Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

On 6 March 2014 23:51, Denis Navas Vega denis.na...@gmail.com wrote:


 That's a problem that I have suffered in the past with different programs,
 after windows actualizations.  This is a windows problem.


No idea what you meant by windows actualizations, but indeed I have had
some problems as well with some setups.  I once had problem installing
VMware Workstation in an updated version in my Windows XP.  But the problem
was resolved in the next updated version.  But the key word here is *in the
past*!!

That is to say I totally disagree with you!  Come on, we are already in
2014!  Windows 7 has been released more than 4 years ago.  Don't they have
enough time to fix problem in their setup during all this time?  Saying
that it's windows problem is purely a lame excuse.  If they are unable to
adapt, that simply mean they are not good enough.  QED.  Thinking about
evolution, if a species is unable to adapt to its environment, it's damned
to disappear soon.  I would bet this natural selection law also applies
here.

And don't give me the lame excuse that because it's free, it has to have
problem.  There are myriads of free programs out there in the Internet,
most of them don't have problem.  Why did they manage to do so?

Skillful people fix things immediately.  Unskillful people give excuse
immediately and blame the wrongs on others.

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

On 7 March 2014 05:10, aparsloe apars...@clear.net.nz wrote:


 I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX
 first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 64-bit
 version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer without
 problems,


OK, with all fairness, I have just tried the 64bit installer many times and
at one time it passed!  So your *good* experience is a fluke, you lucky guy
:)

In another instance, ie in another Win7 64bit, I tried to define its
compatibility to Vista and it worked.  That means the setup has not been
modified since prehistory (I mean 2006, more than 8 years ago)??


 but discovered that biber was missing from that distro -- evidently the
 64-bit distro is still experimental -- so I went back to the 32-bit
 MiKTeX 2.9 (the Basic distribution of 160 MB or so, and then added the
 packages detailed under LaTeX Configuration in LyX's Help menu).  It too
 installed without problems.

 As for MiKTeX being a  big piece of $h!t, I haven't had problems with it
 (and it certainly doesn't give me the kind of conflict between package
 managers mentioned in a recent thread on this list that users of TeXLive on
 Ubuntu systems face).

 Andrew


All this would lead to the only valid conclusion: MiKTeX and its setup are
too *unstable*.  I would certainly avoid using it if there's alternative
LaTeX distribution.

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

On 6 March 2014 23:51, Denis Navas Vega denis.na...@gmail.com wrote:


 That's a problem that I have suffered in the past with different programs,
 after windows actualizations.  This is a windows problem.



Oh, and one more thing.  Saying that is *a windows problem* is not a
constructive comment because it does not help users who want to install LyX
on their O/S, does it?  I mean, what did you expect people to do when you
said it's windows problem?  Does that give any concrete solution or
workaround?

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

On 7 March 2014 05:10, aparsloe apars...@clear.net.nz wrote:


  I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX
 first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 64-bit
 version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer without
 problems, [...deleted]


Oh, for information: I have just tried basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe in XP
Pro 64-bit.  Guess what.  It crashed on first trial.  LOL

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[stefano franchi]

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:12 AM, STF lapsap7+...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 7 March 2014 05:10, aparsloe apars...@clear.net.nz wrote:


 I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX
 first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 64-bit
 version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer without
 problems, [...deleted]


 Oh, for information: I have just tried basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe in XP
 Pro 64-bit.  Guess what.  It crashed on first trial.  LOL



I have never used TeX on Windows, but have you tried the TeXLive
disribution (the standard on Linux and Mac, in its MacTeX version)? It
is available for Windows too (just look on Ctan).
Perhaps it'll solve some of your problems.



Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[Stephan Witt]

Am 07.03.2014 um 16:12 schrieb STF lapsap7+...@gmail.com:

 On 7 March 2014 05:10, aparsloe apars...@clear.net.nz wrote:
 
 I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX 
 first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 64-bit 
 version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer without 
 problems, [...deleted]
 
 Oh, for information: I have just tried basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe in XP 
 Pro 64-bit.  Guess what.  It crashed on first trial.  LOL

Oh, for information: this is the LyX users list. And not the MiKTeX users list…

Regards,
Stephan

sidecap

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

I try to use the sidecap package to get the legend of my figure at the side.
I do get the desired position of the caption if I use the pdf output of the 
embedded objects lyx file

However, including the (what I think important) document preferences:

###
\usepackage{sidecap}

% Definitionen um Legenden neben Tabellen und Abbildungen zu setzen
\newcommand{\TabBesBeg}[1][1.0]{%
 \let\MyTable\table
 \let\MyEndtable\endtable
 \renewenvironment{table}[1]{\begin{SCtable}[#1]##1}{\end{SCtable}}}

\newcommand{\TabBesEnd}{%
 \let\table\MyTable
 \let\endtable\MyEndtable}

\newcommand{\FigBesBeg}[1][1.0]{%
 \let\MyFigure\figure
 \let\MyEndfigure\endfigure
 \renewenvironment{figure}[1]{\begin{SCfigure}[#1]##1}{\end{SCfigure}}}

\newcommand{\FigBesEnd}{%
 \let\figure\MyFigure
 \let\endfigure\MyEndfigure}
###

and inserting 
\FigBesBeg
figure (as Embedded Object)
{\FigBesEnd}
in the text does not give me the sidecap.

The terminal output does not tell me anything conspicious:

Running: pdflatex  EmbeddedObjects.tex  /dev/null
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.5-1.40.14 (TeX Live 2013)
 restricted \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(./EmbeddedObjects.tex
LaTeX2e 2011/06/27
Babel 3.9f and hyphenation patterns for 78 languages loaded.


Running: xdg-open EmbeddedObjects.pdf

What am I missing?

Wolfgang

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

On 6 March 2014 23:51, Denis Navas Vega denis.na...@gmail.com wrote:


 That's a problem that I have suffered in the past with different programs,
 after windows actualizations.  This is a windows problem.


No idea what you meant by windows actualizations, but indeed I have had
some problems as well with some setups.  I once had problem installing
VMware Workstation in an updated version in my Windows XP.  But the problem
was resolved in the next updated version.  But the key word here is *in the
past*!!

That is to say I totally disagree with you!  Come on, we are already in
2014!  Windows 7 has been released more than 4 years ago.  Don't they have
enough time to fix problem in their setup during all this time?  Saying
that it's windows problem is purely a lame excuse.  If they are unable to
adapt, that simply mean they are not good enough.  QED.  Thinking about
evolution, if a species is unable to adapt to its environment, it's damned
to disappear soon.  I would bet this natural selection law also applies
here.

And don't give me the lame excuse that because it's free, it has to have
problem.  There are myriads of free programs out there in the Internet,
most of them don't have problem.  Why did they manage to do so?

Skillful people fix things immediately.  Unskillful people give excuse
immediately and blame the wrongs on others.

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

On 7 March 2014 05:10, aparsloe apars...@clear.net.nz wrote:


 I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX
 first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 64-bit
 version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer without
 problems,


OK, with all fairness, I have just tried the 64bit installer many times and
at one time it passed!  So your *good* experience is a fluke, you lucky guy
:)

In another instance, ie in another Win7 64bit, I tried to define its
compatibility to Vista and it worked.  That means the setup has not been
modified since prehistory (I mean 2006, more than 8 years ago)??


 but discovered that biber was missing from that distro -- evidently the
 64-bit distro is still experimental -- so I went back to the 32-bit
 MiKTeX 2.9 (the Basic distribution of 160 MB or so, and then added the
 packages detailed under LaTeX Configuration in LyX's Help menu).  It too
 installed without problems.

 As for MiKTeX being a  big piece of $h!t, I haven't had problems with it
 (and it certainly doesn't give me the kind of conflict between package
 managers mentioned in a recent thread on this list that users of TeXLive on
 Ubuntu systems face).

 Andrew


All this would lead to the only valid conclusion: MiKTeX and its setup are
too *unstable*.  I would certainly avoid using it if there's alternative
LaTeX distribution.

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

On 6 March 2014 23:51, Denis Navas Vega denis.na...@gmail.com wrote:


 That's a problem that I have suffered in the past with different programs,
 after windows actualizations.  This is a windows problem.



Oh, and one more thing.  Saying that is *a windows problem* is not a
constructive comment because it does not help users who want to install LyX
on their O/S, does it?  I mean, what did you expect people to do when you
said it's windows problem?  Does that give any concrete solution or
workaround?

