Re: web references

2007-09-04 Thread Miki Dovrat
Hi,

When you enter a new bibtex entry in Jabref, the url field is under the 
"General" tab.
In plain text bibtex, it is just the "url = {http://  }", found on the 
rightmost tab (bibtex entry).

Whether and how this will show up in the bibliography depends entirely on 
the bibtex entry type and the bibtex style used and its options.

I had the opposite problem, where I liked to keep urls of the papers in 
Jabref, but did not want them to show up in the written text.  I moved them 
to the doi field, Jabref doesn't care about the difference and still brings 
them up, and everyone (me) is happy.

I hope this is what you meant.

Miki

"Roberto Gorjão" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to use JabRef to manage my references, and all seemed to go 
> well... till I got to web page references. How may I create my entries so 
> LyX import URLs? On LyX I'm using an APA article class and apacitex style.
>
> I'm also having problems with enconding... I've tryed UTF-8 and ISO8859-1, 
> but diacritics always appear wrong on LyX.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Roberto
>
> -- 
>  Roberto Gorjão
> freelance designer and web designer
> personal site: www.castelosnoar.com
> PORTUGAL / BRAGA / PÓVOA DE LANHOSO
>
> 





Re: improving wrapping or hyphenation of Emphasis and /path/names

2007-09-04 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
I have a 210 page book and a 650 page book with many Emphasis (italics) 
and /path/to/file/names that extend out into my margin.


I am using microtype package which seems to work well for formatting.

I don't want to manually place a line break before each of these problem 
words or file names. I want it automated. I don't want anything in my 
margin (unless maybe in lyxcode block).


Any suggestions?

I googled for this for over 30 minutes but couldn't find what I am looking 
for. (It seems like I asked about this before but can't find in my 
saved email.)


Like Richard, I'm bamphoozled by the emphasis part; I've never seen 
emphasis screw up hyphenation (although I'll confess that I use it 
sparingly) (and I'm not very observant).  In general, there are four 
parameters that control LaTeX's use of hypenation:  \pretolerance, 
\tolerance, \hyphenpenalty and \exhyphenpenalty.  You can google them to 
try to find details.  Futzing with them might cause the emphasized terms 
to hyphenate, but also might cause excessive hyphenation elsewhere.  I'm 
not sure, but it might be possible to redefine the \emph command to use 
alternate values of some/all of these parameters just within the 
emphasized text.


Using something like \url should break up the paths, although it also 
will dictate a font style (tt?) that you may or may not agree with.  If 
\url doesn't do it for you, there's another trick, but it's rather 
tedious.  You can add \newcommand{\fslash}{\discretionary{}{/}{/}} to 
your preamble and then change every / to \fslash{} (in ERT).  That lets 
LaTeX split a "word" at a forward slash, including the slash at the 
start of the next line as in


... /start/of/long
/path/to/nowhere.

HTH,
Paul



Re: web references

2007-09-04 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Roberto Gorjão wrote:


I'm trying to use JabRef to manage my references, and all seemed to go 
well... till I got to web page references. How may I create my entries 
so LyX import URLs? On LyX I'm using an APA article class and apacitex 
style.




The apacite user manual contains some discussion of listing URLs 
(specifically, whether line breaks are handled to APA specifications, 
and the relative merits of \href v. \url).  You might also want to look at


http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=citeURL

for a suggestion about how/where to list web pages.

/Paul



Re: LyX for Literary Studies

2007-09-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
hi,

> Hello all, I'm a long-time LaTeX user but new to LyX. I am currently
> working on a package to convert Word-using literature scholars to open
> formats and the benefits of TeX. Specifically, I am trying to
> find/write a sensible GUI to the ledmac package for typesetting
> critical editions. I have some C experience and would be willing to

i'm playing in last weeks with the idea to write support for ledpar
package. the main problem is too little spare time for exploring
everything around (ledmac/ledpar, lyx code, etc...). but it may be
possible to merge our efforts if you want to. (?)

> work with the code but I'm hoping there's an easier way. I would
> appreciate if anyone could help with two problems:
> 
> First is facing-page translations. I would like to just display them
> in LyX as a special table environment, and specify a way to export
> them to LaTeX. The LaTeX command looks like
> 
>\translatedPoem{ ... original ... }{ ... translation ... }
> 
> Any chance of this working, or should I just write a script to convert
> the exported file? How much would it take to add a button to LyX and
> have it run: export LaTeX > conversion script > XeTeX resulting file >
> open result?

if you will progress anyhow on this feel free to contact me for debugging etc.
maybe some lyx wiki page to discuss further details would be possible.

good luck
pavel


Re: web references

2007-09-04 Thread Richard Heck

Roberto Gorjão wrote:
I'm also having problems with enconding... I've tryed UTF-8 and 
ISO8859-1, but diacritics always appear wrong on LyX.
The critical thing is that the encoding match the encoding of the output 
LaTeX file. Other people will have the details.


