Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Am Thursday 26 February 2009 16:56:57 schrieb Wilfried: Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.de wrote: On 2009-02-07, Christian Ridderström wrote: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-27, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Thursday 26 February 2009 16:56:57 schrieb Wilfried: Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.de wrote: But how about trying to get LyX into TeXLive? There is already a bootable, self-sustained Linux DVD available with LyX integrated:

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Am Thursday 26 February 2009 16:56:57 schrieb Wilfried: Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.de wrote: On 2009-02-07, Christian Ridderström wrote: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-27, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Thursday 26 February 2009 16:56:57 schrieb Wilfried: Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.de wrote: But how about trying to get LyX into TeXLive? There is already a bootable, self-sustained Linux DVD available with LyX integrated:

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Am Thursday 26 February 2009 16:56:57 schrieb Wilfried: > Guenter Milde wrote: > > On 2009-02-07, Christian Ridderström wrote: > > > On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > > >> On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: > > >> > > >> perhaps a live CD with a

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-27, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > Am Thursday 26 February 2009 16:56:57 schrieb Wilfried: >> Guenter Milde wrote: >>> But how about trying to get LyX into TeXLive? >> There is already a bootable, self-sustained Linux DVD available with LyX >> integrated: >>

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.de wrote: On 2009-02-07, Christian Ridderström wrote: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.de wrote: On 2009-02-07, Christian Ridderström wrote: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Guenter Milde wrote: > On 2009-02-07, Christian Ridderström wrote: > > On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > >> On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: > > >> perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate > >> its merrit to those

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-07, Christian Ridderström wrote: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-07, Christian Ridderström wrote: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-07, Christian Ridderström wrote: > On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: >> On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: >> perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate >> its merrit to those who care > Actually, a complete installation of LyX,

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

A B wrote: What is needed is the ability to let LyX users interact with other people. With good converters that enable LyX users to take a X-file, open, edit, and send back a X-file, (where X = word or html or rtf or openoffice or xml or even MP3 (with lillypond?) ) you can work with LyX in

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

A B wrote: What is needed is the ability to let LyX users interact with other people. With good converters that enable LyX users to take a X-file, open, edit, and send back a X-file, (where X = word or html or rtf or openoffice or xml or even MP3 (with lillypond?) ) you can work with LyX in

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

A B wrote: What is needed is the ability to let LyX users interact with other people. With good converters that enable LyX users to take a X-file, open, edit, and send back a X-file, (where X = word or html or rtf or openoffice or xml or even MP3 (with lillypond?) ) you can work with LyX in

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Am Sunday 08 February 2009 10:35:04 schrieb Wolfgang Keller: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Am Sunday 08 February 2009 10:35:04 schrieb Wolfgang Keller: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Am Sunday 08 February 2009 10:35:04 schrieb Wolfgang Keller: > > > perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to > > > demonstrate its merrit to those who care > > > > Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software > > on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run without installing it. I'm not sure it's feasible though. I'm using

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Guenter Milde mi...@... writes: Document format conversion is lossy by a natural law. ...the Wise know this. Anyway, @LyxLyght's oppositors: I not-LyX-nor-even-LaTeX (i.e. Word) collaborators are of 3 kind: A. Those who will never use anything different than Word (or OOo), say 50% B. Those

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, typh...@aanet.com.au wrote: I wasn't clear enough... I was actually thinking of Windows users, and that they'd be able to run LyX from the CD, but still inside Windows and not by booting into eg Knoppix. Using a virtual machine might be an idea, but then you have the

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Keller wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run without installing it. I'm

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run without installing it. I'm not sure it's feasible though. I'm using

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Guenter Milde mi...@... writes: Document format conversion is lossy by a natural law. ...the Wise know this. Anyway, @LyxLyght's oppositors: I not-LyX-nor-even-LaTeX (i.e. Word) collaborators are of 3 kind: A. Those who will never use anything different than Word (or OOo), say 50% B. Those

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, typh...@aanet.com.au wrote: I wasn't clear enough... I was actually thinking of Windows users, and that they'd be able to run LyX from the CD, but still inside Windows and not by booting into eg Knoppix. Using a virtual machine might be an idea, but then you have the

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Keller wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run without installing it. I'm

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

> > perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to > > demonstrate its merrit to those who care > > Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software > on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run without > installing it. I'm not sure it's feasible though.

