Re: lyx in arabic or persian

[Bob Merhebi]

On Thu 14 Feb 2013 05:53:30 AM EET, Parastoo Mojabi wrote:
 Thank you so much Stefano, mine is working

 I installed texlive-lang-arabic
 reconfigured lyx
 then
 1. Start LyX, then in Tools -- Preferences go to Language Settings and
 select Language. Change *Command start* to *\selectlanguage{arabic}*, and
 change *Language package* to Custom, and enter*
 \usepackage[farsi,arabic]{babel}* in the provided textfield.

 2. Still in Tools -- Preferences, go to Output and select LaTeX, then
 change *Use LaTeX font encoding* to *LAE,LFE* in the provided textfield.

 3. Still in Tools -- Preferences, go to Editing and under Keyboard/Mouse
 check the *Use keyboard map* option and for *First* select farsi from the
 *.kmap files that are shown when hitting the Browse button.

 4. Hit the Save button in the Preferences window then restart LyX.

 5. Once you've re-opened LyX, open a new document then go to Document --
 Settings, and under *Document Class* select *article (Arabic)* from the
 list..

 6. Still in Document -- Settings, go to Language and select *Arabic (Arab
 TeX)* as the *Language*, then change *Encoding* to Other and select *Unicode
 (utf8)* as the encoding, then select *None* for the*Language package*
  option.

 7. Hit the Apply button then close the Document Settings window

 8. Now enter text in your document (which should be going from right to
 left now), save the file as a LyX file, then select File -- Export -- PDF
 (pdflatex). You should get a PDF with Arabic in it.


 and now its working.

 Thank you so much.







 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:11 AM, stefano franchi
 stefano.fran...@gmail.comwrote:




 On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Bob Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I'm joining you guys regarding writing Arabic in LyX. I know Arabic 
 some LyX so I guess I can help.

 So far I have not used Arabic in LyX.

 On 02/12/2013 10:09 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 I have no knowledge of Arabic, unfortunately, but following the
 instructions on the wiki seems to work for me, including right-to-left
 typing:

 Right-to-Left is not enough; Arabic is a complex language which requires
 connecting letters and glyph formation. Here's an example from Scribus
 which has been open for a long time  still not resolved (not sure why):
 http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=1079


 Cannot help here. I'm aware of the complexities of Arabic script, but I
 have no means to check if lyx (or, rather, Tex) gets it right. Sorry.


 http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Arabic
 It requires:

 1. Setting the document class to Article(Arabic)

 Doesn't exist in my installation:

 LyX 2.0.5.1 (2012-11-03)
 Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (x86_64)

 It appears to be part of the package: texlive-langextra
 which doesn't seem to be in Ubuntu

 Running apt-cache search texlive results in finding:

 texlive-lang-arabic - TeX Live: Arabic


 This is a problem with Ubuntu (and Mint, which is Ubuntu based). In fact
 it is a problem with all Debian-based distros, as far as I know. The
 problem is that their packaged version of tex are:

 (1) Broken up in several packages, and the user often does not know which
 are required ofr the task at hand

 (2) Often well behind officially distributed versions. (When I stopped
 using Ubuntu it was 2 years behind.)

 My, very personal, recommendation is to stop using the Ubuntu-packaged
 version of tex and install manually Texlive instead. It used to be a
 complicated to manage your own Tex installation. Now that Texlive comes
 with its own distribution manager (called tlmgr --- tex live manager), it
 is much simpler
 However, I do understand that other users may have different preferences,



 Installing it didn't change anything in LyX. Still no Article[Arabic]!



 Every time you install a new latex package you need to reconfigure Lyx and
 restart it. Otherwise Lyx cannot use the newly installed package.



 I guess we need ArabTex:
 http://www2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/ivi/bs/research/arab_e.htm



 In this I need help; I prefer to use Ubuntu's repositories unless it is
 not possible at all.



 Arabtex should be in the package you installed: 
 texlive-lang-arabhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/texlive-lang-arab
 .Otherwise, you can install it from CTAN:

 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/language/arabtex

 (Or with the tex manager I mentioned above if you switch to your own
 texlive installation).

