Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-10 Thread Gregory Jefferis
On 7 Dec 2012, at 17:46, Nico Williams wrote: On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/12/12 12:45, Gregory Jefferis wrote: Has anyone tried using latexdiff for change comparison in not merging? Presumably a small script to export both versions to latex,

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/09/2012 10:27 PM, David L. Johnson wrote: On 12/09/2012 07:23 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: I am opposed to this. What is the benefit of a layout for a journal submission class you cannot use for submission to that journal? Why should we invest time to write and, more important, to maintain it?

[BUG] Custom insets 1: ResetsFont

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/08/2012 04:16 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: I'm trying to clarify some issues about custom insets. (I have a project that makes heavy use of them.) The Customization manual says (Sect. 5.3.9 on flex insets): ResetsFont [0,1] Whether this inset should use the font of its surrounding

Pipe in FlexInset Names

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/08/2012 04:17 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: (1) If an inset name contains a vertical bar, |, the part after the bar is not shown in the Insert Custom Insets list, but is retained in LyX format. Using the schema, inset definition = Custom Insets list = LyX file format, InsetLayout

Re: Custom insets 3: CopyStyle

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/08/2012 04:17 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: Does CopyStyle do *anything* in custom insets? I was just about to send off another Custom insets query when a last trial--error thought struck me: although CopyStyle name doesn't seem to do anything, where name is the name of a previously

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread obregonmateo
I think people are missing the point here ... Lyx is *great* for writing and getting references and labels right! This goes for APA journals as much as for math/engineering journals. I have co-authored several articles for APA journals and the pay-off of writing them in Lyx and then getting

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Jacob Bishop
I recently shifted from Engineering to Psychology (actually Engineering Education, but I am currently preparing a publication for an APA journal). I used LyX for my masters' thesis, and LaTeX is the only acceptable thesis format for some of the Engineering departments. When professors started

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Ray Rashif
On 11 December 2012 01:21, Jacob Bishop bishop.ja...@gmail.com wrote: have found very few people in the social sciences who are even aware of LaTeX. Not closed minded, just unaware. They use MS Word and Endnote because they don't know that there are good/better (free) alternatives. And this

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread stefano franchi
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Ray Rashif schivmeis...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 December 2012 01:21, Jacob Bishop bishop.ja...@gmail.com wrote: have found very few people in the social sciences who are even aware of LaTeX. Not closed minded, just unaware. They use MS Word and Endnote

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread David L. Johnson
On 12/10/2012 02:01 PM, stefano franchi wrote: rant 8 Such programs [Word and Wordstar] (and still are) were usually very bad at typesetting complex mathematical formulas unless each single formula was tweaked by hand, a very painful and expensive proposition. That was prompted D Knuth to

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/10/2012 02:29 PM, David L. Johnson wrote: On 12/10/2012 02:01 PM, stefano franchi wrote: The same radical cost-cutting measures took place in the Natural sciences/Engineering, of course. But since *they* were already using Latex/TeX, the quality of their journal and books was only

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote: I think people are missing the point here ... Lyx is *great* for writing and getting references and labels right! This goes for APA journals as much as for math/engineering journals. I have co-authored several articles for APA

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Rob Oakes
If you're going to go the customization route, this might be of help: http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2009/11/02/custom-lyx-nih It talks about creating a custom layout for an existing document class. Related posts with more examples can be found at:

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/10/2012 03:07 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote: I think people are missing the point here ... Lyx is *great* for writing and getting references and labels right! This goes for APA journals as much as for math/engineering

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Ray Rashif
On 11 December 2012 03:01, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: rant Not true. LyX/Latex's benefits are not limited to typesetting equations (although it does a much better job that its competition in that area). A Latex-typeset document looks better in many other respects---from

No bibliography environment in DocBook document class

2012-12-10 Thread Nico Williams
Why is there no bibliography environment in the DocBook document classes? There must be a reason, of course, but then, bibtex is still supported, so that's strange... Nico --

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread stefano franchi
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:29 PM, David L. Johnson david.john...@lehigh.eduwrote: On 12/10/2012 02:01 PM, stefano franchi wrote: rant 8 Such programs [Word and Wordstar] (and still are) were usually very bad at typesetting complex mathematical formulas unless each single formula was

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread David L. Johnson
On 12/10/2012 05:51 PM, stefano franchi wrote: /really end rant Cheers, Hullabaloo, caneck, caneck. -- David L. Johnson Become MicroSoft-free forever. Ask me how.

