Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
sebastian guttenberg wrote: How are you going to modify the macro argument if the macro is not expanded? And what do you mean by there seems to be a way to avoid that? Abdel. Hi Abdel. I just want to modify the arguments and not the macro itself and therefore it is enough that the arguments are visible and modifiable. OK, I understand your argumentation but I am not sure what you describe is possible in all cases. Disclaimer: I am far from an expert WRT macro so what I say below might not be correct. The problem, AFAIU, is that sometimes the argument is hidden within the macro and you cannot easily access it your suggested way. Anyway, the math macro architecture has been basically rewritten in the development version; it is now much more powerful thanks to Stefan Schimanski. So I encourage you to try this version and provide us with comments on the devel list. Thanks, Abdel.
Re: Longtable entering footer area
Hi Helge, If you want to know more, get Knuth's Texbook http://www.amazon.com/TeXbook-Computers-Typesetting-Donald-Knuth/dp/0201134489 It explains lots of things, including the tex output routine. I have considered buying this book for some time now. It seems a good time to get it. Also, thank you very much for all the other info. It does explain a few things I was not aware of. I was hoping for an easy solution but, alas, it is not possible. I will either move the discussion to a latex group, or make a compromise somewhere. But I think the issue is settled and will not bug this list anymore :-) Helge Hafting Many thanks again. Regards, -- Rudi van der Linde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: This message (and attachments) is subject to restrictions and a disclaimer. Please refer to http://www.ansys.co.za/index.html or [EMAIL PROTECTED] for full details.
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
sebastian guttenberg wrote: Anyway, the math macro architecture has been basically rewritten in the development version; it is now much more powerful thanks to Stefan Schimanski. So I encourage you to try this version and provide us with comments on the devel list. That's very interesting information! I am a bit hesitating, because I am a bit afraid of working with unstable versions with the danger of loosing data, but I might give it a try. Stefan has a personal version of 1.5 with the macro rework if you prefer that. It's available in: svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/sts/dynmacro But I don't know if this has all the fixes of current 1.5 branch. Abdel.
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hi Abdel Thanks for your reply! The problem, AFAIU, is that sometimes the argument is hidden within the macro and you cannot easily access it your suggested way. Hm. I would probably agree that there might be problems, if I didn't know that it was different in earlier versions (and Andre has confirmed that). Also I really thought that in version 1.5.2. one can switch the behaviour... strange that nobody can confirm this... Anyway, the math macro architecture has been basically rewritten in the development version; it is now much more powerful thanks to Stefan Schimanski. So I encourage you to try this version and provide us with comments on the devel list. That's very interesting information! I am a bit hesitating, because I am a bit afraid of working with unstable versions with the danger of loosing data, but I might give it a try. Thanks again! Sebastian -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
posting problems
Guys, I now see the problems with the posting to the list, and I'll look into it today. Millions of apologies. The lyx list maintainer address has been spammed to oblivion, and that is the primary reason I somehow got out of the loop. I did not want to set a spam filter on it. Máté
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Stefan has a personal version of 1.5 with the macro rework if you prefer that. It's available in: svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/sts/dynmacro Thanks again! Unfortunately I have no support for the protocoll svn. Do I need to install all the subversion packages to make that work? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
If you are using linux or mac, svn is typically installed. On windows, the best SVN client I have seen by far is http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ This has a natural interface through windows explorer. James On 11/6/07 8:07 AM, sebastian guttenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan has a personal version of 1.5 with the macro rework if you prefer that. It's available in: svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/sts/dynmacro Thanks again! Unfortunately I have no support for the protocoll svn. Do I need to install all the subversion packages to make that work?
Re: can´t send mail to the list
Hi Wolfgang, I think you and I are probably the tip of the iceberg. I wouldn't doubt that many potentially excellent sources of LyX information for the community have just given up. Who knows, some of these people might have the skills of Herbert Voss or Dekl Tsur or JMarc, and we're blowing them off. If the problem gets more widespread I wouldn't be surprised to see a competing LyX list start. This problem has been known since at least 10/4/2007, and for whatever reason it's remained unsolved. I even researched the guy in charge of WIERDLMPC.MSCI.MEMPHIS.EDU, sent him the symptom description (a couple weeks after JMarc sent him a message), but he didn't favor me with so much as a reply. There comes a time when one must admit that life's too short to continue with an email host not responsive to problems, even if the hosting is free. We should thank our host for his previous support, and then switch email hosts -- free if possible, paid otherwise. If 100 of us contribute a dollar apiece (I'll give a dollar), the list can get decent commercial hosting for a year. SteveT On Saturday 03 November 2007 13:05, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: I can´t send mail from my normal account to the list. Same via my university account. Only webmail uni-tuebingen works. I can live with it, but it is time consuming to switch to webmail (but probably time-saving for those kind people who answer my trivial questions). I noticed others (e.g. Steve) have a similar problem. Wolfgang This is the message I get: Your message could not be delivered for 24 hour(s). It will be retried until it is 4 day(s) old. Final-Recipient: rfc822; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Action: delayed Status: 4.4.2 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; conversation with WIERDLMPC.MSCI.MEMPHIS.EDU[141.225.11.87] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting Will-Retry-Until: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:26:15 +0100 (CET)
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hi James! If you are using linux or mac, svn is typically installed. I am using linux (Ubuntu Feisty Fawn), and my Firefox complains: Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocoll (svn) isn't associated with any program Of course I then had a look which packages are related with svn (or subversion), but there are plenty and I am wondering what is the minimum I need to install? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: Re: article(APA) does not work in 1.5.x as it did in 1.4.x WAS exporting to rtf?