Richard


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Re: web references

2007-09-04 Thread Richard Heck

Roberto Gorjão wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to use JabRef to manage my references, and all seemed to go 
well... till I got to web page references. How may I create my entries 
so LyX import URLs? On LyX I'm using an APA article class and apacitex 
style.
I'm not sure what you mean. If you want the reference to be a url, just 
put: \url{http://whatever.com/wherever.pdf}, and don't forget to 
\usepackage{url} in the preamble. Which field you use for this will 
depend upon the details fo the apacitex style, which I've not used. It 
may also be that apacitex isn't really set up to do web references---or, 
again, there may be a special entry type (other than article, book, etc) 
to use for this. If so, you can define your own entry types in JabRef, 
if it's not already there.


Richard


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web references

2007-09-04 Thread Roberto Gorjão

Hi,

I'm trying to use JabRef to manage my references, and all seemed to go 
well... till I got to web page references. How may I create my entries 
so LyX import URLs? On LyX I'm using an APA article class and apacitex 
style.


I'm also having problems with enconding... I've tryed UTF-8 and 
ISO8859-1, but diacritics always appear wrong on LyX.


Thanks for your help!

Roberto

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freelance designer and web designer
personal site: www.castelosnoar.com
PORTUGAL / BRAGA / PÓVOA DE LANHOSO



Re: improving wrapping or hyphenation of Emphasis and /path/names

2007-09-04 Thread Richard Heck

Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
I have a 210 page book and a 650 page book with many Emphasis (italics) 
and /path/to/file/names that extend out into my margin.
  
I think you could probably use \url for the filenames. I'm not sure what 
the problem with \emph would be. Does that really interfere with 
hyphenation? If what you mean is that you're doing 
\emph{/path/to/file/names}, though, then that's different, and I'm not 
sure how to address it, since \url would make them typewriter-style. But 
maybe that can be configured.


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improving wrapping or hyphenation of Emphasis and /path/names

2007-09-04 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
I have a 210 page book and a 650 page book with many Emphasis (italics) 
and /path/to/file/names that extend out into my margin.

I am using microtype package which seems to work well for formatting.

I don't want to manually place a line break before each of these problem 
words or file names. I want it automated. I don't want anything in my 
margin (unless maybe in lyxcode block).

Any suggestions?

I googled for this for over 30 minutes but couldn't find what I am looking 
for. (It seems like I asked about this before but can't find in my 
saved email.)

  Jeremy C. Reed


Re: Rotating text

2007-09-04 Thread Marcelo Acuña
> See from reading some archived mail that I can
> rotate tables. What  
> about single lines & blocks of text?

 You can rotate text.
 Marcelo



  

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Re: Rotating text

2007-09-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Dawn & Marie Perry schrieb:

See from reading some archived mail that I can rotate tables. What about 
single lines & blocks of text?


This is possible with LaTeX-commands. Have a look at section 22.15 in this 
manual
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/LyXMathebefehle/LyXMathebefehle-3-09.pdf
(it is in German, but you'll understand the LaTeX-commands and their results.)

regards Uwe


Re: Figure Wrap won't print

2007-09-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Helge Hafting schrieb:


This is a latex bug or weakness.
The float wrap is implemented using the latex  package "floatflt".

Unfortunately, it doesn't always work. The wrapped stuff
sometimes disappear if it gets too near the page boundary,
or particularly  if it gets tangled up with document sectioning.


For more infos and workarounds about wrap floats, have a look at the 
EmbeddedObjects manual of LyX.

regards Uwe


Re: What is this? latex error iso-8859-7.def

2007-09-04 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Declan O'Byrne wrote:

I have this error, which prevents my document from doing anything. The
same document worked fine with lyx 1.5.1 on Ubuntu 7.04. Now I'm
running Ubuntu 7.10. I wonder if the problem is related to texlive,
and whether there is some package I should add?



Is the error that the file is missing?  (It's got something to do with 
encoding the Greek alphabet.)


Run 'kpsewhich iso-8859-7.def'.  On my system, it's sitting in 
/tex/latex/greek/.  If yours is missing, you can find it on 
CTAN (for instance, at 
http://www.tug.org/texlive/devsrc/Master/texmf-dist/tex/latex/greek/).


I'm not a texlive user, but I assume you can install a package the 
normal way (plop the file in the right place and run texhash).


