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Re: Initial Newbie Questions
rgheck writes:
Michael Thompson wrote:
I see that you were trying to change the color of a Chapter Heading, in
particular. This does seem like a mess, easily reproducible by me;
titles and sections seem to work,
though. Evidently a problem for the masters.
The reason, as Jurgen pointed out, is because the chapter headings turn
up in the page headers---not to mention the TOC. So you really don't
want to change its color anyway, not manually. If you want chapter
headings to be colored, you change that in the document class.
You can also overcome the problem using the following in the preamble:
\let\oldtextcolor\textcolor
\DeclareRobustCommand{\textcolor}[1]{%
\lowercase{\oldtextcolor{#1}}}
Of course, this only works when all colors you use have lower case names.
--
Enrico
Re: Add some ligatures to the unicodesymbols file
Hi Anders, many thanks for your initiative. I encoutered this problem lots of time. Knowing where to look becuase of some very basic knowledge of topygraphy didn't help me. So, Thanks a lot. @Jürgen, @Uwe: Does that mean it will work with 1.6? Cheers Hellmut -- Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081172 D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321 please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
Hi, Bennett, I checked Console.app, and found nothing related to LyX installation. Here is what I found. Hi Biao, Bennett is the expert here, but just some questions from me: - Does LyX work (i.e. start, function and produce pdf:s)? - Did you install TeX before installing LyX? (I take it you didn't upgrade, but installed LyX for the first time) Also which MacOSX-version are you using? Best regards Anders
Re: Add some ligatures to the unicodesymbols file
Hellmut Weber wrote: @Jürgen, @Uwe: Does that mean it will work with 1.6? Anders' patch has been committed to both 1.6svn and 1.5.4svn. (However, I still cannot paste ligatures from Adobe Reader under Linux; maybe the KDE klipper is to blame). Jürgen
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
Hi, Anders, I can tell Bennett is an expert just by how he asked the question. The installation failed, so I did not run LyX. Yes, I installed TeX with MacTeX before LyX. This is my first time installing LyX. My Mac Version is MacOSX-10.4.11. On Jan 14, 2008 7:51 PM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Bennett, I checked Console.app, and found nothing related to LyX installation. Here is what I found. Hi Biao, Bennett is the expert here, but just some questions from me: - Does LyX work (i.e. start, function and produce pdf:s)? - Did you install TeX before installing LyX? (I take it you didn't upgrade, but installed LyX for the first time) Also which MacOSX-version are you using? Best regards Anders
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
Try to start LyX anyway and see what happens (the installation script is normally not needed for LyX to function). If it starts, try to open the Tutorial from the help menu and create a pdf ( View - PDF (pdflatex) ) If it doesn't work try LyX-Reconfigure and restart LyX. If that fails, try to open Terminal.app and write sudo texhash (you need to be an administrator), then Reconfigure LyX again (these steps are a universal cure and solves many problems that are TeX-related). Please report back on your progress (Bennett is working on improving/ integrating the installer, so I think he appreciates any feedback about problems and solutions). Anders On 14 jan 2008, at 14.03, Biao Wu wrote: Hi, Anders, I can tell Bennett is an expert just by how he asked the question. The installation failed, so I did not run LyX. Yes, I installed TeX with MacTeX before LyX. This is my first time installing LyX. My Mac Version is MacOSX-10.4.11. On Jan 14, 2008 7:51 PM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Bennett, I checked Console.app, and found nothing related to LyX installation. Here is what I found. Hi Biao, Bennett is the expert here, but just some questions from me: - Does LyX work (i.e. start, function and produce pdf:s)? - Did you install TeX before installing LyX? (I take it you didn't upgrade, but installed LyX for the first time) Also which MacOSX-version are you using? Best regards Anders
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Biao Wu wrote: Hi, Anders, I can tell Bennett is an expert just by how he asked the question. The installation failed, so I did not run LyX. Yes, I installed TeX with MacTeX before LyX. This is my first time installing LyX. My Mac Version is MacOSX-10.4.11. The installer just attempts to make things a little nicer on Mac, but LyX will run just fine without it. Also, it won't hurt to run the installer multiple times. Because AppleScript has some sort of error, I'm not able to get access to the installation log; but what that error is isn't showing up in the console. That makes it hard to tell what's going on. So try it again and let us know what dialogs pop up after it asks about LyX's template files. (There may be nothing before the AppleScript error, but that's what I want to know.) Also, check in your ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. Is there a lyx folder in there? If so, are there any files in it? If there are, open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and type: kpsewhich lyxchess.sty Does that just give you another prompt, or does it print out the path to that file? If it gives you a path, then your installation is fine, and you can just forget about the error. If it doesn't give you anything, then type in Terminal.app: texhash That will complete the installation. Otherwise -- if there is no lyx folder or there are no files in it -- let me know. Bennett
Re: Landscape document: what am I missing?
Well, of course now that I'm trying to reproduce it, I can't. :-( ... no, actually it's :-). I'm wondering if at some point I didn't change the PDF generator, as Steve Litt points out in another message. Well, it works so if I see it again I'll send the document. Thanks! L On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:02:46 -0500, Bennett Helm wrote: On Jan 11, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Laurent Duperval wrote: Nobody knows? :-( L It works for me. Perhaps you can provide more details on your setup (and even a minimal example file that fails) that might help someone figure out what's going wrong for you. Bennett On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:29:42 +, Laurent Duperval wrote: Hi, I am trying to print a landscape document. Hoewever, when I view a PDF or DVI document, it shows up in portrait. If it matters any, I am using a longtable in my document. L -- Prenez la parole en public en étant Speak to an audience while being moins nerveux et plus convaincant! less nervous and more convincing! Abonnez-vous au bulletin gratuit! Sign up for the free newsletter! http://www.duperval.com (514) 902-0186
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
On Jan 14, 2008 10:31 PM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Biao Wu wrote: Hi, Anders, I can tell Bennett is an expert just by how he asked the question. The installation failed, so I did not run LyX. Yes, I installed TeX with MacTeX before LyX. This is my first time installing LyX. My Mac Version is MacOSX-10.4.11. The installer just attempts to make things a little nicer on Mac, but LyX will run just fine without it. Also, it won't hurt to run the installer multiple times. Because AppleScript has some sort of error, I'm not able to get access to the installation log; but what that error is isn't showing up in the console. That makes it hard to tell what's going on. So try it again and let us know what dialogs pop up after it asks about LyX's template files. (There may be nothing before the AppleScript error, but that's what I want to know.) Also, check in your ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. Is there a lyx folder in there? If so, are there any files in it? If there are, open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and type: kpsewhich lyxchess.sty Does that just give you another prompt, or does it print out the path to that file? If it gives you a path, then your installation is fine, and you can just forget about the error. If it doesn't give you anything, then type in Terminal.app: texhash That will complete the installation. Otherwise -- if there is no lyx folder or there are no files in it -- let me know. Bennett I re-ran the installer. There is no dialog pop up after it asks about the template file and before the AppleScript error message. The only change is that Install default LyX templates gets checked. I don't even have this ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. But I tried kpsewhich lyxchess.sty anyway. I got just prompt. So, I tried texhash, here is what I got appledediannao:~ wubiao$ texhash texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-config: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: Updating /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-var/ls-R... texhash: Done. Thanks for the help. best Biao
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
Looks like something has gone wrong with your TeX-installation. I think the easiest is to re-install MacTeX then re-run the LyX-installer. Anders On 14 jan 2008, at 16.20, Biao Wu wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 10:31 PM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Biao Wu wrote: Hi, Anders, I can tell Bennett is an expert just by how he asked the question. The installation failed, so I did not run LyX. Yes, I installed TeX with MacTeX before LyX. This is my first time installing LyX. My Mac Version is MacOSX-10.4.11. The installer just attempts to make things a little nicer on Mac, but LyX will run just fine without it. Also, it won't hurt to run the installer multiple times. Because AppleScript has some sort of error, I'm not able to get access to the installation log; but what that error is isn't showing up in the console. That makes it hard to tell what's going on. So try it again and let us know what dialogs pop up after it asks about LyX's template files. (There may be nothing before the AppleScript error, but that's what I want to know.) Also, check in your ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. Is there a lyx folder in there? If so, are there any files in it? If there are, open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and type: kpsewhich lyxchess.sty Does that just give you another prompt, or does it print out the path to that file? If it gives you a path, then your installation is fine, and you can just forget about the error. If it doesn't give you anything, then type in Terminal.app: texhash That will complete the installation. Otherwise -- if there is no lyx folder or there are no files in it -- let me know. Bennett I re-ran the installer. There is no dialog pop up after it asks about the template file and before the AppleScript error message. The only change is that Install default LyX templates gets checked. I don't even have this ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. But I tried kpsewhich lyxchess.sty anyway. I got just prompt. So, I tried texhash, here is what I got appledediannao:~ wubiao$ texhash texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-config: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: Updating /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-var/ls-R... texhash: Done. Thanks for the help. best Biao
