Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Michael Logies
At 07:02 01.10.2003 +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: I attached the file. It is working with %\usepackage{cite} and not working with \usepackage{cite} do not use spaces inside the keywords! Herbert, thanks. When I replace spaces by _ in my example file, {cite} is working. I consider this a real bug

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 09:46:58AM +0200, Michael Logies wrote: At 07:02 01.10.2003 +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: I attached the file. It is working with %\usepackage{cite} and not working with \usepackage{cite} do not use spaces inside the keywords! Herbert, thanks. When I replace

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Herbert Voß
Andre Poenitz schrieb: I consider this a real bug within Lyx. It is really hard to 'fix' as TeX is far too complex to come up with a rule 'char x is forbidden in place y'. no, not for keywords and labels, where LyX controls the user input. Herbert

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 04:19:28PM +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: Andre Poenitz schrieb: I consider this a real bug within Lyx. It is really hard to 'fix' as TeX is far too complex to come up with a rule 'char x is forbidden in place y'. no, not for keywords and labels, where LyX controls

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Herbert Voß
Andre Poenitz schrieb: On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 04:19:28PM +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: Andre Poenitz schrieb: I consider this a real bug within Lyx. It is really hard to 'fix' as TeX is far too complex to come up with a rule 'char x is forbidden in place y'. no, not for keywords and labels,

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Michael Logies
At 16:52 01.10.2003 +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: we are talking about (La)TeX and not some packages and not ERT. In _LaTeX_ it is not a good idea to have spaces and/or control characters in filesnames/labels/keywords. Herbert, it is even worse. It seems as if {natbib} doesn`t accept a german Umlaut

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Michael Logies
At 02:03 29.09.2003 +0200, Michael Logies wrote: Is there a way to sort these hints to the literature automatically ascending (Lyx 1.3.2 for Qt)? After eliminating spaces and german umlaute from the keywords of the bibliographic entries, sorting is now working well with {cite} or {natbib},

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Herbert Voß
Michael Logies schrieb: At 16:52 01.10.2003 +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: we are talking about (La)TeX and not some packages and not ERT. In _LaTeX_ it is not a good idea to have spaces and/or control characters in filesnames/labels/keywords. Herbert, it is even worse. It seems as if {natbib}

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Michael Logies
At 07:02 01.10.2003 +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: I attached the file. It is working with %\usepackage{cite} and not working with \usepackage{cite} do not use spaces inside the keywords! Herbert, thanks. When I replace spaces by _ in my example file, {cite} is working. I consider this a real bug

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 09:46:58AM +0200, Michael Logies wrote: At 07:02 01.10.2003 +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: I attached the file. It is working with %\usepackage{cite} and not working with \usepackage{cite} do not use spaces inside the keywords! Herbert, thanks. When I replace

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Herbert Voß
Andre Poenitz schrieb: I consider this a real bug within Lyx. It is really hard to 'fix' as TeX is far too complex to come up with a rule 'char x is forbidden in place y'. no, not for keywords and labels, where LyX controls the user input. Herbert

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 04:19:28PM +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: Andre Poenitz schrieb: I consider this a real bug within Lyx. It is really hard to 'fix' as TeX is far too complex to come up with a rule 'char x is forbidden in place y'. no, not for keywords and labels, where LyX controls

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Herbert Voß
Andre Poenitz schrieb: On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 04:19:28PM +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: Andre Poenitz schrieb: I consider this a real bug within Lyx. It is really hard to 'fix' as TeX is far too complex to come up with a rule 'char x is forbidden in place y'. no, not for keywords and labels,

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Michael Logies
At 16:52 01.10.2003 +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: we are talking about (La)TeX and not some packages and not ERT. In _LaTeX_ it is not a good idea to have spaces and/or control characters in filesnames/labels/keywords. Herbert, it is even worse. It seems as if {natbib} doesn`t accept a german Umlaut