/Paul



Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Steve Litt wrote:

> I don't spoze there's an rtf to LaTeX converter that doesn't require Word 
> or .Net?

ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/tex/support/rtf2latex/

Or export to HTML and then run "tidy" for it. And then HTML to LaTeX with:

http://html2latex.sourceforge.net/

Then import into LyX.

(I see that LyX has an File -> Import -> HTML but I don't use it.)

I have used these a lot. But it still takes a lot to clean up. (And I 
haven't used the styles yet.)

I often just use vi to search and replace in the new LyX file and then 
reload in LyX when ready to start working on it.

  Jeremy C. Reed


LyX to produce Help documentation ?

2007-09-04 Thread Teo Fonrouge
Hello,

I'm new to LyX, and have to say that is a very impressive piece of software. 
Congrats to the LyX Team.

It there available a \documentclass specifically intended to create Help files 
like a Reference Guide where the TOC use 'keywords' instead of numbers.

Currently I'm getting .html help docs by exporting from LyX to LaTeX plain and 
from here to .html with the latex2html utility.

But I'm looking for a couple more of features like:

 * TOC using 'keywords' not chapter/sections numbers
 * Hyperlink between keywords


Thanks in advance for any help.



best regards

Teo Fonrouge


Re: APA layout

2007-09-04 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Roberto Gorjão wrote:


I'm using apa.layout to style my papers, but it seems to miss several of 
the APA style specifications, namely headings' specifications (cf.: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_style#Headings).


Is there any other layout already developed that follows APA 
specifications more closely?





Are you saying that what shows up in the LyX GUI violates some of the 
APA style guidelines, or are you saying that the final output (DVI, PDF, 
...) violates the guidelines?


The layout file only controls what you see in the GUI.  If the final 
output is off, you'll need a different LaTeX document class (or maybe 
provide some optional settings to the class you are using).


/Paul



APA layout

2007-09-04 Thread Roberto Gorjão

Hi,

I'm using apa.layout to style my papers, but it seems to miss several of 
the APA style specifications, namely headings' specifications (cf.: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_style#Headings).


Is there any other layout already developed that follows APA 
specifications more closely?


Thanks!

Roberto

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PORTUGAL / BRAGA / PÓVOA DE LANHOSO



Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread William Adams

On Sep 4, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Steve Litt wrote:

I have another idea. I could write a series of Word macros to find  
styles and
write their names as tags within the text. Then export as text,  
write a Ruby
parser, and convert to LyX. Only thing is, I don't know if I can  
write the
word macros to do that. Any of you know of online documentation on  
writing

fairly complex word macros? I've got MS Word 97 IIRC.


Actually, it's fairly simple.

Here's a bit of WordBASIC which I found very useful when doing  
something similar:


http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.scripting.indesign/msg/ 
4da089d8e1739be1'


If you handle special characters and character styles by search- 
replacing them first, then apply the above code suitably adapted to  
your needs I believe you'll be all set.


William

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Re: Preferred way to write "c++"

2007-09-04 Thread Georg Baum
Neal Becker wrote:

> Sorry, I meant typeset the word: "c++".

http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=misc/misc#cpp


Georg



Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread Georg Baum
Steve Litt wrote:

> Is there a way to transfer an MS Word document to LyX, preserving the
> paragraph and character styles in the document? I don't care how messed up
> it looks after transfer -- I can tweak the layout file to suit my needs,
> but I'd prefer not to lose styles.
> 
> Anyone know how to do that?

Translate it to .sxw with OOo and then use
http://www.hj-gym.dk/~hj/writer2latex/ in clean mode. It works pretty well
on structured documents, and you can even define your own mappings for
different styles.
This procedure probably requires some tweaking of writer2latex, but should
give pretty good results.
After that import the .tex file in LyX (might need some tweaking of the
syntax.default file as well).


Georg



Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread Richard Heck


On Tuesday 04 September 2007 13:34, Steve Litt wrote:
  

> On Tuesday 04 September 2007 12:45, John Kane wrote:


> > Word-to-LaTex will give you a LaTeX file that you
> > might then able to import to LyX
> > http://kebrt.webz.cz/programs/word-to-latex/index.html
> > . I suspect the results will be VERY ugly.
  

>
> This looks like what I need. 

Oops, maybe not. I just read the specifications -- it's a Windows based 
program requiring Word 2002 (I have Word 97 on Windows 98) and .Net 1.1 
or .Net 2.0 (I have neither, and don't want to take the time to install them 
because I no longer use Windows).


I don't spoze there's an rtf to LaTeX converter that doesn't require Word 
or .Net?
  
