Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Rainer M Krug]

Scott Kostyshak  writes:

> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal  
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry for posting so late about this. I gave a talk on Lyx at Linuxfest
>> Northwest 2013:
>>
>>
>> http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
>> alternative-latex
>>
>> I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/
>>
>> It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
>> installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.
>
> I am working on a bash script that installs TeX Live 2012 (or 2013 if
> you prefer) manually in Ubuntu 12.04 through 13.04. Having a manual
> install of TeX Live is nice because it allows for one to have more
> control over the installation and specifically updating packages (e.g.
> tlmgr). The script also (optionally) installs all dependencies of the
> LyX examples and templates. Finally, the script tests that all of the
> examples and templates are compilable. This way the user can open any
> template, example, or help document in any language and it will
> compile.
>
> Let me know if you are interested in testing.

As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as well
as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.

Some things I think would be useful in the script:

1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations (2012,
2013)

2) the possibility to switch between local and systemwide texlive
installation

3) the possibility to de-install the local installation.

4) the possibility to install the complete TeX Live

If these features would be included, this would most definitely be a
very useful script.

Cheers,

Rainer


>
> Scott
>

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Powerdot and graphics

[Joe Melton]

Hello All,

I am using LyX 2.0.5.1. on a Mac (10.6.8) with the powerdot layout that
 comes preinstalled. I am trying to get powerdot to easily include figures 
in a sensical way. I have had no luck fiddling on my own and the
 powerdot manual does not address figure placement. I was 
hoping someone would have some tips as I couldn't find anything
 in the archive. I am relatively new to lyx/latex.

The main issues are that the graphic is added in a way that it
 flows off the slide. I can specify the size using the dialog box 
but I am hopeful there would be a more intelligent way? I was 
also hoping for a way to put the text and graphic side-by-side
 in some cases. I tried to set up a text box at 45% width and then 
a figure float on the other side but that did not work. My use 
of powerdot will be heavily dependent on getting figures in easily.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Joe

Lyx stuck generating PDFs

[Julio Rojas]

Dear all, I am having a very weird behaviour on Lyx 2.0.6. When I try to
generate any PDF, even the simplest one, nothing happens. I can see
PDFLatex running in the background, eating some processor, but nothing to
be worried about. This keeps going on until a message telling me that the
command pdflatex "newfile1.tex" has not yet completed appears. If I export
a LaTeX document from this same file and run pdflatex on it, everything
works smoothly. Is there any way of knowing what is happening? There is not
even a LaTeX log on Lyx to check where the problem lies. Maybe running Lyx
from command line (I am on Windows 7) will help me on tracking any bug.

Thanks for your time and help.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sorry for posting so late about this. I gave a talk on Lyx at Linuxfest
> Northwest 2013:
>
>
> http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
> alternative-latex
>
> I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/
>
> It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
> installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.

I am working on a bash script that installs TeX Live 2012 (or 2013 if
you prefer) manually in Ubuntu 12.04 through 13.04. Having a manual
install of TeX Live is nice because it allows for one to have more
control over the installation and specifically updating packages (e.g.
tlmgr). The script also (optionally) installs all dependencies of the
LyX examples and templates. Finally, the script tests that all of the
examples and templates are compilable. This way the user can open any
template, example, or help document in any language and it will
compile.

Let me know if you are interested in testing.

Scott

Re: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

[Wolfgang Keller]

> > of course he's right, but then he can google what DILLIGAF stands
> > for :-)-O

> No he can't, with comments like
> /"open source programs have great appeal for people who want to
> tinker with computers but almost none for those who actually want to
> do something."/
> 
> He would not be able to use Google as it is running open source 
> programs, and he wouldn't use it as it's against his principles.

He couldn't use "the internet" reasonably altogether, since BIND is
FOSS.

And most DNS servers are also running on FOSS operating systems, btw.

And then there are FOSS database systems such as e.g. PostgreSQL
feeding those BINDs with the data they need.

Besides all those routers and switches running firmware based on various
FOSS operating systems.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: beamer documentation

[Wolfgang Keller]

> Where could I find beamer documentation on how to customize or adjust
> a template according to my liking (in the document's preamble)? The
> user guide is quite long still superficial regarding this. For
> example I would like to change the sizes and positioning of the
> headline and footline, changing the navigation icons, etc.

