Re: Lyx with R in wiki; why don't my lines wrap?

[Paul Smith]

On 1/29/06, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Some list members suggested I write this up, so I just inserted this
 in your Wiki:

 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxWithRThroughSweave

 When I browse that, the lines of text don't wrap, they just go on and
 on.

Paul,

It happens because you have spaces at the beginning of some lines. From

http://wiki.lyx.org/PmWiki/BasicEditing

one can read:

 «Lines that begin with
 a space are formatted exactly
 as typed, in a fixed-width font.

Note that very long lines of preformatted text can cause the whole
page to be wide.»

Regards,

Paul

page break top/bottom versus above/below

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Hi all,

I just noticed a terminology inconsistency, but I'm using 1.3.5, so I 
don't know if it's been caught already.

If you select Page Breaks (Above / Below) in the Paragraph Layout menu, 
you will get Page Break (top) or Page Break (bottom) as the result.

I prefer above/below (relative to where the line where the break is 
being inserted) and might even suggest that top/bottom is wrong, but 
either way, shouldn't it be consistent?

-Kevin


-- 
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Tiros-Translations

Re: Lyx with R in wiki; why don't my lines wrap?

[Uwe Stöhr]

Paul Johnson wrote:


Some list members suggested I write this up, so I just inserted this
in your Wiki:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxWithRThroughSweave


Many thanks. I changed the markup to make it better readable. Could you 
have a look at it and simplify the explanation when needed.

I also added some wiki pages concerning S, R, Sweave etc.

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx with R in wiki; why don't my lines wrap?

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Paul Johnson wrote:

 Some list members suggested I write this up, so I just inserted this
 in your Wiki:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxWithRThroughSweave
 
 When I browse that, the lines of text don't wrap, they just go on and
 on.  Do you see that too?

Ok, it seems you've already gotten help to fix it. Nice work btw!

/C

-- 
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keybinding for typewriter and bold?

[Gunnar]

What should I write in the bind file if I wish to make a marked text to have 
typewriter style and bold letters at the same time?

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Yaron Y. Goland wrote:

 I wrote an article for my blog http://www.goland.org/lyx outlining  
 the various things I had to do in order to get LyX to the point where  
 it could generate decent HTML. I can't help but think that most of  
 the issues I ran into could be fairly easily solved in LyX itself but  
 such is the nature of open source, if you don't like it, fix it.
 
 Anyway, hopefully the article will help others have a slightly easier  
 learning curve than I have had.

Do you think it makes sense to make a copy of your article in the LyX 
wiki? (http://wiki.lyx.org)

/Christian


-- 
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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Martin A. Hansen]

i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
issues.


:o)


martin

On 29/01/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Yaron Y. Goland wrote:

  I wrote an article for my blog http://www.goland.org/lyx outlining
  the various things I had to do in order to get LyX to the point where
  it could generate decent HTML. I can't help but think that most of
  the issues I ran into could be fairly easily solved in LyX itself but
  such is the nature of open source, if you don't like it, fix it.
 
  Anyway, hopefully the article will help others have a slightly easier
  learning curve than I have had.

 Do you think it makes sense to make a copy of your article in the LyX
 wiki? (http://wiki.lyx.org)

 /Christian


 --
 Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44
 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
issues.


martin,

  I've not read the OP's blog so I cannot directly comment on specific issues
raised. However, I will share my initial reaction to reading the original
post: Why use a typesetting system designed for text-heavy printed documents
to produce HTML for Web pages?

  IMO, writing HTML is no different in purpose than writing code in other
programming languages such as C and Python. I believe that a text editor is
the appropriate tool for the task, not LyX or LaTeX. This reminds me of
experiences more than a decade ago when I had the misfortune to try to work
with people who insisted on using a spreadsheet as a data repository and
reporting tool when what they needed was a fully relational database
management system.

  While I'm sure that others will strongly disagree with me, I think that LyX
is the wrong tool to prepare Web pages, just as I think it's the wrong tool
to do visually intensive page layout (use Scribus for that).

Rich

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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Rich Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

|While I'm sure that others will strongly disagree with me, I think that LyX
| is the wrong tool to prepare Web pages, just as I think it's the wrong tool
| to do visually intensive page layout (use Scribus for that).

I might agree with the arguemtents against web pages, but a lot of the
problems there are exactly the same when creating document types that
are hypertext capable: pdf for instance.

-- 
Lgb

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:


I might agree with the arguemtents against web pages, but a lot of the
problems there are exactly the same when creating document types that are
hypertext capable: pdf for instance.


Lars,

  I certainly appreciate this. I've not yet had a need to generate a pdf file
with working hypertext links. Perhaps someday I will. But, I can understand
how solving the problem would be beneficial to LyX and would allow users to
produce both .html and .pdf output.

Rich

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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Sven Schreiber]

Martin A. Hansen schrieb:
 i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
 issues.
 

As a devoted Lyx user I think he is very kind to Lyx when he says
Thankfully I haven't needed to copy anything more complex than a few
URLs so the limited copy/paste functionality is no big deal for me.
Imho it's a very big deal which scares off many potential new users. As
this is not addressed in 1.4.0 (or is it?), I kindly beg the developers
to make it top priority after the release of 1.4.0 -- in the spirit of
fixing basic issues first, before working on fancy new features.
(Although I guess it's less fun to be so reasonable...)

If other users are also concerned about the copypaste-situation, please
make your opinion visible on this list as well. (in a friendly way, of
course)

cheers,
sven

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Sven Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Martin A. Hansen schrieb:
|  i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
|  issues.
|  
| 
| As a devoted Lyx user I think he is very kind to Lyx when he says
| Thankfully I haven't needed to copy anything more complex than a few
| URLs so the limited copy/paste functionality is no big deal for me.
| Imho it's a very big deal which scares off many potential new users. As
| this is not addressed in 1.4.0 (or is it?), I kindly beg the developers
| to make it top priority after the release of 1.4.0 -- in the spirit of
| fixing basic issues first, before working on fancy new features.
| (Although I guess it's less fun to be so reasonable...)

Is it copy/paste that you really want or to be able to insert
larger/smaller pieces from other files/documents etc?

-- 
Lgb

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Sven Schreiber]

Lars Gullik Bjønnes schrieb:

 Is it copy/paste that you really want or to be able to insert
 larger/smaller pieces from other files/documents etc?
 

I'm not sure I understand your question; I use copy/paste a lot within
my lyx documents and it works great if that's what your aiming at
(except pasting does not replace the currently selected items as in most
other applications I'm used to -iirc-, but that's a different story). So
I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, Cutting  Pasting from
Non-LyX Windows.
Hope that was the answer to your question
-sven

Re: keybinding for typewriter and bold?

[Paul A. Rubin]

Gunnar wrote:
What should I write in the bind file if I wish to make a marked text to have 
typewriter style and bold letters at the same time?




To bind it to, for example, Control+a:

\bind C-a command-sequence font-code; font-bold;

/Paul

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Bo Peng]

 I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, Cutting  Pasting from
 Non-LyX Windows.

And another session of lyx. If you have two lyx windows open, you can
not paste selection from another window.

Bo

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Georg Baum]

Am Sonntag, 29. Januar 2006 20:18 schrieb Bo Peng:
  I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, Cutting  Pasting from
  Non-LyX Windows.
 
 And another session of lyx. If you have two lyx windows open, you can
 not paste selection from another window.

These two issues are related if you look from inside LyX: In both cases it 
is external data that comes from the OS clipboard. See 
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2138 and add comments if 
appropriate.


Georg

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Bo Peng wrote:


I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, Cutting  Pasting from
Non-LyX Windows.


And another session of lyx. If you have two lyx windows open, you can
not paste selection from another window.


Bo,

  I must be missing something here. I can copy from one LyX document to
another; it's the same window but different docs displayed in each. I copy
from text files and other GUI applications into an open LyX document using
the trackball.

  I've not tried invoking two instances of LyX, with a different document in
each, and transferring text from one to the other. Is this where the problem
shows up?

  Please know that I'm not challenging all of you, just trying to understand
under what circumstances you have difficulties.

Thanks,

Rich

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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Bo Peng]

I've not tried invoking two instances of LyX, with a different document in
 each, and transferring text from one to the other. Is this where the problem
 shows up?

This is the case. I sometimes open two lyx sessions (instances) when I
need to refer to another file, or another part of a long lyx file.
Copy/paste between two windows becomes impossible! I can not use
middle button, can not even use paste external selection. (If I have
to, I can paste to emacs, copy, and paste to the other lyx session. Of
course formula will be messed up.)