But somebody here might be able to do the conversion for you, and send 
you the result.
I have another idea. I could write a series of Word macros to find styles and 
write their names as tags within the text. Then export as text, write a Ruby 
parser, and convert to LyX. Only thing is, I don't know if I can write the 
word macros to do that. Any of you know of online documentation on writing 
fairly complex word macros? I've got MS Word 97 IIRC.
  
What if you export the Word document to HTML? Do you get some CSS with 
it? Those may encode your styles, and then you can write your simple 
script. Or some HTML->LaTeX converter might do it for you.


Richard



Re: significantly broken

2007-09-04 Thread Richard Heck

Lance W. Haverkamp wrote:

Unnstalled 1.3.7 reinstalled 1.5.1, no change

Uninstalled 1.5.1 reinstalled 1.3.7 no change; error messages worded
slightly differently, but still largely non-functional beyond the most
basic commands.
  
Try running LyX from a terminal, and then running "Reconfigure" when you 
get into LyX (if it doesn't try to reconfigure itself). You should get 
some information on what LaTeX classes are or are not being found. You 
may also want to check your TeX installation. Also...

on 09/04/2007 10:23 AM Lance W. Haverkamp said the following:
  

Something appears to be significantly broken:

Some of the example documents can't even open without reporting an error.

I'm running a Dapper-based MEPIS Linux system.  Dapper includes 1.3.7.
I have also installed the Dapper version 1.5.1, from the LyX servers
(which installed without errors).

Opening the example article docbook_article.lyx results in:

Warning: Document class not available

The layout file requested by this document,
docbook.layout,
is not usable. This is probably because a LaTeX
class or style file required by it is not
available. See the Customization documentation
for more information.
LyX will not be able to produce output.

This isn't terribly surprising. I don't think I have the docbook styles 
needed to produce output with this document either. Try opening the user 
guide or something like that. Or try creating a blank document with the 
basic article class. And you might also try seeing if LaTeX will compile 
a simple document manually.


Attempting to view (DVI) chessgame.lyx results in the following error
message:

An empty output file was generated
followed by:
Lamda.sty not found

You may just not have Lamda.sty. It's not included with all basic TeX 
installations.


Richard


Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 13:35, you wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My 1999 classic, "Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful
> > Technologist" was written in MS Word. It was a styles based document. Now
> > I want to make a second edition.
> >
> > I tried to work on it in OpenOffice, but OpenOffice is terrible.
> >
> > Is there a way to transfer an MS Word document to LyX, preserving the
> > paragraph and character styles in the document? I don't care how messed
> > up it looks after transfer -- I can tweak the layout file to suit my
> > needs, but I'd prefer not to lose styles.
> >
> > Anyone know how to do that?
>
> Steve,
>
> I've struggled with this kind of conversion -- both ways -- for years. Here
> are a few possibilities, none of them pleasant:
>
> 1. Use the MS Word import in Lyx, which uses wvCleanLatex.
>This sometimes works -- but does not seem to retain styles, 

That's a showstopper

>and loads 
>the preamble with a whole lot of junk which make it hard to get the
>format to what you want.

That's no big deal, but the dropping of styles is a showstopper.
>
> 2. Export from OpenOffice to LaTeX 2e, then import into Lyx.
>I've often had to do quite a bit of editing the LaTeX  before Lyx will
>load the file, and the result in Lyx is often horrible, and sometimes
>unusable.  I get things like whole paragraphs of text changed to Math
> mode, with no spaces between words.  But with some documents it works well.

I have no math mode stuff in this document, so no problem. However, my 
experience with MS Word to OO Writer is it drops the styles. Anyone else know 
anything about this? If I *can* preserve the styles, this would probably be 
what I want. I can blow off any junk placed in it.
>
> 3. Copy blocks of text in OpenOffice and Paste External Selection in Lyx.
>This sometimes works quite well, but I'd hate to do it for a large
>document.

It's about 90,000 words :-)

>
> 4. Export from OpenOffice as text, then import it as paragraphs into Lyx.
>You'll have to go through the exported file with a text editor to make
>sure you have an empty line between paragraphs, and have to go through
>the Lyx document to assign a style to each paragraph -- but at least you
>have a clean preamble and nothing totally messed up.  This is the way
>I usually end up making the conversion.

Ug!

I have another idea. I could write a series of Word macros to find styles and 
write their names as tags within the text. Then export as text, write a Ruby 
parser, and convert to LyX. Only thing is, I don't know if I can write the 
word macros to do that. Any of you know of online documentation on writing 
fairly complex word macros? I've got MS Word 97 IIRC.

Thanks

SteveT

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Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/



Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread Bob Lounsbury
On 9/4/07, Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > I don't spoze there's an rtf to LaTeX converter that doesn't require Word
> or .Net?

