Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-11 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-05-10, Diego Queiroz wrote: For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone compilation of documents setting a master (except for included (vs. input) documents). This is a strong restriction. But the only one for truly consistent behaviour. If you want to

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-11 Thread Diego Queiroz
But the only one for truly consistent behaviour. If you want to export stand-alone, uncheck the master setting. Even if the master setting is not set in the child, LyX still display all macros perfectly if the master document is open. My complaint is this: if LyX is able to interpret things

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-11 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-05-11, Diego Queiroz wrote: [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: --] But the only one for truly consistent behaviour. If you want to export stand-alone, uncheck the master setting. Even if the master setting is not set in the child, LyX still display all macros perfectly if the master

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-11 Thread Diego Queiroz
A show output anyway button would be great. However, if LyX consistency were assured, there's no need for it (expect when using ERT). ... or the LaTeX preamble (1) or an outdated TeX distribution (2) or a package combination with conflicts (3) or ... (?) Günter I repeat: if, and

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-11 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-05-10, Diego Queiroz wrote: For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone compilation of documents setting a master (except for included (vs. input) documents). This is a strong restriction. But the only one for truly consistent behaviour. If you want to

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-11 Thread Diego Queiroz
But the only one for truly consistent behaviour. If you want to export stand-alone, uncheck the master setting. Even if the master setting is not set in the child, LyX still display all macros perfectly if the master document is open. My complaint is this: if LyX is able to interpret things

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-11 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-05-11, Diego Queiroz wrote: [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: --] But the only one for truly consistent behaviour. If you want to export stand-alone, uncheck the master setting. Even if the master setting is not set in the child, LyX still display all macros perfectly if the master

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-11 Thread Diego Queiroz
A show output anyway button would be great. However, if LyX consistency were assured, there's no need for it (expect when using ERT). ... or the LaTeX preamble (1) or an outdated TeX distribution (2) or a package combination with conflicts (3) or ... (?) Günter I repeat: if, and

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-11 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-05-10, Diego Queiroz wrote: >> >>> For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone >> >>> compilation of documents setting a master (except for "included" (vs. >> >>> "input") documents). > This is a strong restriction. But the only one for truly consistent

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-11 Thread Diego Queiroz
> > But the only one for truly consistent behaviour. If you want to export > stand-alone, uncheck the master setting. > Even if the master setting is not set in the child, LyX still display all macros perfectly if the master document is open. My complaint is this: if LyX is able to interpret

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-11 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-05-11, Diego Queiroz wrote: > [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: --] >> But the only one for truly consistent behaviour. If you want to export >> stand-alone, uncheck the master setting. > Even if the master setting is not set in the child, LyX still display all > macros perfectly if the

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-11 Thread Diego Queiroz
> > > A "show output anyway" button would be great. > > However, if LyX consistency were assured, there's no need for it (expect > > when using ERT). > > ... or the LaTeX preamble (1) or an outdated TeX distribution (2) or a > package > combination with conflicts (3) or ... (?) > > Günter > I

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-05-09, Diego Queiroz wrote: But what if you really want to compile it as a standalone document? People do this. Richard But if it was really a standalone document, I would have to unset master document property, right? ... I am just looking for a more user oriented behavior. I

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Guenter Milde wrote: For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone compilation of documents setting a master (except for included (vs. input) documents). Why this? I have many documents with a master set that get compiled stand- alone from time to time and should _not_

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-05-10, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Guenter Milde wrote: For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone compilation of documents setting a master (except for included (vs. input) documents). Why this? I have many documents with a master set that get compiled stand-

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/10/2011 09:09 AM, Guenter Milde wrote: On 2011-05-10, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Guenter Milde wrote: For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone compilation of documents setting a master (except for included (vs. input) documents). Why this? I have many

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Diego Queiroz
For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone compilation of documents setting a master (except for included (vs. input) documents). This is a strong restriction. With this, in a document with thousand of pages I will obligated to generate all pages? I do not agree.