Re: Lyx keyboard shortcuts on mac
On 10.01.2008, at 02:33, Bennett Helm wrote: Better yet, look at the mac-bind.pdf file that is included with the LyX/Mac distribution. Insert footnote is not defined there, but you can define it yourself by creating a file with the following: \bind_file mac.bind \bind S-C-F footnote-insert While it is certainly an option to add lots of shortcuts to the bind- file, it is also kind of dissatisfying that on Windows and Linux we implicitly have *all* menu commands available as shortcuts (by the Alt +underlined letter, underlined letter, ... keyboard navigation through menus), whereas on Mac the user has to assign about a hundred shortcuts manually to achieve the same usability. Moreover, the multi- key shortcuts are not visible in the menu. (The latter is not an as big problem, as LyX has this great feature to print the shortcut of the last executed command in the status bar.) I guess it is not LyX to blame here (and certainly not it's developers :-) ), but the Mac menu system in general or maybe Qt for Mac. Nevertheless, I think it would be a good idea to offer Mac users the same level of comfort by adding *lots* of shortcuts to the standard mac.bind file and, maybe, looking for some other way to indicate multi-key shortcuts in the LyX menus. Daniel
Re: Lyx keyboard shortcuts on mac
On Jan 14, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Daniel Lohmann wrote: On 10.01.2008, at 02:33, Bennett Helm wrote: Better yet, look at the mac-bind.pdf file that is included with the LyX/Mac distribution. Insert footnote is not defined there, but you can define it yourself by creating a file with the following: \bind_file mac.bind \bind S-C-F footnote-insert While it is certainly an option to add lots of shortcuts to the bind-file, it is also kind of dissatisfying that on Windows and Linux we implicitly have *all* menu commands available as shortcuts (by the Alt+underlined letter, underlined letter, ... keyboard navigation through menus), whereas on Mac the user has to assign about a hundred shortcuts manually to achieve the same usability. Moreover, the multi-key shortcuts are not visible in the menu. (The latter is not an as big problem, as LyX has this great feature to print the shortcut of the last executed command in the status bar.) You can take a look at aqua.bind (in LyX.app/Contents/Resources/ bind). That will give access to the menus via the keyboard. Or you can use turn on Keyboard Navigation in System Preferences Keyboard Mouse Keyboard Shortcuts. I guess it is not LyX to blame here (and certainly not it's developers :-) ), but the Mac menu system in general or maybe Qt for Mac. Nevertheless, I think it would be a good idea to offer Mac users the same level of comfort by adding *lots* of shortcuts to the standard mac.bind file and, maybe, looking for some other way to indicate multi-key shortcuts in the LyX menus. Yes: it's a Qt/Mac issue. Is anyone else interested in having more standard shortcuts? Bennett
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
On Jan 14, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Anders Ekberg wrote: I re-ran the installer. There is no dialog pop up after it asks about the template file and before the AppleScript error message. The only change is that Install default LyX templates gets checked. I don't even have this ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. But I tried kpsewhich lyxchess.sty anyway. I got just prompt. So, I tried texhash, here is what I got appledediannao:~ wubiao$ texhash texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-config: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: Updating /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-var/ls-R... texhash: Done. Looks like something has gone wrong with your TeX-installation. I think the easiest is to re-install MacTeX then re-run the LyX- installer. I don't think I'd jump to that conclusion: texhash shouldn't be able to write to those directories unless run as root. So everything here looks normal to me. Biao - try manually creating ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex and then run the installer again. Does that change anything? Bennett
lyx2lyx conversion
Hello, I have 1.4.3. I get a message that lyx2lyx cannot convert from an earlier version of lyx. What should i do? TIA -- myriam
Re: lyx2lyx conversion
Myriam Abramson wrote: Hello, I have 1.4.3. I get a message that lyx2lyx cannot convert from an earlier version of lyx. What should i do? There are two possibilities: The file is actually from an older version of LyX (1.5), or the file is corrupt. To find out, open the file in a text editor, like vi. You'll see the format number at the beginning of the file. The version for 1.4.x files is 245. Later is 1.5 (or 1.6.svn). If the file is from 1.5, upgrade to 1.4.5.1: It can read files from 1.5. If the problem is file corruption, we can try to solve the problem if you post the file here. Richard
Re: preventing line splitting in .lyx files (not the output)
Alexis Huxley wrote: Hi, I'm using Subversion to embed various info about released versions of a document I've written inside the document itself. The .lyx format being text, this works *almost* fine. For example I have a note in the document containing: $LastChangedRevision: 2791 $ and this is correctly updated when I check out the document. The problem is that I also have the following in the document: $HeadURL: svn+ssh://dione.no-ip.org/diska/svn-repos/ahdg/trunk/doc/ahdg.lyx $ and this does not work. The reason it does not work is that in the .lyx *source* file the line is split, so svn fails to recognise it as text that it should update. The .lyx file contains: $HeadURL: svn+ssh://dione.no-ip.org/diska/svn-repos/ahdg/trunk/doc/ahdg.lyx $ (Just in case one our newsreads reformats that: the last '$' is on the next line indented by one space.) With LyX the line appears as a single line. In the output it does not appear at all (because it's in a note). But in the source it is being split over two lines. If I edit the source and put it all on one line, then the next time I save, it is split again. Is there any way to prevent this? Not that I know. The LyX-file output routines wrap the lines, so that they can be read reasonably in a text editor. This would involve a change to the source. That said: Does there have to be a space before the final $? If so, here's what I'd do: Write a teeny filter that will fix this in the LyX file before Subversion sees it. And, by the way, if you get this sorted out, it'd be great material for the wiki. Richard
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
On 14 jan 2008, at 17.51, Bennett Helm wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Anders Ekberg wrote: I re-ran the installer. There is no dialog pop up after it asks about the template file and before the AppleScript error message. The only change is that Install default LyX templates gets checked. I don't even have this ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. But I tried kpsewhich lyxchess.sty anyway. I got just prompt. So, I tried texhash, here is what I got appledediannao:~ wubiao$ texhash texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-config: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: Updating /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-var/ls-R... texhash: Done. Looks like something has gone wrong with your TeX-installation. I think the easiest is to re-install MacTeX then re-run the LyX- installer. I don't think I'd jump to that conclusion: texhash shouldn't be able to write to those directories unless run as root. So everything here looks normal to me. Biao - try manually creating ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex and then run the installer again. Does that change anything? Bennett Sorry, I missed the missing sudo... I think I better leave it to the experts :-) /Anders
[OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? Richard
Re: Initial Newbie Questions
G. Milde wrote: On 12.01.08, rgheck wrote: The issue has to do with the use of color in chapter and section heading---headings, in particular, that appear as page headers. You always have to be careful with so-called moving arguments. But the point remains: You don't really want to make a section heading green, if the green will then turn up in the page heading, and the TOC. Color elsewhere isn't an issue. Just curious: * Would it be ok to define a colour for a chapter or section heading and give the same heading uncoloured as short heading? * Would it help to \protect the colour def (as ERT)? Try it! rh
Re: Alternatives to YAP on Windows
David Hewitt wrote: This query spins off of a recent question from Richard Heck in response to another post. I put it in its own thread to potentially gather more opinions. What previewers do Windows people use with LyX other than YAP? Are there better alternatives? If so, how do we switch LyX over to the other one once its installed? Don't know about the former, but for the latter: ToolsPreferencesFile Formats. Find DVI, and change the viewer. Richard
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On 1/14/08, rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? My first steps on Linux were with Mandrake. It is - at least was some two years ago - quite KDE centered, while Gnome was second choice. It was OK, but after some time KDE got to me and I switched to Xfce, on Gentoo. As for KDE on Gentoo as an option, get you processor ready for compiling time ;). Liviu
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Why ever not? \d -- Truth in matters of religion is simply the opinion that has survived. -- Oscar Wilde Fonty Python and other dev news at: http://otherwiseingle.blogspot.com/
Re: lyx2lyx conversion
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:02:43 rgheck wrote: If the file is from 1.5, upgrade to 1.4.5.1: It can read files from 1.5. If the problem is file corruption, we can try to solve the problem if you post the file here. Sometimes that is not possible due to privacy reasons, in some cases you can send the file privately to one of us and that is enough to fix the bug. If necessary we can supply a scrambler script, that replaces every printable character with an x. Richard -- José Abílio
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:18:05 rgheck wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? What problems are you having? Rex Dieter, the fedora maintainer of lyx and of kde-redhat fame is very responsive and most of the perceived differences are gone. Actually I prefer the Fedora model for KDE for some reasons that I will not go into detail here... :-) Richard -- José Abílio
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
Liviu Andronic wrote: On 1/14/08, rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? My first steps on Linux were with Mandrake. It is - at least was some two years ago - quite KDE centered, while Gnome was second choice. It was OK, but after some time KDE got to me and I switched to Xfce, on Gentoo. As for KDE on Gentoo as an option, get you processor ready for compiling time ;). Yeah, I know. But I've got a new quad-core monster sitting here, just waiting for something to do. Unfortunately, I can't get gentoo to install under kvm. Otherwise, I'd devote a processor to it and check it out that way. Richard
