Re: citations and references in multi document files

[Georg Baum]

Micha Feigin wrote:

 I just split my thesis into multiple documents as it became impossible to
 handle after the 80 page mark without folding (which AFAIK lyx doesn't
 support).

Do you know View-Navigate?

 Anyway, this works find except for references and citations. references to
 other parts of the document have to be entered manually and I can only
 push
 citations from bibtex as they are not known to the local document and even
 then
 I can't control their format.
 
 Is there any solution to any of these problems?

Always open the child documents from the main document via the include
button. This assumes that the bibtex database is included in the main
document (you can trigger loading all included documents if you e.g. try to
insert a citation in the main document).


Georg

/dev/null

[sandro massidda]

I tried to configure lyx and I got this  problem, as in the README file

here is a very nasty bug in LyX 1.2.2 configure script: if you
configure as root and an error occurs during the configure step
(e.g. xforms not found), the the script will delete the /dev/null
device. This undoubtly leads to very bad effect, since /dev/null is a
very basic device in any unix system.

If you have been victim of this problem, please complain on i
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org to get information on how to
reconstruct it. 


can you help me?


--
Sandro Massidda
Dipartimento di Fisica
Universita' di Cagliari 
Cittadella Universitaria
S.P. Monserrato-Sestu Km 0.700  
I-09042 MONSERRATO (CA), Italy  
Tel +39 070  6754864 
Fax +39 070  510171

Re: first impressions of 1.3.6

[Olivier Ripoll]

Olivier Ripoll wrote:


Will I get the old integral style back for iint and iiint if I delete 
the wasy fonts and related files ?
Can I correct this by editing the file called symbol in the share/lyx 
directory ? It contains a correspondance symbol - font character


I just ask before I trash my local installation. :)


So I reply on myself because the information can be useful for others: I 
commented the 3 lines for oiint, iint and iiint in the symbol (or 
symbols?) file located in share/lyx/ directory. This way, I can get 
back the nice AMSmath double and triple integrals in LyX.


Olivier.

Re: /dev/null

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

Old-Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:25:45 +0200
From: sandro massidda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: /dev/null

can you help me?

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg35434.html

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Heretical question?

[Peter Rockett]

Thanks to all who responded to my requests for help to get LyX working. 
It's now functioning fine... but tex2lyx has problems translating my 
sample file so...


Having looked at Latex stuff a lot over the past few weeks as a Latex 
newbie, could I ask a (heretical!?) question? Why isn't LyX (or 
something else) a fully fledged WYSIWYG word processor? I can see the 
logic in how Donald Knuth designed things originally but I suspect a lot 
of that was guided by the fact that computers then were not capable of 
doing page rendering on the fly. But I don't think that restriction is 
true anymore. So is there any fundamental reason why Yap, say, couldn't 
be turned into a word processor... other then the obvious one of the 
effort involved? Just wondering because Latex is a significant learning 
curve and the tools are really rather rudimentary. WYSIWYG DTP programs 
exist!


Peter

Re: /dev/null

[Angus Leeming]

Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg35434.html

For those of you (like me) reading this throught the gmane news interface
which annoyingly encrypts stuff that it thinks are email addresses:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users%40lists.lyx.org/msg35434.html
or
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users AT lists.lyx.org/msg35434.html
Replace  AT  with @ or, equivalently, %40.

-- 
Angus

Re: Heretical question?

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Peter Rockett writes:
 Why isn't LyX (or
 something else) a fully fledged WYSIWYG word processor? 

Or a structured document processor, etc. Short answer: if you build it, 
they'll come -- i.e. someone has to have the time and inclination and 
skills to do this.

In the meantime, it remains what it is, a useful typesetting tool for 
books and large documents.

(my two cents -- better answers sure to follow)

-K
-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: Heretical question?

[Angus Leeming]

Peter Rockett wrote:

 tex2lyx has problems translating my sample file

Then post your sample so that tex2lyx can be improved.

 Why isn't LyX (or something else) a fully fledged WYSIWYG word processor?

Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/

-- 
Angus

Re: /dev/null

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 sandro == sandro massidda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

sandro I tried to configure lyx and I got this problem, as in the
sandro README file

sandro here is a very nasty bug in LyX 1.2.2 configure script: if you
sandro configure as root and an error occurs during the configure
sandro step (e.g. xforms not found), the the script will delete the
sandro /dev/null device. This undoubtly leads to very bad effect,
sandro since /dev/null is a very basic device in any unix system.

sandro If you have been victim of this problem, please complain on i
sandro lyx-users@lists.lyx.org to get information on how to
sandro reconstruct it.

sandro can you help me?

Hello,

I am very surprised that there are still people building 1.2.2 2 years
and a half later, but you can try the solution outlined here and in
the rest of the thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg50661.html

I am sorry for this problem.

JMarc

Re: Heretical question?

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Angus Leeming wrote:
 Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/

or (if you're on win) 
http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/microimp/

Jürgen

1.3.6 win continued

[treefox]

hello all
version 1.3.6 win is slower at startup, and its window position and size
at exit is still not memorized. can this be fixed? - would be great!
all in all, the installation took more time, with all the add-ons, than 
before...
thanks for the continuous effort and for the great program,
marco (zurich, switzerland)
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Mobilfon +41-76-335-3705

tex2lyx for MAC

[Giorgio Zavarise]

Dear Lyx People,

I have to import in lyx a latex file that contains a lot of user 
commands, and it seems that there is no way to do it. I would like to 
ask a couple of suggestions:
1) how to explain to Relyx that there is a command file to read and to 
use
2) I read about the new program tex2lyx  is there any pre-cooked 
(executable) version for MAC?


Thanks for any help

Giorgio Zavarise

Re: 1.3.6 win continued

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:25 AM
Subject: 1.3.6 win continued



hello all
version 1.3.6 win is slower at startup, and its window position and size
at exit is still not memorized. can this be fixed? - would be great!
all in all, the installation took more time, with all the add-ons, than 
before...

thanks for the continuous effort and for the great program,
marco (zurich, switzerland)


Just so there is a balance of views on the list...

I am not sure I agree with this (except the part about window position and 
size). I find that Lyx starts almost instantaniously now whereas before it 
took a noticeable amount of time.


As for installation time, well granted you have to install Python  and 
MinSys (and Perl if you want to use ReLyx) but apart from that you don't 
have any additional install components and they both install rapidly. They 
also mean you don't have to faff about getting new versions of sed.exe, 
writing little command files to do things and then finally getting a working 
version of Lyx.


I would say efficiency wise the new version is far superior, but then I am 
on a 100Mbps connection so downloading is hardly a chore.


Geoff





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Re: tex2lyx for MAC

[Angus Leeming]

Giorgio Zavarise wrote:

Dear Lyx People,

I have to import in lyx a latex file that contains a lot of user 
commands, and it seems that there is no way to do it. I would like to 
ask a couple of suggestions:

1) how to explain to Relyx that there is a command file to read and to use
2) I read about the new program tex2lyx  is there any pre-cooked 
(executable) version for MAC?


Thanks for any help

Giorgio Zavarise


Find some info on tex2lyx here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/LaTeX/LatexToLyx

In this thread:
   http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/23281
and in a private mail to me, Stefano Franchi s.franchi AT aukland.ac.uk 
was going to have a go at compiling tex2lyx for the mac. Maybe you could 
drop him a line.


If you succeed in compiling it, please shove it on the wiki.

Angus

Re: Heretical question?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Juergen == Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Juergen Angus Leeming wrote:
 Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/

Juergen or (if you're on win)
Juergen http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/microimp/

I did not know this one.

I guess there is also BaKoMa YeX Word:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/bakoma/

JMarc

Re: Heretical question?

[Herbert Voss]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

Angus Leeming wrote:


Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/



or (if you're on win) 
http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/microimp/


works also with wine under *nix and has an own homepage and
is a _real_ wysiwyg TeX

http://www.microimp.com

Herbert

multiple (extra) sub-menus in document's Navigate drop-down menu (1.3.5)

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Hi all,

[Sending this again as it gathered no responses before -- or wasn't 
delivered.]

I have a minor but annoying problem in LyX 1.3.5 (Linux)...

Under the Navigate menu one can see all six chapters of the book. 
Choosing one opens a sub-menu which lists the chapter title and all the 
sections it contains (which are all Subsubsections*). This works 
fine... except for two chapters.

If you select one of these two chapters you will get a sub-menu with 
just the chapter name, then another sub-menu with just the chapter 
name, and finally a third sub-menu with the full contents of the 
chapter as expected.

Why am I getting these extra menus just in these two chapters? The only 
thing they might have in common is that they were pasted into the 
master document from other LyX documents.

I'ved looked at the LyX code (I assume the important element is 
\layout ... but see absolutely no difference between any of the 
chapters and neither \layout Section nor \layout Subsection appear 
anywhere in the code. How does LyX build this Navigation menu and what 
does it see that I can't?

Thanks in advance guys (and gals??),

Kevin


* - Why Subsubsection? Because it was a quick and easy way to reduce the 
heading size for these sections and also eliminate section numbering 
while keeping them in the TOC. And it seemed to work just fine, until 
aforesaid problem arose.)

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: multiple (extra) sub-menus in document's Navigate drop-down menu (1.3.5)

[Angus Leeming]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:
 Under the Navigate menu one can see all six chapters of the book.
 Choosing one opens a sub-menu which lists the chapter title and all the
 sections it contains (which are all Subsubsections*). This works
 fine... except for two chapters.

 * - Why Subsubsection? Because it was a quick and easy way to reduce the
 heading size for these sections and also eliminate section numbering
 while keeping them in the TOC. And it seemed to work just fine, until
 aforesaid problem arose.)

