Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation

[Thomas de Grenier de Latour]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me?
 
 Edit by hand
 tkbibtex
 pybliographer (It's practical?)
 
 Of course, later I want an easy citation in Lyx
 
 Thanks for all

I only tried tkbibtex, and it works fine with LyX. Things I appreciate
are:
- easy to install (just a tcl/tk script)
- a few command line option to sort, extract... entries of the bib file
- the popup menu for an easy insert of your strings (which have to be
defined in an hand made separate file)
- about five minutes needed to learn how to use the all features

The only problem I've saw is that existing bibfiles have to respect a
few constraints to be readable by the prog (one line/field...)

Thomas.

Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation

[Guenter Milde]

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:09:02 +0200 (MET DST) wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me?
 
 Edit by hand

Not really. (Still it is an advantage of bibtex, that you are able to do so
with any normal text editor.)

 tkbibtex

This would be my program of choice: 
  - higly configurable (both from a user-rc file or by changing the skript)
  - easy and transparent in use
  - easy installation (just one file!) (of course you need a running tcl/Tk)
  - push to Lyx insertion of citations in LyX

 pybliographer (It's practical?)
  
Practical (becouse GUI) is pybliographic.  Still
  - more complex (in my opinion)
  
You see, my preference goes to tkbibtex (also, becouse I spend some months
on improving it, so no wonder it appeares to me as straightforward and fit
to my needs).

Push to LyX is no longer so important, as with LyX 1.6 you have the
possibility to scan the database from within LyX (ok, for larger databases
the find utility of the abovementioned programs is nice to have)

Both, tkbibtex and pybliographer become slow for large databases: 

For my previous institute I managed a large database with included abstacts
and annotations (ca. 800 entries, 18800 lines). Tkbibtex needs one minute to
read this in (and also long for full-text searches) and pybliographic is not
faster. (Becouse of the skripting-nature of both of them). 

In this case, gbib (http://gbib.seul.org/) might be a good choice, it has
push to LyX as well.

Finally: I believe it is a matter of taste - try them and see what you like
most.


Guenter

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Re: Protecting Math Environments

[Rainer Dorsch]

 Rainer Dorsch wrote:
  
   \newcommmand{\myMathEnv}{
 \begin{anyMathEnv}
 . all the mathstuff 
 \end{anyMathEnv}%
 
  I want to use the formula editor of lyx to enter the formulas. And it inserts
  in the latex file
  
  \( stuff \)
  
  but I need
  
  \protect\( stuff \protect\)
 
 i don't understand the sense of the second \protect.
 this works with the blue box, too

It simply does not work without the second protect :-)

 
 \newcommmand{\myMathEnv}{
 .. the lyx blue mathbox
 }

ok, something like \protect\myMathEnv{the lyx blue mathbox} might work.

I will experiment a little bit with it.

Thanks.

Rainer.

Re: Protecting Math Environments

[Dekel Tsur]

On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 08:23:07PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
 I want to use the formula editor of lyx to enter the formulas. And it inserts 
 in the latex file
 
 \( stuff \)
 
 but I need
 
 \protect\( stuff \protect\)

Just put \protect in latex mode before the math inset, and also go into the
math inset, and put \protect at the end of the inset (for the second protect,
you will not see the backslash on screen).

Re: Conversion Lyx to doc

[Jan Ulrich Hasecke]

chebira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I would like to know if ther are some converters from Lyx documents to
 RTF or DOC format. 

I never found a better solution than this bad solution. ;-)

1. Convert Lyx to HTML via tth
2. Start StarOffice :-( , load the HTML-File
3. Save the HTML-File as StarOffice-File
4. Reload the StarOffice-File
5. Save it as Word-File

All my dumb Word-Users never had problems with these files. ;-)

Perhaps it is possible to write a StarOffice-Macro to perform all
steps automagically. You can ask for it in a StarOffice-Newsgroup. If
you find a solution. please post it here!

 and in the other way rtf2doc or doc2lyx.

Isn't there a good Word-Import-Tool for LyX?

Ciao!
juh

-- 
Wahrheit schäubleweise
http://www.sudelbuch.de/2000/2202.html

Re: Conversion Lyx to doc

[Mayr]

Linux - the choice of a GNU generation !
(... because a PC is a terrible thing to waste)


PGP-Public Key can be downloaded at:
http://info.fh-eisenstadt.ac.at/~mayr.student.info/pgp_key.asc

 Jan Ulrich Hasecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/21 12:29  
chebira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I would like to know if ther are some converters from Lyx documents to
 RTF or DOC format. 
 and in the other way rtf2doc or doc2lyx.

one possibility would be to export the file as LaTex and then use
the ltx2rtf-converter
http://www.kfa-juelich.de/isr/1/texconv/ltx2rtf.html


Isn't there a good Word-Import-Tool for LyX?

some time again I heard the opinion (on this list?) that it ii the simplest solution 
to save the doc file as plain text and then import the textfile

greetings

peter

Re: About Table of Contents

[Herbert Voss]

Adolfo Pachón wrote:
 
 I want to use sections, subsections names without numbering. With the
 article class, I use the section* and subsection* stylesheets, but ...
 UPS!!, the TABLE OF CONTENTS don't work.
 