As a side note, it would be nice to be able to display two windows of
the same or different lyx files. This will make copy paste between two
files (or differnt parts of the same file) much easier. Opening two
main windows (like MS word does now) is OK provided that copy/paste
between these two windows is possible.

Bo

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Anders Ekberg]

Bo Peng
I've not tried invoking two instances of LyX, with a different  
document in


 each, and transferring text from one to the other. Is this where  
the problem

 shows up?

This is the case. I sometimes open two lyx sessions (instances) when I
need to refer to another file, or another part of a long lyx file.
Copy/paste between two windows becomes impossible! I can not use
middle button, can not even use paste external selection. (If I have
to, I can paste to emacs, copy, and paste to the other lyx session. Of
course formula will be messed up.)

As a side note, it would be nice to be able to display two windows of
the same or different lyx files. This will make copy paste between two
files (or differnt parts of the same file) much easier. Opening two
main windows (like MS word does now) is OK provided that copy/paste
between these two windows is possible.

Bo

Just for me to understand, which platforms are you talking about?
If I understand it correctly, the original observations were for  
MacOSX on which copying from other applications removes line/ 
paragraph breaks (which of course is a big drawback). However copying  
from one LyX-document to another works fine including equations (in  
Mac OSX there's only one LyX-session in one window opposite from most  
other Mac-applications) at least for me with 1.4pre3 on OSX 10.4.4.
Could the problem in the the Mac case stem from the copied text being  
sent through the operating system where (if I remeber correctly) Mac  
uses a different scheme for line-/paragraph-breaks than other platforms?


Anders Ekberg

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Bo Peng]

 Just for me to understand, which platforms are you talking about?

Linux, rhel4, lyx 1.3.7 and 1.4.0cvs, qt frontend.

 However copying
 from one LyX-document to another works fine including equations (in
 Mac

I meant copy/paste between two lyx instances.,

Bo

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Anders Ekberg]

On 29 jan 2006, at 21.42, Bo Peng wrote:


Just for me to understand, which platforms are you talking about?


Linux, rhel4, lyx 1.3.7 and 1.4.0cvs, qt frontend.


However copying
from one LyX-document to another works fine including equations (in
Mac


I meant copy/paste between two lyx instances.,

Bo
OK, if you try to copy from LyX1.3.6 to 1.4pre3 on Mac you get the  
same problem with messed up equations and line breaks (I don't think  
it is possible to start two parallel instances of 1.4pre3 on Mac, at  
least I don't know how to).

/Anders

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Sven Schreiber]

Georg Baum schrieb:
 Am Sonntag, 29. Januar 2006 20:18 schrieb Bo Peng:
 
I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, Cutting  Pasting from
Non-LyX Windows.

And another session of lyx. If you have two lyx windows open, you can
not paste selection from another window.
 
 
 These two issues are related if you look from inside LyX: In both cases it 
 is external data that comes from the OS clipboard. See 
 http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2138 and add comments if 
 appropriate.
 

So should bug 2138 be broadened to cover external copypaste from other
applications as well, or should a new bug be opened?

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Georg Baum]

Am Sonntag, 29. Januar 2006 21:55 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
 So should bug 2138 be broadened to cover external copypaste from other
 applications as well, or should a new bug be opened?

Do as you like :-) (if you open another bug, please link it as related to 
2138)


Georg

Lyx 1.37 for WindowsXP

[Marc Demers]

Hello,

Can you help? I want to get Lyx work on my laptop but I have to do this:

Note that some of our users report that the configure script fails to run and, 
as a result, LyX fails to start, reporting a missing textclass.lst file. To 
fix, run the command (using MSYS): 'sh configure' from the LyX/Resources/lyx 
directory. 

How in the world it must be done? I am not sure how to do it.

Best regards,

Marc

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX



On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
issues.


martin,

  I've not read the OP's blog so I cannot directly comment on specific 
issues

raised. However, I will share my initial reaction to reading the original
post: Why use a typesetting system designed for text-heavy printed 
documents

to produce HTML for Web pages?

  IMO, writing HTML is no different in purpose than writing code in other
programming languages such as C and Python. I believe that a text editor 
is

the appropriate tool for the task, not LyX or LaTeX. This reminds me of
experiences more than a decade ago when I had the misfortune to try to 
work

with people who insisted on using a spreadsheet as a data repository and
reporting tool when what they needed was a fully relational database
management system.

  While I'm sure that others will strongly disagree with me, I think that 
LyX
is the wrong tool to prepare Web pages, just as I think it's the wrong 
tool

to do visually intensive page layout (use Scribus for that).

Rich



Why use a typesetting system designed for text-heavy printed documents to 
produce HTML for Web pages?



SH: Actually, I think it is a fairly widely held opinion that
TeX-LaTeX-LyX are superb tools for the creation of
documents with mathematical and logical equations. I quote
the LyX Wiki below to support this point of view, but it
is a pov held outside the LyX community as well.

MS Word's equation editor used to be poor as well as there
was a problem with larger docs and Master Document. Even
WordPerfect's equation editor was better. Most technical
writers used costly FrameMaker, usually with Quadralay.

There were thousands of mathematical and logic books typeset
with TeX as mentioned below, but I imagine earlier they used
(X)Emacs. For papers and thesis projects, WinEdt and LyX
are far better tools (than FrameMaker for Unix/Windows) but
LyX is $49 +tax cheaper == free.

There are tens of thousands of webpages related to fractals,
Physics, Maths etc then display equations. The issue is not
editing a webpage in an editor, but creating or converting
webpages which contain mathematical equations and diagrams.
Not every homepage owner wants to load a pdf doc, they
want the option of using .html. If there is a typo it is easier
to fix in .html format than editing a .pdf format doc. And
apparently there is demand for conversion to .html from
customers because Word and Adobe Acrobat ($400+)
offer that feature. So TeX-LaTeX-LyX offer conversion
for free. LyX export as Latex and then htlatex foo(.tex)=html.

Latex2html is not easy to set up on Windows even though
experts like JP can do it. htlatex is easy, and it plays to LyX's
strength of equation typesetting. It took me 30 seconds to
convert xypic.tex and ten minutes to search and replace a
conversion error which produced LY X rather than LyX.
There were no ligature problems (I have seen such though).

H. Peter Gumm wrote a nice LyX tutorial, Using XYpic in LYX
http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~gumm/LyX/xypic/xypic.pdf
I will send the converted html file (.mht) to anybody who wants it.

Converting a LyX created math/logic/diagram to .html format
is where LyX shines and there is a demand and an appreciation.
Yoland's example didn't demonstrate LyX's major strength which
is when a person does want to create an html doc, _not_ with a
text editor or some specialized html program (poor at equations).
It turned out that Acrobat conversion of xypic.pdf to html failed
very miserably. The free htlatex method involving LyX for math
was nearly perfect.

Because Yoland's example used a text-heavy document in order
to produce html, doesn't weaken LyX's strength for 'math-heavy'
documents in order to produce html. I've seen *many* such pages.
Your criticism seemed to have a more general scope of use, rather
than applying specifically to Yoland's less than optimal leverage.
I didn't see much appreciation for LyX's math capability-html.

-
http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/FAQ

What is Tex

Donald E. Knuth, a mathematician and computer scientist,
developed the TeX typesetting system for the creation of
beautiful books--and especially for books that contain a
lot of mathematics. His brilliant work was a resounding
success, and some variant of TeX is now used by most
professional mathematicians. If you pick a random mathematics
book published in the last five years, the chances are good
that it was formatted with TeX.

What is LaTeX

Leslie Lamport created LaTeX as a structured, high-level
interface to TeX. Technically, LaTeX is a large macro
package that loads on top of TeX. ... In particular, the
American Mathematical Society has sponsored the development

Re: Lyx 1.37 for WindowsXP

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Marc Demers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 1:07 PM
Subject: Lyx 1.37 for WindowsXP


Hello,

Can you help? I want to get Lyx work on my laptop but I have to do this:

Note that some of our users report that the configure script fails to run 
and, as a result, LyX fails to start, reporting a missing textclass.lst 
file. To fix, run the command (using MSYS): 'sh configure' from the 
LyX/Resources/lyx directory.


How in the world it must be done? I am not sure how to do it.