 If you install it  manually, remember that you must run texhash as a
 superuser afterwards. That is, you must open a terminal window and type the
 command
 sudo texhash



 Try looking for a file called arabart.cls and see if you can find it in
 your system.
 Which platform are you on? Linux, Mac, Windows? Instructions for the
 installation of missing packages vary  depending on the platform.

 Not sure what parastoo is using as his system but mine is as stated above.


 His system is Linux Mint, which is similar to Ubuntu. Hence he has the
 same problem as your.


 Cheers,

 Stefano

Re: lyx in arabic or persian

[Bob Merhebi]

Thanks, I'll try that.

On Thu 14 Feb 2013 05:49:25 PM EET, stefano franchi wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Bob Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu 14 Feb 2013 05:53:30 AM EET, Parastoo Mojabi wrote:
 Thank you so much Stefano, mine is working

 Stefano: Can't these settings be integrated into a single-button LyX
 option?


 Well, there seem to be two separate issues:

 1. Having a linux/Tex installation that includes proper support for Arabic
 editing

 2. Configuring Lyx properly to take advantage of the properly set up Tex
 system.


 I don't think (1) can be automated by Lyx/Linux. Lyx expect a properly
 configured system and it does not have the means to automatically install
 missing packages (as MikTeX does on Windows).

 As for (2), have you tried saving a template with all the proper settings?
 That is, once you have a document that works in Lyx the way you want it,
 delete all the text and save it as a template. From that moment on you can
 choose New from template when starting a new Arabic document.

 I am not sure all the settings would be saved though. Others may know more
 about this.



 I'll look more about tlmgr to see how it interacts with the Ubuntu
 system, if at all. I guess it is similar to Python's easy_install. If
 you've got some references about it (related to Debian/Ubuntu), kindly
 let me know.



 As Gunter reports in his message, Ubuntu seems to have solved its problems
 with Texlive.

 So I guess the apt-file tool is all you need.


 Moreover, do you guys mind if I made a blog post about this?



 Surely not. I would also suggest checking the lyx wiki page for Arabic and
 updating if it does not reflect your experience.

 Cheers,

 Stefano



-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: lyx in arabic or persian

[Bob Merhebi]

On Thu 14 Feb 2013 05:53:30 AM EET, Parastoo Mojabi wrote:
 Thank you so much Stefano, mine is working

 I installed texlive-lang-arabic
 reconfigured lyx
 then
 1. Start LyX, then in Tools -- Preferences go to Language Settings and
 select Language. Change *Command start* to *\selectlanguage{arabic}*, and
 change *Language package* to Custom, and enter*
 \usepackage[farsi,arabic]{babel}* in the provided textfield.

 2. Still in Tools -- Preferences, go to Output and select LaTeX, then
 change *Use LaTeX font encoding* to *LAE,LFE* in the provided textfield.

 3. Still in Tools -- Preferences, go to Editing and under Keyboard/Mouse
 check the *Use keyboard map* option and for *First* select farsi from the
 *.kmap files that are shown when hitting the Browse button.

 4. Hit the Save button in the Preferences window then restart LyX.

 5. Once you've re-opened LyX, open a new document then go to Document --
 Settings, and under *Document Class* select *article (Arabic)* from the
 list..

 6. Still in Document -- Settings, go to Language and select *Arabic (Arab
 TeX)* as the *Language*, then change *Encoding* to Other and select *Unicode
 (utf8)* as the encoding, then select *None* for the*Language package*
  option.

 7. Hit the Apply button then close the Document Settings window

 8. Now enter text in your document (which should be going from right to
 left now), save the file as a LyX file, then select File -- Export -- PDF
 (pdflatex). You should get a PDF with Arabic in it.


 and now its working.

 Thank you so much.







 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:11 AM, stefano franchi
 stefano.fran...@gmail.comwrote:




 On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Bob Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I'm joining you guys regarding writing Arabic in LyX. I know Arabic 
 some LyX so I guess I can help.

 So far I have not used Arabic in LyX.