There is latex2rtf and rtf2latex. Don't know if it preserves any
styles. It's available on Linux.

Bob


Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread Oisin Feeley
On 9/4/07, Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 September 2007 13:34, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Tuesday 04 September 2007 12:45, John Kane wrote:
> > > Word-to-LaTex will give you a LaTeX file that you
> > > might then able to import to LyX
> > > http://kebrt.webz.cz/programs/word-to-latex/index.html
> > > . I suspect the results will be VERY ugly.
> >
> > This looks like what I need.
>
> Oops, maybe not. I just read the specifications -- it's a Windows based
> program requiring Word 2002 (I have Word 97 on Windows 98) and .Net 1.1
> or .Net 2.0 (I have neither, and don't want to take the time to install them
> because I no longer use Windows).
>
> I don't spoze there's an rtf to LaTeX converter that doesn't require Word
> or .Net?

There are more suggestions in the FAQ section of the wiki which may be useful:

http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/Compatibility

Best wishes,
Oisin Feeley


Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 13:34, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 September 2007 12:45, John Kane wrote:
> > Word-to-LaTex will give you a LaTeX file that you
> > might then able to import to LyX
> > http://kebrt.webz.cz/programs/word-to-latex/index.html
> > . I suspect the results will be VERY ugly.
>
> This looks like what I need. 

Oops, maybe not. I just read the specifications -- it's a Windows based 
program requiring Word 2002 (I have Word 97 on Windows 98) and .Net 1.1 
or .Net 2.0 (I have neither, and don't want to take the time to install them 
because I no longer use Windows).

I don't spoze there's an rtf to LaTeX converter that doesn't require Word 
or .Net?

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/



Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 12:45, John Kane wrote:
> Word-to-LaTex will give you a LaTeX file that you
> might then able to import to LyX
> http://kebrt.webz.cz/programs/word-to-latex/index.html
> . I suspect the results will be VERY ugly.

This looks like what I need. No matter how ugly the output, I can massage it 
back into health. If it doesn't convert from LaTeX to LyX, I can convert word 
to XML instead, parse the XML and convert it to LyX. The documentation says 
it preserves both paragraph and character styles, and allows you to specify 
placeholder names for equivalent environments, which I can later code.

>
> Actually OOo is usually fine.  It's Word's practice of
> mangling styles that seems to mess it up.  :)

Even on brand new OO files, styles are extremely problematic. If OO were the 
last content authoring system on earth, I'd be tempted to go back to pen and 
paper.

So thank you all for creating LyX!

SteveT


Re: significantly broken

2007-09-04 Thread Lance W. Haverkamp
Unnstalled 1.3.7 reinstalled 1.5.1, no change

Uninstalled 1.5.1 reinstalled 1.3.7 no change; error messages worded
slightly differently, but still largely non-functional beyond the most
basic commands.




on 09/04/2007 10:23 AM Lance W. Haverkamp said the following:
> Something appears to be significantly broken:
> 
> Some of the example documents can't even open without reporting an error.
> 
> I'm running a Dapper-based MEPIS Linux system.  Dapper includes 1.3.7.
> I have also installed the Dapper version 1.5.1, from the LyX servers
> (which installed without errors).
> 
> Opening the example article docbook_article.lyx results in:
> 
> Warning: Document class not available
> 
> The layout file requested by this document,
> docbook.layout,
> is not usable. This is probably because a LaTeX
> class or style file required by it is not
> available. See the Customization documentation
> for more information.
> LyX will not be able to produce output.
> 
> 
> Attempting to view (DVI) chessgame.lyx results in the following error
> message:
> 
> An empty output file was generated
> followed by:
> Lamda.sty not found
> 
> Some simpler files do print OK.
> 
> 
> Does the Dapper 1.5.1 version include all the dependencies?   Or at
> least does it list the dependencies so they can be installed from the Repos?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 


Thanks!

Lance W. Haverkamp
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Re: LyX for Literary Studies

2007-09-04 Thread Richard Heck

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For Ledmac, you don't insert a footnote at the end of a sentence but apply
it to a range of the text. I doubt it is possible to do it in LyX with
insets. Or only in a clumsy way.
  
Oh, I see, this is more of a challenge. It'd be possible, though, to 
define two charstyles, one to do the edtext and then another to do the 
right kind of footnote. The issue is getting the braces around that next 
footnote, which I guess is the second argument to the \edtext 
command---though LyX doesn't actually need to know that. Doing the 
braces would take a little bit of programming, I think, but not much. 
That's a LITTLE clumsy, but not too terribly bad.


LyX is challenged when it comes to multiple argument commands.