You've answered the question yourself. The code assumes a natural hierarchy
Chapter-Section-SubSection-SubsubSection. You're just describing the
fact that your Section and SubSection menus are empty because you're
subverting WYSIWYM to give yourself instant visual satisfaction.

LyX is designed to give you a clean logical markup of your document. You're
subverting that aim.

If you want to change the visual markup of a Section then that is what you
should do. There are certainly experts on this list who will help you do
so. Same goes with the display of a section in the TOC without a section
number.

-- 
Angus

Re: Heretical question?

[samar j. singh]

On Thursday 21 July 2005 06:59, Herbert Voss wrote:
 Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
  Angus Leeming wrote:
 Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/
 
  or (if you're on win)
  http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/microimp/

 works also with wine under *nix and has an own homepage and
 is a _real_ wysiwyg TeX

 http://www.microimp.com

 Herbert

Angus and Herbert, Thanks for that intro to texmacs though I dont see myself 
using it for a wysiwyg wordprocessor. Indeed one of the great things I see 
about Lyx is the assurance that I have that things will look right without my 
wasting my writing and thinking time on that. However, it did fill a 
different void as I was intrigued to see that it allowed import of html and 
export of latex to allow an effective conversion from word to Lyx.

Have tried this out with one document which I converted from Word to html 
using OpenOffice and then imported into texmacs and exported into latex and 
then imported into Lyx.  I found some valuable features which make me think 
this is the best way I have seen of getting a word document into lyx

1. The graphic appeared in the lyx document but with some ERT   around it 
which was easily dispensed with
2. The sections and subsections  which appeared in Word as 5.1) were not 
entered as subsections but did appear with appropriate bold text and were 
correctly represented.
3. The title did not appear as a title but as a subsection which had been 
renewed in the preamble and therefore had to be removed
4. The itemised elements were identically replicated but using the right 
mixture of itemize and enumerate and  indenting
5. It took me about 3 minutes to do all the changes to make it into a 
respectable pdf file from Lyx.

I dont know how general these observations are, having been made on the basis 
of one conversion,  but there certainly seems to be a case for looking into 
it.

samar

Re: 1.3.6 win continued

[treefox]

thanks - as startup takes much longer now on my machine than 1.3.5, im will
have to check the firewall* etc. settings.
marco
* i might have disabled activeperl from acting as a server, though, if this
is relevant.

-- Original-Nachricht --
From: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: 1.3.6 win continued
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:32:52 +0100


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:25 AM
Subject: 1.3.6 win continued


 hello all
 version 1.3.6 win is slower at startup, and its window position and size
 at exit is still not memorized. can this be fixed? - would be great!
 all in all, the installation took more time, with all the add-ons, than

 before...
 thanks for the continuous effort and for the great program,
 marco (zurich, switzerland)

Just so there is a balance of views on the list...

I am not sure I agree with this (except the part about window position and

size). I find that Lyx starts almost instantaniously now whereas before
it

took a noticeable amount of time.

As for installation time, well granted you have to install Python  and 
MinSys (and Perl if you want to use ReLyx) but apart from that you don't

have any additional install components and they both install rapidly. They

also mean you don't have to faff about getting new versions of sed.exe,

writing little command files to do things and then finally getting a working

version of Lyx.

I would say efficiency wise the new version is far superior, but then I
am

on a 100Mbps connection so downloading is hardly a chore.

Geoff




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Lyx mac problem please Help

[A Soufi, Biochemistry]

Hi, Guys I Installed Lyx 1.3.6 on MacOSX. and teTex.
when i launch Lyx the first time after installation, I see all the output 
option from the view menu, but none of them seem to do anything.
then I reconfigure Lyx under Edit menu, restart Lyx and it comes up with 
the error of. The document class unavailable, I checked the layout of 
document and none of the document classes are available anymore?
I tried to set the output file format viewers in the preferences but none 
of the output options is available anymore.
I checked Latex and it is working fine when I use TexShop viewer, or 
commanline.

Please can anybody help?


--
A Soufi, Biochemistry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 1.3.6 for Win

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

But the newest tex2lyx produces file format 243, and LyX 1.3.6 can only read
242. So the instructions on the wiki page should be modified:

You may have to replace LyX.py and lyx_1_4.py of LyX 1.3.6 with the
versions from here:
http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/lib/lyx2lyx/


Jean-Pierre, it would be nice if you could do that and maaybe add some more
details. All files of lyx2lyx except lyx2lyx itself can be replaced with
their 1.4 counterpart without problems.

Both the Win tex2lyx bundle and the Solaris tex2lyx bundle provide 241 format,
so that copying the binary is enough.


Yes. But the syntax of the 1.4 layout files is changed. For example I could
not use beamer.layout with 1.4 but had to make some modifications. I'll
attach a diff so you can see the differences.

Right, I had to tex2lyx in the bundle after copying the 1.4 version to make it 
work,
otherwise I got this:
log
Ignoring options 'T1' of package fontenc.
LyX: Unknown TextClass tag `MaxCounter' [around line 15 of file c:\Program 
Fil\LyX-1.4\LyX\Resources\lyx\layouts\beamer.layout]
We failed to find the layout 'Standard' in the layout list. You MUST investiga!
Assertion triggered in const LyXLayout_ptr LyXTextClass::operator[](const 
stdstring) const by failing check false in file 
lyxtextclass.C:816

abnormal program termination
/log

What's surprising is that the same operation performed on the same file on 
Solaris works fine
(and the lyx file is correct as the Solaris version includes your patch for bug 
#1910).

Anyway beamer is particular as it is not part of the LyX bundle, so we're off 
the baseline distrib here.

A round trip on a technical report including many formulas and graphics seems 
OK on both ports
(but round trip means that the tex files are formally correct because created 
by lyx export,
so that's not really a real life example which would exhibit translation of 
much varied LaTeX constructs).

Finally calling tex2lyx from lyx does not seem appropriate on the Win port 
since the log remains hidden
(I just get a popup about conversion error w the above example).
Decompressing the tex2lyx bundle, updating the PATH and executing in a MinGW 
window is more informative.

Correct me there if an monitoring when executing from LyX is possible.


-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: 1.3.6 for Win

[Georg Baum]

Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote:

 Both the Win tex2lyx bundle and the Solaris tex2lyx bundle provide 241
 format, so that copying the binary is enough.

But that will change ;-)

 Ignoring options 'T1' of package fontenc.
 LyX: Unknown TextClass tag `MaxCounter' [around line 15 of file c:\Program
 Fil\LyX-1.4\LyX\Resources\lyx\layouts\beamer.layout] We failed to find the
 layout 'Standard' in the layout list. You MUST investiga! Assertion
 triggered in const LyXLayout_ptr LyXTextClass::operator[](const
 stdstring) const by failing check false in file lyxtextclass.C:816
 
 abnormal program termination
 /log
 
 What's surprising is that the same operation performed on the same file on
 Solaris works fine (and the lyx file is correct as the Solaris version
 includes your patch for bug #1910).

I don't know what happens exactly, but I don't care either because LyX 1.4
and tex2lyx are not supposed to read old .layout files (at least until now
- maybe we need a lay2layout converter).

 Anyway beamer is particular as it is not part of the LyX bundle, so we're
 off the baseline distrib here.

I chose it because it uses almost every layout file construct to demonstrate
the file format changes, but you can as well take any standard layout
file that uses things like MaxCounter, e.g. docbook.layout.

 Finally calling tex2lyx from lyx does not seem appropriate on the Win port
 since the log remains hidden (I just get a popup about conversion error w
 the above example). Decompressing the tex2lyx bundle, updating the PATH
 and executing in a MinGW window is more informative.
 
 Correct me there if an monitoring when executing from LyX is possible.

You will see the output if you start LyX from a console window. This applies
to all converters and is identical on all platforms.


Georg

Re: tex2lyx for MAC

[Bennett Helm]

On Jul 21, 2005, at 6:32 AM, Giorgio Zavarise wrote:

2) I read about the new program tex2lyx  is there any pre-cooked 
(executable) version for MAC?


I've placed a version on the wiki. As Angus said, the wiki page on 
tex2lyx is: http://wiki.lyx.org/LaTeX/LatexToLyx, from which you can 
find a link to the Mac version. (The direct link to the Mac version is: 
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/MacOSX/tex2lyx.zip.)


Bennett

Re: Lyx mac problem please Help

[Georg Kö]

Am 21.07.2005 um 14:30 schrieb A Soufi, Biochemistry:



Hi, Guys I Installed Lyx 1.3.6 on MacOSX. and teTex.
when i launch Lyx the first time after installation, I see all the  
output option from the view menu, but none of them seem to do  
anything.
then I reconfigure Lyx under Edit menu, restart Lyx and it comes up  
with the error of. The document class unavailable, I checked the  
layout of document and none of the document classes are available  
anymore?
I tried to set the output file format viewers in the preferences  
but none of the output options is available anymore.
I checked Latex and it is working fine when I use TexShop viewer,  
or commanline.

Please can anybody help?


Have you used the new installer? (ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.3.6/ 
LyX-1.3.6-2Mac.dmg)


If not you will find the solution here: http://www.mail-archive.com/ 
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg40803.html


Georg

Re: Lyx mac problem please Help

[Bennett Helm]

On Jul 21, 2005, at 8:30 AM, A Soufi, Biochemistry wrote:



Hi, Guys I Installed Lyx 1.3.6 on MacOSX. and teTex.
when i launch Lyx the first time after installation, I see all the  
output option from the view menu, but none of them seem to do  
anything.
then I reconfigure Lyx under Edit menu, restart Lyx and it comes up  
with the error of. The document class unavailable, I checked the  
layout of document and none of the document classes are available  
anymore?
I tried to set the output file format viewers in the preferences but  
none of the output options is available anymore.
I checked Latex and it is working fine when I use TexShop viewer, or  
commanline.