 Only works with sections, subsections, etc  numbered?
 Can I resolv it?

layout-document-extra-maxdepth--1

and than use chapter, section, ... as usual

Herbert



-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/

Long equation in a two-column article

[Matias Freytes]

Hello,
I have a two column article (ieeetrans.cls) and I have a
very long equation. I'd like two span the equation over both
colums:

aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
  my long equation (1)
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb

Any hints?

thanks in advance.
Matias.

Re: Inserting a figure that is wider than the preset margins...and wanting it that way

[Herbert Voss]

Michelle Dukich wrote:
 
 I have a table that is wider than my right and left
 margins, but not too high.  I would like to leave it
 in the middle of the page, and not rotate it 90
 degrees.  How do I change the margins--just for the
 inserted table?

if it's in a float just before the table i nthe same
line \hspace{-2cm} (for example)

http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/paragraph/margins.html#left

and don't worry, that lyx shows on screen the positive
value.

Herbert :-)



-- 
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getting closer to what I want for FloatNote

[Michelle Dukich]

  Greetings:

I am trying to still find a way to put a block of
shaded text that is also outlined, into a very
specific location in my text.  This is what I have
done:

I made a few tables (in a separate Lyx file) using
only one column and different row amounts (the row
amounts are based on coming up with a width for each
line of text so that the widths are uniform between
tables).  

I used the right click-cell-multicolumn option to
remove the lines between the rows and to left align
the horizontal rows.  

I inserted TeX command to create shading (which goes
over the edge of my box...but then I may just lose the
table edges altogether and just stick with the
shading):

\definecolor{light}{grey}{.75}{\colorbox{light}{**table
here**}

I then cut and pasted them into my document.  What I
get is the boxes looking very nice, but not in nice
locations.  And I would prefer to have the text wrap
around them like in Section 1.8.3 of the Lyx Extended
Features online handbook.  

If you have been following my posts, this is still my
attempt at FLOAT-NOTE.  The other suggestions I have
not yet made work to my satisfaction.  

Thanks in advance.

Michelle 
 


 


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Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation

[Marko Degenkolb]

Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2001 09:59 schrieben Sie:
 On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:09:02 +0200 (MET DST) wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to
  me?
[...]

 In this case, gbib (http://gbib.seul.org/) might be a good choice, it has
 push to LyX as well.


I use gbib as well. I have never tried tkbibtex and pybliographer since gbib 
seems to have a more convenient user interface (only judging by screenshots).
BUT: you have to be careful - it has some bugs:
 - in case the number of opening and closing braces per entry doesn't
   match (e.g. Zeitschrift f{\ur Dichtung) gbib generates invalid
   bibfiles which get corrupted when they are saved again with gbib
   (two bibitems are merged together)!!
 - If you create an bibitem with an emtpy author, the saved bibtex file
   isn't valid:
    @book{ap:kolonne,
        ,
editor = {A. Artur Kuhnert and Martin Raschke},
...
   I sent a patch to the maintainers but got no reply - so I don't know
   if gbib is still being maintained.

Marko

 Finally: I believe it is a matter of taste - try them and see what you like
 most.


 Guenter

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bibtex and apalike

[José Ernesto Jardim]

Hi

I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
problems (at least :-)

1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al.

2) It uses the entire author's name in the text. For example,

@Article{john99,
  Author = {{John Doe}},
  Title  = {A},
  institution= {BB},
  year   = 2000,
}

is printed on the text like (John Doe, 2000) instead of (Doe, 2000)

Can someone help me with this ?

Thanks

EJ

ps: I've included in the latex preamble \usepackage{apalike}

Re: problem with 116fix2 and pdflatex

[John Levon]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 05:10:21PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote:

 It is possible to disable compiler optimization if the compiler is gcc 2.96
 (but recent versions of gcc 2.96 work correctly, so people with older
 version should really upgrade).

Just to be clear: the latest available upgrade for RedHat 7.0 is still buggy.

regards,
john

-- 
Euler's equation contains the five most important numbers in mathematics.

Re: Bibtex and apalike

[Herbert Voss]

José Ernesto Jardim wrote:
 
 I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
 problems (at least :-)
 
 1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al.

what does it than?

Herbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/

Re: Bibtex and apalike

[Rodrigo Esteves de Lima-Lopes]

Hi

I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some
bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3.

Apa like will process such abreviation only in the citation, in the body
of the text, but not in the bibliography, when all the authors are
present.

For instance for the citation (Biber et al., 1999: 01) it will print at
the bibliography chapter:

Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R. 1999 Corpus
linguistics. London: Cambridge

[]s
lima-lopes

R.E. de Lima-Lopes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GNU/Linux Registered User # 182240

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Herbert Voss wrote:

 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:04:44 +0200
 From: Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: José Ernesto Jardim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Mailing List LyX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Bibtex and apalike
 
 José Ernesto Jardim wrote:
  
  I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
  problems (at least :-)
  
  1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al.
 
 what does it than?
 
 Herbert
 
 

Re: Bibtex and apalike

[José Ernesto Jardim]

Rodrigo Esteves de Lima-Lopes wrote:

 Hi

 I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some
 bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3.