Best regards,

Marc

Msys has a tool called sh.exe which if you used the default
install can be found in C:\Msys\1.0\bin\sh.exe

You should have Msys installed because it is part of the LyX
helper programs installation suite. One way to start sh.exe is to
go to Windows -Start -Mingw -Msys - and click on Msys
This should pop up the Msys command prompt window.

You want to navigate to the folder where the file configure
is located. If you installed LyX to C:\Lyx the command typed
from the Msys prompt would be: cd /c/LyX/Resources/lyx enter
Then you would type at the prompt: sh configure enter

Suppose instead you installed LyX to program files; equivalently
Start Msys as before.
Type from the command prompt:
cd /c enter
cd /program files enter {SH: with the quotes}
cd /LyX  enter
cd /Resources enter
cd /lyx enter
Then you would type at the prompt: sh configure enter

This should start a process that may last a couple of minutes
but after that LyX should work OK, as long as all the helper
programs have been installed. You can find additional info
about helper programs at: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137

Regards,
Stephen

kio_http

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Prozess Aufruf des Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von kio_http
 lässt sich nicht starten

Passiert beim Aufruf einer Internetseite von einer Mail aus und auch beim 
hineinpasten der Adresse in den Konqueror: was tut man in so einem Fall?

Wolfgang 

Re: kio_http

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Sonntag, 29. Januar 2006 22:54 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 Prozess Aufruf des Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
 klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von kio_http
  lässt sich nicht starten

 Passiert beim Aufruf einer Internetseite von einer Mail aus und auch beim
 hineinpasten der Adresse in den Konqueror: was tut man in so einem Fall?

 Wolfgang

Nachtrag: 
Von der Konsole:
kmail
[1] 8338
sh-3.00$ kmail: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Aufruf des Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls 
nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von kio_http
kmail:
kio (KRun): ERROR: 0x868fe60 ERROR (stat) : 3 Prozess Aufruf des 
Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von kio_http
 lässt sich nicht starten
kmail: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Aufruf des Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht 
möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von kio_http
kmail:
kio (KRun): ERROR: 0x869e9f8 ERROR (stat) : 3 Prozess Aufruf des 
Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von kio_http
 lässt sich nicht starten
kmail: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Aufruf des Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht 
möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von kio_http
kmail:
kio (KRun): ERROR: 0x851fde0 ERROR (stat) : 3 Prozess Aufruf des 
Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von kio_http
 lässt sich nicht starten
appending message to ~/dead.letter.tmp


-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325

Re: Lyx 1.37 for WindowsXP

[Uwe Stöhr]

Marc Demers wrote:


Can you help? I want to get Lyx work on my laptop but I have to do this:

Note that some of our users report that the configure script fails to run ...


Have you used this installer?:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

If not, deinstall LyX and reinstall it using this installer. I hope that 
the bug you mentioned doesn't appear.
If it does anyhow copy the file sh.exe from ~\LyX\bin to 
~\LyX\Resources\lyx\, then open a command line, change to 
~\LyX\Resources\lyx\, and use there the command


sh configure

Please report what happens on your system.

regards Uwe

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Bo Peng wrote:


This is the case. I sometimes open two lyx sessions (instances) when I need
to refer to another file, or another part of a long lyx file.


Bo,

  Thanks for the insight. I've just used two documents in the same window, or
the navigation menu to move around a single document. That's why I have not
encountered this issue before.

Rich

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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)   |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic
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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Anders Ekberg wrote:


Just for me to understand, which platforms are you talking about?


Anders,

   Oooo! Good point. My experiences are with linux only.

Rich

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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)   |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Lyx 1.37 for WindowsXP

[Uwe Stöhr]

Marc Demers wrote:


I have re-installed LyX using the Win Installer (BeliOS), version 1.0 but
nothing is working.


That is bad, but I need more details what exactly isn't working. Does 
LyX start? Do you get the missing textclass error message?


If the latter is the case, deinstall LyX and also delete the math fonts 
and the folder C:\Documents and Settings\username\Applications\LyX, the 
uninstaller will ask you for this.
(This avoids that you have a broken LyX installation due to rests of 
older LyX-versions.) Then reinstall LyX again with version 1.0 of the 
installer.


---

Try the following only when the method from above didn't help and you 
get the missing textclass error message:



I have copy the sh.exe file in the LyX/Resources/lyx
directory, but which command? MS Dos or MSYS?  From there can you help me
with a «step-by-step» approach? I am quite «basic» in this domain...


Here it comes:

1. Press Windows Start button, change there execute and type in

cmd

Press ENTER and you get a Windows console.

2. Now change to the directory ~\LyX\Resources\lyx\ (using the 
DOS-command cd)


3. Use now the command

sh configure

and you'll see LyX's configuration.

regards Uwe

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[John Pye]

Sven Schreiber wrote:

If other users are also concerned about the copypaste-situation, please
make your opinion visible on this list as well. (in a friendly way, of
course)
  

This has been an issue for me too. Other programs like ms office,
mozilla/thunderbird and openoffice do a great job of accepting different
text formats in external pasted text. As I understand it, it centers on
the source document making copied data available in a number of
different formats, and then target document chooses and inserts
whichever format of the data it can best utilise, for example bitmap,
text, html, rtf. MS Office and OpenOffice make this process transparent
with their 'Paste Special' commands (which should be the nomenclature
used by LyX, I think -- there shouldn't be a separate internal
clipboard, either, since 'ctrl-v' should *always* paste in the 'best
format' of whatever you just copied, regardless of where it came from).

For me the cut-and-paste text formatting features that would be most
useful would be paragraphs, bold, italic and typewriter styles, followed
by ordered/unordered lists and then tables and then images. This would
useful for cutting and pasting from web pages, wordprocessor documents
and PDFs.

The current 'paste as lines' and 'paste as paragraphs' are good for
pasting in plain text but become frustrating when you start having
bold/italics and other markup in your text.

BTW we are trying to use LyX after migrating some old FrameMaker files
(painfully) for the ASCEND project,
https://pse.cheme.cmu.edu/wiki/view/Ascend/DocumentingAscend

Cheers
JP

http://pye.dyndns.org/

Re: lyx 1.4.0 pre 3 not open my file

[Marcelo Acuÿfffff1a]

 I think that if you put, in Lyx 1.3.6 or 1.3.7, a List
 of Figures at the end of any file you get an error
 when you try to convert with lyx2lyx.

I have found the problem, see 
id=2245http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2245

Georg

  If you put List of Figures one or two lines before the end of
  file you can get other error message.
  Marcelo
  
 




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Windows LyX (1.3.7)

[Roy Keene]

All,
	I just tried to install LyX for Windows (Complete) and upon 
completion LyX would not start until I executed:
	copy c:\program files\lyx\resources\*.lst c:\documents and 
settings\owner\application data\LyX\


Also, when I ran Reconfigure the standard reconfigure occured, but never 
finished and when I re-ran LyX I got an error about not being able to open 
textclass.lst


Let me know if I can give any additional info.

Thanks,
Roy Keene

URLs on LyX

[Pupeno]

Hello,
Is it possible to have this behaviour 
http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=html/url on the LyX standard URLs ?
They look much nicer on editing.
Thanks.
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Re: Lyx with R in wiki; why don't my lines wrap?

[Paul Smith]

On 1/29/06, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Some list members suggested I write this up, so I just inserted this
 in your Wiki:

 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxWithRThroughSweave

 When I browse that, the lines of text don't wrap, they just go on and
 on.

Paul,

It happens because you have spaces at the beginning of some lines. From

http://wiki.lyx.org/PmWiki/BasicEditing

one can read:

 «Lines that begin with
 a space are formatted exactly
 as typed, in a fixed-width font.

Note that very long lines of preformatted text can cause the whole
page to be wide.»

Regards,

Paul

page break top/bottom versus above/below

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Hi all,

I just noticed a terminology inconsistency, but I'm using 1.3.5, so I 
don't know if it's been caught already.

If you select Page Breaks (Above / Below) in the Paragraph Layout menu, 
you will get Page Break (top) or Page Break (bottom) as the result.

I prefer above/below (relative to where the line where the break is 
being inserted) and might even suggest that top/bottom is wrong, but 
either way, shouldn't it be consistent?

-Kevin


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Re: Lyx with R in wiki; why don't my lines wrap?

[Uwe Stöhr]

Paul Johnson wrote:


Some list members suggested I write this up, so I just inserted this
in your Wiki:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxWithRThroughSweave


Many thanks. I changed the markup to make it better readable. Could you 
have a look at it and simplify the explanation when needed.