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Michael Logies
At 02:03 29.09.2003 +0200, Michael Logies wrote: Is there a way to sort these hints to the literature automatically ascending (Lyx 1.3.2 for Qt)? After eliminating spaces and german umlaute from the keywords of the bibliographic entries, sorting is now working well with {cite} or {natbib},

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Herbert Voß
Michael Logies schrieb: At 16:52 01.10.2003 +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: we are talking about (La)TeX and not some packages and not ERT. In _LaTeX_ it is not a good idea to have spaces and/or control characters in filesnames/labels/keywords. Herbert, it is even worse. It seems as if {natbib}

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Michael Logies
At 07:02 01.10.2003 +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: I attached the file. It is working with %\usepackage{cite} and not working with \usepackage{cite} do not use spaces inside the keywords! Herbert, thanks. When I replace spaces by "_" in my example file, {cite} is working. I consider this a real bug

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 09:46:58AM +0200, Michael Logies wrote: > At 07:02 01.10.2003 +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: > > >>I attached the file. It is working with > >>%\usepackage{cite} > >>and not working with > >>\usepackage{cite} > > > >do not use spaces inside the keywords! > > Herbert, > >

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Herbert Voß
Andre Poenitz schrieb: I consider this a real bug within Lyx. It is really hard to 'fix' as TeX is far too complex to come up with a rule 'char x is forbidden in place y'. no, not for keywords and labels, where LyX controls the user input. Herbert

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 04:19:28PM +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: > Andre Poenitz schrieb: > > >>I consider this a real bug within Lyx. > > > > > >It is really hard to 'fix' as TeX is far too complex to come up with a > >rule 'char x is forbidden in place y'. > > no, not for keywords and labels,

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Herbert Voß
Andre Poenitz schrieb: On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 04:19:28PM +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: Andre Poenitz schrieb: I consider this a real bug within Lyx. It is really hard to 'fix' as TeX is far too complex to come up with a rule 'char x is forbidden in place y'. no, not for keywords and labels,

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Michael Logies
At 16:52 01.10.2003 +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: we are talking about (La)TeX and not some packages and not ERT. In _LaTeX_ it is not a good idea to have spaces and/or control characters in filesnames/labels/keywords. Herbert, it is even worse. It seems as if {natbib} doesn`t accept a german Umlaut

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Michael Logies
At 02:03 29.09.2003 +0200, Michael Logies wrote: Is there a way to sort these hints to the literature automatically ascending (Lyx 1.3.2 for Qt)? After eliminating spaces and german umlaute from the keywords of the bibliographic entries, sorting is now working well with {cite} or {natbib},

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-10-01 Thread Herbert Voß
Michael Logies schrieb: At 16:52 01.10.2003 +0200, Herbert Voß wrote: we are talking about (La)TeX and not some packages and not ERT. In _LaTeX_ it is not a good idea to have spaces and/or control characters in filesnames/labels/keywords. Herbert, it is even worse. It seems as if {natbib}

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Michael Logies wrote: \begin{thebibliography}{100} \bibitem{Aalen dependent survival}Aalen O. O., Bjertness E., Soonju T.: Any strong reason why you don't use BibTeX? Jürgen.

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 08:49 30.09.2003 +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Michael Logies wrote: \begin{thebibliography}{100} \bibitem{Aalen dependent survival}Aalen O. O., Bjertness E., Soonju T.: Any strong reason why you don't use BibTeX? Jürgen, I did not want to struggle with another program. I am using Lyx

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Angus Leeming
Michael Logies wrote: I cut and paste most of my references from different databases into Lyx, and numbering of my references is changing automatically within Lyx without invoking another program. That`s already quite comfortable. I don`t think that I will have much more than 150 references

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 12:14 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: The point is that separating your references out into a database allows you to separate data from appearance. You can view the same data in different ways by choosing the bibtex style file to format it with. Angus, I only want to write a thesis,