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-05-09, Diego Queiroz wrote: But what if you really want to compile it as a standalone document? People do this. Richard But if it was really a standalone document, I would have to unset master document property, right? ... I am just looking for a more user oriented behavior. I

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Guenter Milde wrote: For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone compilation of documents setting a master (except for included (vs. input) documents). Why this? I have many documents with a master set that get compiled stand- alone from time to time and should _not_

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-05-10, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Guenter Milde wrote: For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone compilation of documents setting a master (except for included (vs. input) documents). Why this? I have many documents with a master set that get compiled stand-

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/10/2011 09:09 AM, Guenter Milde wrote: On 2011-05-10, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Guenter Milde wrote: For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone compilation of documents setting a master (except for included (vs. input) documents). Why this? I have many

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Diego Queiroz
For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone compilation of documents setting a master (except for included (vs. input) documents). This is a strong restriction. With this, in a document with thousand of pages I will obligated to generate all pages? I do not agree.

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-05-09, Diego Queiroz wrote: >> But what if you really want to compile it as a standalone document? >> People do this. >> Richard > But if it was really a standalone document, I would have to unset master > document property, right? ... > I am just looking for a more "user oriented

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Guenter Milde wrote: > For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone > compilation of documents setting a master (except for "included" (vs. > "input") documents). Why this? I have many documents with a master set that get compiled stand- alone from time to time and should

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2011-05-10, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Guenter Milde wrote: >> For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone >> compilation of documents setting a master (except for "included" (vs. >> "input") documents). > Why this? I have many documents with a master set that get

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/10/2011 09:09 AM, Guenter Milde wrote: > On 2011-05-10, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >> Guenter Milde wrote: >>> For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone >>> compilation of documents setting a master (except for "included" (vs. >>> "input") documents). >> Why this? I

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-10 Thread Diego Queiroz
> > >>> For truly consistent behaviour, we would have to disable stand-alone > >>> compilation of documents setting a master (except for "included" (vs. > >>> "input") documents). > This is a strong restriction. With this, in a document with thousand of pages I will obligated to generate all

Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
I'm not sure if this is a bug report or a feature request. Probably the second one. In LyX it's ok to define a Math Macro in a Master document and use it in a child one. It's also ok to use math macros that are defined in a child and use it in other child document. In both cases, I am able to

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/09/2011 10:22 AM, Diego Queiroz wrote: I'm not sure if this is a bug report or a feature request. Probably the second one. In LyX it's ok to define a Math Macro in a Master document and use it in a child one. It's also ok to use math macros that are defined in a child and use it in

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
If you ask to compile just the child, then you are asking to compile it as a standalone document, so it is no surprise that this does not work. Exactly. :-) If you want to compile just one chapter as part of a larger document, then you need to use the \includeonly support, accessible

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/09/2011 11:05 AM, Diego Queiroz wrote: If you want to compile just one chapter as part of a larger document, then you need to use the \includeonly support, accessible from DocumentSettings. I was not aware of this feature. Thanks for the hint. It's new in 2.0.0. But it is also

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
But what if you really want to compile it as a standalone document? People do this. Richard But if it was really a standalone document, I would have to unset master document property, right? Anyway, in my case, the problem is that my child document with the macros also define

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Julien Rioux
On 09/05/2011 10:22 AM, Diego Queiroz wrote: I'm not sure if this is a bug report or a feature request. Probably the second one. In LyX it's ok to define a Math Macro in a Master document and use it in a child one. It's also ok to use math macros that are defined in a child and use it in other

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
So, I do not experience your problem. However document settings and stuff that gets defined in the preamble need to be set in both master and child docs. -- Julien Actually, the answer is: yes, you do experience the very same problem. Otherwise you won't need to go after a workaround,

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Julien Rioux
On 09/05/2011 1:44 PM, Diego Queiroz wrote: So, I do not experience your problem. However document settings and stuff that gets defined in the preamble need to be set in both master and child docs. -- Julien Actually, the answer is: yes, you do experience the very same problem. Otherwise you

