Re: Index is not displayed

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 4/13/24 12:31, Andreas Plihal via lyx-users wrote:

Dear Herbert,
I think you are responding to an email from me that is already out of 
date.
Meanwhile I sent another file WME_Index.lyx, which uses the text 
processor texindy. Jürgen recommended it to me. Unfortunately that 
didn't work either.
I can't find the xindex processor you mentioned in my selection list. 
Instead I find xindy. Did you perhaps mean that? It doesn't work with 
xindy either.
Even if, as you suggested, I use makeindex as the processor and enter 
the option "-s german.ist" (Jürgen commented that he cannot find 
german.ist on his computer), the index is not displayed.


I have sometimes had trouble with the index not displaying the first 
time I export a file. If I change something trivial (add a space at the 
end of a paragraph, say) and re-export, then it appears.


One way to try to debug this would be to export the file to LaTeX and 
run everything manually. Or just launch LyX from a terminal, and watch 
the output when you export. Either should give you more information.


Riki

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Index is not displayed

[Andreas Plihal via lyx-users]

Dear Herbert, 

 

I think you are responding to an email from me that is already out of date. 

 

Meanwhile I sent another file WME_Index.lyx, which uses the text processor texindy. Jürgen recommended it to me. Unfortunately that didn't work either.

 

I can't find the xindex processor you mentioned in my selection list. Instead I find xindy. Did you perhaps mean that? It doesn't work with xindy either.

 

Even if, as you suggested, I use makeindex as the processor and enter the option "-s german.ist" (Jürgen commented that he cannot find german.ist on his computer), the index is not displayed.

 

I am very grateful for your other suggestions! I will be happy to implement them in time. But they probably have nothing to do with the index, which is my primary concern. So I can do that at a later time, right?

 

Andreas

 
 

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Am 13.04.24 um 10:17 schrieb Andreas Plihal via lyx-users:
> Sorry - I included the wrong file. The file that I am now attaching
> also matches the text that I wrote in my first email. In this version
> the index does not work.

In your preamble you have
- \emergencystretch 1.5em

This is _not_ a good idea. Should only be used in _rare cases_ if TeX is not
able to justify a paragraph. Then you can use instead

\begin{sloppypar}
text...
\end{sloppypar}

With a global setting of emergencystretch you get Word-like documents ...

- \setlength{\parskip}{\medskipamount}

\setlength{\parindent}{0pt}

This is nonsense for KOMAScript documents. Use the optional class setting

parskip=half-



- You are using the font LinixLibertine which is for ages
obsolet. Use
Libertinus Serif and Libertinus Sans instead.


- For your options of your makeindex you have:

-s german.ist -t MWE_Index.ilg -o MWE_Index.idx

That's wrong! You define -o MWE_Index.idx as output file, the reason
why you overwrite the input datafile, which is by default MWE_Index.idx.
Use only

-s german.ist

oder simply xindex as Indexprocessor with optional argument

-l de


Herbert


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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing + bits and pieces

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 4/13/24 03:00, Bernt Lie wrote:

So far,...
* I greatly appreciate that you have not changed the main parts of the user 
interface. I hate it when developers come out with a new version of a tool, and 
the user doesn't recognize where the menus are, etc.


I think it's fair to say that we do, too. It's our policy to change such 
things only when there is a clear reason to do so, and consensus among 
the developers, at least.



* These are the main things I have had time to notice in some 3 days, while 
converting a large portion of my key documents from v. 2.3.x to v. 2.4
--

As a person who combines text with loads of math and computer code...
* The Program Listing settings ---
--> Do I set them individually every time I insert a program listing?
--> Or are they document settings, so that if I change one setting (e.g., font 
setting), then this takes precedence for the entire document?


You can make global settings in Document> Settings> Listings.


Also, I'm using a couple of computer languages that are not supported by 
Program Listing...
* Modelica (for specifying mathematical models)
* Julia

Is there an ASCII file where it is possible to add specifications for more 
computer languages so that they show up in the Program Listing settings?


Unfortunately, that is hard-coded. It would make a lot of sense for it 
not to be, but be configurable, but that would take some doing (though I 
doubt it would be hard to do). But it would be a format change, so not 
doable until 2.5. But please do file an enhancement request if you wish.


Riki


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Re: Index is not displayed

[Herbert Voss]

Am 13.04.24 um 10:17 schrieb Andreas Plihal via lyx-users:
Sorry - I included the wrong file. The file that I am now attaching 
also matches the text that I wrote in my first email. In this version 
the index does not work.


In your preamble you have
- \emergencystretch 1.5em

This is _not_ a good idea. Should only be used in _rare cases_ if TeX is not
able to justify a paragraph. Then you can use instead

\begin{sloppypar}
text...
\end{sloppypar}

With a global setting of emergencystretch you get Word-like documents ...