 Apa like will process such abreviation only in the citation, in the body
 of the text, but not in the bibliography, when all the authors are
 present.

 For instance for the citation (Biber et al., 1999: 01) it will print at
 the bibliography chapter:

 Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R. 1999 Corpus
 linguistics. London: Cambridge

 []s
 lima-lopes
 
 R.E. de Lima-Lopes
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 GNU/Linux Registered User # 182240

 On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Herbert Voss wrote:

  Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:04:44 +0200
  From: Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: José Ernesto Jardim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Mailing List LyX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Bibtex and apalike
 
  José Ernesto Jardim wrote:
  
   I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
   problems (at least :-)
  
   1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al.
 
  what does it than?
 
  Herbert
 
 

Yes I know.

The problem is that, having the entry you're referring, I'm getting (Biber, D.
Conrad, S. and Reppen, R., 1999).

EJ

long view of digest messages with kmail

[Peer Frank]

Hi:

Not really a LyX question, but anyway:

I did not get kmail to display the messages of the daily digest, even with 
smart or inlined attachments activated, only the icons and message number are 
listed and have to be klicked, very annoying because one has to memorize the 
message number to klick open each subject of interest one by one (while 
Netscape messenger lists all messages in full length and detail).

Did anybody find a solution for this ?

Thanks
Peer

Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation

[Thomas de Grenier de Latour]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me?
 
 Edit by hand
 tkbibtex
 pybliographer (It's practical?)
 
 Of course, later I want an easy citation in Lyx
 
 Thanks for all

I only tried tkbibtex, and it works fine with LyX. Things I appreciate
are:
- easy to install (just a tcl/tk script)
- a few command line option to sort, extract... entries of the bib file
- the popup menu for an easy insert of your strings (which have to be
defined in an hand made separate file)
- about five minutes needed to learn how to use the all features

The only problem I've saw is that existing bibfiles have to respect a
few constraints to be readable by the prog (one line/field...)

Thomas.

Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation

[Guenter Milde]

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:09:02 +0200 (MET DST) wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me?
 
 Edit by hand

Not really. (Still it is an advantage of bibtex, that you are able to do so
with any normal text editor.)

 tkbibtex

This would be my program of choice: 
  - higly configurable (both from a user-rc file or by changing the skript)
  - easy and transparent in use
  - easy installation (just one file!) (of course you need a running tcl/Tk)
  - push to Lyx insertion of citations in LyX

 pybliographer (It's practical?)
  
Practical (becouse GUI) is pybliographic.  Still
  - more complex (in my opinion)
  
You see, my preference goes to tkbibtex (also, becouse I spend some months
on improving it, so no wonder it appeares to me as straightforward and fit
to my needs).

Push to LyX is no longer so important, as with LyX 1.6 you have the
possibility to scan the database from within LyX (ok, for larger databases
the find utility of the abovementioned programs is nice to have)

Both, tkbibtex and pybliographer become slow for large databases: 

For my previous institute I managed a large database with included abstacts
and annotations (ca. 800 entries, 18800 lines). Tkbibtex needs one minute to
read this in (and also long for full-text searches) and pybliographic is not
faster. (Becouse of the skripting-nature of both of them). 

In this case, gbib (http://gbib.seul.org/) might be a good choice, it has
push to LyX as well.

Finally: I believe it is a matter of taste - try them and see what you like
most.


Guenter

--
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Re: Protecting Math Environments

[Rainer Dorsch]

 Rainer Dorsch wrote:
  
   \newcommmand{\myMathEnv}{
 \begin{anyMathEnv}
 . all the mathstuff 
 \end{anyMathEnv}%
 
  I want to use the formula editor of lyx to enter the formulas. And it inserts
  in the latex file
  
  \( stuff \)
  
  but I need
  
  \protect\( stuff \protect\)
 
 i don't understand the sense of the second \protect.
 this works with the blue box, too

It simply does not work without the second protect :-)

 
 \newcommmand{\myMathEnv}{
 .. the lyx blue mathbox
 }

ok, something like \protect\myMathEnv{the lyx blue mathbox} might work.

I will experiment a little bit with it.

Thanks.

Rainer.

Re: Protecting Math Environments

[Dekel Tsur]

On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 08:23:07PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
 I want to use the formula editor of lyx to enter the formulas. And it inserts 
 in the latex file
 
 \( stuff \)
 
 but I need
 
 \protect\( stuff \protect\)

Just put \protect in latex mode before the math inset, and also go into the
math inset, and put \protect at the end of the inset (for the second protect,
you will not see the backslash on screen).

Conversion Lyx to doc

[chebira]

Hi,

I would like to know if ther are some converters from Lyx documents to
RTF or DOC format. and in the other way rtf2doc or doc2lyx.

Regards;




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About Table of Contents

[Adolfo Pachón]

Hi!!

I want to use sections, subsections names without numbering. With the
article class, I use the section* and subsection* stylesheets, but ...
UPS!!, the TABLE OF CONTENTS don't work.

Only works with sections, subsections, etc  numbered?
Can I resolv it?

 Thanks...

Re: Conversion Lyx to doc

[Jan Ulrich Hasecke]

chebira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I would like to know if ther are some converters from Lyx documents to
 RTF or DOC format. 