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Julien Rioux
On 09/05/2011 1:44 PM, Diego Queiroz wrote: So, I do not experience your problem. However document settings and stuff that gets defined in the preamble need to be set in both master and child docs. -- Julien Actually, the answer is: yes, you do experience the very same problem. Otherwise you

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
Which workaround? You said math macros don't work within child docs, I say they work for me. No workaround necessary. Maybe I misunderstood you. I was citing your workaround to include bibtex in the childs. I use a branch named child only, which is activated in child docs but deactivated in

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Julien Rioux
On 09/05/2011 2:23 PM, Diego Queiroz wrote: Which workaround? You said math macros don't work within child docs, I say they work for me. No workaround necessary. Maybe I misunderstood you. I was citing your workaround to include bibtex in the childs. I use a branch named child only, which

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/09/2011 02:38 PM, Julien Rioux wrote: Yes I am able to do what you describe in 1.6. In your example child doc, you did not set the master setting, did you? But anyway, I corrected it and still in 2.1.0svn the compilation of the child is broken: Undefined control sequence \anymacro A

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
Yes I am able to do what you describe in 1.6. In your example child doc, you did not set the master setting, did you? Indeed. I was in a hurry and I forgot it. ;/ --- Diego Queiroz

Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
I'm not sure if this is a bug report or a feature request. Probably the second one. In LyX it's ok to define a Math Macro in a Master document and use it in a child one. It's also ok to use math macros that are defined in a child and use it in other child document. In both cases, I am able to

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/09/2011 10:22 AM, Diego Queiroz wrote: I'm not sure if this is a bug report or a feature request. Probably the second one. In LyX it's ok to define a Math Macro in a Master document and use it in a child one. It's also ok to use math macros that are defined in a child and use it in

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
If you ask to compile just the child, then you are asking to compile it as a standalone document, so it is no surprise that this does not work. Exactly. :-) If you want to compile just one chapter as part of a larger document, then you need to use the \includeonly support, accessible

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/09/2011 11:05 AM, Diego Queiroz wrote: If you want to compile just one chapter as part of a larger document, then you need to use the \includeonly support, accessible from DocumentSettings. I was not aware of this feature. Thanks for the hint. It's new in 2.0.0. But it is also

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
But what if you really want to compile it as a standalone document? People do this. Richard But if it was really a standalone document, I would have to unset master document property, right? Anyway, in my case, the problem is that my child document with the macros also define

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Julien Rioux
On 09/05/2011 10:22 AM, Diego Queiroz wrote: I'm not sure if this is a bug report or a feature request. Probably the second one. In LyX it's ok to define a Math Macro in a Master document and use it in a child one. It's also ok to use math macros that are defined in a child and use it in other

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
So, I do not experience your problem. However document settings and stuff that gets defined in the preamble need to be set in both master and child docs. -- Julien Actually, the answer is: yes, you do experience the very same problem. Otherwise you won't need to go after a workaround,

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Julien Rioux
On 09/05/2011 1:44 PM, Diego Queiroz wrote: So, I do not experience your problem. However document settings and stuff that gets defined in the preamble need to be set in both master and child docs. -- Julien Actually, the answer is: yes, you do experience the very same problem. Otherwise you

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Julien Rioux
On 09/05/2011 1:44 PM, Diego Queiroz wrote: So, I do not experience your problem. However document settings and stuff that gets defined in the preamble need to be set in both master and child docs. -- Julien Actually, the answer is: yes, you do experience the very same problem. Otherwise you

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
Which workaround? You said math macros don't work within child docs, I say they work for me. No workaround necessary. Maybe I misunderstood you. I was citing your workaround to include bibtex in the childs. I use a branch named child only, which is activated in child docs but deactivated in

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Julien Rioux
On 09/05/2011 2:23 PM, Diego Queiroz wrote: Which workaround? You said math macros don't work within child docs, I say they work for me. No workaround necessary. Maybe I misunderstood you. I was citing your workaround to include bibtex in the childs. I use a branch named child only, which