Please can anybody help?


A new version of LyX/Mac has been posted which should solve the problem  
for new installations.


If you are upgrading from an earlier version of LyX/Mac (and you have  
run the old installer script previously), the fix is to edit your  
preferences as follows: in Preferences  Paths  PATH Prefix, enter  
/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin- 
current:/usr/X11R6/bin:/sw/bin:/opt/local/teTeX/bin (without the  
quotes). You'll then need to do Edit  Reconfigure, restart LyX, do  
Edit  Reconfigure again, restart LyX, and all should be well.


Sorry about this, but do let us know if you continue to have problems.

Bennett

Re: 1.3.6 for Win

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 21 July 2005 14:12, Georg Baum wrote:
 I don't know what happens exactly, but I don't care either because LyX
 1.4 and tex2lyx are not supposed to read old .layout files (at least
 until now - maybe we need a lay2layout converter).

  This can be done easily. I will see what I can do. :-)

  I mean another python converter, of course. ;-)
-- 
José Abílio

Re: tex2lyx for MAC

[Angus Leeming]

Bennett Helm wrote:
 I've placed a version on the wiki. As Angus said, the wiki page on
 tex2lyx is: http://wiki.lyx.org/LaTeX/LatexToLyx, from which you can
 find a link to the Mac version. (The direct link to the Mac version is:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/MacOSX/tex2lyx.zip.)
 
 Bennett

Bennett, this is just the executable. You'll need a bunch of support stuff
too (layout files, lyx2lyx to go from format 243 back to 221).

If you grab the make_tex2lyx_dist.sh script from
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LaTeX/tex2lyx then everything should be done
automatically.

-- 
Angus

Re: multiple (extra) sub-menus in document's Navigate drop-down menu (1.3.5)

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Hi Angus,

You write:
 You've answered the question yourself. The code assumes a natural
 hierarchy Chapter-Section-SubSection-SubsubSection. You're just
 describing the fact that your Section and SubSection menus are empty
 because you're subverting WYSIWYM to give yourself instant visual
 satisfaction.

But LyX is working inconsistently then, because for four of the seven 
chapters this worked just fine -- or failed, if you wish, if you 
reverse the logic. I.e. four chapters do _not_ reflect the true 
hierarchy (two empty levels) and three chapters do.

The only reason I went down this road is because it worked for the first 
four chapters. (Which apparently it should not have -- i.e. there's a 
bug there.) What is frustrating is that I see no difference at all in 
the mark-up and therefore see no reason that one chapter should display 
differently than another in the Navigation menu. :-(

 If you want to change the visual markup of a Section then that is
 what you should do. There are certainly experts on this list who will
 help you do so. Same goes with the display of a section in the TOC
 without a section number.

No section is no problem, and I believe that I can adjust font size of 
the sections using the information that comes with the particular book 
class (but of course I have other things that I could be doing 
instead).

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: Heretical question?

[Paul A. Rubin]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Juergen == Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Juergen Angus Leeming wrote:


Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/



Juergen or (if you're on win)
Juergen http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/microimp/

I did not know this one.

I guess there is also BaKoMa YeX Word:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/bakoma/

JMarc

Can anyone summarize pros/cons of the various options listed in this 
thread?  You're all using (and most are actively developing) LyX, so I 
assume you see some advantages to LyX, right?


Paul

Re: multiple (extra) sub-menus in document's Navigate drop-down menu (1.3.5)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Kevin == Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Kevin But LyX is working inconsistently then, because for four of the
Kevin seven chapters this worked just fine -- or failed, if you wish,
Kevin if you reverse the logic. I.e. four chapters do _not_ reflect
Kevin the true hierarchy (two empty levels) and three chapters do.

If you have a (small) file that demonstrate the problem, we can have a
look. 

Note that I have fixed the behaviour you describe in 1.4.0cvs, because
this can happen also for some 'normal' uses (article with parts).

 If you want to change the visual markup of a Section then that is
 what you should do. There are certainly experts on this list who
 will help you do so. Same goes with the display of a section in the
 TOC without a section number.

Kevin No section is no problem, and I believe that I can adjust font
Kevin size of the sections using the information that comes with the
Kevin particular book class (but of course I have other things that I
Kevin could be doing instead).

As far as numbering is concerned, just go to LayoutDocumentNumbering
and adjust the section slider to fit your needs.

JMarc

Re: 1.3.6 for Win

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote:

 Both the Win tex2lyx bundle and the Solaris tex2lyx bundle provide 241
 format, so that copying the binary is enough.

But that will change ;-)

[..]
 What's surprising is that the same operation performed on the same file on
 Solaris works fine (and the lyx file is correct as the Solaris version
 includes your patch for bug #1910).

I don't know what happens exactly, but I don't care either because LyX 1.4
and tex2lyx are not supposed to read old .layout files (at least until now
- maybe we need a lay2layout converter).

 Finally calling tex2lyx from lyx does not seem appropriate on the Win port
 since the log remains hidden (I just get a popup about conversion error w
 the above example). Decompressing the tex2lyx bundle, updating the PATH
 and executing in a MinGW window is more informative.
 
 Correct me there if an monitoring when executing from LyX is possible.

You will see the output if you start LyX from a console window. This applies
to all converters and is identical on all platforms.

Well it seems that it's prematurate to merge the tex2lyx bundle tree
with the standard 1.3.6 LyX tree.

Maybe the make_tex2lyx_dist.sh could reflect this by bundling in LyX-1.4
instead of LyX ? Decompression in Program Files would be straightforward and 
flawless.
Respecting a parallel standard install of LyX and LyX-1.4 would also allow 
reference
to Lyx-1.4 by LyX (kind of Sarge/Etch distribution :-)

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Lyx mac problem solved :-)

[A Soufi, Biochemistry]

hi, it's looks that it's working fine now when I set the path as you 
suggested.

many thanks.


--On Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:38 pm +0200 Georg Kö [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:




Am 21.07.2005 um 14:30 schrieb A Soufi, Biochemistry:



Hi, Guys I Installed Lyx 1.3.6 on MacOSX. and teTex.
when i launch Lyx the first time after installation, I see all the
output option from the view menu, but none of them seem to do
anything.
then I reconfigure Lyx under Edit menu, restart Lyx and it comes up
with the error of. The document class unavailable, I checked the
layout of document and none of the document classes are available
anymore?
I tried to set the output file format viewers in the preferences
but none of the output options is available anymore.
I checked Latex and it is working fine when I use TexShop viewer,
or commanline.
Please can anybody help?


Have you used the new installer? (ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.3.6/
LyX-1.3.6-2Mac.dmg)

If not you will find the solution here: http://www.mail-archive.com/
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg40803.html

Georg




--
A Soufi, Biochemistry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Heretical question?

[Mark Carroll]

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Can anyone summarize pros/cons of the various options listed in this 
 thread?  You're all using (and most are actively developing) LyX, so I 
 assume you see some advantages to LyX, right?

I like it as a LaTeX front-end with a much shallower learning curve. I
like LaTeX because it does a good job of figuring out the large-scale
typesetting (floats and things). I don't want to manually do typesetting
in a case-specific manner because whenever I modify the document I then
end up having to re-typeset it.

-- Mark

Re: tex2lyx for MAC

[Bennett Helm]

On Jul 21, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Angus Leeming wrote:


Bennett Helm wrote:

I've placed a version on the wiki. As Angus said, the wiki page on
tex2lyx is: http://wiki.lyx.org/LaTeX/LatexToLyx, from which you can
find a link to the Mac version. (The direct link to the Mac version 
is:

http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/MacOSX/tex2lyx.zip.)

Bennett


Bennett, this is just the executable. You'll need a bunch of support 
stuff

too (layout files, lyx2lyx to go from format 243 back to 221).

If you grab the make_tex2lyx_dist.sh script from
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LaTeX/tex2lyx then everything should be 
done

automatically.


Fixed ... and the wiki updated.

Bennett

Re: citations and references in multi document files

[Micha Feigin]

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:48:52 +0200
Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Micha Feigin wrote:
  references to
  other parts of the document have to be entered manually and I can only
  push
  citations from bibtex as they are not known to the local document and even
  then
  I can't control their format.
 
  Is there any solution to any of these problems?
 
 Workaround for citations: Copy the bibtex inset (they grey bibtex references 
 box) to each child format and put it into a note inset or a Comment 
 paragraph.
 

Thanks, I tried the note inset which didn't work, the comment paragraph works
great.

 References: there is a drop down box in the cross references dialog, where 
 you 
 can select any opened document.
 

Thanks, didn't notice that one. Solves that problem also.

 HTH,
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Re: citations and references in multi document files

[Micha Feigin]

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:40:08 +0200
Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Micha Feigin wrote:
 
  I just split my thesis into multiple documents as it became impossible to
  handle after the 80 page mark without folding (which AFAIK lyx doesn't
  support).
 
 Do you know View-Navigate?
 

I do, works great for medium documents, but from some point its still not
enough. I tried using a combination of bookmarks and View-Navigate, but I need
to move around a bit and I still keep losing my position.

Also, when splitting the files, using the preview is much faster and allows to
concentrate on a chapter at a time.

  Anyway, this works find except for references and citations. references to
  other parts of the document have to be entered manually and I can only
  push
  citations from bibtex as they are not known to the local document and even
  then
  I can't control their format.
  
  Is there any solution to any of these problems?
 
 Always open the child documents from the main document via the include
 button. This assumes that the bibtex database is included in the main
 document (you can trigger loading all included documents if you e.g. try to
 insert a citation in the main document).
 