Re: No bibliography environment in DocBook document class

2012-12-10 Thread José Matos
On 12/10/2012 10:46 PM, Nico Williams wrote: Why is there no bibliography environment in the DocBook document classes? There must be a reason, of course, but then, bibtex is still supported, so that's strange... Nico -- The reason why it was never implemented is/was lake of time, no more

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 10.12.2012 02:33, schrieb Kayvan Sylvan: They accept PDF submissions, so I suppose you could use apa6 in LyX if it's available and export to PDF. This seems to be the case, but only for supplements as I understood this and TeX is explicitly not allowed:

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread obregonmateo
Each APA-type journal has its own list of document types that it accepts; these journals are only guided by the APA _style_ conventions. All journals in psychology etc. that I have come across accept tex manuscripts, as long as the tex file contains everything the authors use (i.e., macros) and

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 11.12.2012 01:14, schrieb obregonma...@gmail.com: Each APA-type journal has its own list of document types that it accepts; these journals are only guided by the APA _style_ conventions. All journals in psychology etc. that I have come across accept tex manuscripts, as long as the tex

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread obregonmateo
Thanks Uwe for offering to review a layout for APA6. Others here are also interested in making this work, so I'm sure we'll have something soon for you to look at. Mateo. On Tuesday 11 December 2012, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 11.12.2012 01:14, schrieb obregonma...@gmail.com: Each APA-type

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-10 Thread Gregory Jefferis
On 7 Dec 2012, at 17:46, Nico Williams wrote: On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/12/12 12:45, Gregory Jefferis wrote: Has anyone tried using latexdiff for change comparison in not merging? Presumably a small script to export both versions to latex,

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/09/2012 10:27 PM, David L. Johnson wrote: On 12/09/2012 07:23 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: I am opposed to this. What is the benefit of a layout for a journal submission class you cannot use for submission to that journal? Why should we invest time to write and, more important, to maintain it?

[BUG] Custom insets 1: ResetsFont

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/08/2012 04:16 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: I'm trying to clarify some issues about custom insets. (I have a project that makes heavy use of them.) The Customization manual says (Sect. 5.3.9 on flex insets): ResetsFont [0,1] Whether this inset should use the font of its surrounding

Pipe in FlexInset Names

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/08/2012 04:17 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: (1) If an inset name contains a vertical bar, |, the part after the bar is not shown in the Insert Custom Insets list, but is retained in LyX format. Using the schema, inset definition = Custom Insets list = LyX file format, InsetLayout

Re: Custom insets 3: CopyStyle

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/08/2012 04:17 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: Does CopyStyle do *anything* in custom insets? I was just about to send off another Custom insets query when a last trial--error thought struck me: although CopyStyle name doesn't seem to do anything, where name is the name of a previously

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread obregonmateo
I think people are missing the point here ... Lyx is *great* for writing and getting references and labels right! This goes for APA journals as much as for math/engineering journals. I have co-authored several articles for APA journals and the pay-off of writing them in Lyx and then getting

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Jacob Bishop
I recently shifted from Engineering to Psychology (actually Engineering Education, but I am currently preparing a publication for an APA journal). I used LyX for my masters' thesis, and LaTeX is the only acceptable thesis format for some of the Engineering departments. When professors started

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Ray Rashif
On 11 December 2012 01:21, Jacob Bishop bishop.ja...@gmail.com wrote: have found very few people in the social sciences who are even aware of LaTeX. Not closed minded, just unaware. They use MS Word and Endnote because they don't know that there are good/better (free) alternatives. And this

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread stefano franchi
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Ray Rashif schivmeis...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 December 2012 01:21, Jacob Bishop bishop.ja...@gmail.com wrote: have found very few people in the social sciences who are even aware of LaTeX. Not closed minded, just unaware. They use MS Word and Endnote

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread David L. Johnson
On 12/10/2012 02:01 PM, stefano franchi wrote: rant 8 Such programs [Word and Wordstar] (and still are) were usually very bad at typesetting complex mathematical formulas unless each single formula was tweaked by hand, a very painful and expensive proposition. That was prompted D Knuth to

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/10/2012 02:29 PM, David L. Johnson wrote: On 12/10/2012 02:01 PM, stefano franchi wrote: The same radical cost-cutting measures took place in the Natural sciences/Engineering, of course. But since *they* were already using Latex/TeX, the quality of their journal and books was only