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Guenter Milde writes: > Document format conversion is lossy "by a natural law". ...the Wise know this. Anyway, @LyxLyght's "oppositors": I not-LyX-nor-even-LaTeX (i.e. Word) collaborators are of 3 kind: A. Those who will never use anything different than Word (or OOo), say >50%

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, typh...@aanet.com.au wrote: I wasn't clear enough... I was actually thinking of Windows users, and that they'd be able to run LyX from the CD, but still inside Windows and not by booting into eg Knoppix. Using a virtual machine might be an idea, but then you have the

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Keller wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run without installing it. I'm

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Wolfgang I'd say: create converters that are shipped with LyX instead! If I may generalize a little The word users are of two kinds: the

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

A few threads back, someone mentioned a light LyX version. (A light version that you wouldn't need the latex. You could edit the text, and and see the equations) I couldn't help thinking about adobe's PDF reader vs. PDF convert. 10 years ago, most people used PDF readers, and only academics

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea,

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Christian Ridderström wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run without installing it. I'm not sure it's

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Wolfgang I'd say: create converters that are shipped with LyX instead! If I may generalize a little The word users are of two kinds: the

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

A few threads back, someone mentioned a light LyX version. (A light version that you wouldn't need the latex. You could edit the text, and and see the equations) I couldn't help thinking about adobe's PDF reader vs. PDF convert. 10 years ago, most people used PDF readers, and only academics

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea,

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Christian Ridderström wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run without installing it. I'm not sure it's

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Wolfgang > > I'd say: create converters that are shipped with LyX instead! > > If I may generalize a little > The word users are of two kinds:

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

A few threads back, someone mentioned a "light LyX" version. (A light version that you wouldn't need the latex. You could edit the text, and and see the equations) I couldn't help thinking about adobe's "PDF reader" vs. "PDF convert". 10 years ago, most people used PDF readers, and only

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: On Friday 06 February 2009 09:32:12 A B wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea,

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Christian Ridderström wrote: >> perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its >> merrit to those who care > > Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a > CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run without installing it. > I'm not

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on a CD could be a good idea, assuming it can be run

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

> On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Pavel Sanda wrote: > >> Christian Ridderström wrote: perhaps a live CD with a whatever-Lyx would be helpful to demonstrate its merrit to those who care >>> >>> Actually, a complete installation of LyX, LaTeX and various software on >>> a >>> CD could be a good

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

I might have missed something here (I'm sorry in that case) but are you suggesting a LyX-light version for people that does not want to use anything but word Paradoxically yes. I'd say: create converters that are shipped with LyX instead! If I may generalize a little The word users are

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-05, rgheck wrote: I looked a bit closer and you are correct. Python was installed I'd guess that a LyXLite probably wouldn't need python. We're never exporting; we're never compiling. We don't care what programs and packages are available or not. We're assuming that none are.

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-06, A B wrote: I might have missed something here (I'm sorry in that case) Yes, reading the thread from the beginning will help to understand the complex issue and the various solutions proposed so far... but are you suggesting a LyX-light version for people that does not want to

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

AB I might have missed something here (I'm sorry in that case) but are you suggesting a LyX-light version for people that does not want to use anything but word Paradoxically yes. I'd say: create converters that are shipped with LyX instead! If I may generalize a little The

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-05, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Guenter Milde wrote: This was about citation support. But I see it works without LaTeX too (but with limited funtionality: giving the bibtex-key instead):: ... for details see [milde.ea.ieee-sensors:08] [LaTeX-Befehl: bibtex] FYI, I think

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

David Mertens schreef: It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has, I couldn't find it. Yes, see: http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/BundleSuggestions

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Hi, It would be great if LightLyx(or whatever name) would be a portable, one file solultion and the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. So you can just give the document (zip-file) and the exe (for windows) file of PortanbleLightlyx to someone and he/she could review and

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Guenter Milde wrote: On 2009-02-05, rgheck wrote: I looked a bit closer and you are correct. Python was installed I'd guess that a LyXLite probably wouldn't need python. We're never exporting; we're never compiling. We don't care what programs and packages are available or

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has, I couldn't find it. We would probably want a portable LyX format (.plyx) that would be a tarrball or zip of the

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Guenter Milde wrote: FYI, I think Richard has further improved the bibtex parsing lately. I know, this is why I can browse my bibtex database easily from within lyx. Would it be feasable to use this new ability in LyX's text export? I don't see why not. Basically, we have a data

