, so I cant say
  anything about its sound or his interpretation. However, as a
  historical first, maybe we should acknowledge Yepes for the
   pioneering
  work he did as a lute player. Has anyone got this recording?
  Rob MacKillop
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