There's a specific Beamer mailinglist:





Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Re: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

[Alan L Tyree]

Liviu Andronic writes:

> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Murat Yildizoglu  wrote:
>> Isn't there already a working corkboard tool for Lyx (but I have never been
>> able to test it), by Rob?
>>
> Yes, but it has never made its way to trunk. To my understanding the
> goal of the GSoC project is to polish the outliner/corkboard code,
> implement the missing bits and when ready merge with current trunk.
>
> Liviu
We might also look at 'tags' for these idea fragments. Ord-mode lets the
user attach tags to headlines. You can then search by tag and organise
views by tags. It's a powerful mechanism when you have a large number of
fragments.

Adding 'non-linear' writing tools to LyX, together with good ePub
support, would make it the killer tool for writers.

Cheers,
Alan

>
>
>>
>> 2013/6/12 Liviu Andronic 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke
>>>  wrote:
>>> > You can write a bestseller with a pencil or with vim/emacs. LyX could be
>>> > a publishing environment producing high quality pdfs and ePubs ready for
>>> > distribution. Our target group are not authors (have a look at
>>> > Scrivener[1] to see what a program looks like that targets authors) but
>>> > publishers.
>>> >
>>> This is the goal of one of our GSoC projects this year:
>>> http://wiki.lyx.org/GSoC/NonLinearWriting and
>>> http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SummerOfCode2013Ideas#toc5 .
>>>
>>> Liviu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
>>
>> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
>> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
>> Avenue Léon Duguit
>> 33608 Pessac cedex
>> France
>>
>> Bureau : E-331
>>
>> yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
>>
>> web: yildizoglu.info


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Re: beamer documentation

[Csikos Bela]

"Jürgen Spitzmüller"  írta:

>2013/6/11 Csikos Bela
>>Where could I find beamer documentation on how to customize or adjust a
>>template according to my liking (in the document's preamble)? The user
>>guide is quite long still superficial regarding this. For example I would 
>>like to
>>change the sizes and positioning of the headline and footline, changing the
>>navigation icons, etc.

>I suppose the best source is the beamer manual. You can also ask specific
>questions here, there are quite some beamer users around.Jürgen

Thanks. I am reading the manual. It has more information than I thought first.

bcsikos

Re: the dreaded docx export - WAS: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

[Rainer M Krug]

stefano franchi  writes:

> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
>
>> stefano franchi  writes:
>>
>> > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ray Rashif  writes:
>> >>
>> >> > On 12 June 2013 03:57, stefano franchi 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Ray Rashif > >> >wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On 11 June 2013 14:15, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I wanted to survey the LyX and LaTeX community for some opinions on
>> >> this,
>> >> >>> perhaps to get an idea as to the demand for some research into this
>> >> area.
>> >> >>> The project would do some empirical comparisons of the workarounds
>> and
>> >> >>> propose at most two or three solutions that work (integration with
>> >> Pandoc,
>> >> >>> or converintg directly to a simpler and well-supported language).
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The emphasis would be on retaining as much semantic meaning as
>> >> possible,
>> >> >>> across different levels of complexity, starting from the very
>> basic. I
>> >> am
>> >> >>> not aware of any similar academic or non-academic effort, but this
>> >> could
>> >> >>> also be a long blog post.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> HI Ray,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am not sure about what you're asking, exactly? Perhaps a survey of
>> the
>> >> >> different lyx-doc(x) use cases that current lyx users care most
>> about?
>> >> Or
>> >> >> rather a definition of the simplest yet still useful use case we can
>> >> >> imagine? If the former, I would suggest starting a page on our wiki,
>> >> >> perhaps as a possible GSoC 2014 project, as a repository of useful
>> cases
>> >>
>> >> I think to start a wiki page to outline a possible GSoC 2014 project
>> >> would be a good idea.
>> >>
>> >>
>> > I created a page here: http://wiki.lyx.org/GSoC/GSoCProjectIdeasFor2014
>> > The first item on the page is "Round trip conversion between LyX and
>> .docx
>> > formats "
>> > I entered a minimal description of what I take is both Rainer's and Ray's
>> > wishes.
>> > Could you guys expand it?
>>
>> Thanks Stefano.
>>
>> just added my ideas and my understanding[1]. Please add your ideas and
>> suggestions.
>>
>>
>
> Thanks Rainer. I added a couple of desired items to your list.

To collate the discussion, I added a ticket:

http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/8745

to record discussions there.

Please feel free to close the ticket if this is an wrong usage of a
ticket.