Tried that, but at least with lyx 1.3.4 (the version currently in debian) this
doesn't work. References can be chosen from other open documents but the bibtex
entry in the master document isn't recognized.

The suggestion I got in the other email to put the bibtex entry into a comment
paragraph works great though.

 
 Georg
 
  
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Re: citations and references in multi document files

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Another way to do it is to 'compile' the main document first, eg by doing 
view dvi.


This effectively lets all Includes see all the other stuff such as biblios 
or sections in other includes for cross referencing.



- Original Message - 
From: Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: citations and references in multi document files



On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:40:08 +0200
Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Micha Feigin wrote:

 I just split my thesis into multiple documents as it became impossible 
 to

 handle after the 80 page mark without folding (which AFAIK lyx doesn't
 support).

Do you know View-Navigate?



I do, works great for medium documents, but from some point its still not
enough. I tried using a combination of bookmarks and View-Navigate, but I 
need

to move around a bit and I still keep losing my position.

Also, when splitting the files, using the preview is much faster and 
allows to

concentrate on a chapter at a time.

 Anyway, this works find except for references and citations. references 
 to

 other parts of the document have to be entered manually and I can only
 push
 citations from bibtex as they are not known to the local document and 
 even

 then
 I can't control their format.

 Is there any solution to any of these problems?

Always open the child documents from the main document via the include
button. This assumes that the bibtex database is included in the main
document (you can trigger loading all included documents if you e.g. try 
to

insert a citation in the main document).



Tried that, but at least with lyx 1.3.4 (the version currently in debian) 
this
doesn't work. References can be chosen from other open documents but the 
bibtex

entry in the master document isn't recognized.

The suggestion I got in the other email to put the bibtex entry into a 
comment

paragraph works great though.



Georg


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Mac installation problem

[Lenore Horner]

I thought I'd upgrade to the most recent version of LyX (from 1.3.3) on 
my iBook running 10.3.9.  I downloaded the binary, dragged the LyX icon 
to my Applications folder and then double clicked the LyX Installer 
icon whereupon I received the message: The operation could not be 
completed.  An unexpected error occurred (error code -10660).  Any 
suggestions?  A cursory trial of LyX shows that it runs and displays 
pdf output.  I'm rather surprised at that because it should be looking 
the wrong place for preferences I thought.   I didn't try editing a 
file.

Page Style Fancy Problem

[Roger McMurtrie]

I am using the document class book with page style fancy.
However, footnotes on Chapter pages don't appear when viewed.
My LaTeX book suggests that maybe I should use \pagestyle{fancyplain} which I 
tried putting in the preamble but this didn't work.
I imagine there's a simple solution but I can't find it.

Roger

Re: citations and references in multi document files

[Georg Baum]

Micha Feigin wrote:

 I just split my thesis into multiple documents as it became impossible to
 handle after the 80 page mark without folding (which AFAIK lyx doesn't
 support).

Do you know View-Navigate?

 Anyway, this works find except for references and citations. references to
 other parts of the document have to be entered manually and I can only
 push
 citations from bibtex as they are not known to the local document and even
 then
 I can't control their format.
 
 Is there any solution to any of these problems?

Always open the child documents from the main document via the include
button. This assumes that the bibtex database is included in the main
document (you can trigger loading all included documents if you e.g. try to
insert a citation in the main document).


Georg

/dev/null

[sandro massidda]

I tried to configure lyx and I got this  problem, as in the README file

here is a very nasty bug in LyX 1.2.2 configure script: if you
configure as root and an error occurs during the configure step
(e.g. xforms not found), the the script will delete the /dev/null
device. This undoubtly leads to very bad effect, since /dev/null is a
very basic device in any unix system.

If you have been victim of this problem, please complain on i
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org to get information on how to
reconstruct it. 


can you help me?


--
Sandro Massidda
Dipartimento di Fisica
Universita' di Cagliari 
Cittadella Universitaria
S.P. Monserrato-Sestu Km 0.700  
I-09042 MONSERRATO (CA), Italy  
Tel +39 070  6754864 
Fax +39 070  510171

Re: first impressions of 1.3.6

[Olivier Ripoll]

Olivier Ripoll wrote:


Will I get the old integral style back for iint and iiint if I delete 
the wasy fonts and related files ?
Can I correct this by editing the file called symbol in the share/lyx 
directory ? It contains a correspondance symbol - font character


I just ask before I trash my local installation. :)


So I reply on myself because the information can be useful for others: I 
commented the 3 lines for oiint, iint and iiint in the symbol (or 
symbols?) file located in share/lyx/ directory. This way, I can get 
back the nice AMSmath double and triple integrals in LyX.


Olivier.

Re: /dev/null

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

Old-Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:25:45 +0200
From: sandro massidda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: /dev/null

can you help me?

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg35434.html

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Heretical question?

[Peter Rockett]

Thanks to all who responded to my requests for help to get LyX working. 
It's now functioning fine... but tex2lyx has problems translating my 
sample file so...


Having looked at Latex stuff a lot over the past few weeks as a Latex 
newbie, could I ask a (heretical!?) question? Why isn't LyX (or 
something else) a fully fledged WYSIWYG word processor? I can see the 
logic in how Donald Knuth designed things originally but I suspect a lot 
of that was guided by the fact that computers then were not capable of 
doing page rendering on the fly. But I don't think that restriction is 
true anymore. So is there any fundamental reason why Yap, say, couldn't 
be turned into a word processor... other then the obvious one of the 
effort involved? Just wondering because Latex is a significant learning 
curve and the tools are really rather rudimentary. WYSIWYG DTP programs 
exist!


Peter

Re: /dev/null

[Angus Leeming]

Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg35434.html

For those of you (like me) reading this throught the gmane news interface
which annoyingly encrypts stuff that it thinks are email addresses:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users%40lists.lyx.org/msg35434.html
or
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users AT lists.lyx.org/msg35434.html
Replace  AT  with @ or, equivalently, %40.

-- 
Angus

Re: Heretical question?

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Peter Rockett writes:
 Why isn't LyX (or
 something else) a fully fledged WYSIWYG word processor? 

Or a structured document processor, etc. Short answer: if you build it, 
they'll come -- i.e. someone has to have the time and inclination and 
skills to do this.

In the meantime, it remains what it is, a useful typesetting tool for 
books and large documents.

(my two cents -- better answers sure to follow)

-K
-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: Heretical question?

[Angus Leeming]

Peter Rockett wrote:

 tex2lyx has problems translating my sample file

Then post your sample so that tex2lyx can be improved.

 Why isn't LyX (or something else) a fully fledged WYSIWYG word processor?

Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/

-- 
Angus

Re: /dev/null

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 sandro == sandro massidda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

sandro I tried to configure lyx and I got this problem, as in the
sandro README file

sandro here is a very nasty bug in LyX 1.2.2 configure script: if you
sandro configure as root and an error occurs during the configure
sandro step (e.g. xforms not found), the the script will delete the
sandro /dev/null device. This undoubtly leads to very bad effect,
sandro since /dev/null is a very basic device in any unix system.

sandro If you have been victim of this problem, please complain on i
sandro lyx-users@lists.lyx.org to get information on how to
sandro reconstruct it.

sandro can you help me?

Hello,

I am very surprised that there are still people building 1.2.2 2 years
and a half later, but you can try the solution outlined here and in
the rest of the thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg50661.html

I am sorry for this problem.

JMarc

Re: Heretical question?

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Angus Leeming wrote:
 Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/

or (if you're on win) 
http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/microimp/

Jürgen

1.3.6 win continued

[treefox]

hello all
version 1.3.6 win is slower at startup, and its window position and size
at exit is still not memorized. can this be fixed? - would be great!
all in all, the installation took more time, with all the add-ons, than 
before...
thanks for the continuous effort and for the great program,
marco (zurich, switzerland)
--
Guggerstrasse 17
CH-8702 Zollikon
Schweiz-Suisse-Switzerland
Telefon +41-44-391-3705
Telefax +41-44-391-3779
Mobilfon +41-76-335-3705

tex2lyx for MAC

[Giorgio Zavarise]

Dear Lyx People,

I have to import in lyx a latex file that contains a lot of user 
commands, and it seems that there is no way to do it. I would like to 
ask a couple of suggestions:
1) how to explain to Relyx that there is a command file to read and to 
use
2) I read about the new program tex2lyx  is there any pre-cooked 
(executable) version for MAC?


Thanks for any help

Giorgio Zavarise

Re: 1.3.6 win continued

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:25 AM
Subject: 1.3.6 win continued



hello all
version 1.3.6 win is slower at startup, and its window position and size
at exit is still not memorized. can this be fixed? - would be great!
all in all, the installation took more time, with all the add-ons, than 
before...

thanks for the continuous effort and for the great program,
marco (zurich, switzerland)


Just so there is a balance of views on the list...

I am not sure I agree with this (except the part about window position and 
size). I find that Lyx starts almost instantaniously now whereas before it 
took a noticeable amount of time.


As for installation time, well granted you have to install Python  and 
MinSys (and Perl if you want to use ReLyx) but apart from that you don't 
have any additional install components and they both install rapidly. They 
also mean you don't have to faff about getting new versions of sed.exe, 
writing little command files to do things and then finally getting a working 
version of Lyx.


I would say efficiency wise the new version is far superior, but then I am 
on a 100Mbps connection so downloading is hardly a chore.


Geoff





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Telefax +41-44-391-3779
Mobilfon +41-76-335-3705

Re: tex2lyx for MAC

[Angus Leeming]

Giorgio Zavarise wrote:

Dear Lyx People,

I have to import in lyx a latex file that contains a lot of user 
commands, and it seems that there is no way to do it. I would like to 
ask a couple of suggestions:

1) how to explain to Relyx that there is a command file to read and to use
2) I read about the new program tex2lyx  is there any pre-cooked 
(executable) version for MAC?