I never found a better solution than this bad solution. ;-)

1. Convert Lyx to HTML via tth
2. Start StarOffice :-( , load the HTML-File
3. Save the HTML-File as StarOffice-File
4. Reload the StarOffice-File
5. Save it as Word-File

All my dumb Word-Users never had problems with these files. ;-)

Perhaps it is possible to write a StarOffice-Macro to perform all
steps automagically. You can ask for it in a StarOffice-Newsgroup. If
you find a solution. please post it here!

 and in the other way rtf2doc or doc2lyx.

Isn't there a good Word-Import-Tool for LyX?

Ciao!
juh

-- 
Wahrheit schäubleweise
http://www.sudelbuch.de/2000/2202.html

Re: Conversion Lyx to doc

[Mayr]

Linux - the choice of a GNU generation !
(... because a PC is a terrible thing to waste)


PGP-Public Key can be downloaded at:
http://info.fh-eisenstadt.ac.at/~mayr.student.info/pgp_key.asc

 Jan Ulrich Hasecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/21 12:29  
chebira [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I would like to know if ther are some converters from Lyx documents to
 RTF or DOC format. 
 and in the other way rtf2doc or doc2lyx.

one possibility would be to export the file as LaTex and then use
the ltx2rtf-converter
http://www.kfa-juelich.de/isr/1/texconv/ltx2rtf.html


Isn't there a good Word-Import-Tool for LyX?

some time again I heard the opinion (on this list?) that it ii the simplest solution 
to save the doc file as plain text and then import the textfile

greetings

peter

Re: About Table of Contents

[Herbert Voss]

Adolfo Pachón wrote:
 
 I want to use sections, subsections names without numbering. With the
 article class, I use the section* and subsection* stylesheets, but ...
 UPS!!, the TABLE OF CONTENTS don't work.
 
 Only works with sections, subsections, etc  numbered?
 Can I resolv it?

layout-document-extra-maxdepth--1

and than use chapter, section, ... as usual

Herbert



-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/

Re: About Table of Contents

[Kathryn Andersen]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 12:16:58PM +0200, Adolfo Pachón wrote:
 Hi!!
 
 I want to use sections, subsections names without numbering. With the
 article class, I use the section* and subsection* stylesheets, but ...
 UPS!!, the TABLE OF CONTENTS don't work.
 
 Only works with sections, subsections, etc  numbered?
 Can I resolv it?

Yep.

Layout - Document
Click on the _Extra_ tab

Make Section number depth 0 (with Report or Book you need to make it
negative)

You can also adjust the Table of contents depth at this point too.

The Section number depth value determines at which level you *stop*
giving your sections numbers (the default for Articles is 3 -- so
Sections have numbers, Sub-Sections and Sub-Sub-Sections...)

The Table of contents depth determines at which level you stop putting
headers into the table of contents -- so if you only want Sections and
SubSections in the table of contents, then make the depth 2.

The starred versions (eg Section*) are there to make headings that
aren't counted -- they don't have numbers, and they aren't added to
the table of contents.

Kathryn Andersen
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AW: problem with 116fix2 and pdflatex

[Steffen Seufert]

On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 05:39:06PM +0200, Beyer, Marcus wrote:
 I am not quite sure if I understand you.
 Certainly there are many bugs fixed from fix1 to fix2.
 And that is very nice. (thank you!)
 
 But this bug is a new one (since fix2), and it is annoying.
 
 So I wouldn't have installed fix2 on my Windows system,
 which always costs me serveral hours.
 And oscillating between different versions is not so
 easy as with unix/linux, because the installation
 procedure changed a lot during the last versions.

 Are you sure that you didn't have this problem with fix1 ?
 I don't see how can this happen.

 Maybe you updated latex and this caused the problem ?

I don't think it's an update problem, because the problem
exists on my system, too.

I searched the archive about this problem:

Is it possible that it's caused by some optimizing compiling
options of gcc as mentioned earlier?

If it's so, how can the source made robust to be protected
about this optimizations?

Steffen

Long equation in a two-column article

[Matias Freytes]

Hello,
I have a two column article (ieeetrans.cls) and I have a
very long equation. I'd like two span the equation over both
colums:

aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
  my long equation (1)
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb

Any hints?

thanks in advance.
Matias.

Re: problem with 116fix2 and pdflatex

[Dekel Tsur]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 03:07:26PM +0200, Steffen Seufert wrote:
 I don't think it's an update problem, because the problem
 exists on my system, too.
 
 I searched the archive about this problem:
 
 Is it possible that it's caused by some optimizing compiling
 options of gcc as mentioned earlier?

It is possible.

 If it's so, how can the source made robust to be protected
 about this optimizations?

It is possible to disable compiler optimization if the compiler is gcc 2.96
(but recent versions of gcc 2.96 work correctly, so people with older
version should really upgrade).

Re: Inserting a figure that is wider than the preset margins...and wanting it that way

[Herbert Voss]

Michelle Dukich wrote:
 
 I have a table that is wider than my right and left
 margins, but not too high.  I would like to leave it
 in the middle of the page, and not rotate it 90
 degrees.  How do I change the margins--just for the
 inserted table?

if it's in a float just before the table i nthe same
line \hspace{-2cm} (for example)

http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/paragraph/margins.html#left

and don't worry, that lyx shows on screen the positive
value.