 On 02/12/2013 10:09 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 I have no knowledge of Arabic, unfortunately, but following the
 instructions on the wiki seems to work for me, including right-to-left
 typing:

 Right-to-Left is not enough; Arabic is a complex language which requires
 connecting letters and glyph formation. Here's an example from Scribus
 which has been open for a long time  still not resolved (not sure why):
 http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=1079


 Cannot help here. I'm aware of the complexities of Arabic script, but I
 have no means to check if lyx (or, rather, Tex) gets it right. Sorry.


 http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Arabic
 It requires:

 1. Setting the document class to Article(Arabic)

 Doesn't exist in my installation:

 LyX 2.0.5.1 (2012-11-03)
 Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (x86_64)

 It appears to be part of the package: texlive-langextra
 which doesn't seem to be in Ubuntu

 Running apt-cache search texlive results in finding:

 texlive-lang-arabic - TeX Live: Arabic


 This is a problem with Ubuntu (and Mint, which is Ubuntu based). In fact
 it is a problem with all Debian-based distros, as far as I know. The
 problem is that their packaged version of tex are:

 (1) Broken up in several packages, and the user often does not know which
 are required ofr the task at hand

 (2) Often well behind officially distributed versions. (When I stopped
 using Ubuntu it was 2 years behind.)

 My, very personal, recommendation is to stop using the Ubuntu-packaged
 version of tex and install manually Texlive instead. It used to be a
 complicated to manage your own Tex installation. Now that Texlive comes
 with its own distribution manager (called tlmgr --- tex live manager), it
 is much simpler
 However, I do understand that other users may have different preferences,



 Installing it didn't change anything in LyX. Still no Article[Arabic]!



 Every time you install a new latex package you need to reconfigure Lyx and
 restart it. Otherwise Lyx cannot use the newly installed package.



 I guess we need ArabTex:
 http://www2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/ivi/bs/research/arab_e.htm



 In this I need help; I prefer to use Ubuntu's repositories unless it is
 not possible at all.



 Arabtex should be in the package you installed: 
 texlive-lang-arabhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/texlive-lang-arab
 .Otherwise, you can install it from CTAN:

 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/language/arabtex

 (Or with the tex manager I mentioned above if you switch to your own
 texlive installation).

 If you install it  manually, remember that you must run texhash as a
 superuser afterwards. That is, you must open a terminal window and type the
 command
 sudo texhash



 Try looking for a file called arabart.cls and see if you can find it in
 your system.
 Which platform are you on? Linux, Mac, Windows? Instructions for the
 installation of missing packages vary  depending on the platform.

 Not sure what parastoo is using as his system but mine is as stated above.


 His system is Linux Mint, which is similar to Ubuntu. Hence he has the
 same problem as your.


 Cheers,

 Stefano

Re: lyx in arabic or persian

[Bob Merhebi]

Thanks, I'll try that.

On Thu 14 Feb 2013 05:49:25 PM EET, stefano franchi wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Bob Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu 14 Feb 2013 05:53:30 AM EET, Parastoo Mojabi wrote:
 Thank you so much Stefano, mine is working

 Stefano: Can't these settings be integrated into a single-button LyX
 option?


 Well, there seem to be two separate issues:

 1. Having a linux/Tex installation that includes proper support for Arabic
 editing

 2. Configuring Lyx properly to take advantage of the properly set up Tex
 system.


 I don't think (1) can be automated by Lyx/Linux. Lyx expect a properly
 configured system and it does not have the means to automatically install
 missing packages (as MikTeX does on Windows).

 As for (2), have you tried saving a template with all the proper settings?
 That is, once you have a document that works in Lyx the way you want it,
 delete all the text and save it as a template. From that moment on you can
 choose New from template when starting a new Arabic document.

 I am not sure all the settings would be saved though. Others may know more
 about this.



 I'll look more about tlmgr to see how it interacts with the Ubuntu
 system, if at all. I guess it is similar to Python's easy_install. If
 you've got some references about it (related to Debian/Ubuntu), kindly
 let me know.



 As Gunter reports in his message, Ubuntu seems to have solved its problems
 with Texlive.