Thanks for any help

Giorgio Zavarise


Find some info on tex2lyx here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/LaTeX/LatexToLyx

In this thread:
   http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/23281
and in a private mail to me, Stefano Franchi s.franchi AT aukland.ac.uk 
was going to have a go at compiling tex2lyx for the mac. Maybe you could 
drop him a line.


If you succeed in compiling it, please shove it on the wiki.

Angus

Re: Heretical question?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Juergen == Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Juergen Angus Leeming wrote:
 Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/

Juergen or (if you're on win)
Juergen http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/microimp/

I did not know this one.

I guess there is also BaKoMa YeX Word:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/bakoma/

JMarc

Re: Heretical question?

[Herbert Voss]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

Angus Leeming wrote:


Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/



or (if you're on win) 
http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/microimp/


works also with wine under *nix and has an own homepage and
is a _real_ wysiwyg TeX

http://www.microimp.com

Herbert

multiple (extra) sub-menus in document's Navigate drop-down menu (1.3.5)

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Hi all,

[Sending this again as it gathered no responses before -- or wasn't 
delivered.]

I have a minor but annoying problem in LyX 1.3.5 (Linux)...

Under the Navigate menu one can see all six chapters of the book. 
Choosing one opens a sub-menu which lists the chapter title and all the 
sections it contains (which are all Subsubsections*). This works 
fine... except for two chapters.

If you select one of these two chapters you will get a sub-menu with 
just the chapter name, then another sub-menu with just the chapter 
name, and finally a third sub-menu with the full contents of the 
chapter as expected.

Why am I getting these extra menus just in these two chapters? The only 
thing they might have in common is that they were pasted into the 
master document from other LyX documents.

I'ved looked at the LyX code (I assume the important element is 
\layout ... but see absolutely no difference between any of the 
chapters and neither \layout Section nor \layout Subsection appear 
anywhere in the code. How does LyX build this Navigation menu and what 
does it see that I can't?

Thanks in advance guys (and gals??),

Kevin


* - Why Subsubsection? Because it was a quick and easy way to reduce the 
heading size for these sections and also eliminate section numbering 
while keeping them in the TOC. And it seemed to work just fine, until 
aforesaid problem arose.)

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: multiple (extra) sub-menus in document's Navigate drop-down menu (1.3.5)

[Angus Leeming]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:
 Under the Navigate menu one can see all six chapters of the book.
 Choosing one opens a sub-menu which lists the chapter title and all the
 sections it contains (which are all Subsubsections*). This works
 fine... except for two chapters.

 * - Why Subsubsection? Because it was a quick and easy way to reduce the
 heading size for these sections and also eliminate section numbering
 while keeping them in the TOC. And it seemed to work just fine, until
 aforesaid problem arose.)

You've answered the question yourself. The code assumes a natural hierarchy
Chapter-Section-SubSection-SubsubSection. You're just describing the
fact that your Section and SubSection menus are empty because you're
subverting WYSIWYM to give yourself instant visual satisfaction.

LyX is designed to give you a clean logical markup of your document. You're
subverting that aim.

If you want to change the visual markup of a Section then that is what you
should do. There are certainly experts on this list who will help you do
so. Same goes with the display of a section in the TOC without a section
number.

-- 
Angus

Re: Heretical question?

[samar j. singh]

On Thursday 21 July 2005 06:59, Herbert Voss wrote:
 Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
  Angus Leeming wrote:
 Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/
 
  or (if you're on win)
  http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/microimp/

 works also with wine under *nix and has an own homepage and
 is a _real_ wysiwyg TeX

 http://www.microimp.com

 Herbert

Angus and Herbert, Thanks for that intro to texmacs though I dont see myself 
using it for a wysiwyg wordprocessor. Indeed one of the great things I see 
about Lyx is the assurance that I have that things will look right without my 
wasting my writing and thinking time on that. However, it did fill a 
different void as I was intrigued to see that it allowed import of html and 
export of latex to allow an effective conversion from word to Lyx.

Have tried this out with one document which I converted from Word to html 
using OpenOffice and then imported into texmacs and exported into latex and 
then imported into Lyx.  I found some valuable features which make me think 
this is the best way I have seen of getting a word document into lyx

1. The graphic appeared in the lyx document but with some ERT   around it 
which was easily dispensed with
2. The sections and subsections  which appeared in Word as 5.1) were not 
entered as subsections but did appear with appropriate bold text and were 
correctly represented.
3. The title did not appear as a title but as a subsection which had been 
renewed in the preamble and therefore had to be removed
4. The itemised elements were identically replicated but using the right 
mixture of itemize and enumerate and  indenting
5. It took me about 3 minutes to do all the changes to make it into a 
respectable pdf file from Lyx.

I dont know how general these observations are, having been made on the basis 
of one conversion,  but there certainly seems to be a case for looking into 
it.

samar

Re: 1.3.6 win continued

[treefox]

thanks - as startup takes much longer now on my machine than 1.3.5, im will
have to check the firewall* etc. settings.
marco
* i might have disabled activeperl from acting as a server, though, if this
is relevant.

-- Original-Nachricht --
From: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: 1.3.6 win continued
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:32:52 +0100


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:25 AM
Subject: 1.3.6 win continued


 hello all
 version 1.3.6 win is slower at startup, and its window position and size
 at exit is still not memorized. can this be fixed? - would be great!
 all in all, the installation took more time, with all the add-ons, than

 before...
 thanks for the continuous effort and for the great program,
 marco (zurich, switzerland)

Just so there is a balance of views on the list...

I am not sure I agree with this (except the part about window position and

size). I find that Lyx starts almost instantaniously now whereas before
it

took a noticeable amount of time.

As for installation time, well granted you have to install Python  and 
MinSys (and Perl if you want to use ReLyx) but apart from that you don't

have any additional install components and they both install rapidly. They

also mean you don't have to faff about getting new versions of sed.exe,

writing little command files to do things and then finally getting a working

version of Lyx.

I would say efficiency wise the new version is far superior, but then I
am

on a 100Mbps connection so downloading is hardly a chore.

Geoff




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Lyx mac problem please Help

[A Soufi, Biochemistry]

Hi, Guys I Installed Lyx 1.3.6 on MacOSX. and teTex.
when i launch Lyx the first time after installation, I see all the output 
option from the view menu, but none of them seem to do anything.
then I reconfigure Lyx under Edit menu, restart Lyx and it comes up with 
the error of. The document class unavailable, I checked the layout of 
document and none of the document classes are available anymore?
I tried to set the output file format viewers in the preferences but none 
of the output options is available anymore.
I checked Latex and it is working fine when I use TexShop viewer, or 
commanline.

Please can anybody help?


--
A Soufi, Biochemistry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 1.3.6 for Win

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

But the newest tex2lyx produces file format 243, and LyX 1.3.6 can only read
242. So the instructions on the wiki page should be modified:

You may have to replace LyX.py and lyx_1_4.py of LyX 1.3.6 with the
versions from here:
http://www.lyx.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lyx-devel/lib/lyx2lyx/


Jean-Pierre, it would be nice if you could do that and maaybe add some more
details. All files of lyx2lyx except lyx2lyx itself can be replaced with
their 1.4 counterpart without problems.

Both the Win tex2lyx bundle and the Solaris tex2lyx bundle provide 241 format,
so that copying the binary is enough.


Yes. But the syntax of the 1.4 layout files is changed. For example I could
not use beamer.layout with 1.4 but had to make some modifications. I'll
attach a diff so you can see the differences.

Right, I had to tex2lyx in the bundle after copying the 1.4 version to make it 
work,
otherwise I got this:
log
Ignoring options 'T1' of package fontenc.
LyX: Unknown TextClass tag `MaxCounter' [around line 15 of file c:\Program 
Fil\LyX-1.4\LyX\Resources\lyx\layouts\beamer.layout]
We failed to find the layout 'Standard' in the layout list. You MUST investiga!
Assertion triggered in const LyXLayout_ptr LyXTextClass::operator[](const 
stdstring) const by failing check false in file 
lyxtextclass.C:816

abnormal program termination
/log

What's surprising is that the same operation performed on the same file on 
Solaris works fine
(and the lyx file is correct as the Solaris version includes your patch for bug 
#1910).

Anyway beamer is particular as it is not part of the LyX bundle, so we're off 
the baseline distrib here.

A round trip on a technical report including many formulas and graphics seems 
OK on both ports
(but round trip means that the tex files are formally correct because created 
by lyx export,
so that's not really a real life example which would exhibit translation of 
much varied LaTeX constructs).

Finally calling tex2lyx from lyx does not seem appropriate on the Win port 
since the log remains hidden
(I just get a popup about conversion error w the above example).
Decompressing the tex2lyx bundle, updating the PATH and executing in a MinGW 
window is more informative.

Correct me there if an monitoring when executing from LyX is possible.


-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: 1.3.6 for Win

[Georg Baum]

Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote:

 Both the Win tex2lyx bundle and the Solaris tex2lyx bundle provide 241
 format, so that copying the binary is enough.

But that will change ;-)

 Ignoring options 'T1' of package fontenc.
 LyX: Unknown TextClass tag `MaxCounter' [around line 15 of file c:\Program
 Fil\LyX-1.4\LyX\Resources\lyx\layouts\beamer.layout] We failed to find the
 layout 'Standard' in the layout list. You MUST investiga! Assertion
 triggered in const LyXLayout_ptr LyXTextClass::operator[](const
 stdstring) const by failing check false in file lyxtextclass.C:816
 
 abnormal program termination
 /log
 
 What's surprising is that the same operation performed on the same file on
 Solaris works fine (and the lyx file is correct as the Solaris version
 includes your patch for bug #1910).