I also added some wiki pages concerning S, R, Sweave etc.

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx with R in wiki; why don't my lines wrap?

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Paul Johnson wrote:

 Some list members suggested I write this up, so I just inserted this
 in your Wiki:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxWithRThroughSweave
 
 When I browse that, the lines of text don't wrap, they just go on and
 on.  Do you see that too?

Ok, it seems you've already gotten help to fix it. Nice work btw!

/C

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keybinding for typewriter and bold?

[Gunnar]

What should I write in the bind file if I wish to make a marked text to have 
typewriter style and bold letters at the same time?

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Yaron Y. Goland wrote:

 I wrote an article for my blog http://www.goland.org/lyx outlining  
 the various things I had to do in order to get LyX to the point where  
 it could generate decent HTML. I can't help but think that most of  
 the issues I ran into could be fairly easily solved in LyX itself but  
 such is the nature of open source, if you don't like it, fix it.
 
 Anyway, hopefully the article will help others have a slightly easier  
 learning curve than I have had.

Do you think it makes sense to make a copy of your article in the LyX 
wiki? (http://wiki.lyx.org)

/Christian


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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Martin A. Hansen]

i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
issues.


:o)


martin

On 29/01/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Yaron Y. Goland wrote:

  I wrote an article for my blog http://www.goland.org/lyx outlining
  the various things I had to do in order to get LyX to the point where
  it could generate decent HTML. I can't help but think that most of
  the issues I ran into could be fairly easily solved in LyX itself but
  such is the nature of open source, if you don't like it, fix it.
 
  Anyway, hopefully the article will help others have a slightly easier
  learning curve than I have had.

 Do you think it makes sense to make a copy of your article in the LyX
 wiki? (http://wiki.lyx.org)

 /Christian


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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
issues.


martin,

  I've not read the OP's blog so I cannot directly comment on specific issues
raised. However, I will share my initial reaction to reading the original
post: Why use a typesetting system designed for text-heavy printed documents
to produce HTML for Web pages?

  IMO, writing HTML is no different in purpose than writing code in other
programming languages such as C and Python. I believe that a text editor is
the appropriate tool for the task, not LyX or LaTeX. This reminds me of
experiences more than a decade ago when I had the misfortune to try to work
with people who insisted on using a spreadsheet as a data repository and
reporting tool when what they needed was a fully relational database
management system.

  While I'm sure that others will strongly disagree with me, I think that LyX
is the wrong tool to prepare Web pages, just as I think it's the wrong tool
to do visually intensive page layout (use Scribus for that).

Rich

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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Rich Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

|While I'm sure that others will strongly disagree with me, I think that LyX
| is the wrong tool to prepare Web pages, just as I think it's the wrong tool
| to do visually intensive page layout (use Scribus for that).

I might agree with the arguemtents against web pages, but a lot of the
problems there are exactly the same when creating document types that
are hypertext capable: pdf for instance.

-- 
Lgb

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:


I might agree with the arguemtents against web pages, but a lot of the
problems there are exactly the same when creating document types that are
hypertext capable: pdf for instance.


Lars,

  I certainly appreciate this. I've not yet had a need to generate a pdf file
with working hypertext links. Perhaps someday I will. But, I can understand
how solving the problem would be beneficial to LyX and would allow users to
produce both .html and .pdf output.

Rich

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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Sven Schreiber]

Martin A. Hansen schrieb:
 i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
 issues.
 

As a devoted Lyx user I think he is very kind to Lyx when he says
Thankfully I haven't needed to copy anything more complex than a few
URLs so the limited copy/paste functionality is no big deal for me.
Imho it's a very big deal which scares off many potential new users. As
this is not addressed in 1.4.0 (or is it?), I kindly beg the developers
to make it top priority after the release of 1.4.0 -- in the spirit of
fixing basic issues first, before working on fancy new features.
(Although I guess it's less fun to be so reasonable...)

If other users are also concerned about the copypaste-situation, please
make your opinion visible on this list as well. (in a friendly way, of
course)

cheers,
sven

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Sven Schreiber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

| Martin A. Hansen schrieb:
|  i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
|  issues.
|  
| 
| As a devoted Lyx user I think he is very kind to Lyx when he says
| Thankfully I haven't needed to copy anything more complex than a few
| URLs so the limited copy/paste functionality is no big deal for me.
| Imho it's a very big deal which scares off many potential new users. As
| this is not addressed in 1.4.0 (or is it?), I kindly beg the developers
| to make it top priority after the release of 1.4.0 -- in the spirit of
| fixing basic issues first, before working on fancy new features.
| (Although I guess it's less fun to be so reasonable...)

Is it copy/paste that you really want or to be able to insert
larger/smaller pieces from other files/documents etc?

-- 
Lgb

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Sven Schreiber]

Lars Gullik Bjønnes schrieb:

 Is it copy/paste that you really want or to be able to insert
 larger/smaller pieces from other files/documents etc?
 

I'm not sure I understand your question; I use copy/paste a lot within
my lyx documents and it works great if that's what your aiming at
(except pasting does not replace the currently selected items as in most
other applications I'm used to -iirc-, but that's a different story). So
I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, Cutting  Pasting from
Non-LyX Windows.
Hope that was the answer to your question
-sven

Re: keybinding for typewriter and bold?

[Paul A. Rubin]

Gunnar wrote:
What should I write in the bind file if I wish to make a marked text to have 
typewriter style and bold letters at the same time?




To bind it to, for example, Control+a:

\bind C-a command-sequence font-code; font-bold;

/Paul

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Bo Peng]

 I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, Cutting  Pasting from
 Non-LyX Windows.

And another session of lyx. If you have two lyx windows open, you can
not paste selection from another window.

Bo

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Georg Baum]

Am Sonntag, 29. Januar 2006 20:18 schrieb Bo Peng:
  I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, Cutting  Pasting from
  Non-LyX Windows.
 
 And another session of lyx. If you have two lyx windows open, you can
 not paste selection from another window.

These two issues are related if you look from inside LyX: In both cases it 
is external data that comes from the OS clipboard. See 
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2138 and add comments if 
appropriate.


Georg

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Bo Peng wrote:


I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, Cutting  Pasting from
Non-LyX Windows.


And another session of lyx. If you have two lyx windows open, you can
not paste selection from another window.


Bo,

  I must be missing something here. I can copy from one LyX document to
another; it's the same window but different docs displayed in each. I copy
from text files and other GUI applications into an open LyX document using
the trackball.

  I've not tried invoking two instances of LyX, with a different document in
each, and transferring text from one to the other. Is this where the problem
shows up?

  Please know that I'm not challenging all of you, just trying to understand
under what circumstances you have difficulties.

Thanks,

Rich

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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Bo Peng]

I've not tried invoking two instances of LyX, with a different document in
 each, and transferring text from one to the other. Is this where the problem
 shows up?

This is the case. I sometimes open two lyx sessions (instances) when I
need to refer to another file, or another part of a long lyx file.
Copy/paste between two windows becomes impossible! I can not use
middle button, can not even use paste external selection. (If I have
to, I can paste to emacs, copy, and paste to the other lyx session. Of
course formula will be messed up.)

As a side note, it would be nice to be able to display two windows of
the same or different lyx files. This will make copy paste between two
files (or differnt parts of the same file) much easier. Opening two
main windows (like MS word does now) is OK provided that copy/paste
between these two windows is possible.

Bo

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Anders Ekberg]

Bo Peng
I've not tried invoking two instances of LyX, with a different  
document in


 each, and transferring text from one to the other. Is this where  
the problem

 shows up?

This is the case. I sometimes open two lyx sessions (instances) when I
need to refer to another file, or another part of a long lyx file.
Copy/paste between two windows becomes impossible! I can not use
middle button, can not even use paste external selection. (If I have
to, I can paste to emacs, copy, and paste to the other lyx session. Of
course formula will be messed up.)

As a side note, it would be nice to be able to display two windows of
the same or different lyx files. This will make copy paste between two
files (or differnt parts of the same file) much easier. Opening two
main windows (like MS word does now) is OK provided that copy/paste
between these two windows is possible.