Herbert :-)



-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/

getting closer to what I want for FloatNote

[Michelle Dukich]

  Greetings:

I am trying to still find a way to put a block of
shaded text that is also outlined, into a very
specific location in my text.  This is what I have
done:

I made a few tables (in a separate Lyx file) using
only one column and different row amounts (the row
amounts are based on coming up with a width for each
line of text so that the widths are uniform between
tables).  

I used the right click-cell-multicolumn option to
remove the lines between the rows and to left align
the horizontal rows.  

I inserted TeX command to create shading (which goes
over the edge of my box...but then I may just lose the
table edges altogether and just stick with the
shading):

\definecolor{light}{grey}{.75}{\colorbox{light}{**table
here**}

I then cut and pasted them into my document.  What I
get is the boxes looking very nice, but not in nice
locations.  And I would prefer to have the text wrap
around them like in Section 1.8.3 of the Lyx Extended
Features online handbook.  

If you have been following my posts, this is still my
attempt at FLOAT-NOTE.  The other suggestions I have
not yet made work to my satisfaction.  

Thanks in advance.

Michelle 
 


 


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Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation

[Marko Degenkolb]

Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2001 09:59 schrieben Sie:
 On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:09:02 +0200 (MET DST) wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to
  me?
[...]

 In this case, gbib (http://gbib.seul.org/) might be a good choice, it has
 push to LyX as well.


I use gbib as well. I have never tried tkbibtex and pybliographer since gbib 
seems to have a more convenient user interface (only judging by screenshots).
BUT: you have to be careful - it has some bugs:
 - in case the number of opening and closing braces per entry doesn't
   match (e.g. Zeitschrift f{\ur Dichtung) gbib generates invalid
   bibfiles which get corrupted when they are saved again with gbib
   (two bibitems are merged together)!!
 - If you create an bibitem with an emtpy author, the saved bibtex file
   isn't valid:
    @book{ap:kolonne,
        ,
editor = {A. Artur Kuhnert and Martin Raschke},
...
   I sent a patch to the maintainers but got no reply - so I don't know
   if gbib is still being maintained.

Marko

 Finally: I believe it is a matter of taste - try them and see what you like
 most.


 Guenter

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Bibtex and apalike

[José Ernesto Jardim]

Hi

I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
problems (at least :-)

1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al.

2) It uses the entire author's name in the text. For example,

@Article{john99,
  Author = {{John Doe}},
  Title  = {A},
  institution= {BB},
  year   = 2000,
}

is printed on the text like (John Doe, 2000) instead of (Doe, 2000)

Can someone help me with this ?

Thanks

EJ

ps: I've included in the latex preamble \usepackage{apalike}

Re: problem with 116fix2 and pdflatex

[John Levon]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 05:10:21PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote:

 It is possible to disable compiler optimization if the compiler is gcc 2.96
 (but recent versions of gcc 2.96 work correctly, so people with older
 version should really upgrade).

Just to be clear: the latest available upgrade for RedHat 7.0 is still buggy.

regards,
john

-- 
Euler's equation contains the five most important numbers in mathematics.

Re: Bibtex and apalike

[Herbert Voss]

José Ernesto Jardim wrote:
 
 I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
 problems (at least :-)
 
 1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al.

what does it than?

Herbert

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http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/

Re: Bibtex and apalike

[Rodrigo Esteves de Lima-Lopes]

Hi

I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some
bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3.

Apa like will process such abreviation only in the citation, in the body
of the text, but not in the bibliography, when all the authors are
present.

For instance for the citation (Biber et al., 1999: 01) it will print at
the bibliography chapter:

Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R. 1999 Corpus
linguistics. London: Cambridge

[]s
lima-lopes

R.E. de Lima-Lopes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GNU/Linux Registered User # 182240

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Herbert Voss wrote:

 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:04:44 +0200
 From: Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: José Ernesto Jardim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Mailing List LyX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Bibtex and apalike
 
 José Ernesto Jardim wrote:
  
  I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
  problems (at least :-)
  
  1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al.
 
 what does it than?
 
 Herbert
 
 

Re: Bibtex and apalike

[José Ernesto Jardim]

Rodrigo Esteves de Lima-Lopes wrote:

 Hi

 I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some
 bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3.

 Apa like will process such abreviation only in the citation, in the body
 of the text, but not in the bibliography, when all the authors are
 present.

 For instance for the citation (Biber et al., 1999: 01) it will print at
 the bibliography chapter:

 Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R. 1999 Corpus
 linguistics. London: Cambridge

 []s
 lima-lopes
 
 R.E. de Lima-Lopes
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 GNU/Linux Registered User # 182240

 On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Herbert Voss wrote:

  Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:04:44 +0200
  From: Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: José Ernesto Jardim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Mailing List LyX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Bibtex and apalike
 
  José Ernesto Jardim wrote:
  
   I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
   problems (at least :-)
  
   1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process author et al.
 
  what does it than?
 
  Herbert
 
 

Yes I know.

The problem is that, having the entry you're referring, I'm getting (Biber, D.
Conrad, S. and Reppen, R., 1999).