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

On 7 March 2014 05:10, aparsloe apars...@clear.net.nz wrote:


  I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX
 first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 64-bit
 version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer without
 problems, [...deleted]


Oh, for information: I have just tried basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe in XP
Pro 64-bit.  Guess what.  It crashed on first trial.  LOL

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[stefano franchi]

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:12 AM, STF lapsap7+...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 7 March 2014 05:10, aparsloe apars...@clear.net.nz wrote:


 I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX
 first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 64-bit
 version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer without
 problems, [...deleted]


 Oh, for information: I have just tried basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe in XP
 Pro 64-bit.  Guess what.  It crashed on first trial.  LOL



I have never used TeX on Windows, but have you tried the TeXLive
disribution (the standard on Linux and Mac, in its MacTeX version)? It
is available for Windows too (just look on Ctan).
Perhaps it'll solve some of your problems.



Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[Stephan Witt]

Am 07.03.2014 um 16:12 schrieb STF lapsap7+...@gmail.com:

 On 7 March 2014 05:10, aparsloe apars...@clear.net.nz wrote:
 
 I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX 
 first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 64-bit 
 version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer without 
 problems, [...deleted]
 
 Oh, for information: I have just tried basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe in XP 
 Pro 64-bit.  Guess what.  It crashed on first trial.  LOL

Oh, for information: this is the LyX users list. And not the MiKTeX users list…

Regards,
Stephan

sidecap

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

I try to use the sidecap package to get the legend of my figure at the side.
I do get the desired position of the caption if I use the pdf output of the 
embedded objects lyx file

However, including the (what I think important) document preferences:

###
\usepackage{sidecap}

% Definitionen um Legenden neben Tabellen und Abbildungen zu setzen
\newcommand{\TabBesBeg}[1][1.0]{%
 \let\MyTable\table
 \let\MyEndtable\endtable
 \renewenvironment{table}[1]{\begin{SCtable}[#1]##1}{\end{SCtable}}}

\newcommand{\TabBesEnd}{%
 \let\table\MyTable
 \let\endtable\MyEndtable}

\newcommand{\FigBesBeg}[1][1.0]{%
 \let\MyFigure\figure
 \let\MyEndfigure\endfigure
 \renewenvironment{figure}[1]{\begin{SCfigure}[#1]##1}{\end{SCfigure}}}

\newcommand{\FigBesEnd}{%
 \let\figure\MyFigure
 \let\endfigure\MyEndfigure}
###

and inserting 
\FigBesBeg
figure (as Embedded Object)
{\FigBesEnd}
in the text does not give me the sidecap.

The terminal output does not tell me anything conspicious:

Running: pdflatex  EmbeddedObjects.tex  /dev/null
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.5-1.40.14 (TeX Live 2013)
 restricted \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(./EmbeddedObjects.tex
LaTeX2e 2011/06/27
Babel 3.9f and hyphenation patterns for 78 languages loaded.


Running: xdg-open EmbeddedObjects.pdf

What am I missing?

Wolfgang

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

On 6 March 2014 23:51, Denis Navas Vega  wrote:

>
> That's a problem that I have suffered in the past with different programs,
> after windows actualizations.  This is a windows problem.
>

No idea what you meant by "windows actualizations", but indeed I have had
some problems as well with some setups.  I once had problem installing
VMware Workstation in an updated version in my Windows XP.  But the problem
was resolved in the next updated version.  But the key word here is *in the
past*!!

That is to say I totally disagree with you!  Come on, we are already in
2014!  Windows 7 has been released more than 4 years ago.  Don't they have
enough time to fix problem in their setup during all this time?  Saying
that it's windows problem is purely a lame excuse.  If they are unable to
adapt, that simply mean they are not good enough.  QED.  Thinking about
evolution, if a species is unable to adapt to its environment, it's damned
to disappear soon.  I would bet this "natural selection law" also applies
here.

And don't give me the lame excuse that because it's free, it has to have
problem.  There are myriads of free programs out there in the Internet,
most of them don't have problem.  Why did they manage to do so?

"Skillful people fix things immediately.  Unskillful people give excuse
immediately and blame the wrongs on others."

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

On 7 March 2014 05:10, aparsloe  wrote:

>
> I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX
> first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 64-bit
> version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer without
> problems,


OK, with all fairness, I have just tried the 64bit installer many times and
at one time it passed!  So your *good* experience is a fluke, you lucky guy
:)

In another instance, ie in another Win7 64bit, I tried to define its
compatibility to Vista and it worked.  That means the setup has not been
modified since prehistory (I mean 2006, more than 8 years ago)??