Cheers,

Rainer

>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefano
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Re: the dreaded docx export - WAS: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

[Rainer M Krug]

stefano franchi  writes:

> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
>
>> Ray Rashif  writes:
>>
>> > On 12 June 2013 03:57, stefano franchi 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Ray Rashif > >wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 11 June 2013 14:15, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I wanted to survey the LyX and LaTeX community for some opinions on
>> this,
>> >>> perhaps to get an idea as to the demand for some research into this
>> area.
>> >>> The project would do some empirical comparisons of the workarounds and
>> >>> propose at most two or three solutions that work (integration with
>> Pandoc,
>> >>> or converintg directly to a simpler and well-supported language).
>> >>>
>> >>> The emphasis would be on retaining as much semantic meaning as
>> possible,
>> >>> across different levels of complexity, starting from the very basic. I
>> am
>> >>> not aware of any similar academic or non-academic effort, but this
>> could
>> >>> also be a long blog post.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> HI Ray,
>> >>
>> >> I am not sure about what you're asking, exactly? Perhaps a survey of the
>> >> different lyx-doc(x) use cases that current lyx users care most about?
>> Or
>> >> rather a definition of the simplest yet still useful use case we can
>> >> imagine? If the former, I would suggest starting a page on our wiki,
>> >> perhaps as a possible GSoC 2014 project, as a repository of useful cases
>>
>> I think to start a wiki page to outline a possible GSoC 2014 project
>> would be a good idea.
>>
>>
> I created a page here: http://wiki.lyx.org/GSoC/GSoCProjectIdeasFor2014
> The first item on the page is "Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx
> formats "
> I entered a minimal description of what I take is both Rainer's and Ray's
> wishes.
> Could you guys expand it?

Thanks Stefano.

just added my ideas and my understanding[1]. Please add your ideas and
suggestions.

Cheers,

Rainer

>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefano



Footnotes: 
[1]  http://wiki.lyx.org/GSoC/GSoCProjectIdeasFor2014#toc1

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Re: the dreaded docx export - WAS: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

[stefano franchi]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:

> stefano franchi  writes:
>
> > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
> >
> >> Ray Rashif  writes:
> >>
> >> > On 12 June 2013 03:57, stefano franchi 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Ray Rashif  >> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 11 June 2013 14:15, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I wanted to survey the LyX and LaTeX community for some opinions on
> >> this,
> >> >>> perhaps to get an idea as to the demand for some research into this
> >> area.
> >> >>> The project would do some empirical comparisons of the workarounds
> and
> >> >>> propose at most two or three solutions that work (integration with
> >> Pandoc,
> >> >>> or converintg directly to a simpler and well-supported language).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The emphasis would be on retaining as much semantic meaning as
> >> possible,
> >> >>> across different levels of complexity, starting from the very
> basic. I
> >> am
> >> >>> not aware of any similar academic or non-academic effort, but this
> >> could
> >> >>> also be a long blog post.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> HI Ray,
> >> >>
> >> >> I am not sure about what you're asking, exactly? Perhaps a survey of
> the
> >> >> different lyx-doc(x) use cases that current lyx users care most
> about?
> >> Or
> >> >> rather a definition of the simplest yet still useful use case we can
> >> >> imagine? If the former, I would suggest starting a page on our wiki,
> >> >> perhaps as a possible GSoC 2014 project, as a repository of useful
> cases
> >>
> >> I think to start a wiki page to outline a possible GSoC 2014 project
> >> would be a good idea.
> >>
> >>
> > I created a page here: http://wiki.lyx.org/GSoC/GSoCProjectIdeasFor2014
> > The first item on the page is "Round trip conversion between LyX and
> .docx
> > formats "
> > I entered a minimal description of what I take is both Rainer's and Ray's
> > wishes.
> > Could you guys expand it?
>
> Thanks Stefano.
>
> just added my ideas and my understanding[1]. Please add your ideas and
> suggestions.
>
>

Thanks Rainer. I added a couple of desired items to your list.


Cheers,

Stefano
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Re: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

[Steve Litt]

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:59:00 +0200
Liviu Andronic  wrote:

> This is the goal of one of our GSoC projects this year:
> http://wiki.lyx.org/GSoC/NonLinearWriting and

Please tell the person doing the NonLinearWriting project that if he
needs to talk with an author of Discovery Fiction, he should feel free
to email me at my normal email address.