EJ

long view of digest messages with kmail

[Peer Frank]

Hi:

Not really a LyX question, but anyway:

I did not get kmail to display the messages of the daily digest, even with 
smart or inlined attachments activated, only the icons and message number are 
listed and have to be klicked, very annoying because one has to memorize the 
message number to klick open each subject of interest one by one (while 
Netscape messenger lists all messages in full length and detail).

Did anybody find a solution for this ?

Thanks
Peer

Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation

[Thomas de Grenier de Latour]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me?
> 
> Edit by hand
> tkbibtex
> pybliographer (It's practical?)
> 
> Of course, later I want an easy citation in Lyx
> 
> Thanks for all

I only tried tkbibtex, and it works fine with LyX. Things I appreciate
are:
- easy to install (just a tcl/tk script)
- a few command line option to sort, extract... entries of the bib file
- the popup menu for an easy insert of your strings (which have to be
defined in an hand made separate file)
- about five minutes needed to learn how to use the all features

The only problem I've saw is that existing bibfiles have to respect a
few constraints to be readable by the prog (one line/field...)

Thomas.

Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation

[Guenter Milde]

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:09:02 +0200 (MET DST) wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> 
> I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to me?
> 
> Edit by hand

Not really. (Still it is an advantage of bibtex, that you are able to do so
with any "normal" text editor.)

> tkbibtex

This would be my program of choice: 
  - higly configurable (both from a user-rc file or by changing the skript)
  - easy and transparent in use
  - easy installation (just one file!) (of course you need a running tcl/Tk)
  - "push to Lyx" insertion of citations in LyX

> pybliographer (It's practical?)
  
Practical (becouse GUI) is pybliographic.  Still
  - more complex (in my opinion)
  
You see, my preference goes to tkbibtex (also, becouse I spend some months
on improving it, so no wonder it appeares to me as straightforward and "fit
to my needs").

Push to LyX is no longer so important, as with LyX 1.6 you have the
possibility to scan the database from within LyX (ok, for larger databases
the "find" utility of the abovementioned programs is nice to have)

Both, tkbibtex and pybliographer become slow for large databases: 

For my previous institute I managed a large database with included abstacts
and annotations (ca. 800 entries, 18800 lines). Tkbibtex needs one minute to
read this in (and also long for full-text searches) and pybliographic is not
faster. (Becouse of the skripting-nature of both of them). 

In this case, gbib (http://gbib.seul.org/) might be a good choice, it has
"push to LyX" as well.

Finally: I believe it is a matter of taste - try them and see what you like
most.


Guenter

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Re: Protecting Math Environments

[Rainer Dorsch]

> Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > 
> > > \newcommmand{\myMathEnv}{
> > >   \begin{anyMathEnv}
> > >   . all the mathstuff 
> > >   \end{anyMathEnv}%
> 
> > I want to use the formula editor of lyx to enter the formulas. And it inserts
> > in the latex file
> > 
> > \( stuff \)
> > 
> > but I need
> > 
> > \protect\( stuff \protect\)
> 
> i don't understand the sense of the second \protect.
> this works with the blue box, too

It simply does not work without the second protect :-)

> 
> \newcommmand{\myMathEnv}{
> .. the lyx blue mathbox
> }

ok, something like \protect\myMathEnv{the lyx blue mathbox} might work.

I will experiment a little bit with it.

Thanks.

Rainer.

Re: Protecting Math Environments

[Dekel Tsur]

On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 08:23:07PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> I want to use the formula editor of lyx to enter the formulas. And it inserts 
> in the latex file
> 
> \( stuff \)
> 
> but I need
> 
> \protect\( stuff \protect\)

Just put \protect in latex mode before the math inset, and also go into the
math inset, and put \protect at the end of the inset (for the second protect,
you will not see the backslash on screen).

Conversion Lyx to doc

[chebira]

Hi,

I would like to know if ther are some converters from Lyx documents to
RTF or DOC format. and in the other way rtf2doc or doc2lyx.

Regards;




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About Table of Contents

[Adolfo Pachón]

Hi!!

I want to use sections, subsections names without numbering. With the
article class, I use the "section*" and "subsection*" stylesheets, but ...
UPS!!, the TABLE OF CONTENTS don't work.

Only works with sections, subsections, etc  numbered?
Can I resolv it?

 Thanks...

Re: Conversion Lyx to doc

[Jan Ulrich Hasecke]

chebira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would like to know if ther are some converters from Lyx documents to
> RTF or DOC format. 

I never found a better solution than this bad solution. ;-)

1. Convert Lyx to HTML via tth
2. Start StarOffice :-( , load the HTML-File
3. Save the HTML-File as StarOffice-File
4. Reload the StarOffice-File
5. Save it as Word-File

All my dumb Word-Users never had problems with these files. ;-)

Perhaps it is possible to write a StarOffice-Macro to perform all
steps automagically. You can ask for it in a StarOffice-Newsgroup. If
you find a solution. please post it here!

> and in the other way rtf2doc or doc2lyx.

Isn't there a good Word-Import-Tool for LyX?