Bo

Just for me to understand, which platforms are you talking about?
If I understand it correctly, the original observations were for  
MacOSX on which copying from other applications removes line/ 
paragraph breaks (which of course is a big drawback). However copying  
from one LyX-document to another works fine including equations (in  
Mac OSX there's only one LyX-session in one window opposite from most  
other Mac-applications) at least for me with 1.4pre3 on OSX 10.4.4.
Could the problem in the the Mac case stem from the copied text being  
sent through the operating system where (if I remeber correctly) Mac  
uses a different scheme for line-/paragraph-breaks than other platforms?


Anders Ekberg

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Bo Peng]

 Just for me to understand, which platforms are you talking about?

Linux, rhel4, lyx 1.3.7 and 1.4.0cvs, qt frontend.

 However copying
 from one LyX-document to another works fine including equations (in
 Mac

I meant copy/paste between two lyx instances.,

Bo

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Anders Ekberg]

On 29 jan 2006, at 21.42, Bo Peng wrote:


Just for me to understand, which platforms are you talking about?


Linux, rhel4, lyx 1.3.7 and 1.4.0cvs, qt frontend.


However copying
from one LyX-document to another works fine including equations (in
Mac


I meant copy/paste between two lyx instances.,

Bo
OK, if you try to copy from LyX1.3.6 to 1.4pre3 on Mac you get the  
same problem with messed up equations and line breaks (I don't think  
it is possible to start two parallel instances of 1.4pre3 on Mac, at  
least I don't know how to).

/Anders

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Sven Schreiber]

Georg Baum schrieb:
 Am Sonntag, 29. Januar 2006 20:18 schrieb Bo Peng:
 
I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, Cutting  Pasting from
Non-LyX Windows.

And another session of lyx. If you have two lyx windows open, you can
not paste selection from another window.
 
 
 These two issues are related if you look from inside LyX: In both cases it 
 is external data that comes from the OS clipboard. See 
 http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2138 and add comments if 
 appropriate.
 

So should bug 2138 be broadened to cover external copypaste from other
applications as well, or should a new bug be opened?

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Georg Baum]

Am Sonntag, 29. Januar 2006 21:55 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
 So should bug 2138 be broadened to cover external copypaste from other
 applications as well, or should a new bug be opened?

Do as you like :-) (if you open another bug, please link it as related to 
2138)


Georg

Lyx 1.37 for WindowsXP

[Marc Demers]

Hello,

Can you help? I want to get Lyx work on my laptop but I have to do this:

Note that some of our users report that the configure script fails to run and, 
as a result, LyX fails to start, reporting a missing textclass.lst file. To 
fix, run the command (using MSYS): 'sh configure' from the LyX/Resources/lyx 
directory. 

How in the world it must be done? I am not sure how to do it.

Best regards,

Marc

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX



On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
issues.


martin,

  I've not read the OP's blog so I cannot directly comment on specific 
issues

raised. However, I will share my initial reaction to reading the original
post: Why use a typesetting system designed for text-heavy printed 
documents

to produce HTML for Web pages?

  IMO, writing HTML is no different in purpose than writing code in other
programming languages such as C and Python. I believe that a text editor 
is

the appropriate tool for the task, not LyX or LaTeX. This reminds me of
experiences more than a decade ago when I had the misfortune to try to 
work

with people who insisted on using a spreadsheet as a data repository and
reporting tool when what they needed was a fully relational database
management system.

  While I'm sure that others will strongly disagree with me, I think that 
LyX
is the wrong tool to prepare Web pages, just as I think it's the wrong 
tool

to do visually intensive page layout (use Scribus for that).

Rich



Why use a typesetting system designed for text-heavy printed documents to 
produce HTML for Web pages?



SH: Actually, I think it is a fairly widely held opinion that
TeX-LaTeX-LyX are superb tools for the creation of
documents with mathematical and logical equations. I quote
the LyX Wiki below to support this point of view, but it
is a pov held outside the LyX community as well.

MS Word's equation editor used to be poor as well as there
was a problem with larger docs and Master Document. Even
WordPerfect's equation editor was better. Most technical
writers used costly FrameMaker, usually with Quadralay.

There were thousands of mathematical and logic books typeset
with TeX as mentioned below, but I imagine earlier they used
(X)Emacs. For papers and thesis projects, WinEdt and LyX
are far better tools (than FrameMaker for Unix/Windows) but
LyX is $49 +tax cheaper == free.

There are tens of thousands of webpages related to fractals,
Physics, Maths etc then display equations. The issue is not
editing a webpage in an editor, but creating or converting
webpages which contain mathematical equations and diagrams.
Not every homepage owner wants to load a pdf doc, they
want the option of using .html. If there is a typo it is easier
to fix in .html format than editing a .pdf format doc. And
apparently there is demand for conversion to .html from
customers because Word and Adobe Acrobat ($400+)
offer that feature. So TeX-LaTeX-LyX offer conversion
for free. LyX export as Latex and then htlatex foo(.tex)=html.

Latex2html is not easy to set up on Windows even though
experts like JP can do it. htlatex is easy, and it plays to LyX's
strength of equation typesetting. It took me 30 seconds to
convert xypic.tex and ten minutes to search and replace a
conversion error which produced LY X rather than LyX.
There were no ligature problems (I have seen such though).

H. Peter Gumm wrote a nice LyX tutorial, Using XYpic in LYX
http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~gumm/LyX/xypic/xypic.pdf
I will send the converted html file (.mht) to anybody who wants it.

Converting a LyX created math/logic/diagram to .html format
is where LyX shines and there is a demand and an appreciation.
Yoland's example didn't demonstrate LyX's major strength which
is when a person does want to create an html doc, _not_ with a
text editor or some specialized html program (poor at equations).
It turned out that Acrobat conversion of xypic.pdf to html failed
very miserably. The free htlatex method involving LyX for math
was nearly perfect.

Because Yoland's example used a text-heavy document in order
to produce html, doesn't weaken LyX's strength for 'math-heavy'
documents in order to produce html. I've seen *many* such pages.
Your criticism seemed to have a more general scope of use, rather
than applying specifically to Yoland's less than optimal leverage.
I didn't see much appreciation for LyX's math capability-html.

-
http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/FAQ

What is Tex

Donald E. Knuth, a mathematician and computer scientist,
developed the TeX typesetting system for the creation of
beautiful books--and especially for books that contain a
lot of mathematics. His brilliant work was a resounding
success, and some variant of TeX is now used by most
professional mathematicians. If you pick a random mathematics
book published in the last five years, the chances are good
that it was formatted with TeX.

What is LaTeX

Leslie Lamport created LaTeX as a structured, high-level
interface to TeX. Technically, LaTeX is a large macro
package that loads on top of TeX. ... In particular, the
American Mathematical Society has sponsored the development

Re: Lyx 1.37 for WindowsXP

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Marc Demers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 1:07 PM
Subject: Lyx 1.37 for WindowsXP


Hello,

Can you help? I want to get Lyx work on my laptop but I have to do this:

Note that some of our users report that the configure script fails to run 
and, as a result, LyX fails to start, reporting a missing textclass.lst 
file. To fix, run the command (using MSYS): 'sh configure' from the 
LyX/Resources/lyx directory.


How in the world it must be done? I am not sure how to do it.

Best regards,

Marc

Msys has a tool called sh.exe which if you used the default
install can be found in C:\Msys\1.0\bin\sh.exe

You should have Msys installed because it is part of the LyX
helper programs installation suite. One way to start sh.exe is to
go to Windows -Start -Mingw -Msys - and click on Msys
This should pop up the Msys command prompt window.

You want to navigate to the folder where the file configure
is located. If you installed LyX to C:\Lyx the command typed
from the Msys prompt would be: cd /c/LyX/Resources/lyx enter
Then you would type at the prompt: sh configure enter

Suppose instead you installed LyX to program files; equivalently
Start Msys as before.
Type from the command prompt:
cd /c enter
cd /program files enter {SH: with the quotes}
cd /LyX  enter
cd /Resources enter
cd /lyx enter
Then you would type at the prompt: sh configure enter

This should start a process that may last a couple of minutes
but after that LyX should work OK, as long as all the helper
programs have been installed. You can find additional info
about helper programs at: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137

Regards,
Stephen

kio_http

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Prozess Aufruf des Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von kio_http
 lässt sich nicht starten

Passiert beim Aufruf einer Internetseite von einer Mail aus und auch beim 
hineinpasten der Adresse in den Konqueror: was tut man in so einem Fall?