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:33:33PM +0200, Michael Logies wrote: At 12:14 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: The point is that separating your references out into a database allows you to separate data from appearance. You can view the same data in different ways by choosing the bibtex

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 16:51 30.09.2003 +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote: What happens when you want to delete a citation in the text ? You need to manually search the text (perhaps loading the lyx file into an external text editor) and check if there is another citation to the same document. Hello Dekel, I hoped that the

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 12:50 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: You'll get a whole heap of output to screen about things like missing references. This information is also posted in your_file.log. Have a quick look at it. Subsequent runs of 'latex.exe your_file.tex' should resolve the warnings about missing

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 20:46 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: Why not send a minimal LyX file demonstrating the problem. Angus, I attached the file. It is working with %\usepackage{cite} and not working with \usepackage{cite} Thanks M.#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 23:26 30.09.2003 +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote: Perhaps the problem is that you use both hyperref and cite, which both redifine the latex cite command. Dekel, no, the problems persists even without hyperref, see my example file. Regards M. -- http://www.logies.de/ (u. a. _die_ Mailingliste für

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Herbert Voß
Michael Logies schrieb: At 20:46 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: Why not send a minimal LyX file demonstrating the problem. Angus, I attached the file. It is working with %\usepackage{cite} and not working with \usepackage{cite} do not use spaces inside the keywords! Herbert

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Michael Logies wrote: \begin{thebibliography}{100} \bibitem{Aalen dependent survival}Aalen O. O., Bjertness E., Soonju T.: Any strong reason why you don't use BibTeX? Jürgen.

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 08:49 30.09.2003 +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Michael Logies wrote: \begin{thebibliography}{100} \bibitem{Aalen dependent survival}Aalen O. O., Bjertness E., Soonju T.: Any strong reason why you don't use BibTeX? Jürgen, I did not want to struggle with another program. I am using Lyx

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Angus Leeming
Michael Logies wrote: I cut and paste most of my references from different databases into Lyx, and numbering of my references is changing automatically within Lyx without invoking another program. That`s already quite comfortable. I don`t think that I will have much more than 150 references

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 12:14 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: The point is that separating your references out into a database allows you to separate data from appearance. You can view the same data in different ways by choosing the bibtex style file to format it with. Angus, I only want to write a thesis,

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:33:33PM +0200, Michael Logies wrote: At 12:14 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: The point is that separating your references out into a database allows you to separate data from appearance. You can view the same data in different ways by choosing the bibtex

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 16:51 30.09.2003 +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote: What happens when you want to delete a citation in the text ? You need to manually search the text (perhaps loading the lyx file into an external text editor) and check if there is another citation to the same document. Hello Dekel, I hoped that the

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 12:50 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: You'll get a whole heap of output to screen about things like missing references. This information is also posted in your_file.log. Have a quick look at it. Subsequent runs of 'latex.exe your_file.tex' should resolve the warnings about missing

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 20:46 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: Why not send a minimal LyX file demonstrating the problem. Angus, I attached the file. It is working with %\usepackage{cite} and not working with \usepackage{cite} Thanks M.#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 23:26 30.09.2003 +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote: Perhaps the problem is that you use both hyperref and cite, which both redifine the latex cite command. Dekel, no, the problems persists even without hyperref, see my example file. Regards M. -- http://www.logies.de/ (u. a. _die_ Mailingliste für

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Herbert Voß
Michael Logies schrieb: At 20:46 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: Why not send a minimal LyX file demonstrating the problem. Angus, I attached the file. It is working with %\usepackage{cite} and not working with \usepackage{cite} do not use spaces inside the keywords! Herbert

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Michael Logies wrote: > \begin{thebibliography}{100} > \bibitem{Aalen dependent survival}Aalen O. O., Bjertness E., Soonju T.: Any strong reason why you don't use BibTeX? Jürgen.

