Re: include_form.fd, bibforms.fd

2000-11-23 Thread John Levon
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Angus Leeming wrote: Conversely, lyx_sendfax.fd and ref.fd are no longer used. They should be removed. Shall I do it? Angus and it seems support/fileblocks.c isn't used either. And IMHO Timeout.[Ch] should be in support/ john -- "All the passengers carry their

1.1.6pre2

2000-11-23 Thread Angus Leeming
All goes well making the new tar file on ftp.devel.lyx.org Angus

projects [was: Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend]

2000-11-23 Thread John Levon
On 22 Nov 2000, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: - the NEW_INSET code that you mentioned. (lot still missing, itemize/enumerate is still hardcoded, insetfloat needs some work ...) - the restructureing of internal storage formats (from implicit home grown linked list to std::containers) And

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Allan Rae wrote: Dear Allan, Let me try to summarize some of your points: 1) Being independent is better, since you'll potentially last longer in a changing environment 2) Different GUI frontends creates competition, and thus more innovation 3) Different frontends

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Martin Vermeer wrote: As one who is actually more concerned with this user focus than with the code, I still have to say that I can understand it. I can see that writing excellent code is laying the basis for developing an excellent application. That's why I very much

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread John Levon
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: Would you be still be enthusiastic to participate in LyX development if GUII was dropped and focus was on Qt as the main toolkit? Greets, Asger It seems to me that the implemented framework is a reasonable method for providing exactly

PATCH: redraw and ButtonController

2000-11-23 Thread Angus Leeming
Attached is a large-ish patch of small bits. It does essentially two things: * All xforms forms are now connected to the redrawGUI signal (ie, the old, legacy ones have been connected). Everything should look professional now if the user changes the xforms GUI colors. * Almost all the new,

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 23 November 2000 12:35, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: Indirectly, you acknowledge that Matthias is right about one thing: GUII takes a long time. The basic question then remains: Is GUII worth it? Please distinguish between GUII and model/view separation. These things

1.1.6pre2 in stable directory

2000-11-23 Thread larry
Shouldn't it have been put in the /devel directory?

Re: Using rope instead of vector in LyXParagraph

2000-11-23 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 11:28:33PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjnnes wrote: I just did some testing on _very_ large paragraphs, and it seems that rope has a lot better memory usage and is faster than vector. This is best noticed when inserting and you insert so much thata the vector/rope needs to

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread Jürgen Vigna
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this point, LyX development is less need-driven than ever. The developers also do not do the work because they want more respect of users. The existing users crowd is already enthuisiatic, and it does not matter whether there are 100,000 users or

Patch: default value for new labels

2000-11-23 Thread Dekel Tsur
This patch does the following: - Compute a default value for new labels. This feature can be turned off using the label_init_length lyxrc variable (which should added to the preferences dialog) - When a label in math display/eqnarray is changed, all the references to it are changed.

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread Jürgen Vigna
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've kept everybody waiting long enough... It's a long reply... really long but then you wouldn't believe I wrote it if it was short. I think I covered everything. You got me and I really expected something like this from you (and I thought Asgers

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread Jürgen Vigna
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Therefore it is relevant informally to ask all the developers: Would you be still be enthusiastic to participate in LyX development if GUII was dropped and focus was on Qt as the main toolkit? Well my answer is: NO! (I love short mails ;)

Re: PATCH: redraw and ButtonController

2000-11-23 Thread Allan Rae
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Angus Leeming wrote: * FormRef should have Restore and Apply buttons. Still thinking about how to do this best. What exactly do you need to consider? Apart from the choice of policy? Policy choice: 1. Is it affected by a buffer being read only?

A couple of LyX history questions

2000-11-23 Thread Allan Rae
Actually, while I have your attention can I get you to answer a couple of questions for LDN? Lars, Asger and possibly JMarc also know the answers. This will help me get the "History of GUII" article complete and make the 10th issue of LDN really special. ## 1. When LyX first started you used

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread Allan Rae
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Allan Rae wrote: Dear Allan, Let me try to summarize some of your points: 1) Being independent is better, since you'll potentially last longer in a changing environment 2) Different GUI frontends creates

Crash on complex document

2000-11-23 Thread Hartmut S. Leipner
Lyx works fine for me with rather short files. But I'm writing now a rather long document with lots of figures inserted, references, tables etc. The problem is now, I can't view or print the file without a crash. However, export as latex and a further processing of the latex file separately

CJK-LyX-1.1.5fix2

2000-11-23 Thread ChangGil Han
Hello, CJK-LyX-1.1.5fix2 has been uploaded to the usual place, ftp://stone.phys.pusan.ac.kr/pub/CJK-LyX Sorry that it comes out a month late. Further infos are found at http://cellular.phys.pusan.ac.kr/cjk.html Regards, cghan