Wolfgang 

Re: kio_http

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Sonntag, 29. Januar 2006 22:54 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 Prozess Aufruf des Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
 klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von kio_http
  lässt sich nicht starten

 Passiert beim Aufruf einer Internetseite von einer Mail aus und auch beim
 hineinpasten der Adresse in den Konqueror: was tut man in so einem Fall?

 Wolfgang

Nachtrag: 
Von der Konsole:
kmail
[1] 8338
sh-3.00$ kmail: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Aufruf des Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls 
nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von kio_http
kmail:
kio (KRun): ERROR: 0x868fe60 ERROR (stat) : 3 Prozess Aufruf des 
Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von kio_http
 lässt sich nicht starten
kmail: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Aufruf des Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht 
möglich.
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kmail:
kio (KRun): ERROR: 0x869e9f8 ERROR (stat) : 3 Prozess Aufruf des 
Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von kio_http
 lässt sich nicht starten
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möglich.
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kmail:
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Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von kio_http
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Re: Lyx 1.37 for WindowsXP

[Uwe Stöhr]

Marc Demers wrote:


Can you help? I want to get Lyx work on my laptop but I have to do this:

Note that some of our users report that the configure script fails to run ...


Have you used this installer?:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller

If not, deinstall LyX and reinstall it using this installer. I hope that 
the bug you mentioned doesn't appear.
If it does anyhow copy the file sh.exe from ~\LyX\bin to 
~\LyX\Resources\lyx\, then open a command line, change to 
~\LyX\Resources\lyx\, and use there the command


sh configure

Please report what happens on your system.

regards Uwe

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Bo Peng wrote:


This is the case. I sometimes open two lyx sessions (instances) when I need
to refer to another file, or another part of a long lyx file.


Bo,

  Thanks for the insight. I've just used two documents in the same window, or
the navigation menu to move around a single document. That's why I have not
encountered this issue before.

Rich

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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Anders Ekberg wrote:


Just for me to understand, which platforms are you talking about?


Anders,

   Oooo! Good point. My experiences are with linux only.

Rich

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Re: Lyx 1.37 for WindowsXP

[Uwe Stöhr]

Marc Demers wrote:


I have re-installed LyX using the Win Installer (BeliOS), version 1.0 but
nothing is working.


That is bad, but I need more details what exactly isn't working. Does 
LyX start? Do you get the missing textclass error message?


If the latter is the case, deinstall LyX and also delete the math fonts 
and the folder C:\Documents and Settings\username\Applications\LyX, the 
uninstaller will ask you for this.
(This avoids that you have a broken LyX installation due to rests of 
older LyX-versions.) Then reinstall LyX again with version 1.0 of the 
installer.


---

Try the following only when the method from above didn't help and you 
get the missing textclass error message:



I have copy the sh.exe file in the LyX/Resources/lyx
directory, but which command? MS Dos or MSYS?  From there can you help me
with a «step-by-step» approach? I am quite «basic» in this domain...


Here it comes:

1. Press Windows Start button, change there execute and type in

cmd

Press ENTER and you get a Windows console.

2. Now change to the directory ~\LyX\Resources\lyx\ (using the 
DOS-command cd)


3. Use now the command

sh configure

and you'll see LyX's configuration.

regards Uwe

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[John Pye]

Sven Schreiber wrote:

If other users are also concerned about the copypaste-situation, please
make your opinion visible on this list as well. (in a friendly way, of
course)
  

This has been an issue for me too. Other programs like ms office,
mozilla/thunderbird and openoffice do a great job of accepting different
text formats in external pasted text. As I understand it, it centers on
the source document making copied data available in a number of
different formats, and then target document chooses and inserts
whichever format of the data it can best utilise, for example bitmap,
text, html, rtf. MS Office and OpenOffice make this process transparent
with their 'Paste Special' commands (which should be the nomenclature
used by LyX, I think -- there shouldn't be a separate internal
clipboard, either, since 'ctrl-v' should *always* paste in the 'best
format' of whatever you just copied, regardless of where it came from).

For me the cut-and-paste text formatting features that would be most
useful would be paragraphs, bold, italic and typewriter styles, followed
by ordered/unordered lists and then tables and then images. This would
useful for cutting and pasting from web pages, wordprocessor documents
and PDFs.

The current 'paste as lines' and 'paste as paragraphs' are good for
pasting in plain text but become frustrating when you start having
bold/italics and other markup in your text.

BTW we are trying to use LyX after migrating some old FrameMaker files
(painfully) for the ASCEND project,
https://pse.cheme.cmu.edu/wiki/view/Ascend/DocumentingAscend

Cheers
JP

http://pye.dyndns.org/

Re: lyx 1.4.0 pre 3 not open my file

[Marcelo Acuÿfffff1a]

 I think that if you put, in Lyx 1.3.6 or 1.3.7, a List
 of Figures at the end of any file you get an error
 when you try to convert with lyx2lyx.

I have found the problem, see 
id=2245http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2245

Georg

  If you put List of Figures one or two lines before the end of
  file you can get other error message.
  Marcelo
  
 




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Windows LyX (1.3.7)

[Roy Keene]

All,
	I just tried to install LyX for Windows (Complete) and upon 
completion LyX would not start until I executed:
	copy c:\program files\lyx\resources\*.lst c:\documents and 
settings\owner\application data\LyX\


Also, when I ran Reconfigure the standard reconfigure occured, but never 
finished and when I re-ran LyX I got an error about not being able to open 
textclass.lst


Let me know if I can give any additional info.

Thanks,
Roy Keene

URLs on LyX

[Pupeno]

Hello,
Is it possible to have this behaviour 
http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=html/url on the LyX standard URLs ?
They look much nicer on editing.
Thanks.
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Re: Lyx with R in wiki; why don't my lines wrap?

[Paul Smith]

On 1/29/06, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some list members suggested I write this up, so I just inserted this
> in your Wiki:
>
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxWithRThroughSweave
>
> When I browse that, the lines of text don't wrap, they just go on and
> on.

Paul,

It happens because you have spaces at the beginning of some lines. From

http://wiki.lyx.org/PmWiki/BasicEditing

one can read:

 «Lines that begin with
 a space are formatted exactly
 as typed, in a fixed-width font.

Note that very long lines of preformatted text can cause the whole
page to be wide.»

Regards,

Paul

page break top/bottom versus above/below

[Kevin Pfeiffer]

Hi all,

I just noticed a terminology inconsistency, but I'm using 1.3.5, so I 
don't know if it's been caught already.

If you select Page Breaks (Above / Below) in the Paragraph Layout menu, 
you will get "Page Break (top)" or "Page Break (bottom)" as the result.

I prefer above/below (relative to where the line where the break is 
being inserted) and might even suggest that top/bottom is wrong, but 
either way, shouldn't it be consistent?

-Kevin


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Re: Lyx with R in wiki; why don't my lines wrap?

[Uwe Stöhr]

Paul Johnson wrote:


Some list members suggested I write this up, so I just inserted this
in your Wiki:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxWithRThroughSweave


Many thanks. I changed the markup to make it better readable. Could you 
have a look at it and simplify the explanation when needed.

I also added some wiki pages concerning "S", "R", "Sweave" etc.

regards Uwe

Re: Lyx with R in wiki; why don't my lines wrap?

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Paul Johnson wrote:

> Some list members suggested I write this up, so I just inserted this
> in your Wiki:
> 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxWithRThroughSweave
> 
> When I browse that, the lines of text don't wrap, they just go on and
> on.  Do you see that too?

Ok, it seems you've already gotten help to fix it. Nice work btw!

/C

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keybinding for typewriter and bold?

[Gunnar]

What should I write in the bind file if I wish to make a marked text to have 
typewriter style and bold letters at the same time?

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Yaron Y. Goland wrote:

> I wrote an article for my blog  outlining  
> the various things I had to do in order to get LyX to the point where  
> it could generate decent HTML. I can't help but think that most of  
> the issues I ran into could be fairly easily solved in LyX itself but  
> such is the nature of open source, if you don't like it, fix it.
> 
> Anyway, hopefully the article will help others have a slightly easier  
> learning curve than I have had.

Do you think it makes sense to make a copy of your article in the LyX 
wiki? (http://wiki.lyx.org)

/Christian


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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Martin A. Hansen]

i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
issues.