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
Donn wrote: thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Why ever not? Well, I tried it on a laptop a while ago, and it kept crashing. That'd be the main thing. Richard
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On Monday 14 January 2008 12:18, rgheck wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? Richard Knoppix boots up into KDE, and they have a DVD version. Besides being a live disc, it's easily installable onto your hard disk. IIRC the Mandriva 2007 I use defaults to KDE and has lots and lots of KDE programs (I'm writing this on kmail), but my hatred of KDE is so profound that my first step was to switch to IceWM, and my second step was to find non-KDE substitutes for as many KDE programs as I could. It's my fervent hope that LyX never becomes a KDE program. Qt is OK, but IMHO KDE programs have too many needless interactions with other programs (like dcop server, gimme a break), needlessly causing crashiness and other problems. SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
Donn wrote: Well, I tried it on a laptop a while ago, and it kept crashing. That'd be the main thing. Ah, I think you'll suffer on laptops in general -- unless you get one of the newer ones that come with some kind of Gnu/Linux these days. I have been using Kubuntu for almost 4 years, but still can't get anything installed on our Toshiba laptop. If you have a 'desktop' machine, I can't say enough nice things about Kubuntu. Perhaps I'll give it a try on my desktop. (I suppose I could also just try debian.) But I prefer to have the same thing on all my machines, and I run Fedora on three different laptops---a Linux Certified and two Sonys---with only minor problems even on the very newest Sony: I had to compile the wireless driver from source. Richard
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
Well, I tried it on a laptop a while ago, and it kept crashing. That'd be the main thing. Ah, I think you'll suffer on laptops in general -- unless you get one of the newer ones that come with some kind of Gnu/Linux these days. I have been using Kubuntu for almost 4 years, but still can't get anything installed on our Toshiba laptop. If you have a 'desktop' machine, I can't say enough nice things about Kubuntu. \d -- When you allow legends to rule your life, your world is based on fiction -- Segio Aragones (Groo the Wanderer Number 99) Fonty Python and other dev news at: http://otherwiseingle.blogspot.com/
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
José Matos wrote: On Monday 14 January 2008 17:18:05 rgheck wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? What problems are you having? Rex Dieter, the fedora maintainer of lyx and of kde-redhat fame is very responsive and most of the perceived differences are gone. Actually I prefer the Fedora model for KDE for some reasons that I will not go into detail here... :-) I've talked to Rex about much of this, and pay attention to the kde-redhat list. Lately, it has to do with kio_audiocd grabbing exclusive locks and messing up my attempts to use shell-scripts to copy (my own!) CDs. This seems to be due to a Fedora patch to cdrdao, if I remember right, one that causes problems for kio_audiocd. The patch was presumably created by someone who wasn't paying attention to KDE. And I'm having other problems, too, that have nothing to do with KDE, so that's leading me to think I should look around. Richard
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 12:18:05PM -0500, rgheck wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? I am running Kubuntu at work. It seems to do the job. [I am the fvwm2-with-16-virtual-screens-used-as-xterm-multiplexer kind of person, so I usually don't care too much for 'integrated desktops'] Andre'
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On Monday 14 January 2008 11:18, rgheck wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? Richard Richard, For various reasons I have found myself using four different Linux distributions at the moment: Gentoo (with KDE), Suse 10.1 (with KDE), RHEL3 (with KDE) and Ubuntu (with Gnome). I haven't tried Kubuntu, but I have found Ubuntu generally satisfactory and trouble free. I like Gentoo, but getting things to work properly is sometimes very time-consuming. Things that just just work in Ubuntu or Suse sometimes take a lot of fiddling to get running in Gentoo. On the other hand, the things that you just give up on in the other distributions can usually be made to work (often quite easily) with Gentoo. I wouldn't recommend Suse because I've come across some annoying things that don't seem to have a fix -- such as frequently disallowing graphical logins except by root, until you log in as root and then log out again. We only use RHEL3 because we use some proprietory software that only runs on that release -- it's archaic, and doesn't support a lot of recent software or a lot of new hardware. Les
Problems with LyX 1.5.1 on Ubuntu 7.10
I'm seeing a couple of issues with LyX 1.5.1 on XUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) that I don't have a solution for... The package is from the Ubuntu repositories. The two issues are: (1) It appears to be really slow when trying to scroll text on the screen. It's not horrible, but its not as fast as the 1.4.x series. (2) For some reason, I can go into a dialog once and only once per session. For example, the preferences dialog, or the document settings dialog. Basically, I can go in once, make changes, hit apply, make more changes, hit apply, etc. But, as soon as I either hit save or close, I can't go back into the dialog. Once I restart LyX I can repeat the process. The strange thing about #2 is that I would have thought it was a qt resource issue that would affect other parts of the system, but it doesn't appear to. I can open the Outline, Output, command line windows with issue. Detach, re-attach them, close, re-open, etc. I'm baffled, especially by #2. I tried starting LyX from a terminal, hoping to get some error output that might point me in the right direction. There wasn't any. I tried grabbing the .deb for 1.5.2 from the lyx.org site, but couldn't get it to install. GDebi told me that it wasn't a valid package. Any hints or clues? // George --- Faster moments spent spread tales of change within the sound...
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, rgheck shared this with us all: --} --} I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the --} second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm --} thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is --} for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be --} quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? --} --} Richard --} --} Debian Etch. I have Debian Etch/stable installed on some desktop machines in an Internet Kiosk I have something to do with, and I wouldn't try to put anything Linux in front of the windows accustomed public without KDE. It works a treat they are amazed they are using Linux when informed of this. It makes more work for me because they then ask if they could install it on their computers, but I digress. You will have to use Debian backports to have something a little more up to date if required. But then Debian Lenny/testing doesn't have a lot problems but couldn't be described as completely stable all the time. I run Linux Debian Lenny/testing on two Acer lappys and Linux Debian Etch/stable on another, my with me all the time machine, a Toshie lappy with only 64MB RAM and 10GB hard drive Though on this I don't run KDE and only version 1.4 lyx. Might be the way to go? Or not? Be well, Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 ** There is no rule more invariable than that we are paid for our suspicions by finding what we suspect. ...Henry David Thoreau Debian - Just the best way to do magic.
Export graphic/html?
Hello, I have been working on latex to typeset some documents that I would like to publish as websites, some of those have pstrees which do not fit on A4 pages, therefore some of the image gets truncated, what I would like to do is export the tree only to a graphic, or perhaps export the whole document as an HTML(with equations and trees rendered as graphics) Basically I think I could manage to do it manually if I had a way to get the trees in some sort of graphic file, but I do not know how. Thanks in advance, Afief
Re: Problems with LyX 1.5.1 on Ubuntu 7.10
George De Bruin wrote: I'm seeing a couple of issues with LyX 1.5.1 on XUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) that I don't have a solution for... The package is from the Ubuntu repositories. The two issues are: (1) It appears to be really slow when trying to scroll text on the screen. It's not horrible, but its not as fast as the 1.4.x series. Try 1.5.3. Some work has been done on scrolling, and a LOT more is to come in 1.6. (2) For some reason, I can go into a dialog once and only once per session. For example, the preferences dialog, or the document settings dialog. Basically, I can go in once, make changes, hit apply, make more changes, hit apply, etc. But, as soon as I either hit save or close, I can't go back into the dialog. Once I restart LyX I can repeat the process. Don't know about this one. CC'ing lyx-devel. rh
Re: Space between numbering and name of the part in toc
Description of the problem:
How can I increase the space between numbering and name of the part in
table of contents?
It should be (part Roman 8):
VIII Illustration
But it looks like:
Vllustration
I'm using Lyx 1.5.3 and scrbook. I don't want to use the package tocloft
because of losing the toc layout of koma script.
Solution for the LateX-preamble:
% Redefinition of Part
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\ifnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] -2\relax
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\addvspace{2.25em [EMAIL PROTECTED]@}%
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Value for new space, originally 2em
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
\fi
\fi
\begingroup
\parindent \z@ \rightskip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\parfillskip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\leavevmode\sectfont\large
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\hskip -\leftskip
#1\nobreak\hfil [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] #2}\par
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\endgroup
\fi
}
Thanks to Markus Kohm for details!
Regards
Detlev
Separate pagebreaks in 2 tables of contents (problem and solution)
Hi,
I had this problem:
I'm writing a text with scrbook that includes 2 tables of contents
(tocs), the first one is a short toc (toc depth 0), the second one is a
detailed toc (toc depth 5).
The short toc is generated with package shorttoc. My problem: How can I
get pagebreaks for each toc separately, as the command
\addtocontents{toc}{\protect\newpage}
effects both tocs?
And below comes the solution that Markus Kohm found in a small example.
Thanks to him!
Regards
Detlev
\documentclass[oneside,german]{scrbook}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[latin9]{inputenc}
\setcounter{secnumdepth}{3}
\setcounter{tocdepth}{3}
\makeatletter
%% User specified LaTeX commands.