Thanks for the replies Paul and Juergen, Seems apacite.sty is included in the texlive-bibtex-extra package, so indeed it was not installed. Installing and reconfiguring has solved the problem. Thanks for your help. B. Bogart Paul A. Rubin wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedB. Bogart wrote: #2. Why that file will not open on gutsy due to a unsuable layout file (where the apa.layout files in gutsy and feisty are identical). Did you confirm that the gutsy machine has apacite.sty? /Paul /div
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
svn is driven at the command line. Command syntax to check out code: svn checkout URL dest Where you should replace URL by the location (server) where you want to check out from and dest is where you want it put on your machine. Look at http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ for more helpful information. James On 11/6/07 9:38 AM, sebastian guttenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi James! If you are using linux or mac, svn is typically installed. I am using linux (Ubuntu Feisty Fawn), and my Firefox complains: Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocoll (svn) isn't associated with any program Of course I then had a look which packages are related with svn (or subversion), but there are plenty and I am wondering what is the minimum I need to install?
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 09:42:26AM +0200, sebastian guttenberg wrote: Guess what, the possibility was there all the time. It was called 'locking' and usually accessed by typing Ctrl-I. Hi Andre! Very nice that you reply! I was aware of Ctrl-I (actually I mentioned it just in my last post of this thread http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg59864.html , at the very end of it). I learned about Ctrl-I from you three years ago, when you answered to a long list of suggestions of mine in http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg70338.html . But Ctrl-I is not what I mean, because I want to navigate through the arguments. And now I am really puzzled that even you don't know about the possibility to switch off the pop-up-feature while still being able to enter the argument. The reason why I am so insisting is only that my lyx 1.5.2 was for a while behaving exactly in this way!! I want this back! It's like knowing there is free beer around, and nobody tells you, where! ;-) Sorry, perhaps you will tell me that I was just halluzinating, when I believed to see this behaviour, but in case there is a chance to switch this behaviour, could you please find out for me? It is really important for me. Thanks for reading, Sebastian P.S.: If you don't see why this is so important for me, I can send you a sample file... Try recent svn. There has been a complete overhaul of the macro stuff by Stefan Schimanski that was recently merged into the current development version. Andre'
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 05:07:37PM +0200, sebastian guttenberg wrote: Stefan has a personal version of 1.5 with the macro rework if you prefer that. It's available in: svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/sts/dynmacro Thanks again! Unfortunately I have no support for the protocoll svn. Do I need to install all the subversion packages to make that work? A client is enough. Andre'
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hello! First about the popups: I think in 1.5.x, if they don't appear it's a bug in the rendering code in fact because the math mode does not detect the cursor correctly going into the macro. The behaviour that macros popup was the starting point for me to think about redoing the LyX macro code. In my thesis I define terms with a lot of macros and moreover a lot of macro nesting. With the macro editing bahaviour in 1.5.x the vertical space grows exponentially with the nesting depth. So you need a very big screen if you want to nest them more than a few times. The new approach is discussed on http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Macros. Meanwhile the option D is implemented in the development version. Some time ago I did a screencast at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Gys4rp3u4 . You can see there how the macros are looking and bahaving now in the svn repository. It seems that there is still interest in the old list-like editing bahaviour by some people. So probably you will have the choice between both. As Abdel pointed out there is the branch of the 1.5 version where I developed all this. It's not very up to date. In fact I am not even sure that it compiles because I tried the merge to the 1.6 version there at the beginning. Not sure whether I reverted properly. If you have suggestions for improvements, please tell me. Now is the time to think about how to get it right. I use the code frequently in my work and I am mostly happy with them. But there is certainly room for improvements. Regards, Stefan Am 02.11.2007 um 19:25 schrieb sebastian guttenberg: Hi lyx-team (Or others)! Thanks for the great work! I was about to post a couple of bug-reports and suggestions about the 1.4-version, and discovered yesterday that my system is out of date and that 1.5 has fixed a lot of problems and added very nice features! Nevertheless, I guess I will contribute frequently now feedbacks and perhaps bug-reports to these formus. So hope you will appreciate ;-) But for now, I have only one silly question: I was absolutely happy to see that math-macros do not any longer pop up automatically when one navigates through them (something that annoyed me very much in the past). But by chance I have changed this feature (don't know how), and the macros are popping up again :-( Please, can anybody tell me, how to switch this off??? Thanks a lot, Sebastian -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: can´t send mail to the list
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Steve Litt wrote: Hi Wolfgang, I think you and I are probably the tip of the iceberg. I wouldn't doubt that snip Hi Steve, I saw that Mate is now looking at the problem, so let's see if he can do something about it. Best regards /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Fixed?