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

David Mertens wrote: It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has, I couldn't find it. A lot, but mostly on devel. There is, in fact, a script that

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Friday 06 February 2009 11:37:50 am Richard Heck wrote: Yes, of course, that's correct. There's layout2layout, as well. So python is definitely required. What does layout2layout do? SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Friday 06 February 2009 11:46:21 am Richard Heck wrote: David Mertens wrote: It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has, I couldn't find it. A lot,

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Steve Litt wrote: On Friday 06 February 2009 11:46:21 am Richard Heck wrote: David Mertens wrote: It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has,

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

I might have missed something here (I'm sorry in that case) but are you suggesting a LyX-light version for people that does not want to use anything but word Paradoxically yes. I'd say: create converters that are shipped with LyX instead! If I may generalize a little The word users are

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-05, rgheck wrote: I looked a bit closer and you are correct. Python was installed I'd guess that a LyXLite probably wouldn't need python. We're never exporting; we're never compiling. We don't care what programs and packages are available or not. We're assuming that none are.

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-06, A B wrote: I might have missed something here (I'm sorry in that case) Yes, reading the thread from the beginning will help to understand the complex issue and the various solutions proposed so far... but are you suggesting a LyX-light version for people that does not want to

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

AB I might have missed something here (I'm sorry in that case) but are you suggesting a LyX-light version for people that does not want to use anything but word Paradoxically yes. I'd say: create converters that are shipped with LyX instead! If I may generalize a little The

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-05, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Guenter Milde wrote: This was about citation support. But I see it works without LaTeX too (but with limited funtionality: giving the bibtex-key instead):: ... for details see [milde.ea.ieee-sensors:08] [LaTeX-Befehl: bibtex] FYI, I think

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

David Mertens schreef: It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has, I couldn't find it. Yes, see: http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/BundleSuggestions

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Hi, It would be great if LightLyx(or whatever name) would be a portable, one file solultion and the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. So you can just give the document (zip-file) and the exe (for windows) file of PortanbleLightlyx to someone and he/she could review and

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Guenter Milde wrote: On 2009-02-05, rgheck wrote: I looked a bit closer and you are correct. Python was installed I'd guess that a LyXLite probably wouldn't need python. We're never exporting; we're never compiling. We don't care what programs and packages are available or

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has, I couldn't find it. We would probably want a portable LyX format (.plyx) that would be a tarrball or zip of the

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Guenter Milde wrote: FYI, I think Richard has further improved the bibtex parsing lately. I know, this is why I can browse my bibtex database easily from within lyx. Would it be feasable to use this new ability in LyX's text export? I don't see why not. Basically, we have a data

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

David Mertens wrote: It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has, I couldn't find it. A lot, but mostly on devel. There is, in fact, a script that

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Friday 06 February 2009 11:37:50 am Richard Heck wrote: Yes, of course, that's correct. There's layout2layout, as well. So python is definitely required. What does layout2layout do? SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Friday 06 February 2009 11:46:21 am Richard Heck wrote: David Mertens wrote: It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has, I couldn't find it. A lot,

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Steve Litt wrote: On Friday 06 February 2009 11:46:21 am Richard Heck wrote: David Mertens wrote: It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has,

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

>> I might have missed something here (I'm sorry in that case) but are >> you suggesting a LyX-light version for people that does not want to >> use anything but word > > Paradoxically yes. I'd say: create converters that are shipped with LyX instead! If I may generalize a little The word

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-05, rgheck wrote: >> I looked a bit closer and you are correct. Python was installed > I'd guess that a LyXLite probably wouldn't need python. We're never > exporting; we're never compiling. We don't care what programs and > packages are available or not. We're assuming that none

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-06, A B wrote: >>> I might have missed something here (I'm sorry in that case) Yes, reading the thread from the beginning will help to understand the complex issue and the various solutions proposed so far... >>> but are you suggesting a LyX-light version for people that does not >>>

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

AB I might have missed something here (I'm sorry in that case) but are you suggesting a LyX-light version for people that does not want to use anything but word Paradoxically yes. I'd say: create converters that are shipped with LyX instead! If I may generalize a little The

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-05, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Guenter Milde wrote: >> This was about citation support. But I see it works without LaTeX too (but >> with limited funtionality: giving the bibtex-key instead):: >> ... >> for details see [milde.ea.ieee-sensors:08] >> [LaTeX-Befehl: bibtex] >