Richard



Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread John Kane
Word-to-LaTex will give you a LaTeX file that you
might then able to import to LyX
http://kebrt.webz.cz/programs/word-to-latex/index.html
. I suspect the results will be VERY ugly.

Actually OOo is usually fine.  It's Word's practice of
mangling styles that seems to mess it up.  :)

--- Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> My 1999 classic, "Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of
> the Successful 
> Technologist" was written in MS Word. It was a
> styles based document. Now I 
> want to make a second edition.
> 
> I tried to work on it in OpenOffice, but OpenOffice
> is terrible.
> 
> Is there a way to transfer an MS Word document to
> LyX, preserving the 
> paragraph and character styles in the document? I
> don't care how messed up it 
> looks after transfer -- I can tweak the layout file
> to suit my needs, but I'd 
> prefer not to lose styles.
> 
> Anyone know how to do that?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> SteveT
> 
> Steve Litt
> Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and
> courseware
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/
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MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

My 1999 classic, "Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful 
Technologist" was written in MS Word. It was a styles based document. Now I 
want to make a second edition.

I tried to work on it in OpenOffice, but OpenOffice is terrible.

Is there a way to transfer an MS Word document to LyX, preserving the 
paragraph and character styles in the document? I don't care how messed up it 
looks after transfer -- I can tweak the layout file to suit my needs, but I'd 
prefer not to lose styles.

Anyone know how to do that?

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/


significantly broken

2007-09-04 Thread Lance W. Haverkamp
Something appears to be significantly broken:

Some of the example documents can't even open without reporting an error.

I'm running a Dapper-based MEPIS Linux system.  Dapper includes 1.3.7.
I have also installed the Dapper version 1.5.1, from the LyX servers
(which installed without errors).

Opening the example article docbook_article.lyx results in:

Warning: Document class not available

The layout file requested by this document,
docbook.layout,
is not usable. This is probably because a LaTeX
class or style file required by it is not
available. See the Customization documentation
for more information.
LyX will not be able to produce output.


Attempting to view (DVI) chessgame.lyx results in the following error
message:

An empty output file was generated
followed by:
Lamda.sty not found

Some simpler files do print OK.


Does the Dapper 1.5.1 version include all the dependencies?   Or at
least does it list the dependencies so they can be installed from the Repos?






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Re: Bug with background color of LyX notes?

2007-09-04 Thread Paul Smith
On 9/4/07, Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Go for it. But I won't be surprised if it's a long wait before a
> > > developer gets around to that one.
> >
> >   Have we told you that we accept patches? ;-)
> >
> >   Not that every patch goes in directly but a patch is a nice start. :-)
>
> Unfortunately, I know nothing about patches, and the best I can do is
> to file an enhancement request at bugzilla (and I am going to do it).

Done:

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4200

Paul


Re: Preferred way to write "c++"

2007-09-04 Thread Neal Becker
Alan Isaac wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007, Neal Becker wrote:
>> Simple question.  What is a good way to typeset 'c++'?
> 
> http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/listings/
> 

Sorry, I meant typeset the word: "c++".




Re: Figure Wrap won't print

2007-09-04 Thread Lance W. Haverkamp


on 09/04/2007 03:53 AM Helge Hafting said the following:
> Lance W. Haverkamp wrote:
>> In both 1.3.7 & 1.5.1 I've been unable to get a Figure Float Wrap to
>> appear in either DVI or  a print-out.  It's visible to me--I can see
>> both the graphic & the text in LyX.

> What you can do is:
> Try making the wrapped stuff smaller. Both narrower and
> shorter.  This usually helps.  Sometimes making it wider
> helps too. With less text beside your wrapped stuff,
> you push the next (sub)section further down and away
> from the wrapped region.
> 
> Make sure that the only stuff that will get next to the
> wrap is ordinary text.

OK...what am I supposed to be changing the size of?  The only things I
see are config windows called "Graphics" OR "Text Wrap Settings".
I have changed all kinds of things in both those windows and see
*absolutely no change whatsoever* in the LyX window appearance of the
float box, graphic nor text (using 1.5.1).  Is something suppose to be
changing that I can see?  The red (float?) box automatically goes full
(column?) width and I see no way to adjust that.

Also, the text always starts at the bottom of the graphic--like
"justified to bottom".  How do I get the text to start at the top of the
graphic so it actually has something to wrap around?


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Re: Bug with background color of LyX notes?

2007-09-04 Thread Paul Smith
On 9/4/07, José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Go for it. But I won't be surprised if it's a long wait before a
> > developer gets around to that one.
>
>   Have we told you that we accept patches? ;-)
>
>   Not that every patch goes in directly but a patch is a nice start. :-)

Unfortunately, I know nothing about patches, and the best I can do is
to file an enhancement request at bugzilla (and I am going to do it).