I don't know what happens exactly, but I don't care either because LyX 1.4
and tex2lyx are not supposed to read old .layout files (at least until now
- maybe we need a lay2layout converter).

 Anyway beamer is particular as it is not part of the LyX bundle, so we're
 off the baseline distrib here.

I chose it because it uses almost every layout file construct to demonstrate
the file format changes, but you can as well take any standard layout
file that uses things like MaxCounter, e.g. docbook.layout.

 Finally calling tex2lyx from lyx does not seem appropriate on the Win port
 since the log remains hidden (I just get a popup about conversion error w
 the above example). Decompressing the tex2lyx bundle, updating the PATH
 and executing in a MinGW window is more informative.
 
 Correct me there if an monitoring when executing from LyX is possible.

You will see the output if you start LyX from a console window. This applies
to all converters and is identical on all platforms.


Georg

Re: tex2lyx for MAC

[Bennett Helm]

On Jul 21, 2005, at 6:32 AM, Giorgio Zavarise wrote:

2) I read about the new program tex2lyx  is there any pre-cooked 
(executable) version for MAC?


I've placed a version on the wiki. As Angus said, the wiki page on 
tex2lyx is: http://wiki.lyx.org/LaTeX/LatexToLyx, from which you can 
find a link to the Mac version. (The direct link to the Mac version is: 
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/MacOSX/tex2lyx.zip.)


Bennett

Re: Lyx mac problem please Help

[Georg Kö]

Am 21.07.2005 um 14:30 schrieb A Soufi, Biochemistry:



Hi, Guys I Installed Lyx 1.3.6 on MacOSX. and teTex.
when i launch Lyx the first time after installation, I see all the  
output option from the view menu, but none of them seem to do  
anything.
then I reconfigure Lyx under Edit menu, restart Lyx and it comes up  
with the error of. The document class unavailable, I checked the  
layout of document and none of the document classes are available  
anymore?
I tried to set the output file format viewers in the preferences  
but none of the output options is available anymore.
I checked Latex and it is working fine when I use TexShop viewer,  
or commanline.

Please can anybody help?


Have you used the new installer? (ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.3.6/ 
LyX-1.3.6-2Mac.dmg)


If not you will find the solution here: http://www.mail-archive.com/ 
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg40803.html


Georg

Re: Lyx mac problem please Help

[Bennett Helm]

On Jul 21, 2005, at 8:30 AM, A Soufi, Biochemistry wrote:



Hi, Guys I Installed Lyx 1.3.6 on MacOSX. and teTex.
when i launch Lyx the first time after installation, I see all the  
output option from the view menu, but none of them seem to do  
anything.
then I reconfigure Lyx under Edit menu, restart Lyx and it comes up  
with the error of. The document class unavailable, I checked the  
layout of document and none of the document classes are available  
anymore?
I tried to set the output file format viewers in the preferences but  
none of the output options is available anymore.
I checked Latex and it is working fine when I use TexShop viewer, or  
commanline.

Please can anybody help?


A new version of LyX/Mac has been posted which should solve the problem  
for new installations.


If you are upgrading from an earlier version of LyX/Mac (and you have  
run the old installer script previously), the fix is to edit your  
preferences as follows: in Preferences  Paths  PATH Prefix, enter  
/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin- 
current:/usr/X11R6/bin:/sw/bin:/opt/local/teTeX/bin (without the  
quotes). You'll then need to do Edit  Reconfigure, restart LyX, do  
Edit  Reconfigure again, restart LyX, and all should be well.


Sorry about this, but do let us know if you continue to have problems.

Bennett

Re: 1.3.6 for Win

[Jose' Matos]

On Thursday 21 July 2005 14:12, Georg Baum wrote:
 I don't know what happens exactly, but I don't care either because LyX
 1.4 and tex2lyx are not supposed to read old .layout files (at least
 until now - maybe we need a lay2layout converter).

  This can be done easily. I will see what I can do. :-)

  I mean another python converter, of course. ;-)
-- 
José Abílio

Re: tex2lyx for MAC

[Angus Leeming]

Bennett Helm wrote:
 I've placed a version on the wiki. As Angus said, the wiki page on
 tex2lyx is: http://wiki.lyx.org/LaTeX/LatexToLyx, from which you can
 find a link to the Mac version. (The direct link to the Mac version is:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/MacOSX/tex2lyx.zip.)
 
 Bennett

Bennett, this is just the executable. You'll need a bunch of support stuff
too (layout files, lyx2lyx to go from format 243 back to 221).

If you grab the make_tex2lyx_dist.sh script from
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LaTeX/tex2lyx then everything should be done
automatically.

-- 
Angus

Re: multiple (extra) sub-menus in document's Navigate drop-down menu (1.3.5)

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Hi Angus,

You write:
 You've answered the question yourself. The code assumes a natural
 hierarchy Chapter-Section-SubSection-SubsubSection. You're just
 describing the fact that your Section and SubSection menus are empty
 because you're subverting WYSIWYM to give yourself instant visual
 satisfaction.

But LyX is working inconsistently then, because for four of the seven 
chapters this worked just fine -- or failed, if you wish, if you 
reverse the logic. I.e. four chapters do _not_ reflect the true 
hierarchy (two empty levels) and three chapters do.

The only reason I went down this road is because it worked for the first 
four chapters. (Which apparently it should not have -- i.e. there's a 
bug there.) What is frustrating is that I see no difference at all in 
the mark-up and therefore see no reason that one chapter should display 
differently than another in the Navigation menu. :-(

 If you want to change the visual markup of a Section then that is
 what you should do. There are certainly experts on this list who will
 help you do so. Same goes with the display of a section in the TOC
 without a section number.

No section is no problem, and I believe that I can adjust font size of 
the sections using the information that comes with the particular book 
class (but of course I have other things that I could be doing 
instead).

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tiros-Translations

Re: Heretical question?

[Paul A. Rubin]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Juergen == Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Juergen Angus Leeming wrote:


Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/



Juergen or (if you're on win)
Juergen http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/microimp/

I did not know this one.

I guess there is also BaKoMa YeX Word:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/bakoma/

JMarc

Can anyone summarize pros/cons of the various options listed in this 
thread?  You're all using (and most are actively developing) LyX, so I 
assume you see some advantages to LyX, right?


Paul

Re: multiple (extra) sub-menus in document's Navigate drop-down menu (1.3.5)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Kevin == Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Kevin But LyX is working inconsistently then, because for four of the
Kevin seven chapters this worked just fine -- or failed, if you wish,
Kevin if you reverse the logic. I.e. four chapters do _not_ reflect
Kevin the true hierarchy (two empty levels) and three chapters do.

If you have a (small) file that demonstrate the problem, we can have a
look. 

Note that I have fixed the behaviour you describe in 1.4.0cvs, because
this can happen also for some 'normal' uses (article with parts).

 If you want to change the visual markup of a Section then that is
 what you should do. There are certainly experts on this list who
 will help you do so. Same goes with the display of a section in the
 TOC without a section number.

Kevin No section is no problem, and I believe that I can adjust font
Kevin size of the sections using the information that comes with the
Kevin particular book class (but of course I have other things that I
Kevin could be doing instead).

As far as numbering is concerned, just go to LayoutDocumentNumbering
and adjust the section slider to fit your needs.

JMarc

Re: 1.3.6 for Win

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote:

 Both the Win tex2lyx bundle and the Solaris tex2lyx bundle provide 241
 format, so that copying the binary is enough.

But that will change ;-)

[..]
 What's surprising is that the same operation performed on the same file on
 Solaris works fine (and the lyx file is correct as the Solaris version
 includes your patch for bug #1910).

I don't know what happens exactly, but I don't care either because LyX 1.4
and tex2lyx are not supposed to read old .layout files (at least until now
- maybe we need a lay2layout converter).

 Finally calling tex2lyx from lyx does not seem appropriate on the Win port
 since the log remains hidden (I just get a popup about conversion error w
 the above example). Decompressing the tex2lyx bundle, updating the PATH
 and executing in a MinGW window is more informative.
 
 Correct me there if an monitoring when executing from LyX is possible.

You will see the output if you start LyX from a console window. This applies
to all converters and is identical on all platforms.

Well it seems that it's prematurate to merge the tex2lyx bundle tree
with the standard 1.3.6 LyX tree.

Maybe the make_tex2lyx_dist.sh could reflect this by bundling in LyX-1.4
instead of LyX ? Decompression in Program Files would be straightforward and 
flawless.
Respecting a parallel standard install of LyX and LyX-1.4 would also allow 
reference
to Lyx-1.4 by LyX (kind of Sarge/Etch distribution :-)

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Lyx mac problem solved :-)

[A Soufi, Biochemistry]

hi, it's looks that it's working fine now when I set the path as you 
suggested.

many thanks.


--On Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:38 pm +0200 Georg Kö [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:




Am 21.07.2005 um 14:30 schrieb A Soufi, Biochemistry:



Hi, Guys I Installed Lyx 1.3.6 on MacOSX. and teTex.
when i launch Lyx the first time after installation, I see all the
output option from the view menu, but none of them seem to do
anything.
then I reconfigure Lyx under Edit menu, restart Lyx and it comes up
with the error of. The document class unavailable, I checked the
layout of document and none of the document classes are available
anymore?
I tried to set the output file format viewers in the preferences
but none of the output options is available anymore.
I checked Latex and it is working fine when I use TexShop viewer,
or commanline.
Please can anybody help?