Please check (just couple of you) if all is working well as far as posting to the list goes. Máté
Re: Fixed?
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Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hi Stefan! Thanks a lot for this great news! First of all, it's a great relief to hear that I am probably not driving crazy, because you consider the possibility of a bug in 1.5.2 being responsible for the behaviour that I would like to have. Just a pitty that this nice bug disappeared ;-) Apart from that I had a look at your you-tube video and I really find it great! Thanks also for the link to the lyx-wiki entry. I had not found it before, although I was looking in the lyx-wiki for math-macro (though not for macros). So what can I do now to make further suggestions. As far as I could see, all what I had in mind (about macros) is already implemented, but to really see that, it would be fine to use it. What is your advice. Shall I compile the development version, or try to compile your own branch? Or shall I wait for the next release? And in case I have suggestions. Where shall I post them? At the wiki or at the dev-mailing list? Regards, Sebastian P.S.: Greetings to Theresienstrasse (have done my diploma thesis in physics there). -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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Hello, I am trying to write a conference (CVPR) paper in Lyx. When I downloaded the author kit, it had the following files: cvpr.sty cvpr_eso.sty eso-pic.sty Has anyone created a Lyx layout file for CVPR? Thank you. Adrian _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_112007
Re: Fixed?
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Re: Fixed?
On Tuesday 06 November 2007 15:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please check (just couple of you) if all is working well as far as posting to the list goes. Máté Hi Máté, Thanks for the fix! It's fixed for me, as indicated by several tests performed in the last several minutes. I'd like to see if Wolfgang can post now too. You brought up a good point with spamming -- it's wrecking many systems everyone has in place, and unfortunately workarounds are necessary. I wonder if you could give your phone number to one list member who will afterwards be known as your proxy, and who can alert you if there are emails about a problem. Thanks again for fixing the problem! SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hallo! So what can I do now to make further suggestions. As far as I could see, all what I had in mind (about macros) is already implemented, but to really see that, it would be fine to use it. What is your advice. Shall I compile the development version, or try to compile your own branch? Or shall I wait for the next release? The branch was only for 1.5. I don't use it anymore. I do development now in the trunk, i.e. the 1.6 development version. I use the 1.6 trunk for my thesis, but you should backup often. It's not so stable sometimes. But for testing the new features compiling is the only way. And in case I have suggestions. Where shall I post them? At the wiki or at the dev-mailing list? Regards, Sebastian I would prefer the mailing list, with cc to me. Then others can join the discussion. P.S.: Greetings to Theresienstrasse (have done my diploma thesis in physics there). the world is small :) Stefan
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
sebastian guttenberg wrote: How are you going to modify the macro argument if the macro is not expanded? And what do you mean by there seems to be a way to avoid that? Abdel. Hi Abdel. I just want to modify the arguments and not the macro itself and therefore it is enough that the arguments are visible and modifiable. OK, I understand your argumentation but I am not sure what you describe is possible in all cases. Disclaimer: I am far from an expert WRT macro so what I say below might not be correct. The problem, AFAIU, is that sometimes the argument is hidden within the macro and you cannot easily access it your suggested way. Anyway, the math macro architecture has been basically rewritten in the development version; it is now much more powerful thanks to Stefan Schimanski. So I encourage you to try this version and provide us with comments on the devel list. Thanks, Abdel.
Re: Longtable entering footer area
Hi Helge, If you want to know more, get Knuth's Texbook http://www.amazon.com/TeXbook-Computers-Typesetting-Donald-Knuth/dp/0201134489 It explains lots of things, including the tex output routine. I have considered buying this book for some time now. It seems a good time to get it. Also, thank you very much for all the other info. It does explain a few things I was not aware of. I was hoping for an easy solution but, alas, it is not possible. I will either move the discussion to a latex group, or make a compromise somewhere. But I think the issue is settled and will not bug this list anymore :-) Helge Hafting Many thanks again. Regards, -- Rudi van der Linde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: This message (and attachments) is subject to restrictions and a disclaimer. Please refer to http://www.ansys.co.za/index.html or [EMAIL PROTECTED] for full details.
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
sebastian guttenberg wrote: Anyway, the math macro architecture has been basically rewritten in the development version; it is now much more powerful thanks to Stefan Schimanski. So I encourage you to try this version and provide us with comments on the devel list. That's very interesting information! I am a bit hesitating, because I am a bit afraid of working with unstable versions with the danger of loosing data, but I might give it a try. Stefan has a personal version of 1.5 with the macro rework if you prefer that. It's available in: svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/sts/dynmacro But I don't know if this has all the fixes of current 1.5 branch. Abdel.