:o)


martin

On 29/01/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Yaron Y. Goland wrote:
>
> > I wrote an article for my blog  outlining
> > the various things I had to do in order to get LyX to the point where
> > it could generate decent HTML. I can't help but think that most of
> > the issues I ran into could be fairly easily solved in LyX itself but
> > such is the nature of open source, if you don't like it, fix it.
> >
> > Anyway, hopefully the article will help others have a slightly easier
> > learning curve than I have had.
>
> Do you think it makes sense to make a copy of your article in the LyX
> wiki? (http://wiki.lyx.org)
>
> /Christian
>
>
> --
> Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44
> http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
>
>
>

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
issues.


martin,

  I've not read the OP's blog so I cannot directly comment on specific issues
raised. However, I will share my initial reaction to reading the original
post: Why use a typesetting system designed for text-heavy printed documents
to produce HTML for Web pages?

  IMO, writing HTML is no different in purpose than writing code in other
programming languages such as C and Python. I believe that a text editor is
the appropriate tool for the task, not LyX or LaTeX. This reminds me of
experiences more than a decade ago when I had the misfortune to try to work
with people who insisted on using a spreadsheet as a data repository and
reporting tool when what they needed was a fully relational database
management system.

  While I'm sure that others will strongly disagree with me, I think that LyX
is the wrong tool to prepare Web pages, just as I think it's the wrong tool
to do visually intensive page layout (use Scribus for that).

Rich

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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Rich Shepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

|While I'm sure that others will strongly disagree with me, I think that LyX
| is the wrong tool to prepare Web pages, just as I think it's the wrong tool
| to do visually intensive page layout (use Scribus for that).

I might agree with the arguemtents against web pages, but a lot of the
problems there are exactly the same when creating document types that
are hypertext capable: pdf for instance.

-- 
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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote:


I might agree with the arguemtents against web pages, but a lot of the
problems there are exactly the same when creating document types that are
hypertext capable: pdf for instance.


Lars,

  I certainly appreciate this. I've not yet had a need to generate a pdf file
with working hypertext links. Perhaps someday I will. But, I can understand
how solving the problem would be beneficial to LyX and would allow users to
produce both .html and .pdf output.

Rich

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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Sven Schreiber]

Martin A. Hansen schrieb:
> i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
> issues.
> 

As a devoted Lyx user I think he is very kind to Lyx when he says
"Thankfully I haven't needed to copy anything more complex than a few
URLs so the limited copy/paste functionality is no big deal for me."
Imho it's a very big deal which scares off many potential new users. As
this is not addressed in 1.4.0 (or is it?), I kindly beg the developers
to make it top priority after the release of 1.4.0 -- in the spirit of
fixing basic issues first, before working on fancy new features.
(Although I guess it's less fun to be so reasonable...)

If other users are also concerned about the copy, please
make your opinion visible on this list as well. (in a friendly way, of
course)

cheers,
sven

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Lars Gullik Bjønnes]

Sven Schreiber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

| Martin A. Hansen schrieb:
| > i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
| > issues.
| > 
| 
| As a devoted Lyx user I think he is very kind to Lyx when he says
| "Thankfully I haven't needed to copy anything more complex than a few
| URLs so the limited copy/paste functionality is no big deal for me."
| Imho it's a very big deal which scares off many potential new users. As
| this is not addressed in 1.4.0 (or is it?), I kindly beg the developers
| to make it top priority after the release of 1.4.0 -- in the spirit of
| fixing basic issues first, before working on fancy new features.
| (Although I guess it's less fun to be so reasonable...)

Is it copy/paste that you really want or to be able to insert
larger/smaller pieces from other files/documents etc?

-- 
Lgb

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Sven Schreiber]

Lars Gullik Bjønnes schrieb:

> Is it copy/paste that you really want or to be able to insert
> larger/smaller pieces from other files/documents etc?
> 

I'm not sure I understand your question; I use copy/paste a lot within
my lyx documents and it works great if that's what your aiming at
(except pasting does not replace the currently selected items as in most
other applications I'm used to -iirc-, but that's a different story). So
I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, "Cutting & Pasting from
Non-LyX Windows".
Hope that was the answer to your question
-sven

Re: keybinding for typewriter and bold?

[Paul A. Rubin]

Gunnar wrote:
What should I write in the bind file if I wish to make a marked text to have 
typewriter style and bold letters at the same time?




To bind it to, for example, Control+a:

\bind "C-a" "command-sequence font-code; font-bold;"

/Paul

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Bo Peng]

> I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, "Cutting & Pasting from
> Non-LyX Windows".

And another session of lyx. If you have two lyx windows open, you can
not paste selection from another window.

Bo

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Georg Baum]

Am Sonntag, 29. Januar 2006 20:18 schrieb Bo Peng:
> > I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, "Cutting & Pasting from
> > Non-LyX Windows".
> 
> And another session of lyx. If you have two lyx windows open, you can
> not paste selection from another window.

These two issues are related if you look from inside LyX: In both cases it 
is external data that comes from the OS clipboard. See 
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2138 and add comments if 
appropriate.


Georg

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Bo Peng wrote:


I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, "Cutting & Pasting from
Non-LyX Windows".


And another session of lyx. If you have two lyx windows open, you can
not paste selection from another window.


Bo,

  I must be missing something here. I can copy from one LyX document to
another; it's the same window but different docs displayed in each. I copy
from text files and other GUI applications into an open LyX document using
the trackball.

  I've not tried invoking two instances of LyX, with a different document in
each, and transferring text from one to the other. Is this where the problem
shows up?

  Please know that I'm not challenging all of you, just trying to understand
under what circumstances you have difficulties.

Thanks,

Rich

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Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Bo Peng]

>I've not tried invoking two instances of LyX, with a different document in
> each, and transferring text from one to the other. Is this where the problem
> shows up?

This is the case. I sometimes open two lyx sessions (instances) when I
need to refer to another file, or another part of a long lyx file.
Copy/paste between two windows becomes impossible! I can not use
middle button, can not even use paste external selection. (If I have
to, I can paste to emacs, copy, and paste to the other lyx session. Of
course formula will be messed up.)

As a side note, it would be nice to be able to display two windows of
the same or different lyx files. This will make copy paste between two
files (or differnt parts of the same file) much easier. Opening two
main windows (like MS word does now) is OK provided that copy/paste
between these two windows is possible.

Bo

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Anders Ekberg]

Bo Peng
>I've not tried invoking two instances of LyX, with a different  
document in


> each, and transferring text from one to the other. Is this where  
the problem

> shows up?

This is the case. I sometimes open two lyx sessions (instances) when I
need to refer to another file, or another part of a long lyx file.
Copy/paste between two windows becomes impossible! I can not use
middle button, can not even use paste external selection. (If I have
to, I can paste to emacs, copy, and paste to the other lyx session. Of
course formula will be messed up.)

As a side note, it would be nice to be able to display two windows of
the same or different lyx files. This will make copy paste between two
files (or differnt parts of the same file) much easier. Opening two
main windows (like MS word does now) is OK provided that copy/paste
between these two windows is possible.

Bo

Just for me to understand, which platforms are you talking about?
If I understand it correctly, the original observations were for  
MacOSX on which copying from other applications removes line/ 
paragraph breaks (which of course is a big drawback). However copying  
from one LyX-document to another works fine including equations (in  
Mac OSX there's only one LyX-session in one window opposite from most  
other Mac-applications) at least for me with 1.4pre3 on OSX 10.4.4.
Could the problem in the the Mac case stem from the copied text being  
sent through the operating system where (if I remeber correctly) Mac  
uses a different scheme for line-/paragraph-breaks than other platforms?


Anders Ekberg

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Bo Peng]

> Just for me to understand, which platforms are you talking about?

Linux, rhel4, lyx 1.3.7 and 1.4.0cvs, qt frontend.

> However copying
> from one LyX-document to another works fine including equations (in
> Mac

I meant copy/paste between two lyx instances.,

Bo

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Anders Ekberg]

On 29 jan 2006, at 21.42, Bo Peng wrote:


Just for me to understand, which platforms are you talking about?


Linux, rhel4, lyx 1.3.7 and 1.4.0cvs, qt frontend.


However copying
from one LyX-document to another works fine including equations (in
Mac


I meant copy/paste between two lyx instances.,

Bo
OK, if you try to copy from LyX1.3.6 to 1.4pre3 on Mac you get the  
same problem with messed up equations and line breaks (I don't think  
it is possible to start two parallel instances of 1.4pre3 on Mac, at  
least I don't know how to).