Have you used the new installer? (ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.3.6/
LyX-1.3.6-2Mac.dmg)

If not you will find the solution here: http://www.mail-archive.com/
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg40803.html

Georg




--
A Soufi, Biochemistry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Heretical question?

[Mark Carroll]

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Can anyone summarize pros/cons of the various options listed in this 
 thread?  You're all using (and most are actively developing) LyX, so I 
 assume you see some advantages to LyX, right?

I like it as a LaTeX front-end with a much shallower learning curve. I
like LaTeX because it does a good job of figuring out the large-scale
typesetting (floats and things). I don't want to manually do typesetting
in a case-specific manner because whenever I modify the document I then
end up having to re-typeset it.

-- Mark

Re: tex2lyx for MAC

[Bennett Helm]

On Jul 21, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Angus Leeming wrote:


Bennett Helm wrote:

I've placed a version on the wiki. As Angus said, the wiki page on
tex2lyx is: http://wiki.lyx.org/LaTeX/LatexToLyx, from which you can
find a link to the Mac version. (The direct link to the Mac version 
is:

http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/MacOSX/tex2lyx.zip.)

Bennett


Bennett, this is just the executable. You'll need a bunch of support 
stuff

too (layout files, lyx2lyx to go from format 243 back to 221).

If you grab the make_tex2lyx_dist.sh script from
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LaTeX/tex2lyx then everything should be 
done

automatically.


Fixed ... and the wiki updated.

Bennett

Re: citations and references in multi document files

[Micha Feigin]

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:48:52 +0200
Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Micha Feigin wrote:
  references to
  other parts of the document have to be entered manually and I can only
  push
  citations from bibtex as they are not known to the local document and even
  then
  I can't control their format.
 
  Is there any solution to any of these problems?
 
 Workaround for citations: Copy the bibtex inset (they grey bibtex references 
 box) to each child format and put it into a note inset or a Comment 
 paragraph.
 

Thanks, I tried the note inset which didn't work, the comment paragraph works
great.

 References: there is a drop down box in the cross references dialog, where 
 you 
 can select any opened document.
 

Thanks, didn't notice that one. Solves that problem also.

 HTH,
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Re: citations and references in multi document files

[Micha Feigin]

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:40:08 +0200
Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Micha Feigin wrote:
 
  I just split my thesis into multiple documents as it became impossible to
  handle after the 80 page mark without folding (which AFAIK lyx doesn't
  support).
 
 Do you know View-Navigate?
 

I do, works great for medium documents, but from some point its still not
enough. I tried using a combination of bookmarks and View-Navigate, but I need
to move around a bit and I still keep losing my position.

Also, when splitting the files, using the preview is much faster and allows to
concentrate on a chapter at a time.

  Anyway, this works find except for references and citations. references to
  other parts of the document have to be entered manually and I can only
  push
  citations from bibtex as they are not known to the local document and even
  then
  I can't control their format.
  
  Is there any solution to any of these problems?
 
 Always open the child documents from the main document via the include
 button. This assumes that the bibtex database is included in the main
 document (you can trigger loading all included documents if you e.g. try to
 insert a citation in the main document).
 

Tried that, but at least with lyx 1.3.4 (the version currently in debian) this
doesn't work. References can be chosen from other open documents but the bibtex
entry in the master document isn't recognized.

The suggestion I got in the other email to put the bibtex entry into a comment
paragraph works great though.

 
 Georg
 
  
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Re: citations and references in multi document files

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Another way to do it is to 'compile' the main document first, eg by doing 
view dvi.


This effectively lets all Includes see all the other stuff such as biblios 
or sections in other includes for cross referencing.



- Original Message - 
From: Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: citations and references in multi document files



On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:40:08 +0200
Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Micha Feigin wrote:

 I just split my thesis into multiple documents as it became impossible 
 to

 handle after the 80 page mark without folding (which AFAIK lyx doesn't
 support).

Do you know View-Navigate?



I do, works great for medium documents, but from some point its still not
enough. I tried using a combination of bookmarks and View-Navigate, but I 
need

to move around a bit and I still keep losing my position.

Also, when splitting the files, using the preview is much faster and 
allows to

concentrate on a chapter at a time.

 Anyway, this works find except for references and citations. references 
 to

 other parts of the document have to be entered manually and I can only
 push
 citations from bibtex as they are not known to the local document and 
 even

 then
 I can't control their format.

 Is there any solution to any of these problems?

Always open the child documents from the main document via the include
button. This assumes that the bibtex database is included in the main
document (you can trigger loading all included documents if you e.g. try 
to

insert a citation in the main document).



Tried that, but at least with lyx 1.3.4 (the version currently in debian) 
this
doesn't work. References can be chosen from other open documents but the 
bibtex

entry in the master document isn't recognized.

The suggestion I got in the other email to put the bibtex entry into a 
comment

paragraph works great though.



Georg


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Mac installation problem

[Lenore Horner]

I thought I'd upgrade to the most recent version of LyX (from 1.3.3) on 
my iBook running 10.3.9.  I downloaded the binary, dragged the LyX icon 
to my Applications folder and then double clicked the LyX Installer 
icon whereupon I received the message: The operation could not be 
completed.  An unexpected error occurred (error code -10660).  Any 
suggestions?  A cursory trial of LyX shows that it runs and displays 
pdf output.  I'm rather surprised at that because it should be looking 
the wrong place for preferences I thought.   I didn't try editing a 
file.

Page Style Fancy Problem

[Roger McMurtrie]

I am using the document class book with page style fancy.
However, footnotes on Chapter pages don't appear when viewed.
My LaTeX book suggests that maybe I should use \pagestyle{fancyplain} which I 
tried putting in the preamble but this didn't work.
I imagine there's a simple solution but I can't find it.

Roger

Re: citations and references in multi document files

[Georg Baum]

Micha Feigin wrote:

> I just split my thesis into multiple documents as it became impossible to
> handle after the 80 page mark without folding (which AFAIK lyx doesn't
> support).

Do you know View->Navigate?

> Anyway, this works find except for references and citations. references to
> other parts of the document have to be entered manually and I can only
> push
> citations from bibtex as they are not known to the local document and even
> then
> I can't control their format.
> 
> Is there any solution to any of these problems?

Always open the child documents from the main document via the include
button. This assumes that the bibtex database is included in the main
document (you can trigger loading all included documents if you e.g. try to
insert a citation in the main document).


Georg

/dev/null

[sandro massidda]

I tried to configure lyx and I got this  problem, as in the README file

here is a very nasty bug in LyX 1.2.2 configure script: if you
configure as root and an error occurs during the configure step
(e.g. xforms not found), the the script will delete the /dev/null
device. This undoubtly leads to very bad effect, since /dev/null is a
very basic device in any unix system.

If you have been victim of this problem, please complain on i
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org to get information on how to
reconstruct it. 


can you help me?


--
Sandro Massidda
Dipartimento di Fisica
Universita' di Cagliari 
Cittadella Universitaria
S.P. Monserrato-Sestu Km 0.700  
I-09042 MONSERRATO (CA), Italy  
Tel +39 070  6754864 
Fax +39 070  510171

Re: first impressions of 1.3.6

[Olivier Ripoll]

Olivier Ripoll wrote:


Will I get the old integral style back for iint and iiint if I delete 
the wasy fonts and related files ?
Can I correct this by editing the file called "symbol" in the share/lyx 
directory ? It contains a correspondance symbol -> font character


I just ask before I trash my local installation. :)


So I reply on myself because the information can be useful for others: I 
commented the 3 lines for oiint, iint and iiint in the "symbol" (or 
"symbols"?) file located in share/lyx/ directory. This way, I can get 
back the nice AMSmath double and triple integrals in LyX.


Olivier.

Re: /dev/null

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

>>Old-Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:25:45 +0200
>>From: sandro massidda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
>>Subject: /dev/null

>>can you help me?

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg35434.html

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Heretical question?

[Peter Rockett]

Thanks to all who responded to my requests for help to get LyX working. 
It's now functioning fine... but tex2lyx has problems translating my 
sample file so...


Having looked at Latex stuff a lot over the past few weeks as a Latex 
newbie, could I ask a (heretical!?) question? Why isn't LyX (or 
something else) a fully fledged WYSIWYG word processor? I can see the 
logic in how Donald Knuth designed things originally but I suspect a lot 
of that was guided by the fact that computers then were not capable of 
doing page rendering on the fly. But I don't think that restriction is 
true anymore. So is there any fundamental reason why Yap, say, couldn't 
be turned into a word processor... other then the obvious one of the 
effort involved? Just wondering because Latex is a significant learning 
curve and the tools are really rather rudimentary. WYSIWYG DTP programs 
exist!


Peter

Re: /dev/null

[Angus Leeming]

Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg35434.html

For those of you (like me) reading this throught the gmane news interface
which annoyingly encrypts stuff that it thinks are email addresses:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users%40lists.lyx.org/msg35434.html
or
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users AT lists.lyx.org/msg35434.html
Replace " AT " with "@" or, equivalently, "%40".

-- 
Angus

Re: Heretical question?

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Peter Rockett writes:
> Why isn't LyX (or
> something else) a fully fledged WYSIWYG word processor? 

Or a structured document processor, etc. Short answer: "if you build it, 
they'll come" -- i.e. someone has to have the time and inclination and 
skills to do this.

In the meantime, it remains what it is, a useful typesetting tool for 
books and large documents.

(my two cents -- better answers sure to follow)

-K
-- 
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Tiros-Translations

Re: Heretical question?

[Angus Leeming]

Peter Rockett wrote:

> tex2lyx has problems translating my sample file

Then post your sample so that tex2lyx can be improved.