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hi Abdel Thanks for your reply! The problem, AFAIU, is that sometimes the argument is hidden within the macro and you cannot easily access it your suggested way. Hm. I would probably agree that there might be problems, if I didn't know that it was different in earlier versions (and Andre has confirmed that). Also I really thought that in version 1.5.2. one can switch the behaviour... strange that nobody can confirm this... Anyway, the math macro architecture has been basically rewritten in the development version; it is now much more powerful thanks to Stefan Schimanski. So I encourage you to try this version and provide us with comments on the devel list. That's very interesting information! I am a bit hesitating, because I am a bit afraid of working with unstable versions with the danger of loosing data, but I might give it a try. Thanks again! Sebastian -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
posting problems
Guys, I now see the problems with the posting to the list, and I'll look into it today. Millions of apologies. The lyx list maintainer address has been spammed to oblivion, and that is the primary reason I somehow got out of the loop. I did not want to set a spam filter on it. Máté
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Stefan has a personal version of 1.5 with the macro rework if you prefer that. It's available in: svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/sts/dynmacro Thanks again! Unfortunately I have no support for the protocoll svn. Do I need to install all the subversion packages to make that work? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
If you are using linux or mac, svn is typically installed. On windows, the best SVN client I have seen by far is http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ This has a natural interface through windows explorer. James On 11/6/07 8:07 AM, sebastian guttenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan has a personal version of 1.5 with the macro rework if you prefer that. It's available in: svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/sts/dynmacro Thanks again! Unfortunately I have no support for the protocoll svn. Do I need to install all the subversion packages to make that work?
Re: can´t send mail to the list
Hi Wolfgang, I think you and I are probably the tip of the iceberg. I wouldn't doubt that many potentially excellent sources of LyX information for the community have just given up. Who knows, some of these people might have the skills of Herbert Voss or Dekl Tsur or JMarc, and we're blowing them off. If the problem gets more widespread I wouldn't be surprised to see a competing LyX list start. This problem has been known since at least 10/4/2007, and for whatever reason it's remained unsolved. I even researched the guy in charge of WIERDLMPC.MSCI.MEMPHIS.EDU, sent him the symptom description (a couple weeks after JMarc sent him a message), but he didn't favor me with so much as a reply. There comes a time when one must admit that life's too short to continue with an email host not responsive to problems, even if the hosting is free. We should thank our host for his previous support, and then switch email hosts -- free if possible, paid otherwise. If 100 of us contribute a dollar apiece (I'll give a dollar), the list can get decent commercial hosting for a year. SteveT On Saturday 03 November 2007 13:05, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: I can´t send mail from my normal account to the list. Same via my university account. Only webmail uni-tuebingen works. I can live with it, but it is time consuming to switch to webmail (but probably time-saving for those kind people who answer my trivial questions). I noticed others (e.g. Steve) have a similar problem. Wolfgang This is the message I get: Your message could not be delivered for 24 hour(s). It will be retried until it is 4 day(s) old. Final-Recipient: rfc822; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Action: delayed Status: 4.4.2 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; conversation with WIERDLMPC.MSCI.MEMPHIS.EDU[141.225.11.87] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting Will-Retry-Until: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:26:15 +0100 (CET)
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hi James! If you are using linux or mac, svn is typically installed. I am using linux (Ubuntu Feisty Fawn), and my Firefox complains: Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocoll (svn) isn't associated with any program Of course I then had a look which packages are related with svn (or subversion), but there are plenty and I am wondering what is the minimum I need to install? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: Re: article(APA) does not work in 1.5.x as it did in 1.4.x WAS exporting to rtf?
Thanks for the replies Paul and Juergen, Seems apacite.sty is included in the texlive-bibtex-extra package, so indeed it was not installed. Installing and reconfiguring has solved the problem. Thanks for your help. B. Bogart Paul A. Rubin wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedB. Bogart wrote: #2. Why that file will not open on gutsy due to a unsuable layout file (where the apa.layout files in gutsy and feisty are identical). Did you confirm that the gutsy machine has apacite.sty? /Paul /div
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
svn is driven at the command line. Command syntax to check out code: svn checkout URL dest Where you should replace URL by the location (server) where you want to check out from and dest is where you want it put on your machine. Look at http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ for more helpful information. James On 11/6/07 9:38 AM, sebastian guttenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi James! If you are using linux or mac, svn is typically installed. I am using linux (Ubuntu Feisty Fawn), and my Firefox complains: Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocoll (svn) isn't associated with any program Of course I then had a look which packages are related with svn (or subversion), but there are plenty and I am wondering what is the minimum I need to install?