Paul


Re: Preferred way to write "c++"

2007-09-04 Thread Alan Isaac
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007, Neal Becker wrote:
> Simple question.  What is a good way to typeset 'c++'? 

http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/listings/

hth,
Alan Isaac






Re: Bug with background color of LyX notes?

2007-09-04 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 15:54:58 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> Go for it.  But I won't be surprised if it's a long wait before a
> developer gets around to that one.

  Have we told you that we accept patches? ;-)

  Not that every patch goes in directly but a patch is a nice start. :-)

> /Paul

-- 
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Re: Bug with background color of LyX notes?

2007-09-04 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Paul Smith wrote:


I have just noticed that one can select the math mode background
color. However, unless one selects the same background color for
normal text and for LyX notes, one cannot avoid the reported problem.
I agree that this is not a bug, but an enhancement could be introduced
to give the user the possibility of choosing the background color of
math mode in LyX notes.


Go for it.  But I won't be surprised if it's a long wait before a 
developer gets around to that one.


/Paul



Preferred way to write "c++"

2007-09-04 Thread Neal Becker
Simple question.  What is a good way to typeset 'c++'?



Re: Bug with background color of LyX notes?

2007-09-04 Thread Paul Smith
On 8/31/07, Paul A. Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have found what I think is a bug:
> >
> > 1. change the background color of LyX to white;
>
> Yuck!  Hard on the eyes.
> >
> > 2. inside a LyX note, insert something in math mode.
> >
> > One gets white background for the piece of the LyX note in math mode
> > instead of yellow. Do you confirm this bug?
> >
>
> I can confirm it, but I'm not sure it's a bug.  With the default
> background color, I still get a white background for the math-in-a-note
> inset.

I have just noticed that one can select the math mode background
color. However, unless one selects the same background color for
normal text and for LyX notes, one cannot avoid the reported problem.
I agree that this is not a bug, but an enhancement could be introduced
to give the user the possibility of choosing the background color of
math mode in LyX notes.

Paul


Re: Backspace immediately after math box

2007-09-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, not really. Within math if the cursor is behind an 'complex inset'
> that ordinarily would be removed by backspace we first select the inset
> and only the second backspace actually deletes it. It has been like that
> for a while and I think people rather like it. We could do the same
> outside math. 

I am not sure this feature is very useful. We have undo, after all.

JMarc


Re: Figure Wrap won't print

2007-09-04 Thread Helge Hafting

Lance W. Haverkamp wrote:

In both 1.3.7 & 1.5.1 I've been unable to get a Figure Float Wrap to
appear in either DVI or  a print-out.  It's visible to me--I can see
both the graphic & the text in LyX.

Floated images work fine, but as soon as I try to wrap text, the entire
float becomes invisible to DVI & Post Script.  In fact, if there's
nothing else on the page, DVI complains that I sent it a blank page!
  

This is a latex bug or weakness.
The float wrap is implemented using the latex  package "floatflt".

Unfortunately, it doesn't always work. The wrapped stuff
sometimes disappear if it gets too near the page boundary,
or particularly  if it gets tangled up with document sectioning.

This is why I rarely use it. Even if it works at first, later
editing of the document may move the page boundary and
suddenly - no float. Latex doesn't complain loudly about
this, and so LyX don't notice.  (It'd be so much
better if latex simply failed to produce output in this case,
at least nobody would print without their wrapped stuff.)


Possible fixes:
1. Fix the floatflt latex package.  This is outside what most
   LyX developers can/will do.
2. Have LyX produce the effect using some other package instead -
   but which one would that be, that don't have such problems?
3. Make a new package - probably just as hard as (1).
4. Remove the feature because it doesn't work well.  Unfortunately,
   some people want it and are willing to put up with the problems.

What you can do is:
Try making the wrapped stuff smaller. Both narrower and
shorter.  This usually helps.  Sometimes making it wider
helps too. With less text beside your wrapped stuff,
you push the next (sub)section further down and away
from the wrapped region.

Make sure that the only stuff that will get next to the
wrap is ordinary text.



You may also want to explore other options.
The multicol package can be used to put a figure in
one column and text in the other, for example.
This instead have the problem of doing some layout manually,
i.e. you have to decide exactly what text should go beside
your figure. It is no longer "floating" in any sense.  But
at least this always works - no surprisingly missing stuff.