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote: I think people are missing the point here ... Lyx is *great* for writing and getting references and labels right! This goes for APA journals as much as for math/engineering journals. I have co-authored several articles for APA

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Rob Oakes
If you're going to go the customization route, this might be of help: http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2009/11/02/custom-lyx-nih It talks about creating a custom layout for an existing document class. Related posts with more examples can be found at:

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/10/2012 03:07 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, obregonma...@gmail.com wrote: I think people are missing the point here ... Lyx is *great* for writing and getting references and labels right! This goes for APA journals as much as for math/engineering

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Ray Rashif
On 11 December 2012 03:01, stefano franchi stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote: rant Not true. LyX/Latex's benefits are not limited to typesetting equations (although it does a much better job that its competition in that area). A Latex-typeset document looks better in many other respects---from

No bibliography environment in DocBook document class

2012-12-10 Thread Nico Williams
Why is there no bibliography environment in the DocBook document classes? There must be a reason, of course, but then, bibtex is still supported, so that's strange... Nico --

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread stefano franchi
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:29 PM, David L. Johnson david.john...@lehigh.eduwrote: On 12/10/2012 02:01 PM, stefano franchi wrote: rant 8 Such programs [Word and Wordstar] (and still are) were usually very bad at typesetting complex mathematical formulas unless each single formula was

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread David L. Johnson
On 12/10/2012 05:51 PM, stefano franchi wrote: /really end rant Cheers, Hullabaloo, caneck, caneck. -- David L. Johnson Become MicroSoft-free forever. Ask me how.

Re: No bibliography environment in DocBook document class

2012-12-10 Thread José Matos
On 12/10/2012 10:46 PM, Nico Williams wrote: Why is there no bibliography environment in the DocBook document classes? There must be a reason, of course, but then, bibtex is still supported, so that's strange... Nico -- The reason why it was never implemented is/was lake of time, no more

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 10.12.2012 02:33, schrieb Kayvan Sylvan: They accept PDF submissions, so I suppose you could use apa6 in LyX if it's available and export to PDF. This seems to be the case, but only for supplements as I understood this and TeX is explicitly not allowed:

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread obregonmateo
Each APA-type journal has its own list of document types that it accepts; these journals are only guided by the APA _style_ conventions. All journals in psychology etc. that I have come across accept tex manuscripts, as long as the tex file contains everything the authors use (i.e., macros) and

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 11.12.2012 01:14, schrieb obregonma...@gmail.com: Each APA-type journal has its own list of document types that it accepts; these journals are only guided by the APA _style_ conventions. All journals in psychology etc. that I have come across accept tex manuscripts, as long as the tex

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread obregonmateo
Thanks Uwe for offering to review a layout for APA6. Others here are also interested in making this work, so I'm sure we'll have something soon for you to look at. Mateo. On Tuesday 11 December 2012, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 11.12.2012 01:14, schrieb obregonma...@gmail.com: Each APA-type

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-10 Thread Gregory Jefferis
On 7 Dec 2012, at 17:46, Nico Williams wrote: > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: >> On 07/12/12 12:45, Gregory Jefferis wrote: >>> Has anyone tried using latexdiff for change comparison in not merging? >>> Presumably a small script to export both

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/09/2012 10:27 PM, David L. Johnson wrote: On 12/09/2012 07:23 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: I am opposed to this. What is the benefit of a layout for a journal submission class you cannot use for submission to that journal? Why should we invest time to write and, more important, to maintain it?

[BUG] Custom insets 1: ResetsFont

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/08/2012 04:16 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: I'm trying to clarify some issues about custom insets. (I have a project that makes heavy use of them.) The Customization manual says (Sect. 5.3.9 on flex insets): ResetsFont [0,1] Whether this inset should use the font of its surrounding

Pipe in FlexInset Names

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/08/2012 04:17 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: (1) If an inset name contains a vertical bar, |, the part after the bar is not shown in the Insert > Custom Insets list, but is retained in LyX format. Using the schema, inset definition => Custom Insets list => LyX file format, InsetLayout

Re: Custom insets 3: CopyStyle

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/08/2012 04:17 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: Does CopyStyle do *anything* in custom insets? I was just about to send off another Custom insets query when a last trial-&-error thought struck me: although CopyStyle doesn't seem to do anything, where is the name of a previously defined