> Why isn't LyX (or something else) a fully fledged WYSIWYG word processor?

Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/

-- 
Angus

Re: /dev/null

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "sandro" == sandro massidda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

sandro> I tried to configure lyx and I got this problem, as in the
sandro> README file

sandro> here is a very nasty bug in LyX 1.2.2 configure script: if you
sandro> configure as root and an error occurs during the configure
sandro> step (e.g. xforms not found), the the script will delete the
sandro> /dev/null device. This undoubtly leads to very bad effect,
sandro> since /dev/null is a very basic device in any unix system.

sandro> If you have been victim of this problem, please complain on i
sandro> lyx-users@lists.lyx.org to get information on how to
sandro> reconstruct it.

sandro> can you help me?

Hello,

I am very surprised that there are still people building 1.2.2 2 years
and a half later, but you can try the solution outlined here and in
the rest of the thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg50661.html

I am sorry for this problem.

JMarc

Re: Heretical question?

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Angus Leeming wrote:
> Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/

or (if you're on win) 
http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/microimp/

Jürgen

1.3.6 win continued

[treefox]

hello all
version 1.3.6 win is slower at startup, and its window position and size
at exit is still not memorized. can this be fixed? - would be great!
all in all, the installation took more time, with all the add-ons, than 
before...
thanks for the continuous effort and for the great program,
marco (zurich, switzerland)
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tex2lyx for MAC

[Giorgio Zavarise]

Dear Lyx People,

I have to import in lyx a latex file that contains a lot of user 
commands, and it seems that there is no way to do it. I would like to 
ask a couple of suggestions:
1) how to explain to Relyx that there is a command file to read and to 
use
2) I read about the new program tex2lyx  is there any pre-cooked 
(executable) version for MAC?


Thanks for any help

Giorgio Zavarise

Re: 1.3.6 win continued

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:25 AM
Subject: 1.3.6 win continued



hello all
version 1.3.6 win is slower at startup, and its window position and size
at exit is still not memorized. can this be fixed? - would be great!
all in all, the installation took more time, with all the add-ons, than 
before...

thanks for the continuous effort and for the great program,
marco (zurich, switzerland)


Just so there is a balance of views on the list...

I am not sure I agree with this (except the part about window position and 
size). I find that Lyx starts almost instantaniously now whereas before it 
took a noticeable amount of time.


As for installation time, well granted you have to install Python  and 
MinSys (and Perl if you want to use ReLyx) but apart from that you don't 
have any additional install components and they both install rapidly. They 
also mean you don't have to faff about getting new versions of sed.exe, 
writing little command files to do things and then finally getting a working 
version of Lyx.


I would say efficiency wise the new version is far superior, but then I am 
on a 100Mbps connection so downloading is hardly a chore.


Geoff





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Re: tex2lyx for MAC

[Angus Leeming]

Giorgio Zavarise wrote:

Dear Lyx People,

I have to import in lyx a latex file that contains a lot of user 
commands, and it seems that there is no way to do it. I would like to 
ask a couple of suggestions:

1) how to explain to Relyx that there is a command file to read and to use
2) I read about the new program tex2lyx  is there any pre-cooked 
(executable) version for MAC?


Thanks for any help

Giorgio Zavarise


Find some info on tex2lyx here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/LaTeX/LatexToLyx

In this thread:
   http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/23281
and in a private mail to me, Stefano Franchi  
was going to have a go at compiling tex2lyx for the mac. Maybe you could 
drop him a line.


If you succeed in compiling it, please shove it on the wiki.

Angus

Re: Heretical question?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Juergen" == Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Juergen> Angus Leeming wrote:
>> Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/

Juergen> or (if you're on win)
Juergen> http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/microimp/

I did not know this one.

I guess there is also BaKoMa YeX Word:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/bakoma/

JMarc

Re: Heretical question?

[Herbert Voss]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

Angus Leeming wrote:


Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/



or (if you're on win) 
http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/microimp/


works also with wine under *nix and has an own homepage and
is a _real_ wysiwyg TeX

http://www.microimp.com

Herbert

multiple (extra) sub-menus in document's Navigate drop-down menu (1.3.5)

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Hi all,

[Sending this again as it gathered no responses before -- or wasn't 
delivered.]

I have a minor but annoying problem in LyX 1.3.5 (Linux)...

Under the Navigate menu one can see all six chapters of the book. 
Choosing one opens a sub-menu which lists the chapter title and all the 
sections it contains (which are all "Subsubsections"*). This works 
fine... except for two chapters.

If you select one of these two chapters you will get a sub-menu with 
just the chapter name, then another sub-menu with just the chapter 
name, and finally a third sub-menu with the full contents of the 
chapter as expected.

Why am I getting these extra menus just in these two chapters? The only 
thing they might have in common is that they were pasted into the 
master document from other LyX documents.

I'ved looked at the LyX code (I assume the important element is 
"\layout ..." but see absolutely no difference between any of the 
chapters and neither "\layout Section" nor "\layout Subsection" appear 
anywhere in the code. How does LyX build this Navigation menu and what 
does it see that I can't?

Thanks in advance guys (and gals??),

Kevin


* - Why Subsubsection? Because it was a quick and easy way to reduce the 
heading size for these sections and also eliminate section numbering 
while keeping them in the TOC. And it seemed to work just fine, until 
aforesaid problem arose.)

-- 
Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tiros-Translations

Re: multiple (extra) sub-menus in document's Navigate drop-down menu (1.3.5)

[Angus Leeming]

Kevin Pfeiffer wrote:
> Under the Navigate menu one can see all six chapters of the book.
> Choosing one opens a sub-menu which lists the chapter title and all the
> sections it contains (which are all "Subsubsections"*). This works
> fine... except for two chapters.

> * - Why Subsubsection? Because it was a quick and easy way to reduce the
> heading size for these sections and also eliminate section numbering
> while keeping them in the TOC. And it seemed to work just fine, until
> aforesaid problem arose.)

You've answered the question yourself. The code assumes a natural hierarchy
Chapter->Section->SubSection->SubsubSection. You're just describing the
fact that your Section and SubSection menus are empty because you're
subverting WYSIWYM to give yourself instant visual satisfaction.

LyX is designed to give you a clean logical markup of your document. You're
subverting that aim.

If you want to change the visual markup of a Section then that is what you
should do. There are certainly experts on this list who will help you do
so. Same goes with the display of a section in the TOC without a section
number.

-- 
Angus

Re: Heretical question?

[samar j. singh]

On Thursday 21 July 2005 06:59, Herbert Voss wrote:
> Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> > Angus Leeming wrote:
> >>Perhaps you should check out http://www.texmacs.org/
> >
> > or (if you're on win)
> > http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/microimp/
>
> works also with wine under *nix and has an own homepage and
> is a _real_ wysiwyg TeX
>
> http://www.microimp.com
>
> Herbert

Angus and Herbert, Thanks for that intro to texmacs though I dont see myself 
using it for a wysiwyg wordprocessor. Indeed one of the great things I see 
about Lyx is the assurance that I have that things will look right without my 
wasting my writing and thinking time on that. However, it did fill a 
different void as I was intrigued to see that it allowed import of html and 
export of latex to allow an effective conversion from word to Lyx.

Have tried this out with one document which I converted from Word to html 
using OpenOffice and then imported into texmacs and exported into latex and 
then imported into Lyx.  I found some valuable features which make me think 
this is the best way I have seen of getting a word document into lyx

1. The graphic appeared in the lyx document but with some ERT   around it 
which was easily dispensed with
2. The sections and subsections  which appeared in Word as 5.1) were not 
entered as subsections but did appear with appropriate bold text and were 
correctly represented.
3. The title did not appear as a title but as a subsection which had been 
"renew"ed in the preamble and therefore had to be removed
4. The itemised elements were identically replicated but using the right 
mixture of itemize and enumerate and  indenting
5. It took me about 3 minutes to do all the changes to make it into a 
respectable pdf file from Lyx.

I dont know how general these observations are, having been made on the basis 
of one conversion,  but there certainly seems to be a case for looking into 
it.

samar

Re: 1.3.6 win continued

[treefox]

thanks - as startup takes much longer now on my machine than 1.3.5, im will
have to check the firewall* etc. settings.
marco
* i might have disabled activeperl from acting as a server, though, if this
is relevant.

>-- Original-Nachricht --
>From: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   
>Subject: Re: 1.3.6 win continued
>Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:32:52 +0100
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:25 AM
>Subject: 1.3.6 win continued
>
>
>> hello all
>> version 1.3.6 win is slower at startup, and its window position and size
>> at exit is still not memorized. can this be fixed? - would be great!
>> all in all, the installation took more time, with all the add-ons, than
>
>> before...
>> thanks for the continuous effort and for the great program,
>> marco (zurich, switzerland)
>
>Just so there is a balance of views on the list...
>
>I am not sure I agree with this (except the part about window position and
>
>size). I find that Lyx starts almost instantaniously now whereas before
it
>
>took a noticeable amount of time.
>
>As for installation time, well granted you have to install Python  and 
>MinSys (and Perl if you want to use ReLyx) but apart from that you don't
>
>have any additional install components and they both install rapidly. They
>
>also mean you don't have to faff about getting new versions of sed.exe,

>writing little command files to do things and then finally getting a working
>
>version of Lyx.
>
>I would say efficiency wise the new version is far superior, but then I
am
>
>on a 100Mbps connection so downloading is hardly a chore.
>
>Geoff
>
>
>
>
>> --
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>> CH-8702 Zollikon
>> Schweiz-Suisse-Switzerland
>> Telefon +41-44-391-3705
>> Telefax +41-44-391-3779
>> Mobilfon +41-76-335-3705
>>
>> 
>

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