/Anders

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Sven Schreiber]

Georg Baum schrieb:
> Am Sonntag, 29. Januar 2006 20:18 schrieb Bo Peng:
> 
>>>I was talking about the same thing as Yaron, "Cutting & Pasting from
>>>Non-LyX Windows".
>>
>>And another session of lyx. If you have two lyx windows open, you can
>>not paste selection from another window.
> 
> 
> These two issues are related if you look from inside LyX: In both cases it 
> is external data that comes from the OS clipboard. See 
> http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2138 and add comments if 
> appropriate.
> 

So should bug 2138 be broadened to cover external copy from other
applications as well, or should a new bug be opened?

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Georg Baum]

Am Sonntag, 29. Januar 2006 21:55 schrieb Sven Schreiber:
> So should bug 2138 be broadened to cover external copy from other
> applications as well, or should a new bug be opened?

Do as you like :-) (if you open another bug, please link it as related to 
2138)


Georg

Lyx 1.37 for WindowsXP

[Marc Demers]

Hello,

Can you help? I want to get Lyx work on my laptop but I have to do this:

Note that some of our users report that the configure script fails to run and, 
as a result, LyX fails to start, reporting a missing textclass.lst file. To 
fix, run the command (using MSYS): 'sh configure' from the /Resources/lyx 
directory. 

How in the world it must be done? I am not sure how to do it.

Best regards,

Marc

Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Shepard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: A Newbie's Experience with LyX



On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i would love to hear the developers (and others) oppinion on the raised
issues.


martin,

  I've not read the OP's blog so I cannot directly comment on specific 
issues

raised. However, I will share my initial reaction to reading the original
post: Why use a typesetting system designed for text-heavy printed 
documents

to produce HTML for Web pages?

  IMO, writing HTML is no different in purpose than writing code in other
programming languages such as C and Python. I believe that a text editor 
is

the appropriate tool for the task, not LyX or LaTeX. This reminds me of
experiences more than a decade ago when I had the misfortune to try to 
work

with people who insisted on using a spreadsheet as a data repository and
reporting tool when what they needed was a fully relational database
management system.

  While I'm sure that others will strongly disagree with me, I think that 
LyX
is the wrong tool to prepare Web pages, just as I think it's the wrong 
tool

to do visually intensive page layout (use Scribus for that).

Rich



Why use a typesetting system designed for text-heavy printed documents to 
produce HTML for Web pages?



SH: Actually, I think it is a fairly widely held opinion that
TeX->LaTeX->LyX are superb tools for the creation of
documents with mathematical and logical equations. I quote
the LyX Wiki below to support this point of view, but it
is a pov held outside the LyX community as well.

MS Word's equation editor used to be poor as well as there
was a problem with larger docs and Master Document. Even
WordPerfect's equation editor was better. Most technical
writers used costly FrameMaker, usually with Quadralay.

There were thousands of mathematical and logic books typeset
with TeX as mentioned below, but I imagine earlier they used
(X)Emacs. For papers and thesis projects, WinEdt and LyX
are far better tools (than FrameMaker for Unix/Windows) but
LyX is $49 +tax cheaper == free.

There are tens of thousands of webpages related to fractals,
Physics, Maths etc then display equations. The issue is not
editing a webpage in an editor, but creating or converting
webpages which contain mathematical equations and diagrams.
Not every homepage owner wants to load a pdf doc, they
want the option of using .html. If there is a typo it is easier
to fix in .html format than editing a .pdf format doc. And
apparently there is demand for conversion to .html from
customers because Word and Adobe Acrobat ($400+)
offer that feature. So TeX->LaTeX->LyX offer conversion
for free. LyX export as Latex and then htlatex foo(.tex)=html.

Latex2html is not easy to set up on Windows even though
experts like JP can do it. htlatex is easy, and it plays to LyX's
strength of equation typesetting. It took me 30 seconds to
convert xypic.tex and ten minutes to search and replace a
conversion error which produced "LY X" rather than LyX.
There were no ligature problems (I have seen such though).

H. Peter Gumm wrote a nice LyX tutorial, "Using XYpic in LYX"
http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~gumm/LyX/xypic/xypic.pdf
I will send the converted html file (.mht) to anybody who wants it.

Converting a LyX created math/logic/diagram to .html format
is where LyX shines and there is a demand and an appreciation.
Yoland's example didn't demonstrate LyX's major strength which
is when a person does want to create an html doc, _not_ with a
text editor or some specialized html program (poor at equations).
It turned out that Acrobat conversion of xypic.pdf to html failed
very miserably. The free htlatex method involving LyX for math
was nearly perfect.

Because Yoland's example used a "text-heavy" document in order
to produce html, doesn't weaken LyX's strength for 'math-heavy'
documents in order to produce html. I've seen *many* such pages.
Your criticism seemed to have a more general scope of use, rather
than applying specifically to Yoland's less than optimal leverage.
I didn't see much appreciation for LyX's math capability->html.

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http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/FAQ

What is Tex

"Donald E. Knuth, a mathematician and computer scientist,
developed the TeX typesetting system "for the creation of
beautiful books--and especially for books that contain a
lot of mathematics." His brilliant work was a resounding
success, and some variant of TeX is now used by most
professional mathematicians. If you pick a random mathematics
book published in the last five years, the chances are good
that it was formatted with TeX.

What is LaTeX

Leslie Lamport created LaTeX as a structured, high-level
interface to TeX. Technically, LaTeX is a large macro
package that loads on top of TeX. ... In particular, the
American Mathematical Society has 

Re: Lyx 1.37 for WindowsXP

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: "Marc Demers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 1:07 PM
Subject: Lyx 1.37 for WindowsXP


Hello,

Can you help? I want to get Lyx work on my laptop but I have to do this:

Note that some of our users report that the configure script fails to run 
and, as a result, LyX fails to start, reporting a missing textclass.lst 
file. To fix, run the command (using MSYS): 'sh configure' from the 
/Resources/lyx directory.


How in the world it must be done? I am not sure how to do it.

Best regards,

Marc

Msys has a tool called sh.exe which if you used the default
install can be found in C:\Msys\1.0\bin\sh.exe

You should have Msys installed because it is part of the LyX
helper programs installation suite. One way to start sh.exe is to
go to Windows ->Start ->Mingw ->Msys -> and click on Msys
This should pop up the Msys command prompt window.

You want to navigate to the folder where the file "configure"
is located. If you installed LyX to C:\Lyx the command typed
from the Msys prompt would be: cd /c/LyX/Resources/lyx 
Then you would type at the prompt: sh configure 

Suppose instead you installed LyX to program files; equivalently
Start Msys as before.
Type from the command prompt:
cd /c 
cd /"program files"  {SH: with the quotes}
cd /LyX  
cd /Resources 
cd /lyx 
Then you would type at the prompt: sh configure 

This should start a process that may last a couple of minutes
but after that LyX should work OK, as long as all the helper
programs have been installed. You can find additional info
about helper programs at: http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyX137

Regards,
Stephen

kio_http

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Prozess Aufruf des Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von "kio_http"
 lässt sich nicht starten

Passiert beim Aufruf einer Internetseite von einer Mail aus und auch beim 
hineinpasten der Adresse in den Konqueror: was tut man in so einem Fall?

Wolfgang 

Re: kio_http

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Sonntag, 29. Januar 2006 22:54 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
> Prozess Aufruf des Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
> klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von "kio_http"
>  lässt sich nicht starten
>
> Passiert beim Aufruf einer Internetseite von einer Mail aus und auch beim
> hineinpasten der Adresse in den Konqueror: was tut man in so einem Fall?
>
> Wolfgang

Nachtrag: 
Von der Konsole:
kmail&
[1] 8338
sh-3.00$ kmail: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Aufruf des Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls 
nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von "kio_http"
kmail:
kio (KRun): ERROR: 0x868fe60 ERROR (stat) : 3 Prozess Aufruf des 
Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von "kio_http"
 lässt sich nicht starten
kmail: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Aufruf des Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht 
möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von "kio_http"
kmail:
kio (KRun): ERROR: 0x869e9f8 ERROR (stat) : 3 Prozess Aufruf des 
Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von "kio_http"
 lässt sich nicht starten
kmail: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Aufruf des Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht 
möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von "kio_http"
kmail:
kio (KRun): ERROR: 0x851fde0 ERROR (stat) : 3 Prozess Aufruf des 
Ein/Ausgabe-Moduls nicht möglich.
klauncher meldet: Fehler beim Laden von "kio_http"
 lässt sich nicht starten
appending message to ~/dead.letter.tmp


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