\usepackage{shorttoc}%%% For short and long toc
\usepackage{babel}
\makeatother
\begin{document}
\DeclareRobustCommand*{\shortortoc}[2]{#1}%%% New command \shortortoc
\shorttoc{Short TOC}{0}
\DeclareRobustCommand*{\shortortoc}[2]{#2}
\renewcommand*{\contentsname}{Long TOC}
\setcounter{tocdepth}{5}
\tableofcontents
\clearpage{}
\part{Introduction}
\part{Mainpart}
\chapter{Chapter 1}
\section{Section 1}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\subsection{Subsection 3}
\section{Section 2}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\chapter{Chapter 2}
\section{Section 1}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\section{Section 2}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\subsection{Subsection 3}
\chapter{Chapter 3}
\section{Section 1}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\subsection{Subsection 3}
\section{Section 2}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\addtocontents{toc}{\shortortoc{}{\protect\newpage}}%%% Pagebreak for long toc
\chapter{Chapter 4}
\section{Section 1}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\subsection{Subsection 3}
\section{Section 2}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\chapter{Chapter 5}
\chapter{Chapter 6}
\chapter{Chapter 7}
\chapter{Chapter 8}
\chapter{Chapter 9}
\chapter{Chapter 10}
\chapter{Chapter 11}
\chapter{Chapter 12}
\chapter{Chapter 13}
\chapter{Chapter 14}
\chapter{Chapter 15\_A}
\chapter{Chapter 16\_A}
\addtocontents{toc}{\shortortoc{\protect\newpage}{}}%%% Pagebreak for short toc
\chapter{Chapter 17\_B}
\chapter{Chapter 18\_B}
\part{Conclusion}
\end{document}
Shorttoc_Minimalbeispiel_6.lyx
Description: application/lyx
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
On Jan 15, 2008 12:51 AM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Anders Ekberg wrote: I re-ran the installer. There is no dialog pop up after it asks about the template file and before the AppleScript error message. The only change is that Install default LyX templates gets checked. I don't even have this ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. But I tried kpsewhich lyxchess.sty anyway. I got just prompt. So, I tried texhash, here is what I got appledediannao:~ wubiao$ texhash texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-config: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: Updating /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-var/ls-R... texhash: Done. Looks like something has gone wrong with your TeX-installation. I think the easiest is to re-install MacTeX then re-run the LyX- installer. I don't think I'd jump to that conclusion: texhash shouldn't be able to write to those directories unless run as root. So everything here looks normal to me. Biao - try manually creating ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex and then run the installer again. Does that change anything? Bennett Bennett, I created ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex. It did not change anything. I got the same error message. Biao
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:30 PM, Biao Wu wrote: Bennett, I created ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex. It did not change anything. I got the same error message. Biao I'm stumped. Try opening Terminal.app, and typing this: mkdir -p ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/lyx cp /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/tex/* ~/Library/texmf/tex/ latex/lyx/ (where you should substitute the path to your LyX.app for /path/to. In my case, keeping LyX.app in the Applications directory, I would type: cp /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/tex/* ~/Library/texmf/tex/ latex/lyx/ Then enter: texhash That will complete the last step of the installation manually. Let me know if you get any error messages when doing this. (You should see the same output from texhash as before.) Bennett
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On Jan 14, 2008 10:18 AM, rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? Richard My vote is Slackware. It is arguably one of the most stable distributions available and it is the oldest distribution still actively maintained. It's not going to hold your hand like Kubuntu or have graphical configuration tools for everything, but it's not very difficult to learn how to set it up. Trust me! If I can set it up, you can. It's not as hard as people try to claim it is. Here's a very very good guide to setting up Slackware (Did I say very good guide? Yes, very good): http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_slackware12. What I've really found is that I LOVE being in control of my system and knowing what is going on and how to change it. Slackware is very configurable and what I've heard before is this: Once you learn Debian you know Debian, once you learn Slackware you know Linux. I've tried Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Fedora, Debian, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuse, Mint, Gentoo, Red Hat, and Mepis (and probably a few others, I don't remember now). The reasons I really like Slackware are simple: stability, speed, things just work. I'm sure everyone will agree that Slackware is more difficult to get setup and you need to know a little bit about linux, but once it's done, it's done and you can get to work and never worry about crashes. Another reason I really like it is that you can install the default Slackware system which I would consider to be comparable to Debian Stable and then through http://slackbuilds.org/ (my personal favorite) you can install the latest software, which would be like Debain Unstable but without the issues that sometimes arise by trying Debian unstable software on a stable system. I don't want to get into any distro flame wars here, I'm just saying this is another reason why I prefer Slackware. Anyways, that's just my opinion as everyone has given theirs. I'm just glade so many people are using linux. Cheers, /Bob
Re: Problems with LyX 1.5.1 on Ubuntu 7.10
rgheck wrote: George De Bruin wrote: I'm seeing a couple of issues with LyX 1.5.1 on XUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) that I don't have a solution for... The package is from the Ubuntu repositories. The two issues are: (1) It appears to be really slow when trying to scroll text on the screen. It's not horrible, but its not as fast as the 1.4.x series. Try 1.5.3. Some work has been done on scrolling, and a LOT more is to come in 1.6. I would, but I don't see a .deb out there for it. (Either in the Ubuntu repos, or on ftp.lyx.org) And I really don't want to compile from the source... I've tried to install the 1.5.2 .deb, but keep getting the message: Failed to open the software package The package might be corrupted or you are not allowed to open the file. Check the permissions of the file. I tried uninstalling the 1.5.1 package first, then installing the 1.52, but get the same message. I've double checked the permissions, and they are okay. and, I've downloaded it 3 times, each time the file sizes are identical, and the md5sum's are the same. I just tried two more things: uninstalling 1.5.1 first. Still no luck. Then I tried disabling AppArmor, still no luck. I've gone back to 1.5.1 for the moment (it actually works...just oddly). (2) For some reason, I can go into a dialog once and only once per session. For example, the preferences dialog, or the document settings dialog. Basically, I can go in once, make changes, hit apply, make more changes, hit apply, etc. But, as soon as I either hit save or close, I can't go back into the dialog. Once I restart LyX I can repeat the process. Don't know about this one. CC'ing lyx-devel. Yeah, this is the one that's *really* strange and baffling to me. I should clarify: I don't have to open a document, and I don't have to make any changes in the dialog for this to happen. I also tried executing the dialog from the command buffer: dialog-show document / preferences. Neither of those work either. And, just so the dev guys see this: I've tried running LyX from a terminal: there are no error messages. // George
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On January 14, 2008 12:18:05 rgheck wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? Richard I vote for Gentoo. If you've got a quad-core, then give it something to sink its teeth into (I'd love to know how long the openoffice compile would be)! just my $.02 -- William Seager University of Toronto Scarborough www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~seager
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
M-L wrote: On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, rgheck shared this with us all: --} --} I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the --} second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm --} thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is --} for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be --} quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? --} --} Richard --} --} Debian Etch. [snip] Thanks for the suggestion. I've thought about Debian, and it has a great reputation for stability. That said, while I don't want to be absolutely bleeding edge, I do like to be near it, and Debian at least has a reputation for being, well, stable. Just looking at the packages, it looks like Lyx 1.4.3 is the most recent in etch. It looks as if lenny has 1.5.2, but even that's out of date, and, as you say, that's not yet ready. So, well, I'm still looking. Richard
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
William Seager wrote: On January 14, 2008 12:18:05 rgheck wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? Richard I vote for Gentoo. If you've got a quad-core, then give it something to sink its teeth into (I'd love to know how long the openoffice compile would be)! Thanks. It is eminently configurable rh
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
Bob Lounsbury wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 10:18 AM, rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? Richard My vote is Slackware. [snip] Thanks. I'd not even have thought of Slackware, but it may well be the right distro for me. The learning about Linux part is what attracts me to Gentoo---I don't think I'm quite ready for Linux from Scratch---but having to compile dang near everything...I'm not sure I want to go that route. rh
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On 1/15/08, rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My vote is Slackware. [snip] Thanks. I'd not even have thought of Slackware, but it may well be the right distro for me. The learning about Linux part is what attracts me to Gentoo---I don't think I'm quite ready for Linux from Scratch---but having to compile dang near everything...I'm not sure I want to go that route. Well, you can always install binaries on Gentoo [1]. Never tried, but my guess is that it should work fine. And installing from the LiveCD also goes through binaries (or at least so it was about two years ago). Liviu [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Using_PORTAGE_BINHOST
Re: Problems with LyX 1.5.1 on Ubuntu 7.10
George De Bruin wrote: rgheck wrote: Hmm. That's very strange. The Ubuntu people should really get with it. It's one thing being slow to update major versions---Debian etch is still at 1.4.3---but it's criminal not to keep up with minor version updates. And I really don't want to compile from the source... I don't know why it hasn't been updated yet...I'm a bit surprised looking at the release dates. But compiling from source isn't difficult with LyX. You don't need that much, and we'll help. ;-) Not a difficulty issue -- I know how to grab a source tarball, compile and install... Just don't want to have a non-packaged installation. I've just gotten to the point where I have too many other things to maintain that I don't need to go beyond the multiverse repositories. ;-) I know the feeling. I always have a few things lying around that I can get as rpms, though, even for Fedora, or I have to compile from source for some other reason, e.g. my scanner is only supported in sane-backends cvs. But if it gets more than a few Richard
Re: Problems with LyX 1.5.1 on Ubuntu 7.10