 So I guess the apt-file tool is all you need.


 Moreover, do you guys mind if I made a blog post about this?



 Surely not. I would also suggest checking the lyx wiki page for Arabic and
 updating if it does not reflect your experience.

 Cheers,

 Stefano



-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: lyx in arabic or persian

[Bob Merhebi]

On Thu 14 Feb 2013 05:53:30 AM EET, Parastoo Mojabi wrote:
> Thank you so much Stefano, mine is working
>
> I installed texlive-lang-arabic
> reconfigured lyx
> then
> 1. Start LyX, then in Tools --> Preferences go to Language Settings and
> select Language. Change *Command start* to *\selectlanguage{arabic}*, and
> change *Language package* to Custom, and enter*
> \usepackage[farsi,arabic]{babel}* in the provided textfield.
>
> 2. Still in Tools --> Preferences, go to Output and select LaTeX, then
> change *Use LaTeX font encoding* to *LAE,LFE* in the provided textfield.
>
> 3. Still in Tools --> Preferences, go to Editing and under Keyboard/Mouse
> check the *Use keyboard map* option and for *First* select farsi from the
> *.kmap files that are shown when hitting the Browse button.
>
> 4. Hit the Save button in the Preferences window then restart LyX.
>
> 5. Once you've re-opened LyX, open a new document then go to Document -->
> Settings, and under *Document Class* select *article (Arabic)* from the
> list..
>
> 6. Still in Document --> Settings, go to Language and select *Arabic (Arab
> TeX)* as the *Language*, then change *Encoding* to Other and select *Unicode
> (utf8)* as the encoding, then select *None* for the*Language package*
>  option.
>
> 7. Hit the Apply button then close the Document Settings window
>
> 8. Now enter text in your document (which should be going from right to
> left now), save the file as a LyX file, then select File --> Export --> PDF
> (pdflatex). You should get a PDF with Arabic in it.
>
>
> and now its working.
>
> Thank you so much.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:11 AM, stefano franchi
> <stefano.fran...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Bob Merhebi <bobmerh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I'm joining you guys regarding writing Arabic in LyX. I know Arabic &
>>> some LyX so I guess I can help.
>>>
>>> So far I have not used Arabic in LyX.
>>>
>>> On 02/12/2013 10:09 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
>>>> I have no knowledge of Arabic, unfortunately, but following the
>>>> instructions on the wiki seems to work for me, including right-to-left
>>>> typing:
>>>
>>> Right-to-Left is not enough; Arabic is a complex language which requires
>>> connecting letters and glyph formation. Here's an example from Scribus
>>> which has been open for a long time & still not resolved (not sure why):
>>> http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=1079
>>>
>>>
>> Cannot help here. I'm aware of the complexities of Arabic script, but I
>> have no means to check if lyx (or, rather, Tex) gets it right. Sorry.
>>
>>
>>>> http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Arabic
>>>> It requires:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Setting the document class to Article(Arabic)
>>>
>>> Doesn't exist in my installation:
>>>
>>> LyX 2.0.5.1 (2012-11-03)
>>> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (x86_64)
>>>
>>> It appears to be part of the package: texlive-langextra
>>> which doesn't seem to be in Ubuntu
>>>
>>> Running "apt-cache search texlive" results in finding:
>>>
>>> texlive-lang-arabic - TeX Live: Arabic
>>>
>>>
>> This is a problem with Ubuntu (and Mint, which is Ubuntu based). In fact
>> it is a problem with all Debian-based distros, as far as I know. The
>> problem is that their packaged version of tex are:
>>
>> (1) Broken up in several packages, and the user often does not know which
>> are required ofr the task at hand
>>
>> (2) Often well behind officially distributed versions. (When I stopped
>> using Ubuntu it was 2 years behind.)
>>
>> My, very personal, recommendation is to stop using the Ubuntu-packaged
>> version of tex and install manually Texlive instead. It used to be a
>> complicated to manage your own Tex installation. Now that Texlive comes
>> with its own distribution manager (called tlmgr --- tex live manager), it
>> is much simpler
>> However, I do understand that other users may have different preferences,
>>
>>
>>
>>> Installing it didn't change anything in LyX. Still no Article[Arabic]!
>>>
>>
>>
>> Every time you install a new latex package you need to reconfigure Lyx and
>> restart it. Otherwise Lyx cannot use the newly installed package.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I guess we need ArabTex:
>>> http://www2.informatik.uni-st

Re: lyx in arabic or persian

[Bob Merhebi]

Thanks, I'll try that.