- \setlength{\parskip}{\medskipamount}

\setlength{\parindent}{0pt}

This is nonsense for KOMAScript documents. Use the optional class setting

parskip=half-



- You are using the font LinixLibertine which is for ages 
obsolet. Use

Libertinus Serif and Libertinus Sans instead.


- For your options of your makeindex you have:

-s german.ist -t MWE_Index.ilg -o MWE_Index.idx

That's wrong! You define -o MWE_Index.idx as output file, the reason
why you overwrite the input datafile, which is by default MWE_Index.idx.
Use only

-s german.ist

oder simply xindex as Indexprocessor with optional argument

-l de


Herbert
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Index is not displayed

[Andreas Plihal via lyx-users]

Sorry - I included the wrong file. The file that I am now attaching also matches the text that I wrote in my first email. In this version the index does not work.

 

So that we talk about the same thing :) 

 

Andreas

 

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3. Re: Adding Languages to LyX on Mac (Kornel Benko)
4. Index is not displayed (Andreas Plihal)


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Am Dienstag, dem 02.04.2024 um 14:54 +0200 schrieb Andreas Plihal via
lyx-users:
> I'm working on a book (KOMA-Script). Three years ago, a similar LYX
> document worked without any problems.
> But now the index is no longer displayed to me.
> ?
> Based on advice from the community (J?rgen) at the time, I chose
> texindy as the index generator.

But in the file, you have makeindex, not texindy.

> So far I have entered the following options in the settings:
> -L german-duden -C utf8 --module "C:\Program Files\MiKTeX
> 2.9\xindy\modules\base\numalpha"

I see this in your settings:

-s german.ist -t MWE_Index.ilg -o MWE_Index.idx


of these, german.ist does not exist at least on my system, and "-o
MWE_Index.idx" looks superfluous.

Removing these two arguments, i.e. reducing it all to
-t MWE_Index.ilg

gives me the index in output.

HTH,
--
J?rgen


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Hi all,

I recently downloaded LyX for documents in math classes in University. I
work with a mac, and the program is terrific so far in English.

How do I download/add another language to LyX (on a Mac) in order to create
documents in a different language other than English?

Thanks,

Ami
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Am Thu, 4 Apr 2024 09:06:34 +0300
schrieb Ami Stein :

> Hi all,
>
> I recently downloaded LyX for documents in math classes in University. I
> work with a mac, and the program is terrific so far in English.
>
> How do I download/add another language to LyX (on a Mac) in order to create
> documents in a different language other than English?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ami

You can change the document language. See the panell
Document->Settings...->Language
and select from the drop-down languages.

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RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing + bits and pieces

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

A difference - perhaps -- between a missing Abstract label and the Chapter 
label in *LyX* is that sections headings are quite big compared to the standard 
text, so it is easy to see the difference. While the abstract text font is only 
marginally smaller than the standard text font, so it is more difficult to see 
what it is.

*If* one sets "abstract=on" to enforce "Abstract" to be printed in the PDF 
file, it would perhaps be natural if this text also shows up in LyX.
--
Anyways, this is not a major problem -- I can always switch to the standard 
article style.
--
Thanks a lot for your great job with creating v. 2.4. I really appreciate all 
the work you have put into it, and look forward to start reading the manuals. 
Although I've used LyX for some 10 years or so, I think it will be useful to 
re-read the documentation to better familiarize myself with what is new.

So far,...
* I greatly appreciate that you have not changed the main parts of the user 
interface. I hate it when developers come out with a new version of a tool, and 
the user doesn't recognize where the menus are, etc.

* I have already used the improved system for finding missing citations and 
broken references.

* The search system looks improved.

* These are the main things I have had time to notice in some 3 days, while 
converting a large portion of my key documents from v. 2.3.x to v. 2.4
--

As a person who combines text with loads of math and computer code...
* The Program Listing settings ---
--> Do I set them individually every time I insert a program listing?
--> Or are they document settings, so that if I change one setting (e.g., font 
setting), then this takes precedence for the entire document?
--> The above question is related to how to keep consistency in listings...

Also, I'm using a couple of computer languages that are not supported by 
Program Listing...
* Modelica (for specifying mathematical models)
* Julia

Is there an ASCII file where it is possible to add specifications for more 
computer languages so that they show up in the Program Listing settings?



-Original Message-
From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of Richard Kimberly 
Heck
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 10:02 PM
To: Herbert Voss ; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

On 4/12/24 12:42, Herbert Voss wrote:
> Am 12.04.24 um 13:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users:
>> Aha! It only adds "Abstract" to the PDF file when using KOMA-script, 
>> not in the LyX editor itself!
>>
>> For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX 
>> editor by default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if 
>> the same happened when using KOMA-script.
>
> It is easy to add the abstract part into the LyX layout file of the 
> scrartcl class or creating an own layout file.

For some reason, scrclass.inc explicitly removes the heading:

Input stdstruct.inc

Style Abstract
     LabelType No_Label
End

If we're agreed that's wrong, it's easy enough to fix.

Riki


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