rgheck wrote: Hmm. That's very strange. The Ubuntu people should really get with it. It's one thing being slow to update major versions---Debian etch is still at 1.4.3---but it's criminal not to keep up with minor version updates. And I really don't want to compile from the source... I don't know why it hasn't been updated yet...I'm a bit surprised looking at the release dates. But compiling from source isn't difficult with LyX. You don't need that much, and we'll help. ;-) Not a difficulty issue -- I know how to grab a source tarball, compile and install... Just don't want to have a non-packaged installation. I've just gotten to the point where I have too many other things to maintain that I don't need to go beyond the multiverse repositories. ;-) // George
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:55:29 -0500 rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M-L wrote: On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, rgheck shared this with us all: --} --} I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the --} second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm --} thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is --} for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be --} quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? --} --} Richard --} --} Debian Etch. [snip] Thanks for the suggestion. I've thought about Debian, and it has a great reputation for stability. That said, while I don't want to be absolutely bleeding edge, I do like to be near it, and Debian at least has a reputation for being, well, stable. Just looking at the packages, it looks like Lyx 1.4.3 is the most recent in etch. It looks as if lenny has 1.5.2, but even that's out of date, and, as you say, that's not yet ready. So, well, I'm still looking. I use Debian Etch, and it is rock solid. I tried Lenny for a while, but I don't need that much updating on my regular work machine. Lyx 1.5.3 compiled with not a single glitch, so if that is all you are worried about, don't. Alan Richard
Re: Problems with LyX 1.5.1 on Ubuntu 7.10
George De Bruin wrote: rgheck wrote: (1) It appears to be really slow when trying to scroll text on the screen. It's not horrible, but its not as fast as the 1.4.x series. Try 1.5.3. Some work has been done on scrolling, and a LOT more is to come in 1.6. I would, but I don't see a .deb out there for it. Hmm. That's very strange. The Ubuntu people should really get with it. It's one thing being slow to update major versions---Debian etch is still at 1.4.3---but it's criminal not to keep up with minor version updates. And I really don't want to compile from the source... But compiling from source isn't difficult with LyX. You don't need that much, and we'll help. ;-) rh
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
I'm using sidux (based on Debian unstable) and have been since it branched off of Kanotix. It's easily stable enough for my everyday use, and yet things like the latest LyX are available quite quickly from repositories (and there's nothing stopping one from downloading and installing from the latest development snapshots). The Debian LyX maintainer generally gets versions out to the repositories within a week of a new release. I started out using Mandrake for my linux, then moved to Mepis and SUSE (and have tried the BSDs and source-oriented distros such as SourceMage and Gentoo), and have pretty much settled on Debian for its stability and huge package selection. /* Down with categorical imperative! [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ - Original Message From: rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:55:29 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution? M-L wrote: On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, rgheck shared this with us all: --} --} I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the --} second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm --} thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is --} for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be --} quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? --} --} Richard --} --} Debian Etch. [snip] Thanks for the suggestion. I've thought about Debian, and it has a great reputation for stability. That said, while I don't want to be absolutely bleeding edge, I do like to be near it, and Debian at least has a reputation for being, well, stable. Just looking at the packages, it looks like Lyx 1.4.3 is the most recent in etch. It looks as if lenny has 1.5.2, but even that's out of date, and, as you say, that's not yet ready. So, well, I'm still looking. Richard Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
rgheck wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? Richard After reading all the posts, I have to leave my comment... I am realy wondering, why only one person mentioned OpenSuSE. I am using OpenSuse 10.2 on two computers, one using xfce and the other one fluxbox and enlightenment. I used kde earlier, but switched because of the overhang, but that is a bifferent story. KDE is working very nicely on OpenSuse, the distro is stable, you get binaries for most of essentially all programms you need (well - the common ones) and it is everything on one DVD, so no network connection is needed for the install, including most of the software. I really like OpenSuSE and I would recommend it if you are looking for KDE-centric distro. Rainer
Re: Problems with LyX 1.5.1 on Ubuntu 7.10
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 11:04:05PM -0500, rgheck wrote: George De Bruin wrote: rgheck wrote: (1) It appears to be really slow when trying to scroll text on the screen. It's not horrible, but its not as fast as the 1.4.x series. Try 1.5.3. Some work has been done on scrolling, and a LOT more is to come in 1.6. I would, but I don't see a .deb out there for it. Hmm. That's very strange. The Ubuntu people should really get with it. It's one thing being slow to update major versions---Debian etch is still at 1.4.3---but it's criminal not to keep up with minor version updates. And of course it won't change because it's a stable release and stable releases only get security fixes etc. blah blah the usual stuff. Ok nothing realy new. ;) Ubuntu has afaik a faster release cycle but won't do package upgrades within a release. So you can always stick with the latest soon to be the next release development part or not. Regarding Debian I would like to provide a backport for etch but I could not find someone who's willing to sponsor it so far. I still hesitate to publish my own i386 builds in an unsinged repository for the big masses. But if you dig deep enough you'll find someone else who also did some backporting on recent LyX packages and made same avaible in an apt-get enabled repository. From QA point of view they looked ok. Sven -- There's no need for tears, cause there's no need to cry. That love that you leave will never be denied. [ Flogging Molly - Laura ] Gebuehrenboykott 2008 BU WTAL http://www.boykott-wuppertal.de
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Re: Initial Newbie Questions
rgheck writes:
Michael Thompson wrote:
I see that you were trying to change the color of a Chapter Heading, in
particular. This does seem like a mess, easily reproducible by me;
titles and sections seem to work,
though. Evidently a problem for the masters.
The reason, as Jurgen pointed out, is because the chapter headings turn
up in the page headers---not to mention the TOC. So you really don't
want to change its color anyway, not manually. If you want chapter
headings to be colored, you change that in the document class.
You can also overcome the problem using the following in the preamble:
\let\oldtextcolor\textcolor
\DeclareRobustCommand{\textcolor}[1]{%
\lowercase{\oldtextcolor{#1}}}
Of course, this only works when all colors you use have lower case names.
--
Enrico
Re: Add some ligatures to the unicodesymbols file
Hi Anders, many thanks for your initiative. I encoutered this problem lots of time. Knowing where to look becuase of some very basic knowledge of topygraphy didn't help me. So, Thanks a lot. @Jürgen, @Uwe: Does that mean it will work with 1.6? Cheers Hellmut -- Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081172 D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321 please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
Hi, Bennett, I checked Console.app, and found nothing related to LyX installation. Here is what I found. Hi Biao, Bennett is the expert here, but just some questions from me: - Does LyX work (i.e. start, function and produce pdf:s)? - Did you install TeX before installing LyX? (I take it you didn't upgrade, but installed LyX for the first time) Also which MacOSX-version are you using? Best regards Anders
Re: Add some ligatures to the unicodesymbols file
Hellmut Weber wrote: @Jürgen, @Uwe: Does that mean it will work with 1.6? Anders' patch has been committed to both 1.6svn and 1.5.4svn. (However, I still cannot paste ligatures from Adobe Reader under Linux; maybe the KDE klipper is to blame). Jürgen
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
Hi, Anders, I can tell Bennett is an expert just by how he asked the question. The installation failed, so I did not run LyX. Yes, I installed TeX with MacTeX before LyX. This is my first time installing LyX. My Mac Version is MacOSX-10.4.11. On Jan 14, 2008 7:51 PM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Bennett, I checked Console.app, and found nothing related to LyX installation. Here is what I found. Hi Biao, Bennett is the expert here, but just some questions from me: - Does LyX work (i.e. start, function and produce pdf:s)? - Did you install TeX before installing LyX? (I take it you didn't upgrade, but installed LyX for the first time) Also which MacOSX-version are you using? Best regards Anders
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
Try to start LyX anyway and see what happens (the installation script is normally not needed for LyX to function). If it starts, try to open the Tutorial from the help menu and create a pdf ( View - PDF (pdflatex) ) If it doesn't work try LyX-Reconfigure and restart LyX. If that fails, try to open Terminal.app and write sudo texhash (you need to be an administrator), then Reconfigure LyX again (these steps are a universal cure and solves many problems that are TeX-related). Please report back on your progress (Bennett is working on improving/ integrating the installer, so I think he appreciates any feedback about problems and solutions). Anders On 14 jan 2008, at 14.03, Biao Wu wrote: Hi, Anders, I can tell Bennett is an expert just by how he asked the question. The installation failed, so I did not run LyX. Yes, I installed TeX with MacTeX before LyX. This is my first time installing LyX. My Mac Version is MacOSX-10.4.11. On Jan 14, 2008 7:51 PM, Anders Ekberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Bennett, I checked Console.app, and found nothing related to LyX installation. Here is what I found. Hi Biao, Bennett is the expert here, but just some questions from me: - Does LyX work (i.e. start, function and produce pdf:s)? - Did you install TeX before installing LyX? (I take it you didn't upgrade, but installed LyX for the first time) Also which MacOSX-version are you using? Best regards Anders
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Biao Wu wrote: Hi, Anders, I can tell Bennett is an expert just by how he asked the question. The installation failed, so I did not run LyX. Yes, I installed TeX with MacTeX before LyX. This is my first time installing LyX. My Mac Version is MacOSX-10.4.11. The installer just attempts to make things a little nicer on Mac, but LyX will run just fine without it. Also, it won't hurt to run the installer multiple times. Because AppleScript has some sort of error, I'm not able to get access to the installation log; but what that error is isn't showing up in the console. That makes it hard to tell what's going on. So try it again and let us know what dialogs pop up after it asks about LyX's template files. (There may be nothing before the AppleScript error, but that's what I want to know.) Also, check in your ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. Is there a lyx folder in there? If so, are there any files in it? If there are, open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and type: kpsewhich lyxchess.sty Does that just give you another prompt, or does it print out the path to that file? If it gives you a path, then your installation is fine, and you can just forget about the error. If it doesn't give you anything, then type in Terminal.app: texhash That will complete the installation. Otherwise -- if there is no lyx folder or there are no files in it -- let me know. Bennett
Re: Landscape document: what am I missing?