I could describe down to the smallest detail how I write nonfiction.
With fiction, all I can tell you is I get a general idea, do a lot of
walking and thinking, and on a hope and a prayer start writing, and
somehow the book gets written. That's really not much of an explanation
for a guy who is a champion of process and claims everyone should know
*how* they do things. Maybe he can learn from me, and maybe I can learn
from him.

Thanks,

SteveT

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Re: the dreaded docx export - WAS: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

[stefano franchi]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:

> Ray Rashif  writes:
>
> > On 12 June 2013 03:57, stefano franchi 
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Ray Rashif  >wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 11 June 2013 14:15, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I wanted to survey the LyX and LaTeX community for some opinions on
> this,
> >>> perhaps to get an idea as to the demand for some research into this
> area.
> >>> The project would do some empirical comparisons of the workarounds and
> >>> propose at most two or three solutions that work (integration with
> Pandoc,
> >>> or converintg directly to a simpler and well-supported language).
> >>>
> >>> The emphasis would be on retaining as much semantic meaning as
> possible,
> >>> across different levels of complexity, starting from the very basic. I
> am
> >>> not aware of any similar academic or non-academic effort, but this
> could
> >>> also be a long blog post.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> HI Ray,
> >>
> >> I am not sure about what you're asking, exactly? Perhaps a survey of the
> >> different lyx-doc(x) use cases that current lyx users care most about?
> Or
> >> rather a definition of the simplest yet still useful use case we can
> >> imagine? If the former, I would suggest starting a page on our wiki,
> >> perhaps as a possible GSoC 2014 project, as a repository of useful cases
>
> I think to start a wiki page to outline a possible GSoC 2014 project
> would be a good idea.
>
>
I created a page here: http://wiki.lyx.org/GSoC/GSoCProjectIdeasFor2014
The first item on the page is "Round trip conversion between LyX and .docx
formats "
I entered a minimal description of what I take is both Rainer's and Ray's
wishes.
Could you guys expand it?


Cheers,

Stefano
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Re: Place float:figure in this subparagraph

[Philipp Gröne]

Hello!

Thank you for your answers!

Paul Rubin wrote:

Short of manually inserting page breaks (and adjusting them whenever the
text changes), I do not think it is possible to do what you want and be
certain that you get the desired result.


After reading a bit further and asking friends which are more apt with  
LaTeX than me I realize that.


I had hoped for a fire-and-forget solution for all my graphs, but I will  
have to make adjustments for each.


I was still in the WYSIWYG-workflow, and wanted everything to look  
correctly while still writing.
Instead, I will now concentrate on finishing my text and making it look  
good after I finished.


Andrew wrote:
Have you tried a figure wrap float (Insert > Float > Figure Wrap Float)?  
This allows text to flow around a figure (provided the figure is not too  
big) and is generally attached to a paragraph (although it can float if  
"stressed").


I have tried it, but it didn't do what I had in mind, so I dismissed it as  
incorrect. I will keep it in mind if I typeset my work.


Greetings!
Ph.

Re: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

[Liviu Andronic]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Murat Yildizoglu  wrote:
> Isn't there already a working corkboard tool for Lyx (but I have never been
> able to test it), by Rob?
>
Yes, but it has never made its way to trunk. To my understanding the
goal of the GSoC project is to polish the outliner/corkboard code,
implement the missing bits and when ready merge with current trunk.

Liviu


>
> 2013/6/12 Liviu Andronic 
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke
>>  wrote:
>> > You can write a bestseller with a pencil or with vim/emacs. LyX could be
>> > a publishing environment producing high quality pdfs and ePubs ready for
>> > distribution. Our target group are not authors (have a look at
>> > Scrivener[1] to see what a program looks like that targets authors) but
>> > publishers.
>> >
>> This is the goal of one of our GSoC projects this year:
>> http://wiki.lyx.org/GSoC/NonLinearWriting and
>> http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SummerOfCode2013Ideas#toc5 .
>>
>> Liviu
>
>
>
>
> --
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>
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> Avenue Léon Duguit
> 33608 Pessac cedex
> France
>
> Bureau : E-331
>
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>
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Re: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Isn't there already a working corkboard tool for Lyx (but I have never been
able to test it), by Rob?