Helge Hafting


Re: Backspace immediately after math box

2007-09-04 Thread Helge Hafting

David Pokorny wrote:

Thanks for the lively discussion :)

This is actually a somewhat common problem for me, and I understand
the value of asking that new users acclimate to a new interface, but
in this particular instance, I have to disagree:

First, the current behavior is a small (but important) violation of
the principle of least astonishment: in all other office applications,
typing a backspace either has a small effect or it deletes the current
selection. I have also never observed the behavior of "typing a
backspace selects something" in any other office application.
  

Backspace selecting something is perhaps a LyX specific
thing.  This is so you can see what will be deleted if
you go on - that is not necessarily obvious inside
a math inset.  Math is not structured as linearly as text.
Getting a selection this way takes away the deletion surprise,
because the user knows that backspace will delete a
selection.

Second, the canonical workaround (typing a left arrow key) is a burden
since it means the user has to move his/her right hand to the arrow
keys. This constitutes an interruption to the flow of typing if the
user finishes a formula, types a few words outside a formula, then
decides to rework the formula. Personally this is a very common
activity, but I would hazard a guess that any user who is, say, typing
up marginally legible class notes, would be in this position
moderately frequently. The issue is not the time saved (which is
trivial) but rather the necessary interruption of flow.

So the argument is that the following change to the behavior of the
backspace key is both easier to learn for new users and more useful
for all users:

* Both inside and outside math, typing a backspace when the cursor is
adjacent to the right hand side of an inset moves the cursor to the
last position of the left-adjacent inset; typing a backspace has an
effect identical to typing the left arrow key.
  

I don't like "backspace as left arrow".  Backspace is
for deleting.  And "any other word processor" will indeed
delete a large chunk of non-selected stuff, if the thing to the
left of the cursor happens to be a large image. Or perhaps a table.

So, backspace deleting an image in LyX is no surprise at all.
Having backspace delete other _clearly defined_ entities,
like boxes, minipages, footnotes etc. is also easy to
understand.  These things all have a border, they are
clearly "big things" placed into the text.

Now formulas may not be so clearly differentiated from
text, especially simple inline ones like "x+ay=4z"
So I understand the surprise here, and there are many
ways of "fixing" the surprise.  Some ideas:

1. Have backspace jump into the formula and just
   delete the last character there.  Downside - it is
   now harder to delete an entire formula.

2a.Have backspace against a formula act the way backspace
  works inside formulas.  That is, select what will be deleted
  first, then delete on the next press.  This makes LyX
  more self-consistent.  Formula editing will work the same
  even if the cursor comes in from outside.
  Yes - this is different from what other word processors
  do, but LyX is sort of famous for having a better math
  editor than the others anyway.
b.One can then discuss if this "select before deleting"
  policy should be extended to cover footnotes and such too.
c.Having to press backspace twice can be avoided in the case of
  repeated backspacing. When backspacing _into_ the place
  immediately after a formula (or behind anythin else where we
  might want to use the selection trick), perform the selection
  immediately.  I.e. don't wait till the user hit backspace
  again. We know this won't upset any existing selection,
  the user just pressed backspace so any earlier selection
  is gone already. This gives "one deletion per backspace"
  as well as an indication of what will go next time. It could
  even work in normal text, if one wants consistency all the way.

3. Put a border around any formula, so it will be clearer
  that the formula is a deletable entity similiar to
  a footnote, box or table.  The downside is that
  this breaks up reading a page with lots of inline
  math.  Not good, as LyX is supposed to be good
  for math editing.

To the positive argument that users get used to the existing behavior
in practice, I would agree that it is possible for users to get used
to this behavior, but I would add the normative argument that users
should not have to adapt to accommodate a behavior that is (even
marginally) astonishing.
  

We don't want unnecessary surprises. But if a different
way of working is more efficient, then it is better.

To the argument that such behavior would be superfluous since it would
mean that there are two keys that perform the same action, consider
the identical behavior of the space key and the right arrow when the
cursor is in the last position of a math inset. Or the identical
behavior of the down arrow key and the tab key when in the cursor 

Figure Wrap won't print

2007-09-04 Thread Lance W. Haverkamp
In both 1.3.7 & 1.5.1 I've been unable to get a Figure Float Wrap to
appear in either DVI or  a print-out.  It's visible to me--I can see
both the graphic & the text in LyX.

Floated images work fine, but as soon as I try to wrap text, the entire
float becomes invisible to DVI & Post Script.  In fact, if there's
nothing else on the page, DVI complains that I sent it a blank page!

Console error is as follows:

Error: Bad bounding box in Type 3 glyph
Warning: Output is empty

I have no idea what a bounding box is & didn't do anything identified as
such.

What's the trick?

Using MEPIS Linux 6.5 based on Ubuntu Dapper
LyX versions both 1.3.7 & 1.5.1 had same results

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