Well, of course now that I'm trying to reproduce it, I can't. :-( ... no, actually it's :-). I'm wondering if at some point I didn't change the PDF generator, as Steve Litt points out in another message. Well, it works so if I see it again I'll send the document. Thanks! L On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:02:46 -0500, Bennett Helm wrote: On Jan 11, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Laurent Duperval wrote: Nobody knows? :-( L It works for me. Perhaps you can provide more details on your setup (and even a minimal example file that fails) that might help someone figure out what's going wrong for you. Bennett On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:29:42 +, Laurent Duperval wrote: Hi, I am trying to print a landscape document. Hoewever, when I view a PDF or DVI document, it shows up in portrait. If it matters any, I am using a longtable in my document. L -- Prenez la parole en public en étant Speak to an audience while being moins nerveux et plus convaincant! less nervous and more convincing! Abonnez-vous au bulletin gratuit! Sign up for the free newsletter! http://www.duperval.com (514) 902-0186
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
On Jan 14, 2008 10:31 PM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Biao Wu wrote: Hi, Anders, I can tell Bennett is an expert just by how he asked the question. The installation failed, so I did not run LyX. Yes, I installed TeX with MacTeX before LyX. This is my first time installing LyX. My Mac Version is MacOSX-10.4.11. The installer just attempts to make things a little nicer on Mac, but LyX will run just fine without it. Also, it won't hurt to run the installer multiple times. Because AppleScript has some sort of error, I'm not able to get access to the installation log; but what that error is isn't showing up in the console. That makes it hard to tell what's going on. So try it again and let us know what dialogs pop up after it asks about LyX's template files. (There may be nothing before the AppleScript error, but that's what I want to know.) Also, check in your ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. Is there a lyx folder in there? If so, are there any files in it? If there are, open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and type: kpsewhich lyxchess.sty Does that just give you another prompt, or does it print out the path to that file? If it gives you a path, then your installation is fine, and you can just forget about the error. If it doesn't give you anything, then type in Terminal.app: texhash That will complete the installation. Otherwise -- if there is no lyx folder or there are no files in it -- let me know. Bennett I re-ran the installer. There is no dialog pop up after it asks about the template file and before the AppleScript error message. The only change is that Install default LyX templates gets checked. I don't even have this ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. But I tried kpsewhich lyxchess.sty anyway. I got just prompt. So, I tried texhash, here is what I got appledediannao:~ wubiao$ texhash texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-config: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: Updating /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-var/ls-R... texhash: Done. Thanks for the help. best Biao
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
Looks like something has gone wrong with your TeX-installation. I think the easiest is to re-install MacTeX then re-run the LyX-installer. Anders On 14 jan 2008, at 16.20, Biao Wu wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 10:31 PM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Biao Wu wrote: Hi, Anders, I can tell Bennett is an expert just by how he asked the question. The installation failed, so I did not run LyX. Yes, I installed TeX with MacTeX before LyX. This is my first time installing LyX. My Mac Version is MacOSX-10.4.11. The installer just attempts to make things a little nicer on Mac, but LyX will run just fine without it. Also, it won't hurt to run the installer multiple times. Because AppleScript has some sort of error, I'm not able to get access to the installation log; but what that error is isn't showing up in the console. That makes it hard to tell what's going on. So try it again and let us know what dialogs pop up after it asks about LyX's template files. (There may be nothing before the AppleScript error, but that's what I want to know.) Also, check in your ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. Is there a lyx folder in there? If so, are there any files in it? If there are, open /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app and type: kpsewhich lyxchess.sty Does that just give you another prompt, or does it print out the path to that file? If it gives you a path, then your installation is fine, and you can just forget about the error. If it doesn't give you anything, then type in Terminal.app: texhash That will complete the installation. Otherwise -- if there is no lyx folder or there are no files in it -- let me know. Bennett I re-ran the installer. There is no dialog pop up after it asks about the template file and before the AppleScript error message. The only change is that Install default LyX templates gets checked. I don't even have this ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. But I tried kpsewhich lyxchess.sty anyway. I got just prompt. So, I tried texhash, here is what I got appledediannao:~ wubiao$ texhash texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-config: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: Updating /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-var/ls-R... texhash: Done. Thanks for the help. best Biao
Re: Lyx keyboard shortcuts on mac
On 10.01.2008, at 02:33, Bennett Helm wrote: Better yet, look at the mac-bind.pdf file that is included with the LyX/Mac distribution. Insert footnote is not defined there, but you can define it yourself by creating a file with the following: \bind_file mac.bind \bind S-C-F footnote-insert While it is certainly an option to add lots of shortcuts to the bind- file, it is also kind of dissatisfying that on Windows and Linux we implicitly have *all* menu commands available as shortcuts (by the Alt +underlined letter, underlined letter, ... keyboard navigation through menus), whereas on Mac the user has to assign about a hundred shortcuts manually to achieve the same usability. Moreover, the multi- key shortcuts are not visible in the menu. (The latter is not an as big problem, as LyX has this great feature to print the shortcut of the last executed command in the status bar.) I guess it is not LyX to blame here (and certainly not it's developers :-) ), but the Mac menu system in general or maybe Qt for Mac. Nevertheless, I think it would be a good idea to offer Mac users the same level of comfort by adding *lots* of shortcuts to the standard mac.bind file and, maybe, looking for some other way to indicate multi-key shortcuts in the LyX menus. Daniel
Re: Lyx keyboard shortcuts on mac
On Jan 14, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Daniel Lohmann wrote: On 10.01.2008, at 02:33, Bennett Helm wrote: Better yet, look at the mac-bind.pdf file that is included with the LyX/Mac distribution. Insert footnote is not defined there, but you can define it yourself by creating a file with the following: \bind_file mac.bind \bind S-C-F footnote-insert While it is certainly an option to add lots of shortcuts to the bind-file, it is also kind of dissatisfying that on Windows and Linux we implicitly have *all* menu commands available as shortcuts (by the Alt+underlined letter, underlined letter, ... keyboard navigation through menus), whereas on Mac the user has to assign about a hundred shortcuts manually to achieve the same usability. Moreover, the multi-key shortcuts are not visible in the menu. (The latter is not an as big problem, as LyX has this great feature to print the shortcut of the last executed command in the status bar.) You can take a look at aqua.bind (in LyX.app/Contents/Resources/ bind). That will give access to the menus via the keyboard. Or you can use turn on Keyboard Navigation in System Preferences Keyboard Mouse Keyboard Shortcuts. I guess it is not LyX to blame here (and certainly not it's developers :-) ), but the Mac menu system in general or maybe Qt for Mac. Nevertheless, I think it would be a good idea to offer Mac users the same level of comfort by adding *lots* of shortcuts to the standard mac.bind file and, maybe, looking for some other way to indicate multi-key shortcuts in the LyX menus. Yes: it's a Qt/Mac issue. Is anyone else interested in having more standard shortcuts? Bennett
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
On Jan 14, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Anders Ekberg wrote: I re-ran the installer. There is no dialog pop up after it asks about the template file and before the AppleScript error message. The only change is that Install default LyX templates gets checked. I don't even have this ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. But I tried kpsewhich lyxchess.sty anyway. I got just prompt. So, I tried texhash, here is what I got appledediannao:~ wubiao$ texhash texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-config: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: Updating /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-var/ls-R... texhash: Done. Looks like something has gone wrong with your TeX-installation. I think the easiest is to re-install MacTeX then re-run the LyX- installer. I don't think I'd jump to that conclusion: texhash shouldn't be able to write to those directories unless run as root. So everything here looks normal to me. Biao - try manually creating ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex and then run the installer again. Does that change anything? Bennett
lyx2lyx conversion
Hello, I have 1.4.3. I get a message that lyx2lyx cannot convert from an earlier version of lyx. What should i do? TIA -- myriam
Re: lyx2lyx conversion
Myriam Abramson wrote: Hello, I have 1.4.3. I get a message that lyx2lyx cannot convert from an earlier version of lyx. What should i do? There are two possibilities: The file is actually from an older version of LyX (1.5), or the file is corrupt. To find out, open the file in a text editor, like vi. You'll see the format number at the beginning of the file. The version for 1.4.x files is 245. Later is 1.5 (or 1.6.svn). If the file is from 1.5, upgrade to 1.4.5.1: It can read files from 1.5. If the problem is file corruption, we can try to solve the problem if you post the file here. Richard
Re: preventing line splitting in .lyx files (not the output)
Alexis Huxley wrote: Hi, I'm using Subversion to embed various info about released versions of a document I've written inside the document itself. The .lyx format being text, this works *almost* fine. For example I have a note in the document containing: $LastChangedRevision: 2791 $ and this is correctly updated when I check out the document. The problem is that I also have the following in the document: $HeadURL: svn+ssh://dione.no-ip.org/diska/svn-repos/ahdg/trunk/doc/ahdg.lyx $ and this does not work. The reason it does not work is that in the .lyx *source* file the line is split, so svn fails to recognise it as text that it should update. The .lyx file contains: $HeadURL: svn+ssh://dione.no-ip.org/diska/svn-repos/ahdg/trunk/doc/ahdg.lyx $ (Just in case one our newsreads reformats that: the last '$' is on the next line indented by one space.) With LyX the line appears as a single line. In the output it does not appear at all (because it's in a note). But in the source it is being split over two lines. If I edit the source and put it all on one line, then the next time I save, it is split again. Is there any way to prevent this? Not that I know. The LyX-file output routines wrap the lines, so that they can be read reasonably in a text editor. This would involve a change to the source. That said: Does there have to be a space before the final $? If so, here's what I'd do: Write a teeny filter that will fix this in the LyX file before Subversion sees it. And, by the way, if you get this sorted out, it'd be great material for the wiki. Richard
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
On 14 jan 2008, at 17.51, Bennett Helm wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Anders Ekberg wrote: I re-ran the installer. There is no dialog pop up after it asks about the template file and before the AppleScript error message. The only change is that Install default LyX templates gets checked. I don't even have this ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. But I tried kpsewhich lyxchess.sty anyway. I got just prompt. So, I tried texhash, here is what I got appledediannao:~ wubiao$ texhash texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-config: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: Updating /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-var/ls-R... texhash: Done. Looks like something has gone wrong with your TeX-installation. I think the easiest is to re-install MacTeX then re-run the LyX- installer. I don't think I'd jump to that conclusion: texhash shouldn't be able to write to those directories unless run as root. So everything here looks normal to me. Biao - try manually creating ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex and then run the installer again. Does that change anything? Bennett Sorry, I missed the missing sudo... I think I better leave it to the experts :-) /Anders
[OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? Richard
Re: Initial Newbie Questions
G. Milde wrote: On 12.01.08, rgheck wrote: The issue has to do with the use of color in chapter and section heading---headings, in particular, that appear as page headers. You always have to be careful with so-called moving arguments. But the point remains: You don't really want to make a section heading green, if the green will then turn up in the page heading, and the TOC. Color elsewhere isn't an issue. Just curious: * Would it be ok to define a colour for a chapter or section heading and give the same heading uncoloured as short heading? * Would it help to \protect the colour def (as ERT)? Try it! rh
Re: Alternatives to YAP on Windows
David Hewitt wrote: This query spins off of a recent question from Richard Heck in response to another post. I put it in its own thread to potentially gather more opinions. What previewers do Windows people use with LyX other than YAP? Are there better alternatives? If so, how do we switch LyX over to the other one once its installed? Don't know about the former, but for the latter: ToolsPreferencesFile Formats. Find DVI, and change the viewer. Richard
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On 1/14/08, rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? My first steps on Linux were with Mandrake. It is - at least was some two years ago - quite KDE centered, while Gnome was second choice. It was OK, but after some time KDE got to me and I switched to Xfce, on Gentoo. As for KDE on Gentoo as an option, get you processor ready for compiling time ;). Liviu
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Why ever not? \d -- Truth in matters of religion is simply the opinion that has survived. -- Oscar Wilde Fonty Python and other dev news at: http://otherwiseingle.blogspot.com/
Re: lyx2lyx conversion
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:02:43 rgheck wrote: If the file is from 1.5, upgrade to 1.4.5.1: It can read files from 1.5. If the problem is file corruption, we can try to solve the problem if you post the file here. Sometimes that is not possible due to privacy reasons, in some cases you can send the file privately to one of us and that is enough to fix the bug. If necessary we can supply a scrambler script, that replaces every printable character with an x. Richard -- José Abílio
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:18:05 rgheck wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? What problems are you having? Rex Dieter, the fedora maintainer of lyx and of kde-redhat fame is very responsive and most of the perceived differences are gone. Actually I prefer the Fedora model for KDE for some reasons that I will not go into detail here... :-) Richard -- José Abílio
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
Liviu Andronic wrote: On 1/14/08, rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? My first steps on Linux were with Mandrake. It is - at least was some two years ago - quite KDE centered, while Gnome was second choice. It was OK, but after some time KDE got to me and I switched to Xfce, on Gentoo. As for KDE on Gentoo as an option, get you processor ready for compiling time ;). Yeah, I know. But I've got a new quad-core monster sitting here, just waiting for something to do. Unfortunately, I can't get gentoo to install under kvm. Otherwise, I'd devote a processor to it and check it out that way. Richard
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
Donn wrote: thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Why ever not? Well, I tried it on a laptop a while ago, and it kept crashing. That'd be the main thing. Richard
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On Monday 14 January 2008 12:18, rgheck wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? Richard Knoppix boots up into KDE, and they have a DVD version. Besides being a live disc, it's easily installable onto your hard disk. IIRC the Mandriva 2007 I use defaults to KDE and has lots and lots of KDE programs (I'm writing this on kmail), but my hatred of KDE is so profound that my first step was to switch to IceWM, and my second step was to find non-KDE substitutes for as many KDE programs as I could. It's my fervent hope that LyX never becomes a KDE program. Qt is OK, but IMHO KDE programs have too many needless interactions with other programs (like dcop server, gimme a break), needlessly causing crashiness and other problems. SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
Donn wrote: Well, I tried it on a laptop a while ago, and it kept crashing. That'd be the main thing. Ah, I think you'll suffer on laptops in general -- unless you get one of the newer ones that come with some kind of Gnu/Linux these days. I have been using Kubuntu for almost 4 years, but still can't get anything installed on our Toshiba laptop. If you have a 'desktop' machine, I can't say enough nice things about Kubuntu. Perhaps I'll give it a try on my desktop. (I suppose I could also just try debian.) But I prefer to have the same thing on all my machines, and I run Fedora on three different laptops---a Linux Certified and two Sonys---with only minor problems even on the very newest Sony: I had to compile the wireless driver from source. Richard
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
Well, I tried it on a laptop a while ago, and it kept crashing. That'd be the main thing. Ah, I think you'll suffer on laptops in general -- unless you get one of the newer ones that come with some kind of Gnu/Linux these days. I have been using Kubuntu for almost 4 years, but still can't get anything installed on our Toshiba laptop. If you have a 'desktop' machine, I can't say enough nice things about Kubuntu. \d -- When you allow legends to rule your life, your world is based on fiction -- Segio Aragones (Groo the Wanderer Number 99) Fonty Python and other dev news at: http://otherwiseingle.blogspot.com/
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
José Matos wrote: On Monday 14 January 2008 17:18:05 rgheck wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? What problems are you having? Rex Dieter, the fedora maintainer of lyx and of kde-redhat fame is very responsive and most of the perceived differences are gone. Actually I prefer the Fedora model for KDE for some reasons that I will not go into detail here... :-) I've talked to Rex about much of this, and pay attention to the kde-redhat list. Lately, it has to do with kio_audiocd grabbing exclusive locks and messing up my attempts to use shell-scripts to copy (my own!) CDs. This seems to be due to a Fedora patch to cdrdao, if I remember right, one that causes problems for kio_audiocd. The patch was presumably created by someone who wasn't paying attention to KDE. And I'm having other problems, too, that have nothing to do with KDE, so that's leading me to think I should look around. Richard
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 12:18:05PM -0500, rgheck wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? I am running Kubuntu at work. It seems to do the job. [I am the fvwm2-with-16-virtual-screens-used-as-xterm-multiplexer kind of person, so I usually don't care too much for 'integrated desktops'] Andre'
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On Monday 14 January 2008 11:18, rgheck wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? Richard Richard, For various reasons I have found myself using four different Linux distributions at the moment: Gentoo (with KDE), Suse 10.1 (with KDE), RHEL3 (with KDE) and Ubuntu (with Gnome). I haven't tried Kubuntu, but I have found Ubuntu generally satisfactory and trouble free. I like Gentoo, but getting things to work properly is sometimes very time-consuming. Things that just just work in Ubuntu or Suse sometimes take a lot of fiddling to get running in Gentoo. On the other hand, the things that you just give up on in the other distributions can usually be made to work (often quite easily) with Gentoo. I wouldn't recommend Suse because I've come across some annoying things that don't seem to have a fix -- such as frequently disallowing graphical logins except by root, until you log in as root and then log out again. We only use RHEL3 because we use some proprietory software that only runs on that release -- it's archaic, and doesn't support a lot of recent software or a lot of new hardware. Les
Problems with LyX 1.5.1 on Ubuntu 7.10
I'm seeing a couple of issues with LyX 1.5.1 on XUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) that I don't have a solution for... The package is from the Ubuntu repositories. The two issues are: (1) It appears to be really slow when trying to scroll text on the screen. It's not horrible, but its not as fast as the 1.4.x series. (2) For some reason, I can go into a dialog once and only once per session. For example, the preferences dialog, or the document settings dialog. Basically, I can go in once, make changes, hit apply, make more changes, hit apply, etc. But, as soon as I either hit save or close, I can't go back into the dialog. Once I restart LyX I can repeat the process. The strange thing about #2 is that I would have thought it was a qt resource issue that would affect other parts of the system, but it doesn't appear to. I can open the Outline, Output, command line windows with issue. Detach, re-attach them, close, re-open, etc. I'm baffled, especially by #2. I tried starting LyX from a terminal, hoping to get some error output that might point me in the right direction. There wasn't any. I tried grabbing the .deb for 1.5.2 from the lyx.org site, but couldn't get it to install. GDebi told me that it wasn't a valid package. Any hints or clues? // George --- Faster moments spent spread tales of change within the sound...
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, rgheck shared this with us all: --} --} I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the --} second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm --} thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is --} for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be --} quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? --} --} Richard --} --} Debian Etch. I have Debian Etch/stable installed on some desktop machines in an Internet Kiosk I have something to do with, and I wouldn't try to put anything Linux in front of the windows accustomed public without KDE. It works a treat they are amazed they are using Linux when informed of this. It makes more work for me because they then ask if they could install it on their computers, but I digress. You will have to use Debian backports to have something a little more up to date if required. But then Debian Lenny/testing doesn't have a lot problems but couldn't be described as completely stable all the time. I run Linux Debian Lenny/testing on two Acer lappys and Linux Debian Etch/stable on another, my with me all the time machine, a Toshie lappy with only 64MB RAM and 10GB hard drive Though on this I don't run KDE and only version 1.4 lyx. Might be the way to go? Or not? Be well, Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 ** There is no rule more invariable than that we are paid for our suspicions by finding what we suspect. ...Henry David Thoreau Debian - Just the best way to do magic.
Export graphic/html?
Hello, I have been working on latex to typeset some documents that I would like to publish as websites, some of those have pstrees which do not fit on A4 pages, therefore some of the image gets truncated, what I would like to do is export the tree only to a graphic, or perhaps export the whole document as an HTML(with equations and trees rendered as graphics) Basically I think I could manage to do it manually if I had a way to get the trees in some sort of graphic file, but I do not know how. Thanks in advance, Afief
Re: Problems with LyX 1.5.1 on Ubuntu 7.10
George De Bruin wrote: I'm seeing a couple of issues with LyX 1.5.1 on XUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) that I don't have a solution for... The package is from the Ubuntu repositories. The two issues are: (1) It appears to be really slow when trying to scroll text on the screen. It's not horrible, but its not as fast as the 1.4.x series. Try 1.5.3. Some work has been done on scrolling, and a LOT more is to come in 1.6. (2) For some reason, I can go into a dialog once and only once per session. For example, the preferences dialog, or the document settings dialog. Basically, I can go in once, make changes, hit apply, make more changes, hit apply, etc. But, as soon as I either hit save or close, I can't go back into the dialog. Once I restart LyX I can repeat the process. Don't know about this one. CC'ing lyx-devel. rh
Re: Space between numbering and name of the part in toc
Description of the problem:
How can I increase the space between numbering and name of the part in
table of contents?