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 09:42:26AM +0200, sebastian guttenberg wrote: Guess what, the possibility was there all the time. It was called 'locking' and usually accessed by typing Ctrl-I. Hi Andre! Very nice that you reply! I was aware of Ctrl-I (actually I mentioned it just in my last post of this thread http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg59864.html , at the very end of it). I learned about Ctrl-I from you three years ago, when you answered to a long list of suggestions of mine in http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg70338.html . But Ctrl-I is not what I mean, because I want to navigate through the arguments. And now I am really puzzled that even you don't know about the possibility to switch off the pop-up-feature while still being able to enter the argument. The reason why I am so insisting is only that my lyx 1.5.2 was for a while behaving exactly in this way!! I want this back! It's like knowing there is free beer around, and nobody tells you, where! ;-) Sorry, perhaps you will tell me that I was just halluzinating, when I believed to see this behaviour, but in case there is a chance to switch this behaviour, could you please find out for me? It is really important for me. Thanks for reading, Sebastian P.S.: If you don't see why this is so important for me, I can send you a sample file... Try recent svn. There has been a complete overhaul of the macro stuff by Stefan Schimanski that was recently merged into the current development version. Andre'
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 05:07:37PM +0200, sebastian guttenberg wrote: Stefan has a personal version of 1.5 with the macro rework if you prefer that. It's available in: svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/sts/dynmacro Thanks again! Unfortunately I have no support for the protocoll svn. Do I need to install all the subversion packages to make that work? A client is enough. Andre'
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hello! First about the popups: I think in 1.5.x, if they don't appear it's a bug in the rendering code in fact because the math mode does not detect the cursor correctly going into the macro. The behaviour that macros popup was the starting point for me to think about redoing the LyX macro code. In my thesis I define terms with a lot of macros and moreover a lot of macro nesting. With the macro editing bahaviour in 1.5.x the vertical space grows exponentially with the nesting depth. So you need a very big screen if you want to nest them more than a few times. The new approach is discussed on http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Macros. Meanwhile the option D is implemented in the development version. Some time ago I did a screencast at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Gys4rp3u4 . You can see there how the macros are looking and bahaving now in the svn repository. It seems that there is still interest in the old list-like editing bahaviour by some people. So probably you will have the choice between both. As Abdel pointed out there is the branch of the 1.5 version where I developed all this. It's not very up to date. In fact I am not even sure that it compiles because I tried the merge to the 1.6 version there at the beginning. Not sure whether I reverted properly. If you have suggestions for improvements, please tell me. Now is the time to think about how to get it right. I use the code frequently in my work and I am mostly happy with them. But there is certainly room for improvements. Regards, Stefan Am 02.11.2007 um 19:25 schrieb sebastian guttenberg: Hi lyx-team (Or others)! Thanks for the great work! I was about to post a couple of bug-reports and suggestions about the 1.4-version, and discovered yesterday that my system is out of date and that 1.5 has fixed a lot of problems and added very nice features! Nevertheless, I guess I will contribute frequently now feedbacks and perhaps bug-reports to these formus. So hope you will appreciate ;-) But for now, I have only one silly question: I was absolutely happy to see that math-macros do not any longer pop up automatically when one navigates through them (something that annoyed me very much in the past). But by chance I have changed this feature (don't know how), and the macros are popping up again :-( Please, can anybody tell me, how to switch this off??? Thanks a lot, Sebastian -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: can´t send mail to the list
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Steve Litt wrote: Hi Wolfgang, I think you and I are probably the tip of the iceberg. I wouldn't doubt that snip Hi Steve, I saw that Mate is now looking at the problem, so let's see if he can do something about it. Best regards /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Fixed?
Please check (just couple of you) if all is working well as far as posting to the list goes. Máté
Re: Fixed?
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Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hi Stefan! Thanks a lot for this great news! First of all, it's a great relief to hear that I am probably not driving crazy, because you consider the possibility of a bug in 1.5.2 being responsible for the behaviour that I would like to have. Just a pitty that this nice bug disappeared ;-) Apart from that I had a look at your you-tube video and I really find it great! Thanks also for the link to the lyx-wiki entry. I had not found it before, although I was looking in the lyx-wiki for math-macro (though not for macros). So what can I do now to make further suggestions. As far as I could see, all what I had in mind (about macros) is already implemented, but to really see that, it would be fine to use it. What is your advice. Shall I compile the development version, or try to compile your own branch? Or shall I wait for the next release? And in case I have suggestions. Where shall I post them? At the wiki or at the dev-mailing list? Regards, Sebastian P.S.: Greetings to Theresienstrasse (have done my diploma thesis in physics there). -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
CVPR Paper in Lyx
Hello, I am trying to write a conference (CVPR) paper in Lyx. When I downloaded the author kit, it had the following files: cvpr.sty cvpr_eso.sty eso-pic.sty Has anyone created a Lyx layout file for CVPR? Thank you. Adrian _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_112007
Re: Fixed?
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Re: Fixed?
