Re: New Win installer ready for LyX 2.3.0

2018-03-25 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 12:44:32PM +, Pavel Sanda wrote: > racoon wrote: > > If the user denies to update MiKTeX, LyX will not be installed. So > > any amateur user will finally answer the question affirmative, I believe. > > I don't follow why Uwe's fears damaging the user installation

Re: New Win installer ready for LyX 2.3.0

2018-03-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 23/03/2018 à 10:33, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : It doesn't help if you ask users who knows what a package is, if they would understand such a dialog. The dialog proposals that I have seen where about updating MikTeX. There is no mention package or dependencies or even console (?). Why are you

Re: New Win installer ready for LyX 2.3.0

2018-03-23 Thread Pavel Sanda
racoon wrote: > If the user denies to update MiKTeX, LyX will not be installed. So > any amateur user will finally answer the question affirmative, I believe. I don't follow why Uwe's fears damaging the user installation either. If the dialog shows before any installation process starts and

Re: New Win installer ready for LyX 2.3.0

2018-03-23 Thread racoon
On 23.03.2018 10:33, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 23.03.2018 um 05:22 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: I understand your argument. I disagree that adding a dialog would hurt the vast majority more than it would help it That is the fundamental disagreement. It doesn't help if you ask users who knows what a

Re: New Win installer ready for LyX 2.3.0

2018-03-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 23.03.2018 um 05:22 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: I understand your argument. I disagree that adding a dialog would hurt the vast majority more than it would help it That is the fundamental disagreement. It doesn't help if you ask users who knows what a package is, if they would understand

Fwd: Re: New Win installer ready for LyX 2.3.0

2018-03-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Dear Ben, many thanks for your reply. I am forwarding it to the mailing list that others can follow the discussion: Thanks for the answer, First point: What I mean is that when you choose LyX:Preferences -> Language Settings -> Default Keyboard

Re: New Win installer ready for LyX 2.3.0

2018-03-22 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 11:48:43PM +, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 22.03.2018 um 06:34 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > > Thank you for this detailed explanation. It's unfortunate that we have > > this disagreement on what is best for the users, but I appreciate that > > you have put a lot of thought

Re: New Win installer ready for LyX 2.3.0

2018-03-22 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 22.03.2018 um 06:34 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: Thank you for this detailed explanation. It's unfortunate that we have this disagreement on what is best for the users, but I appreciate that you have put a lot of thought into your decision and I know that you care a lot about the users. Don't

Re: New Win installer ready for LyX 2.3.0

2018-03-21 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 02:09:51AM +, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Dear LyXers, > > I just uploaded a new installer version 6: > http://ftp.lyx.de/LyXWinInstaller/LyX2.3.0/ > > The only change compared to the previous version is that the bundle > installer contains the latest miktex-basic installer.

Re: New Win installer ready for LyX 2.3.0

2018-03-21 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 21.03.2018 um 15:07 schrieb Ben Houcine: I will drop some of my remarks here: - Key binding in LyX should be improved because the standard keybinding bundled with LyX fit more the American qwerty keyboard. I have my own keybinding to the French azerty keyboard Dear Ben, LyX can be used

New Win installer ready for LyX 2.3.0

2018-03-20 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Dear LyXers, I just uploaded a new installer version 6: http://ftp.lyx.de/LyXWinInstaller/LyX2.3.0/ The only change compared to the previous version is that the bundle installer contains the latest miktex-basic installer. This fixes some bugs for users installing LyX (with LaTeX) the first