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/09/2011 02:38 PM, Julien Rioux wrote: Yes I am able to do what you describe in 1.6. In your example child doc, you did not set the master setting, did you? But anyway, I corrected it and still in 2.1.0svn the compilation of the child is broken: Undefined control sequence \anymacro A

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
Yes I am able to do what you describe in 1.6. In your example child doc, you did not set the master setting, did you? Indeed. I was in a hurry and I forgot it. ;/ --- Diego Queiroz

Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
I'm not sure if this is a bug report or a feature request. Probably the second one. In LyX it's ok to define a Math Macro in a Master document and use it in a child one. It's also ok to use math macros that are defined in a child and use it in other child document. In both cases, I am able to

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/09/2011 10:22 AM, Diego Queiroz wrote: > I'm not sure if this is a bug report or a feature request. Probably the > second one. > > In LyX it's ok to define a Math Macro in a Master document and use it in a > child one. It's also ok to use math macros that are defined in a child and > use it

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
> > If you ask to compile just the child, then you are asking to compile it > as a standalone document, so it is no surprise that this does not work. > Exactly. :-) > If you want to compile just one chapter as part of a larger document, > then you need to use the \includeonly support,

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/09/2011 11:05 AM, Diego Queiroz wrote: > >> If you want to compile just one chapter as part of a larger document, >> then you need to use the \includeonly support, accessible from >> Document>Settings. > I was not aware of this feature. Thanks for the hint. > It's new in 2.0.0. > But it is

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
> > But what if you really want to compile it as a standalone document? > People do this. > > Richard > But if it was really a standalone document, I would have to unset master document property, right? Anyway, in my case, the problem is that my child document with the macros also define

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Julien Rioux
On 09/05/2011 10:22 AM, Diego Queiroz wrote: I'm not sure if this is a bug report or a feature request. Probably the second one. In LyX it's ok to define a Math Macro in a Master document and use it in a child one. It's also ok to use math macros that are defined in a child and use it in other

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
> > So, I do not experience your problem. However document settings and stuff > that gets defined in the preamble need to be set in both master and child > docs. > -- > Julien > Actually, the answer is: yes, you do experience the very same problem. Otherwise you won't need to go after a

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Julien Rioux
On 09/05/2011 1:44 PM, Diego Queiroz wrote: So, I do not experience your problem. However document settings and stuff that gets defined in the preamble need to be set in both master and child docs. -- Julien Actually, the answer is: yes, you do experience the very same problem. Otherwise you

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Julien Rioux
On 09/05/2011 1:44 PM, Diego Queiroz wrote: So, I do not experience your problem. However document settings and stuff that gets defined in the preamble need to be set in both master and child docs. -- Julien Actually, the answer is: yes, you do experience the very same problem. Otherwise you

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
> > Which workaround? You said math macros don't work within child docs, I say > they work for me. No workaround necessary. > Maybe I misunderstood you. I was citing your workaround to include bibtex in the childs. >> "I use a branch named "child only", which is activated in child docs but

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Julien Rioux
On 09/05/2011 2:23 PM, Diego Queiroz wrote: Which workaround? You said math macros don't work within child docs, I say they work for me. No workaround necessary. Maybe I misunderstood you. I was citing your workaround to include bibtex in the childs. "I use a branch named "child only",

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/09/2011 02:38 PM, Julien Rioux wrote: > > Yes I am able to do what you describe in 1.6. In your example child > doc, you did not set the master setting, did you? But anyway, I > corrected it and still in 2.1.0svn the compilation of the child is > broken: > > Undefined control sequence

Re: Math macros inside child documents

2011-05-09 Thread Diego Queiroz
> > Yes I am able to do what you describe in 1.6. In your example child doc, > you did not set the master setting, did you? > Indeed. I was in a hurry and I forgot it. ;/ --- Diego Queiroz