On Tuesday 06 November 2007 15:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please check (just couple of you) if all is working well as far as posting to the list goes. Máté Hi Máté, Thanks for the fix! It's fixed for me, as indicated by several tests performed in the last several minutes. I'd like to see if Wolfgang can post now too. You brought up a good point with spamming -- it's wrecking many systems everyone has in place, and unfortunately workarounds are necessary. I wonder if you could give your phone number to one list member who will afterwards be known as your proxy, and who can alert you if there are emails about a problem. Thanks again for fixing the problem! SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hallo! So what can I do now to make further suggestions. As far as I could see, all what I had in mind (about macros) is already implemented, but to really see that, it would be fine to use it. What is your advice. Shall I compile the development version, or try to compile your own branch? Or shall I wait for the next release? The branch was only for 1.5. I don't use it anymore. I do development now in the trunk, i.e. the 1.6 development version. I use the 1.6 trunk for my thesis, but you should backup often. It's not so stable sometimes. But for testing the new features compiling is the only way. And in case I have suggestions. Where shall I post them? At the wiki or at the dev-mailing list? Regards, Sebastian I would prefer the mailing list, with cc to me. Then others can join the discussion. P.S.: Greetings to Theresienstrasse (have done my diploma thesis in physics there). the world is small :) Stefan
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
sebastian guttenberg wrote: How are you going to modify the macro argument if the macro is not expanded? And what do you mean by "there seems to be a way to avoid that"? Abdel. Hi Abdel. I just want to modify the arguments and not the macro itself and therefore it is enough that the arguments are visible and modifiable. OK, I understand your argumentation but I am not sure what you describe is possible in all cases. Disclaimer: I am far from an expert WRT macro so what I say below might not be correct. The problem, AFAIU, is that sometimes the argument is hidden within the macro and you cannot easily access it your suggested way. Anyway, the math macro architecture has been basically rewritten in the development version; it is now much more powerful thanks to Stefan Schimanski. So I encourage you to try this version and provide us with comments on the devel list. Thanks, Abdel.
Re: Longtable entering footer area
Hi Helge, If you want to know more, get Knuth's Texbook http://www.amazon.com/TeXbook-Computers-Typesetting-Donald-Knuth/dp/0201134489 It explains lots of things, including the tex output routine. I have considered buying this book for some time now. It seems a good time to get it. Also, thank you very much for all the other info. It does explain a few things I was not aware of. I was hoping for an easy solution but, alas, it is not possible. I will either move the discussion to a latex group, or make a compromise somewhere. But I think the issue is settled and will not bug this list anymore :-) Helge Hafting Many thanks again. Regards, -- Rudi van der Linde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: This message (and attachments) is subject to restrictions and a disclaimer. Please refer to http://www.ansys.co.za/index.html or [EMAIL PROTECTED] for full details.
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
sebastian guttenberg wrote: Anyway, the math macro architecture has been basically rewritten in the development version; it is now much more powerful thanks to Stefan Schimanski. So I encourage you to try this version and provide us with comments on the devel list. That's very interesting information! I am a bit hesitating, because I am a bit afraid of working with unstable versions with the danger of loosing data, but I might give it a try. Stefan has a personal version of 1.5 with the macro rework if you prefer that. It's available in: svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/sts/dynmacro But I don't know if this has all the fixes of current 1.5 branch. Abdel.
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hi Abdel Thanks for your reply! > The problem, AFAIU, is that sometimes the argument is hidden within > the macro and you cannot easily access it your suggested way. Hm. I would probably agree that there might be problems, if I didn't know that it was different in earlier versions (and Andre has confirmed that). Also I really thought that in version 1.5.2. one can switch the behaviour... strange that nobody can confirm this... > Anyway, the math macro architecture has been basically rewritten in > the development version; it is now much more powerful thanks to Stefan > Schimanski. So I encourage you to try this version and provide us with > comments on the devel list. That's very interesting information! I am a bit hesitating, because I am a bit afraid of working with unstable versions with the danger of loosing data, but I might give it a try. Thanks again! Sebastian -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
posting problems
Guys, I now see the problems with the posting to the list, and I'll look into it today. Millions of apologies. The lyx list maintainer address has been spammed to oblivion, and that is the primary reason I somehow got out of the loop. I did not want to set a spam filter on it. Máté
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
> Stefan has a personal version of 1.5 with the macro rework if you > prefer that. It's available in: > svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/sts/dynmacro Thanks again! Unfortunately I have no support for the protocoll svn. Do I need to install all the subversion packages to make that work? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
If you are using linux or mac, svn is typically installed. On windows, the best SVN client I have seen by far is http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ This has a natural interface through windows explorer. James On 11/6/07 8:07 AM, "sebastian guttenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Stefan has a personal version of 1.5 with the macro rework if you >> prefer that. It's available in: >> svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/sts/dynmacro > > Thanks again! Unfortunately I have no support for the protocoll svn. > Do I need to install all the subversion packages to make that work? >