Ciao!
juh

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Re: Conversion Lyx to doc

[Mayr]

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>>> Jan Ulrich Hasecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/21 12:29  >>>
chebira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would like to know if ther are some converters from Lyx documents to
> RTF or DOC format. 
> and in the other way rtf2doc or doc2lyx.

one possibility would be to export the file as LaTex and then use
the ltx2rtf-converter
http://www.kfa-juelich.de/isr/1/texconv/ltx2rtf.html


>Isn't there a good Word-Import-Tool for LyX?

some time again I heard the opinion (on this list?) that it ii the simplest solution 
to save the doc file as plain text and then import the textfile

greetings

peter

Re: About Table of Contents

[Herbert Voss]

Adolfo Pachón wrote:
> 
> I want to use sections, subsections names without numbering. With the
> article class, I use the "section*" and "subsection*" stylesheets, but ...
> UPS!!, the TABLE OF CONTENTS don't work.
> 
> Only works with sections, subsections, etc  numbered?
> Can I resolv it?

layout->document->extra->maxdepth->-1

and than use chapter, section, ... as usual

Herbert



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Re: About Table of Contents

[Kathryn Andersen]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 12:16:58PM +0200, Adolfo Pachón wrote:
> Hi!!
> 
> I want to use sections, subsections names without numbering. With the
> article class, I use the "section*" and "subsection*" stylesheets, but ...
> UPS!!, the TABLE OF CONTENTS don't work.
> 
> Only works with sections, subsections, etc  numbered?
> Can I resolv it?

Yep.

Layout -> Document
Click on the _Extra_ tab

Make Section number depth 0 (with Report or Book you need to make it
negative)

You can also adjust the Table of contents depth at this point too.

The "Section number depth" value determines at which level you *stop*
giving your sections numbers (the default for Articles is 3 -- so
Sections have numbers, Sub-Sections and Sub-Sub-Sections...)

The "Table of contents depth" determines at which level you stop putting
headers into the table of contents -- so if you only want Sections and
SubSections in the table of contents, then make the depth 2.

The starred versions (eg Section*) are there to make headings that
aren't "counted" -- they don't have numbers, and they aren't added to
the table of contents.

Kathryn Andersen
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AW: problem with 116fix2 and pdflatex

[Steffen Seufert]

On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 05:39:06PM +0200, Beyer, Marcus wrote:
> I am not quite sure if I understand you.
> Certainly there are many bugs fixed from fix1 to fix2.
> And that is very nice. (thank you!)
> 
> But this bug is a new one (since fix2), and it is annoying.
> 
> So I wouldn't have installed fix2 on my Windows system,
> which always costs me serveral hours.
> And oscillating between different versions is not so
> easy as with unix/linux, because the installation
> procedure changed a lot during the last versions.

> Are you sure that you didn't have this problem with fix1 ?
> I don't see how can this happen.

> Maybe you updated latex and this caused the problem ?

I don't think it's an update problem, because the problem
exists on my system, too.

I searched the archive about this problem:

Is it possible that it's caused by some optimizing compiling
options of gcc as mentioned earlier?

If it's so, how can the source made robust to be protected
about this "optimizations"?

Steffen

Long equation in a two-column article

[Matias Freytes]

Hello,
I have a two column article (ieeetrans.cls) and I have a
very long equation. I'd like two span the equation over both
colums:

aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
  my long equation (1)
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb
aa  bb

Any hints?

thanks in advance.
Matias.

Re: problem with 116fix2 and pdflatex

[Dekel Tsur]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 03:07:26PM +0200, Steffen Seufert wrote:
> I don't think it's an update problem, because the problem
> exists on my system, too.
> 
> I searched the archive about this problem:
> 
> Is it possible that it's caused by some optimizing compiling
> options of gcc as mentioned earlier?

It is possible.

> If it's so, how can the source made robust to be protected
> about this "optimizations"?

It is possible to disable compiler optimization if the compiler is gcc 2.96
(but recent versions of gcc 2.96 work correctly, so people with older
version should really upgrade).

Re: Inserting a figure that is wider than the preset margins...and wanting it that way

[Herbert Voss]

Michelle Dukich wrote:
> 
> I have a table that is wider than my right and left
> margins, but not too high.  I would like to leave it
> in the middle of the page, and not rotate it 90
> degrees.  How do I change the margins--just for the
> inserted table?

if it's in a float just before the table i nthe same
line \hspace{-2cm} (for example)

http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/paragraph/margins.html#left

and don't worry, that lyx shows on screen the positive
value.

Herbert :-)



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getting closer to what I want for FloatNote

[Michelle Dukich]

  Greetings:

I am trying to still find a way to put a block of
shaded text that is also outlined, into a very
specific location in my text.  This is what I have
done:

I made a few tables (in a separate Lyx file) using
only one column and different row amounts (the row
amounts are based on coming up with a width for each
line of text so that the widths are uniform between
tables).  

I used the right click->cell->multicolumn option to
remove the lines between the rows and to left align
the horizontal rows.  

I inserted TeX command to create shading (which goes
over the edge of my box...but then I may just lose the
table edges altogether and just stick with the
shading):

\definecolor{light}{grey}{.75}{\colorbox{light}{**table
here**}

I then cut and pasted them into my document.  What I
get is the boxes looking very nice, but not in nice
locations.  And I would prefer to have the text "wrap"
around them like in Section 1.8.3 of the Lyx Extended
Features online handbook.  