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread obregonmateo
I think people are missing the point here ... Lyx is *great* for writing and getting references and labels right! This goes for APA journals as much as for math/engineering journals. I have co-authored several articles for APA journals and the pay-off of writing them in Lyx and then getting

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Jacob Bishop
I recently shifted from Engineering to Psychology (actually Engineering Education, but I am currently preparing a publication for an APA journal). I used LyX for my masters' thesis, and LaTeX is the only acceptable thesis format for some of the Engineering departments. When professors started

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Ray Rashif
On 11 December 2012 01:21, Jacob Bishop wrote: > have found very few people in the social sciences who are even aware of > LaTeX. Not closed minded, just unaware. They use MS Word and Endnote because > they don't know that there are good/better (free) alternatives. And

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread stefano franchi
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Ray Rashif wrote: > On 11 December 2012 01:21, Jacob Bishop wrote: > > have found very few people in the social sciences who are even aware of > > LaTeX. Not closed minded, just unaware. They use MS Word and

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread David L. Johnson
On 12/10/2012 02:01 PM, stefano franchi wrote: 8< Such programs [Word and Wordstar] (and still are) were usually very bad at typesetting complex mathematical formulas unless each single formula was tweaked by hand, a very painful and expensive proposition. That was prompted D Knuth to

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/10/2012 02:29 PM, David L. Johnson wrote: On 12/10/2012 02:01 PM, stefano franchi wrote: The same radical cost-cutting measures took place in the Natural sciences/Engineering, of course. But since *they* were already using Latex/TeX, the quality of their journal and books was only

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, wrote: > I think people are missing the point here ... Lyx is *great* for writing and > getting references and labels right! This goes for APA journals as much as > for math/engineering journals. > > I have co-authored several articles

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Rob Oakes
If you're going to go the customization route, this might be of help: http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2009/11/02/custom-lyx-nih It talks about creating a custom layout for an existing document class. Related posts with more examples can be found at:

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/10/2012 03:07 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, wrote: I think people are missing the point here ... Lyx is *great* for writing and getting references and labels right! This goes for APA journals as much as for math/engineering

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Ray Rashif
On 11 December 2012 03:01, stefano franchi wrote: > > Not true. LyX/Latex's benefits are not limited to typesetting equations > (although it does a much better job that its competition in that area). A > Latex-typeset document looks better in many other respects---from

No bibliography environment in DocBook document class

2012-12-10 Thread Nico Williams
Why is there no bibliography environment in the DocBook document classes? There must be a reason, of course, but then, bibtex is still supported, so that's strange... Nico --

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread stefano franchi
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:29 PM, David L. Johnson wrote: > On 12/10/2012 02:01 PM, stefano franchi wrote: > >> >> >> > 8< > >> Such programs [Word and Wordstar] (and still are) were usually very bad >> at typesetting complex mathematical formulas unless each single

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread David L. Johnson
On 12/10/2012 05:51 PM, stefano franchi wrote: Cheers, Hullabaloo, caneck, caneck. -- David L. Johnson Become MicroSoft-free forever. Ask me how.

Re: No bibliography environment in DocBook document class

2012-12-10 Thread José Matos
On 12/10/2012 10:46 PM, Nico Williams wrote: > Why is there no bibliography environment in the DocBook document > classes? There must be a reason, of course, but then, bibtex is still > supported, so that's strange... > > Nico > -- The reason why it was never implemented is/was lake of time, no

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 10.12.2012 02:33, schrieb Kayvan Sylvan: They accept PDF submissions, so I suppose you could use apa6 in LyX if it's available and export to PDF. This seems to be the case, but only for supplements as I understood this and TeX is explicitly not allowed:

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread obregonmateo
Each APA-type journal has its own list of document types that it accepts; these journals are only guided by the APA _style_ conventions. All journals in psychology etc. that I have come across accept tex manuscripts, as long as the tex file contains everything the authors use (i.e., macros) and

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 11.12.2012 01:14, schrieb obregonma...@gmail.com: Each APA-type journal has its own list of document types that it accepts; these journals are only guided by the APA _style_ conventions. All journals in psychology etc. that I have come across accept tex manuscripts, as long as the tex

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-10 Thread obregonmateo
Thanks Uwe for offering to review a layout for APA6. Others here are also interested in making this work, so I'm sure we'll have something soon for you to look at. Mateo. On Tuesday 11 December 2012, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 11.12.2012 01:14, schrieb obregonma...@gmail.com: > > > Each APA-type