It should be (part Roman 8):
VIII Illustration
But it looks like:
Vllustration
I'm using Lyx 1.5.3 and scrbook. I don't want to use the package tocloft
because of losing the toc layout of koma script.
Solution for the LateX-preamble:
% Redefinition of Part
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\ifnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] -2\relax
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\addvspace{2.25em [EMAIL PROTECTED]@}%
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Value for new space, originally 2em
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
\fi
\fi
\begingroup
\parindent \z@ \rightskip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\parfillskip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\leavevmode\sectfont\large
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\hskip -\leftskip
#1\nobreak\hfil [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] #2}\par
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\endgroup
\fi
}
Thanks to Markus Kohm for details!
Regards
Detlev
Separate pagebreaks in 2 tables of contents (problem and solution)
Hi,
I had this problem:
I'm writing a text with scrbook that includes 2 tables of contents
(tocs), the first one is a short toc (toc depth 0), the second one is a
detailed toc (toc depth 5).
The short toc is generated with package shorttoc. My problem: How can I
get pagebreaks for each toc separately, as the command
\addtocontents{toc}{\protect\newpage}
effects both tocs?
And below comes the solution that Markus Kohm found in a small example.
Thanks to him!
Regards
Detlev
\documentclass[oneside,german]{scrbook}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[latin9]{inputenc}
\setcounter{secnumdepth}{3}
\setcounter{tocdepth}{3}
\makeatletter
%% User specified LaTeX commands.
\usepackage{shorttoc}%%% For short and long toc
\usepackage{babel}
\makeatother
\begin{document}
\DeclareRobustCommand*{\shortortoc}[2]{#1}%%% New command \shortortoc
\shorttoc{Short TOC}{0}
\DeclareRobustCommand*{\shortortoc}[2]{#2}
\renewcommand*{\contentsname}{Long TOC}
\setcounter{tocdepth}{5}
\tableofcontents
\clearpage{}
\part{Introduction}
\part{Mainpart}
\chapter{Chapter 1}
\section{Section 1}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\subsection{Subsection 3}
\section{Section 2}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\chapter{Chapter 2}
\section{Section 1}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\section{Section 2}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\subsection{Subsection 3}
\chapter{Chapter 3}
\section{Section 1}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\subsection{Subsection 3}
\section{Section 2}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\addtocontents{toc}{\shortortoc{}{\protect\newpage}}%%% Pagebreak for long toc
\chapter{Chapter 4}
\section{Section 1}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\subsection{Subsection 3}
\section{Section 2}
\subsection{Subsection 1}
\subsection{Subsection 2}
\chapter{Chapter 5}
\chapter{Chapter 6}
\chapter{Chapter 7}
\chapter{Chapter 8}
\chapter{Chapter 9}
\chapter{Chapter 10}
\chapter{Chapter 11}
\chapter{Chapter 12}
\chapter{Chapter 13}
\chapter{Chapter 14}
\chapter{Chapter 15\_A}
\chapter{Chapter 16\_A}
\addtocontents{toc}{\shortortoc{\protect\newpage}{}}%%% Pagebreak for short toc
\chapter{Chapter 17\_B}
\chapter{Chapter 18\_B}
\part{Conclusion}
\end{document}
Shorttoc_Minimalbeispiel_6.lyx
Description: application/lyx
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
On Jan 15, 2008 12:51 AM, Bennett Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Anders Ekberg wrote: I re-ran the installer. There is no dialog pop up after it asks about the template file and before the AppleScript error message. The only change is that Install default LyX templates gets checked. I don't even have this ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/ folder. But I tried kpsewhich lyxchess.sty anyway. I got just prompt. So, I tried texhash, here is what I got appledediannao:~ wubiao$ texhash texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-config: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist: directory not writable. Skipping... texhash: Updating /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-var/ls-R... texhash: Done. Looks like something has gone wrong with your TeX-installation. I think the easiest is to re-install MacTeX then re-run the LyX- installer. I don't think I'd jump to that conclusion: texhash shouldn't be able to write to those directories unless run as root. So everything here looks normal to me. Biao - try manually creating ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex and then run the installer again. Does that change anything? Bennett Bennett, I created ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex. It did not change anything. I got the same error message. Biao
Re: error while installing lyx on mac
On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:30 PM, Biao Wu wrote: Bennett, I created ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex. It did not change anything. I got the same error message. Biao I'm stumped. Try opening Terminal.app, and typing this: mkdir -p ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/lyx cp /path/to/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/tex/* ~/Library/texmf/tex/ latex/lyx/ (where you should substitute the path to your LyX.app for /path/to. In my case, keeping LyX.app in the Applications directory, I would type: cp /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/tex/* ~/Library/texmf/tex/ latex/lyx/ Then enter: texhash That will complete the last step of the installation manually. Let me know if you get any error messages when doing this. (You should see the same output from texhash as before.) Bennett
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On Jan 14, 2008 10:18 AM, rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? Richard My vote is Slackware. It is arguably one of the most stable distributions available and it is the oldest distribution still actively maintained. It's not going to hold your hand like Kubuntu or have graphical configuration tools for everything, but it's not very difficult to learn how to set it up. Trust me! If I can set it up, you can. It's not as hard as people try to claim it is. Here's a very very good guide to setting up Slackware (Did I say very good guide? Yes, very good): http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_slackware12. What I've really found is that I LOVE being in control of my system and knowing what is going on and how to change it. Slackware is very configurable and what I've heard before is this: Once you learn Debian you know Debian, once you learn Slackware you know Linux. I've tried Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Fedora, Debian, PCLinuxOS, OpenSuse, Mint, Gentoo, Red Hat, and Mepis (and probably a few others, I don't remember now). The reasons I really like Slackware are simple: stability, speed, things just work. I'm sure everyone will agree that Slackware is more difficult to get setup and you need to know a little bit about linux, but once it's done, it's done and you can get to work and never worry about crashes. Another reason I really like it is that you can install the default Slackware system which I would consider to be comparable to Debian Stable and then through http://slackbuilds.org/ (my personal favorite) you can install the latest software, which would be like Debain Unstable but without the issues that sometimes arise by trying Debian unstable software on a stable system. I don't want to get into any distro flame wars here, I'm just saying this is another reason why I prefer Slackware. Anyways, that's just my opinion as everyone has given theirs. I'm just glade so many people are using linux. Cheers, /Bob
Re: Problems with LyX 1.5.1 on Ubuntu 7.10
rgheck wrote: George De Bruin wrote: I'm seeing a couple of issues with LyX 1.5.1 on XUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) that I don't have a solution for... The package is from the Ubuntu repositories. The two issues are: (1) It appears to be really slow when trying to scroll text on the screen. It's not horrible, but its not as fast as the 1.4.x series. Try 1.5.3. Some work has been done on scrolling, and a LOT more is to come in 1.6. I would, but I don't see a .deb out there for it. (Either in the Ubuntu repos, or on ftp.lyx.org) And I really don't want to compile from the source... I've tried to install the 1.5.2 .deb, but keep getting the message: Failed to open the software package The package might be corrupted or you are not allowed to open the file. Check the permissions of the file. I tried uninstalling the 1.5.1 package first, then installing the 1.52, but get the same message. I've double checked the permissions, and they are okay. and, I've downloaded it 3 times, each time the file sizes are identical, and the md5sum's are the same. I just tried two more things: uninstalling 1.5.1 first. Still no luck. Then I tried disabling AppArmor, still no luck. I've gone back to 1.5.1 for the moment (it actually works...just oddly). (2) For some reason, I can go into a dialog once and only once per session. For example, the preferences dialog, or the document settings dialog. Basically, I can go in once, make changes, hit apply, make more changes, hit apply, etc. But, as soon as I either hit save or close, I can't go back into the dialog. Once I restart LyX I can repeat the process. Don't know about this one. CC'ing lyx-devel. Yeah, this is the one that's *really* strange and baffling to me. I should clarify: I don't have to open a document, and I don't have to make any changes in the dialog for this to happen. I also tried executing the dialog from the command buffer: dialog-show document / preferences. Neither of those work either. And, just so the dev guys see this: I've tried running LyX from a terminal: there are no error messages. // George
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
On January 14, 2008 12:18:05 rgheck wrote: I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? Richard I vote for Gentoo. If you've got a quad-core, then give it something to sink its teeth into (I'd love to know how long the openoffice compile would be)! just my $.02 -- William Seager University of Toronto Scarborough www.utsc.utoronto.ca/~seager
Re: [OT] Best KDE-centric Distribution?
M-L wrote: On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, rgheck shared this with us all: --} --} I've been using Fedora ever since I started using Linux, but the --} second-rate status of KDE under Fedora is starting to get to me, so I'm --} thinking about switching. But then: to what? I don't think Kubuntu is --} for me. Gentoo would be an option, but then I'm not sure I want to be --} quite that bleeding-edge. So, the question: What? --} --} Richard --} --} Debian Etch. [snip] Thanks for the suggestion. I've thought about Debian, and it has a great reputation for stability. That said, while I don't want to be absolutely bleeding edge, I do like to be near it, and Debian at least has a reputation for being, well, stable. Just looking at the packages, it looks like Lyx 1.4.3 is the most recent in etch. It looks as if lenny has 1.5.2, but even that's out of date, and, as you say, that's not yet ready. So, well, I'm still looking. Richard