If you have been following my posts, this is still my
attempt at "FLOAT-NOTE".  The other suggestions I have
not yet made work to my satisfaction.  

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Frontend Bibtex recommendation

[Marko Degenkolb]

Am Donnerstag, 21. Juni 2001 09:59 schrieben Sie:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:09:02 +0200 (MET DST) wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > I want to use a database for the bibliography. What do you recommend to
> > me?
[...]
>
> In this case, gbib (http://gbib.seul.org/) might be a good choice, it has
> "push to LyX" as well.
>

I use gbib as well. I have never tried tkbibtex and pybliographer since gbib 
seems to have a more convenient user interface (only judging by screenshots).
BUT: you have to be careful - it has some bugs:
 - in case the number of opening and closing braces per entry doesn't
   match (e.g. Zeitschrift f{\"ur Dichtung) gbib generates invalid
   bibfiles which get corrupted when they are saved again with gbib
   (two bibitems are "merged" together)!!
 - If you create an bibitem with an emtpy author, the saved bibtex file
   isn't valid:
    @book{ap:kolonne,
        ,
editor = {A. Artur Kuhnert and Martin Raschke},
...
   I sent a patch to the maintainers but got no reply - so I don't know
   if gbib is still being maintained.

Marko

> Finally: I believe it is a matter of taste - try them and see what you like
> most.
>
>
> Guenter
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bibtex and apalike

[José Ernesto Jardim]

Hi

I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
problems (at least :-)

1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process "author et al."

2) It uses the entire author's name in the text. For example,

@Article{john99,
  Author = {{John Doe}},
  Title  = {A},
  institution= {BB},
  year   = 2000,
}

is printed on the text like (John Doe, 2000) instead of (Doe, 2000)

Can someone help me with this ?

Thanks

EJ

ps: I've included in the latex preamble \usepackage{apalike}

Re: problem with 116fix2 and pdflatex

[John Levon]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 05:10:21PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote:

> It is possible to disable compiler optimization if the compiler is gcc 2.96
> (but recent versions of gcc 2.96 work correctly, so people with older
> version should really upgrade).

Just to be clear: the latest available upgrade for RedHat 7.0 is still buggy.

regards,
john

-- 
"Euler's equation contains the five most important numbers in mathematics."

Re: Bibtex and apalike

[Herbert Voss]

José Ernesto Jardim wrote:
> 
> I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
> problems (at least :-)
> 
> 1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process "author et al."

what does it than?

Herbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/

Re: Bibtex and apalike

[Rodrigo Esteves de Lima-Lopes]

Hi

I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some
bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3.

Apa like will process such abreviation only in the citation, in the body
of the text, but not in the bibliography, when all the authors are
present.

For instance for the citation (Biber et al., 1999: 01) it will print at
the bibliography chapter:

Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R. 1999 Corpus
linguistics. London: Cambridge

[]s
lima-lopes

R.E. de Lima-Lopes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
GNU/Linux Registered User # 182240

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Herbert Voss wrote:

> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:04:44 +0200
> From: Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: José Ernesto Jardim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Mailing List LyX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Bibtex and apalike
> 
> José Ernesto Jardim wrote:
> > 
> > I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
> > problems (at least :-)
> > 
> > 1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process "author et al."
> 
> what does it than?
> 
> Herbert
> 
> 

Re: Bibtex and apalike

[José Ernesto Jardim]

Rodrigo Esteves de Lima-Lopes wrote:

> Hi
>
> I et. al means and others (in latin), and it is used in some
> bibliographich styles to supress authors names, when they are more than 3.
>
> Apa like will process such abreviation only in the citation, in the body
> of the text, but not in the bibliography, when all the authors are
> present.
>
> For instance for the citation (Biber et al., 1999: 01) it will print at
> the bibliography chapter:
>
> Biber, D. Conrad, S. and Reppen, R. 1999 Corpus
> linguistics. London: Cambridge
>
> []s
> lima-lopes
> 
> R.E. de Lima-Lopes
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> GNU/Linux Registered User # 182240
>
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Herbert Voss wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:04:44 +0200
> > From: Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: José Ernesto Jardim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: Mailing List LyX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Bibtex and apalike
> >
> > José Ernesto Jardim wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm using bibtex and apalike style to process references. I have two
> > > problems (at least :-)
> > >
> > > 1) When there are more then 2 authors it doesn't process "author et al."
> >
> > what does it than?
> >
> > Herbert
> >
> >

Yes I know.

The problem is that, having the entry you're referring, I'm getting (Biber, D.
Conrad, S. and Reppen, R., 1999).

EJ

"long view" of digest messages with kmail

[Peer Frank]

Hi:

Not really a LyX question, but anyway:

I did not get kmail to display the messages of the daily digest, even with 
smart or inlined attachments activated, only the icons and message number are 
listed and have to be klicked, very annoying because one has to memorize the 
message number to klick open each subject of interest one by one (while 
Netscape messenger lists all messages in full length and detail).

Did anybody find a solution for this ?

Thanks
Peer