Re: can´t send mail to the list
Hi Wolfgang, I think you and I are probably the tip of the iceberg. I wouldn't doubt that many potentially excellent sources of LyX information for the community have just given up. Who knows, some of these people might have the skills of Herbert Voss or Dekl Tsur or JMarc, and we're blowing them off. If the problem gets more widespread I wouldn't be surprised to see a competing LyX list start. This problem has been known since at least 10/4/2007, and for whatever reason it's remained unsolved. I even researched the guy in charge of WIERDLMPC.MSCI.MEMPHIS.EDU, sent him the symptom description (a couple weeks after JMarc sent him a message), but he didn't favor me with so much as a reply. There comes a time when one must admit that life's too short to continue with an email host not responsive to problems, even if the hosting is free. We should thank our host for his previous support, and then switch email hosts -- free if possible, paid otherwise. If 100 of us contribute a dollar apiece (I'll give a dollar), the list can get decent commercial hosting for a year. SteveT On Saturday 03 November 2007 13:05, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > I can´t send mail from my normal account to the list. Same via my > university account. Only webmail uni-tuebingen works. I can live with > it, but it is time consuming to switch to webmail (but probably > time-saving for those kind people > who answer my trivial questions). I noticed others (e.g. Steve) have a > similar problem. > > Wolfgang > > This is the message I get: > > Your message could not be delivered for 24 hour(s). > It will be retried until it is 4 day(s) old. > > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Original-Recipient: rfc822;lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > Action: delayed > Status: 4.4.2 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; conversation with > WIERDLMPC.MSCI.MEMPHIS.EDU[141.225.11.87] timed out while receiving > the initial server greeting > Will-Retry-Until: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:26:15 +0100 (CET)
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hi James! > If you are using linux or mac, svn is typically installed. I am using linux (Ubuntu Feisty Fawn), and my Firefox complains: "Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocoll (svn) isn't associated with any program" Of course I then had a look which packages are related with svn (or subversion), but there are plenty and I am wondering what is the minimum I need to install? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: Re: article(APA) does not work in 1.5.x as it did in 1.4.x WAS exporting to rtf?
Thanks for the replies Paul and Juergen, Seems apacite.sty is included in the texlive-bibtex-extra package, so indeed it was not installed. Installing and reconfiguring has solved the problem. Thanks for your help. B. Bogart Paul A. Rubin wrote: > B. Bogart > wrote: >> >> #2. Why that file will not open on gutsy due to a "unsuable" layout file >> (where the apa.layout files in gutsy and feisty are identical). > > Did you confirm that the gutsy machine has apacite.sty? > > /Paul > >
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
svn is driven at the command line. Command syntax to check out code: svn checkout Where you should replace by the location (server) where you want to check out from and is where you want it put on your machine. Look at http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ for more helpful information. James On 11/6/07 9:38 AM, "sebastian guttenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi James! > >> If you are using linux or mac, svn is typically installed. > > I am using linux (Ubuntu Feisty Fawn), and my Firefox complains: > "Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocoll > (svn) isn't associated with any program" > Of course I then had a look which packages are related with svn (or > subversion), but there are plenty and I am wondering what is the minimum > I need to install? > >
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 09:42:26AM +0200, sebastian guttenberg wrote: > > Guess what, the possibility was there all the time. It was called > > 'locking' and usually accessed by typing Ctrl-I. > > Hi Andre! Very nice that you reply! I was aware of Ctrl-I (actually I > mentioned it just in my last post of this thread > http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg59864.html , at > the very end of it). I learned about Ctrl-I from you three years ago, > when you answered to a long list of suggestions of mine in > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg70338.html . > But Ctrl-I is not what I mean, because I want to navigate through the > arguments. And now I am really puzzled that even you don't know about > the possibility to switch off the pop-up-feature while still being > able to enter the argument. The reason why I am so insisting is only > that my lyx 1.5.2 was for a while behaving exactly in this way!! I > want this back! It's like knowing there is free beer around, and > nobody tells you, where! ;-) Sorry, perhaps you will tell me that I > was just halluzinating, when I believed to see this behaviour, but in > case there is a chance to switch this behaviour, could you please find > out for me? It is really important for me. Thanks for reading, > Sebastian > > P.S.: If you don't see why this is so important for me, I can send you > a sample file... Try recent svn. There has been a complete overhaul of the macro stuff by Stefan Schimanski that was recently merged into the current development version. Andre'
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 05:07:37PM +0200, sebastian guttenberg wrote: > > Stefan has a personal version of 1.5 with the macro rework if you > > prefer that. It's available in: > > svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/sts/dynmacro > > Thanks again! Unfortunately I have no support for the protocoll svn. > Do I need to install all the subversion packages to make that work? A client is enough. Andre'