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 08:49 30.09.2003 +0200, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Michael Logies wrote: > \begin{thebibliography}{100} > \bibitem{Aalen dependent survival}Aalen O. O., Bjertness E., Soonju T.: Any strong reason why you don't use BibTeX? Jürgen, I did not want to struggle with another program. I am using

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Angus Leeming
Michael Logies wrote: > I "cut and paste" most of my references from different databases into > Lyx, and numbering of my references is changing automatically within Lyx > without invoking another program. That`s already quite comfortable. I > don`t think that I will have much more than 150

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 12:14 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: The point is that separating your references out into a database allows you to separate data from appearance. You can view the same data in different ways by choosing the bibtex style file to format it with. Angus, I only want to write a thesis,

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 01:33:33PM +0200, Michael Logies wrote: > At 12:14 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: > > >The point is that separating your references out into a database allows you > >to separate data from appearance. You can view the same data in different > >ways by choosing the

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 16:51 30.09.2003 +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote: What happens when you want to delete a citation in the text ? You need to manually search the text (perhaps loading the lyx file into an external text editor) and check if there is another citation to the same document. Hello Dekel, I hoped that the

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 12:50 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: You'll get a whole heap of output to screen about things like missing references. This information is also posted in your_file.log. Have a quick look at it. Subsequent runs of 'latex.exe your_file.tex' should resolve the warnings about missing

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 20:46 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: Why not send a minimal LyX file demonstrating the problem. Angus, I attached the file. It is working with %\usepackage{cite} and not working with \usepackage{cite} Thanks M.#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Michael Logies
At 23:26 30.09.2003 +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote: Perhaps the problem is that you use both hyperref and cite, which both redifine the latex cite command. Dekel, no, the problems persists even without hyperref, see my example file. Regards M. -- http://www.logies.de/ (u. a. _die_ Mailingliste für

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-30 Thread Herbert Voß
Michael Logies schrieb: At 20:46 30.09.2003 +, Angus Leeming wrote: Why not send a minimal LyX file demonstrating the problem. Angus, I attached the file. It is working with %\usepackage{cite} and not working with \usepackage{cite} do not use spaces inside the keywords! Herbert

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-29 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Michael Logies wrote: Is there a way to sort these hints to the literature automatically ascending (Lyx 1.3.2 for Qt)? \usepackage{cite} (in preamble). You can get the package here: ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/cite/ also cf:

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-29 Thread Michael Logies
At 09:20 29.09.2003 +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: Reviews: [45, 47, 57, 58, 64, 65, 66, 74, 81, 82, 89, 93, 100, 101, 103, 104, 114, 115, 116, 117, 122, 5, 51] Is there a way to sort these hints to the literature automatically ascending (Lyx 1.3.2 for Qt)? \usepackage{cite} if these numbers

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-29 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Michael Logies wrote: Is there a way to sort these hints to the literature automatically ascending (Lyx 1.3.2 for Qt)? \usepackage{cite} (in preamble). You can get the package here: ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/cite/ also cf:

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-29 Thread Michael Logies
At 09:20 29.09.2003 +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: Reviews: [45, 47, 57, 58, 64, 65, 66, 74, 81, 82, 89, 93, 100, 101, 103, 104, 114, 115, 116, 117, 122, 5, 51] Is there a way to sort these hints to the literature automatically ascending (Lyx 1.3.2 for Qt)? \usepackage{cite} if these numbers

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-29 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Michael Logies wrote: > Is there a way to sort these hints to the literature automatically > ascending (Lyx 1.3.2 for Qt)? \usepackage{cite} (in preamble). You can get the package here: ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/cite/ also cf:

Re: Sorting of literature automatically?

2003-09-29 Thread Michael Logies
At 09:20 29.09.2003 +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: > Reviews: [45, 47, 57, 58, 64, 65, 66, 74, 81, 82, 89, 93, 100, 101, 103, > 104, 114, 115, > 116, 117, 122, 5, 51] > > Is there a way to sort these hints to the literature automatically > ascending (Lyx 1.3.2 for Qt)? \usepackage{cite} if these