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

David Mertens schreef: It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has, I couldn't find it. Yes, see: http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/BundleSuggestions

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Hi, It would be great if LightLyx(or whatever name) would be a portable, one file solultion and the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. So you can just give the document (zip-file) and the exe (for windows) file of PortanbleLightlyx to someone and he/she could review and

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Guenter Milde wrote: On 2009-02-05, rgheck wrote: I looked a bit closer and you are correct. Python was installed I'd guess that a LyXLite probably wouldn't need python. We're never exporting; we're never compiling. We don't care what programs and packages are available or

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

> > It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images > in a .zip file. > Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has, I couldn't find it. We would probably want a portable LyX format (.plyx) that would be a tarrball or zip of

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Guenter Milde wrote: FYI, I think Richard has further improved the bibtex parsing lately. I know, this is why I can browse my bibtex database easily from within lyx. Would it be feasable to use this new ability in LyX's text export? I don't see why not. Basically, we have a data

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

David Mertens wrote: It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has, I couldn't find it. A lot, but mostly on devel. There is, in fact, a script that

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Friday 06 February 2009 11:37:50 am Richard Heck wrote: > Yes, of course, that's correct. There's layout2layout, as well. So > python is definitely required. What does layout2layout do? SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Friday 06 February 2009 11:46:21 am Richard Heck wrote: > David Mertens wrote: > >> It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all > >> images in a .zip file. > > > > Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists > > before? If it has, I couldn't find

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Steve Litt wrote: On Friday 06 February 2009 11:46:21 am Richard Heck wrote: David Mertens wrote: It would be great if ... the .lxy document would be bundled with all images in a .zip file. Great idea, but not trivial. Has this been discussed on the lists before? If it has,

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Pavel Sanda wrote: Piero Faustini wrote: want. No converters, no LaTeX. no converters - no pictures Not quite true. Most (if not all) of the image formats typically used by Windows user are natively supported by LyX. Abdel.

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-04, David Mertens wrote: 3. (optional, and not so inmediate) A light-weight full-view (and idiot-proof as well) LyX version, (I have the name: LyteX or LyghtX!) Why not Ly-X (for lyx without TeX)? but this is a minor point. is able to edit text (and structure) of conventional LyX

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Guenter Milde wrote: idiot-proof as well) LyX version, (I have the name: LyteX or LyghtX!) Why not Ly-X (for lyx without TeX)? but this is a minor point. Maybe it's _too_ close to LyX? Thus easily mistaken. Also, it may be that some settings are blocked if the

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Ken wrote: harder to export them to SWP even though they are both LaTeX editors. At the university, SWP is available as a standard install on machines but not LyX. Have you tried getting the university to offer LyX as part of the standard install as well? Being free means they don't need a

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: Isn't this going to be a big problem? LyX objects rather strongly when it thinks you don't have the corresponding LaTeX class installed. Of course, this behaviour could be changed. Isn't this decision made based on what the configure script

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-05, Rainer M Krug wrote: the options of editing via PDFs and conversion from and to rtf, should be explored further as they really would solve the problem. The problem here is, that PDF and rtf do not provide semantic markup so most of the document structure and other vital

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Helge, Thanks for your message. Yes, I wrote to the IT folks a few weeks ago with the suggestion and will try to follow it up in a few weeks time. While there is no licensing costs they may have to worry about the installation and support cost/effort. But again, I think that LyX is far and

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

On 2009-02-04, Pavel Sanda wrote: Piero Faustini wrote: want. No converters, no LaTeX. no converters - no pictures Well, pictures in formats supported directly by QT will still be visible (which are a lot). Günter

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Christian Ridderström wrote: On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Guenter Milde wrote: idiot-proof as well) LyX version, (I have the name: LyteX or LyghtX!) Why not Ly-X (for lyx without TeX)? but this is a minor point. Maybe it's _too_ close to LyX? Thus easily mistaken. lyxlight? minilyx? microlyx?

Re: Strategies for Writing Co-operation with Non-LyX Users?

Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Pavel Sanda wrote: Piero Faustini wrote: want. No converters, no LaTeX. no converters - no pictures Not quite true. Most (if not all) of the image formats typically used by Windows user are natively supported by LyX. interesting; i would expect postscript to be

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