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hello! First about the popups: I think in 1.5.x, if they don't appear it's a bug in the rendering code in fact because the math mode does not detect the cursor correctly going into the macro. The behaviour that macros popup was the starting point for me to think about redoing the LyX macro code. In my thesis I define terms with a lot of macros and moreover a lot of macro nesting. With the macro editing bahaviour in 1.5.x the vertical space grows exponentially with the nesting depth. So you need a very big screen if you want to nest them more than a few times. The new approach is discussed on http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Macros. Meanwhile the option D is implemented in the development version. Some time ago I did a screencast at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Gys4rp3u4 . You can see there how the macros are looking and bahaving now in the svn repository. It seems that there is still interest in the old list-like editing bahaviour by some people. So probably you will have the choice between both. As Abdel pointed out there is the branch of the 1.5 version where I developed all this. It's not very up to date. In fact I am not even sure that it compiles because I tried the merge to the 1.6 version there at the beginning. Not sure whether I reverted properly. If you have suggestions for improvements, please tell me. Now is the time to think about how to get it right. I use the code frequently in my work and I am mostly happy with them. But there is certainly room for improvements. Regards, Stefan Am 02.11.2007 um 19:25 schrieb sebastian guttenberg: Hi lyx-team (Or others)! Thanks for the great work! I was about to post a couple of bug-reports and suggestions about the 1.4-version, and discovered yesterday that my system is out of date and that 1.5 has fixed a lot of problems and added very nice features! Nevertheless, I guess I will contribute frequently now feedbacks and perhaps bug-reports to these formus. So hope you will appreciate ;-) But for now, I have only one silly question: I was absolutely happy to see that math-macros do not any longer pop up automatically when one navigates through them (something that annoyed me very much in the past). But by chance I have changed this feature (don't know how), and the macros are popping up again :-( Please, can anybody tell me, how to switch this off??? Thanks a lot, Sebastian -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: can´t send mail to the list
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Steve Litt wrote: Hi Wolfgang, I think you and I are probably the tip of the iceberg. I wouldn't doubt that Hi Steve, I saw that Mate is now looking at the problem, so let's see if he can do something about it. Best regards /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Fixed?
Please check (just couple of you) if all is working well as far as posting to the list goes. Máté
Re: Fixed?
check 1-2 On Nov 6, 2007 1:36 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please check (just couple of you) if all is working well as far as posting > to the list goes. > > Máté >
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hi Stefan! Thanks a lot for this great news! First of all, it's a great relief to hear that I am probably not driving crazy, because you consider the possibility of a bug in 1.5.2 being responsible for the behaviour that I would like to have. Just a pitty that this nice bug disappeared ;-) Apart from that I had a look at your you-tube video and I really find it great! Thanks also for the link to the lyx-wiki entry. I had not found it before, although I was looking in the lyx-wiki for "math-macro" (though not for "macros"). So what can I do now to make further suggestions. As far as I could see, all what I had in mind (about macros) is already implemented, but to really see that, it would be fine to use it. What is your advice. Shall I compile the development version, or try to compile your own branch? Or shall I wait for the next release? And in case I have suggestions. Where shall I post them? At the wiki or at the dev-mailing list? Regards, Sebastian P.S.: Greetings to Theresienstrasse (have done my diploma thesis in physics there). -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
CVPR Paper in Lyx
Hello, I am trying to write a conference (CVPR) paper in Lyx. When I downloaded the author kit, it had the following files: cvpr.sty cvpr_eso.sty eso-pic.sty Has anyone created a Lyx layout file for CVPR? Thank you. Adrian _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_112007
Re: Fixed?
On Tuesday 06 November 2007 15:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Please check (just couple of you) if all is working well as far as posting > to the list goes. > > Máté This was sent, via Earthlink, 18:37 on 11/6/2007. SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
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Re: Fixed?
On Tuesday 06 November 2007 15:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Please check (just couple of you) if all is working well as far as posting > to the list goes. > > Máté Hi Máté, Thanks for the fix! It's fixed for me, as indicated by several tests performed in the last several minutes. I'd like to see if Wolfgang can post now too. You brought up a good point with spamming -- it's wrecking many systems everyone has in place, and unfortunately workarounds are necessary. I wonder if you could give your phone number to one list member who will afterwards be known as your proxy, and who can alert you if there are emails about a problem. Thanks again for fixing the problem! SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
Re: How to avoid Macro pop-up?
Hallo! So what can I do now to make further suggestions. As far as I could see, all what I had in mind (about macros) is already implemented, but to really see that, it would be fine to use it. What is your advice. Shall I compile the development version, or try to compile your own branch? Or shall I wait for the next release? The branch was only for 1.5. I don't use it anymore. I do development now in the trunk, i.e. the 1.6 development version. I use the 1.6 trunk for my thesis, but you should backup often. It's not so stable sometimes. But for testing the new features compiling is the only way. And in case I have suggestions. Where shall I post them? At the wiki or at the dev-mailing list? Regards, Sebastian I would prefer the mailing list, with cc to me. Then others can join the discussion. P.S.: Greetings to Theresienstrasse (have done my diploma thesis in physics there). the world is small :) Stefan