2013/6/12 Liviu Andronic 

> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke
>  wrote:
> > You can write a bestseller with a pencil or with vim/emacs. LyX could be
> > a publishing environment producing high quality pdfs and ePubs ready for
> > distribution. Our target group are not authors (have a look at
> > Scrivener[1] to see what a program looks like that targets authors) but
> > publishers.
> >
> This is the goal of one of our GSoC projects this year:
> http://wiki.lyx.org/GSoC/NonLinearWriting and
> http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SummerOfCode2013Ideas#toc5 .
>
> Liviu
>



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Re: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

[Jan Ulrich Hasecke]

Am 12.06.2013 10:59, schrieb Liviu Andronic:
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke
>  wrote:
>> You can write a bestseller with a pencil or with vim/emacs. LyX could be
>> a publishing environment producing high quality pdfs and ePubs ready for
>> distribution. Our target group are not authors (have a look at
>> Scrivener[1] to see what a program looks like that targets authors) but
>> publishers.
>>
> This is the goal of one of our GSoC projects this year:
> http://wiki.lyx.org/GSoC/NonLinearWriting and
> http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SummerOfCode2013Ideas#toc5 .

Great news! There is als AFAIK a GSoC project for better ePub support.
So my dreams might come true soon.

Thanks!
juh

Re: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

[Liviu Andronic]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke
 wrote:
> You can write a bestseller with a pencil or with vim/emacs. LyX could be
> a publishing environment producing high quality pdfs and ePubs ready for
> distribution. Our target group are not authors (have a look at
> Scrivener[1] to see what a program looks like that targets authors) but
> publishers.
>
This is the goal of one of our GSoC projects this year:
http://wiki.lyx.org/GSoC/NonLinearWriting and
http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/SummerOfCode2013Ideas#toc5 .

Liviu

Re: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

[Jan Ulrich Hasecke]

It is flattering to say, hey John Doe the great novelist is using LyX,
but much more important is another question.

Is LyX the right tool for a publisher who wants to publish printed books
and ebooks from the same source, which is what publishers want to do
today. At least this is what I want to do. ;-)

While there is no question concerning the typesetting quality of
LyX/LaTeX, I still have questions concerning ebooks. I listed them in
another thread.
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg95701.html

You can write a bestseller with a pencil or with vim/emacs. LyX could be
a publishing environment producing high quality pdfs and ePubs ready for
distribution. Our target group are not authors (have a look at
Scrivener[1] to see what a program looks like that targets authors) but
publishers.

Cheers!
juh

[1] http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php


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Re: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

[Liviu Andronic]

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 1:55 AM, Stephen George
 wrote:
> On 12/06/2013 1:02 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>
> of course he's right, but then he can google what DILLIGAF stands
> for :-)-O
>
> No he can't, with comments like
> "open source programs have great appeal for people who want to tinker with
> computers but almost none for those who actually want to do something."
>
> He would not be able to use Google as it is running open source programs,
> and he wouldn't use it as it's against his principles.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_platform
> "Servers are commodity-class x86 PCs running customized versions of Linux."
>
> Further to that, finding a book with good amazon ranking would also be
> useless, as Amazon is also running open source, so he also would NOT use
> that service.
> http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-275155.html
>
> In fact he probably doesn't do much web surfing with the open source Apache
> dominating the HTTP internet server market
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_HTTP_Server
> "Since April 1996 Apache has been the most popular HTTP server software in
> use. As of December 2012 Apache was estimated to serve 63.7% of all active
> websites and 58.49% of the top servers across all domains"
>
> There is a big chance the writers forum were he made those comments is also
> powered by an open source program.
>
Not to mention that he is probably surfing the web via Firefox or Chrome.

Liviu


> Sorry for the outburst, I just can't believe how polarised some people are
> against open source programs.
> Personally I dont think you should feed him with fuel, just let it drop and
> continue on with your own life using the programs you enjoy, I dont think
> you have anything to prove. (but I do understand the sense of outrage after
> hearing the comments)
>
> Steve
>



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Re: the dreaded docx export - WAS: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

[Rainer M Krug]

Ray Rashif  writes:

> On 12 June 2013 03:57, stefano franchi  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Ray Rashif wrote:
>>
>>> On 11 June 2013 14:15, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
>>>
>>> I wanted to survey the LyX and LaTeX community for some opinions on this,
>>> perhaps to get an idea as to the demand for some research into this area.
>>> The project would do some empirical comparisons of the workarounds and
>>> propose at most two or three solutions that work (integration with Pandoc,
>>> or converintg directly to a simpler and well-supported language).
>>>
>>> The emphasis would be on retaining as much semantic meaning as possible,
>>> across different levels of complexity, starting from the very basic. I am
>>> not aware of any similar academic or non-academic effort, but this could
>>> also be a long blog post.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> HI Ray,
>>
>> I am not sure about what you're asking, exactly? Perhaps a survey of the
>> different lyx-doc(x) use cases that current lyx users care most about? Or
>> rather a definition of the simplest yet still useful use case we can
>> imagine? If the former, I would suggest starting a page on our wiki,
>> perhaps as a possible GSoC 2014 project, as a repository of useful cases

I think to start a wiki page to outline a possible GSoC 2014 project
would be a good idea.

>> people could refer to. If the latter...well I'd need further info because
>> I'm not really sure what you're aiming for.
>>
>
> Hey Stefano
>
> Sorry for the lack of clarity there -- probably a mistake of dumping one or
> two things I had on my mind without context. I was referring to
> cross-platform document interoperability for collaborative writing and
> editing, not really LyX-specific but very much related, and not really a
> new issue.
>
> If there are people indeed affected by this, and they would like some
> documentation, then I'd like to put in some time to review current issues
> and strategies, and produce working code to convert a non-friendly format
> into a pluggable one (into LyX, LaTeX, Pandoc) for _only_ the use cases
> that matter most (according to the target audience; writers, editors,
> fiction or non-fiction).

Certainly I would be interested in having this info, as I am again have
to compile documents together with word users - and a collection of
strategies how to handle this would be very much welcome.

>
> Often times I have found myself dealing with only a subset of formatting
> tools during the first phase of a write-up, in most cases a draft, and I
> would often make the mistake of thinking they're simple enough to not break
> collaboration. I would assume many of our workflows start with sections,
> followed by emphasis (boldface and italics), then simple lists (itemized
> and enumerated), footnotes, and finally citations.


This boils down to what I discussed during the thread of LaTeX roundtrip
(unfortunately, I don't have it at hand, but can search if yu can't find
it): having one subset of features for roundtrips to other formats which
are supported. This should be done in a way, so that they can easiliy be
extended, and the general framework (definition and identification of
features supported) should be independent of the other partner in the
roundtrip (docx, latex, odt, ...). In addition, metadata about
non-converted features could be stored, and re-applied / added on the
re-import of the roundtrip.

Furthermore, there should also be an exporter to he format, which tries
to export the document as accurate as possible, but not usable for roundtrips.


>
> Personally I have never needed anything more complex like cross-references,
> tables and images -- I always schedule them for later phases because they
> interrupt the workflow, although I do make space for them informally (using
> characters I can easily search for). At the end of the day, what I have to
> deal with is a DOC or DOCX file with semantic comments (that are not
> understood by most other tools), no matter where or how I start.

Exactly - that is what is needed for the roundtrip. 

Cheers,

Rainer


>
> == TL;DR ==
> What I'd like is to solve for the missing input formats in e.g. Pandoc. It
> does not support RTF, DOC, or DOCX, but supports HTML, which Word does not
> output cleanly. Either way, it's something I have had in my mind for some
> time, but too busy to investigate or ask around methodically. Getting an
> idea of the demand for a solution in this case could force me to invest the
> time.
>
> Inspiration: http://gio.act.gov.au/2013/03/13/document-conversion-markdown/
>
>
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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Jayneil Dalal  wrote:
> 3. Regarding the version name, I thought "lyx live dvd" just sounded plain
> and simple and since 12.04.2 is LTS, I am probably not going to change that
> version.
>
I meant that a versioning scheme would be useful to indicate on which
distro the image is based on, and to show users that something has
changed. If the image is lyx.iso today and two years later it's still
lyx.iso, notwithstanding the nr of changes in between, chances are
that I won't bother try the newer version. But that's me.


> 4. Regarding including the daily ppa, I can spin another image and put in a
> separate project like "lyx live dvd- developer edition" as most people/users
> would want the stable releases. So, it would be better to have two different
> projects for it.
>
Both stable and devel PPAs can be used at the same time. Installations
of lyx (stable), lyx 2.0 or lyx 2.1 do not interfere with each other
on the same system, so it's safe to have them both on a single image.
I'm not sure it's worth the effort of a different image.

Regards,
Liviu


> Feel free to give your thoughts/feedback.
>
> Best,
>
> Jayneil.
>
>
>
>



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