> but discovered that biber was missing from that distro -- evidently the
> 64-bit distro is still "experimental" -- so I went back to the 32-bit
> MiKTeX 2.9 (the Basic distribution of 160 MB or so, and then added the
> packages detailed under LaTeX Configuration in LyX's Help menu).  It too
> installed without problems.
>
> As for MiKTeX being a " big piece of $h!t", I haven't had problems with it
> (and it certainly doesn't give me the kind of conflict between package
> managers mentioned in a recent thread on this list that users of TeXLive on
> Ubuntu systems face).
>
> Andrew


All this would lead to the only valid conclusion: MiKTeX and its setup are
too *unstable*.  I would certainly avoid using it if there's alternative
LaTeX distribution.

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

On 6 March 2014 23:51, Denis Navas Vega  wrote:


> That's a problem that I have suffered in the past with different programs,
> after windows actualizations.  This is a windows problem.
>


Oh, and one more thing.  Saying that is *a windows problem* is not a
constructive comment because it does not help users who want to install LyX
on their O/S, does it?  I mean, what did you expect people to do when you
said "it's windows problem"?  Does that give any concrete solution or
workaround?

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[STF]

On 7 March 2014 05:10, aparsloe  wrote:

>
>  I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX
> first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 64-bit
> version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer without
> problems, [...deleted]
>

Oh, for information: I have just tried basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe in XP
Pro 64-bit.  Guess what.  It crashed on first trial.  LOL

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[stefano franchi]

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:12 AM, STF  wrote:
>
> On 7 March 2014 05:10, aparsloe  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX
>> first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 64-bit
>> version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer without
>> problems, [...deleted]
>
>
> Oh, for information: I have just tried basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe in XP
> Pro 64-bit.  Guess what.  It crashed on first trial.  LOL
>
>

I have never used TeX on Windows, but have you tried the TeXLive
disribution (the standard on Linux and Mac, in its MacTeX version)? It
is available for Windows too (just look on Ctan).
Perhaps it'll solve some of your problems.



Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Error installing inside Windows 7 64-bit

[Stephan Witt]

Am 07.03.2014 um 16:12 schrieb STF :

> On 7 March 2014 05:10, aparsloe  wrote:
> 
> I've never tried installing the LyX bundle. I've always installed MiKTeX 
> first and then LyX -- and without problems. Recently I installed the 64-bit 
> version of MiKTeX 2.9 on a new(ish) 64-bit Windows 7 computer without 
> problems, [...deleted]
> 
> Oh, for information: I have just tried basic-miktex-2.9.5105-x64.exe in XP 
> Pro 64-bit.  Guess what.  It crashed on first trial.  LOL

Oh, for information: this is the LyX users list. And not the MiKTeX users list…

Regards,
Stephan

sidecap

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

I try to use the sidecap package to get the legend of my figure at the side.
I do get the desired position of the caption if I use the pdf output of the 
embedded objects lyx file

However, including the (what I think important) document preferences:

###
\usepackage{sidecap}

% Definitionen um Legenden neben Tabellen und Abbildungen zu setzen
\newcommand{\TabBesBeg}[1][1.0]{%
 \let\MyTable\table
 \let\MyEndtable\endtable
 \renewenvironment{table}[1]{\begin{SCtable}[#1]##1}{\end{SCtable}}}

\newcommand{\TabBesEnd}{%
 \let\table\MyTable
 \let\endtable\MyEndtable}

\newcommand{\FigBesBeg}[1][1.0]{%
 \let\MyFigure\figure
 \let\MyEndfigure\endfigure
 \renewenvironment{figure}[1]{\begin{SCfigure}[#1]##1}{\end{SCfigure}}}

\newcommand{\FigBesEnd}{%
 \let\figure\MyFigure
 \let\endfigure\MyEndfigure}
###

and inserting 
\FigBesBeg
figure (as "Embedded Object)
{\FigBesEnd}
in the text does not give me the sidecap.

The terminal output does not tell me anything conspicious:

Running: pdflatex  "EmbeddedObjects.tex" > /dev/null
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.5-1.40.14 (TeX Live 2013)
 restricted \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(./EmbeddedObjects.tex
LaTeX2e <2011/06/27>
Babel <3.9f> and hyphenation patterns for 78 languages loaded.


Running: xdg-open "EmbeddedObjects.pdf"

What am I missing?

Wolfgang