Re: include_form.fd, bibforms.fd

2000-11-23 Thread John Levon
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Angus Leeming wrote: > Conversely, lyx_sendfax.fd and ref.fd are no longer used. They should be > removed. > > Shall I do it? > Angus and it seems support/fileblocks.c isn't used either. And IMHO Timeout.[Ch] should be in support/ john -- "All the passengers carry

1.1.6pre2

2000-11-23 Thread Angus Leeming
All goes well making the new tar file on ftp.devel.lyx.org Angus

projects [was: Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend]

2000-11-23 Thread John Levon
On 22 Nov 2000, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > - the NEW_INSET code that you mentioned. (lot still missing, > itemize/enumerate is still hardcoded, insetfloat needs some work ...) > - the restructureing of internal storage formats (from implicit home > grown linked list to std::containers) And

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Allan Rae wrote: Dear Allan, Let me try to summarize some of your points: 1) Being independent is better, since you'll potentially last longer in a changing environment 2) Different GUI frontends creates competition, and thus more innovation 3) Different frontends

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Martin Vermeer wrote: > As one who is actually more concerned with this user focus than with the > code, I still have to say that I can understand it. I can see that > writing excellent code is laying the basis for developing an excellent > application. That's why I very

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread John Levon
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > Would you be still be enthusiastic to participate in LyX development if > GUII was dropped and focus was on Qt as the main toolkit? > > Greets, > > Asger It seems to me that the implemented framework is a reasonable method for providing

PATCH: redraw and ButtonController

2000-11-23 Thread Angus Leeming
Attached is a large-ish patch of small bits. It does essentially two things: * All xforms forms are now connected to the redrawGUI signal (ie, the old, legacy ones have been connected). Everything should look professional now if the user changes the xforms GUI colors. * Almost all the new,

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 23 November 2000 12:35, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > Indirectly, you acknowledge that Matthias is right about one thing: > > GUII takes a long time. > > The basic question then remains: Is GUII worth it? > > Please distinguish between GUII and model/view separation. These

1.1.6pre2 in "stable" directory

2000-11-23 Thread larry
Shouldn't it have been put in the /devel directory?

Re: Using rope instead of vector in LyXParagraph

2000-11-23 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 11:28:33PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjnnes wrote: > > I just did some testing on _very_ large paragraphs, and it seems that > rope has a lot better memory usage and is faster than vector. This is > best noticed when inserting and you insert so much thata the > vector/rope needs

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread Jürgen Vigna
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > At this point, LyX development is less need-driven than ever. > The developers also do not do the work because they want more > respect of users. The existing users crowd is already enthuisiatic, > and it does not matter whether there are 100,000 users or >

Patch: default value for new labels

2000-11-23 Thread Dekel Tsur
This patch does the following: - Compute a default value for new labels. This feature can be turned off using the label_init_length lyxrc variable (which should added to the preferences dialog) - When a label in math display/eqnarray is changed, all the references to it are changed.

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread Jürgen Vigna
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I've kept everybody waiting long enough... >It's a long reply... really long but then you wouldn't believe I wrote it >if it was short. I think I covered everything. You got me and I really expected something like this from you (and I thought

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread Jürgen Vigna
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Therefore it is relevant informally to ask all the developers: >Would you be still be enthusiastic to participate in LyX development if >GUII was dropped and focus was on Qt as the main toolkit? Well my answer is: NO! (I love short mails ;)

Re: PATCH: redraw and ButtonController

2000-11-23 Thread Allan Rae
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Angus Leeming wrote: > * FormRef should have Restore and Apply buttons. Still thinking about how to > do this best. What exactly do you need to consider? Apart from the choice of policy? Policy choice: 1. Is it affected by a buffer being read only?

A couple of LyX history questions

2000-11-23 Thread Allan Rae
Actually, while I have your attention can I get you to answer a couple of questions for LDN? Lars, Asger and possibly JMarc also know the answers. This will help me get the "History of GUII" article complete and make the 10th issue of LDN really special. ## 1. When LyX first started you used

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-23 Thread Allan Rae
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Allan Rae wrote: > > Dear Allan, > > Let me try to summarize some of your points: > > 1) Being independent is better, since you'll potentially last longer in >a changing environment > 2) Different GUI frontends

Crash on complex document

2000-11-23 Thread Hartmut S. Leipner
Lyx works fine for me with rather short files. But I'm writing now a rather long document with lots of figures inserted, references, tables etc. The problem is now, I can't view or print the file without a crash. However, export as latex and a further processing of the latex file separately

CJK-LyX-1.1.5fix2

2000-11-23 Thread ChangGil Han
Hello, CJK-LyX-1.1.5fix2 has been uploaded to the usual place, ftp://stone.phys.pusan.ac.kr/pub/CJK-LyX Sorry that it comes out a month late. Further infos are found at http://cellular.phys.pusan.ac.kr/cjk.html Regards, cghan