On Thu 14 Feb 2013 05:49:25 PM EET, stefano franchi wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Bob Merhebi <bobmerh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu 14 Feb 2013 05:53:30 AM EET, Parastoo Mojabi wrote:
>>> Thank you so much Stefano, mine is working
>>>
>> Stefano: Can't these settings be integrated into a single-button LyX
>> option?
>>
>>
> Well, there seem to be two separate issues:
>
> 1. Having a linux/Tex installation that includes proper support for Arabic
> editing
>
> 2. Configuring Lyx properly to take advantage of the properly set up Tex
> system.
>
>
> I don't think (1) can be automated by Lyx/Linux. Lyx expect a properly
> configured system and it does not have the means to automatically install
> missing packages (as MikTeX does on Windows).
>
> As for (2), have you tried saving a template with all the proper settings?
> That is, once you have a document that works in Lyx the way you want it,
> delete all the text and save it as a template. From that moment on you can
> choose "New from template" when starting a new Arabic document.
>
> I am not sure all the settings would be saved though. Others may know more
> about this.
>
>
>
>> I'll look more about tlmgr to see how it interacts with the Ubuntu
>> system, if at all. I guess it is similar to Python's easy_install. If
>> you've got some references about it (related to Debian/Ubuntu), kindly
>> let me know.
>>
>>
>
> As Gunter reports in his message, Ubuntu seems to have solved its problems
> with Texlive.
>
> So I guess the apt-file tool is all you need.
>
>
>> Moreover, do you guys mind if I made a blog post about this?
>>
>>
>
> Surely not. I would also suggest checking the lyx wiki page for Arabic and
> updating if it does not reflect your experience.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefano
>


-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: lyx in arabic or persian

[Bob Merhebi]

Hello all,

I'm joining you guys regarding writing Arabic in LyX. I know Arabic 
some LyX so I guess I can help.

So far I have not used Arabic in LyX.

On 02/12/2013 10:09 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 I have no knowledge of Arabic, unfortunately, but following the
 instructions on the wiki seems to work for me, including right-to-left
 typing:

Right-to-Left is not enough; Arabic is a complex language which requires
connecting letters and glyph formation. Here's an example from Scribus
which has been open for a long time  still not resolved (not sure why):
http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=1079

 http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Arabic
 It requires:
 
 1. Setting the document class to Article(Arabic)

Doesn't exist in my installation:

LyX 2.0.5.1 (2012-11-03)
Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (x86_64)

 2. Choosing Arabic from DocumentSettingsLanguage, as Guy said
 3. Installing Arabic fonts for correct display in Lyx (the pdf would be
 fine without them, them)
 
 If you do not have article[Arabic] in the DocumentSettings dropdown menu,
 there may be something missing in your latex installation.

The only relevant Arabic files I found are:

/usr/share/lyx/kbd/arabic.kmap
/usr/share/lyx/layouts/arab-article.layout
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/generic/genmisc/arabic.tex
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/bezos/arabicfront.sty
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/minitoc/arab.mld
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/minitoc/arab2.mld
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/minitoc/arabi.mld
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/minitoc/arabic.mld

Maybe the 2nd is relecant?

 The
 article(Arabic) option uses the arabart.cls document class, which, on my TL
 2012 linux system, lives in
 
 /usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/latex/arabtex/arabart.cls
 
Nothing of this sort!

It appears to be part of the package: texlive-langextra
which doesn't seem to be in Ubuntu

Running apt-cache search texlive results in finding:

texlive-lang-arabic - TeX Live: Arabic

Installing it didn't change anything in LyX. Still no Article[Arabic]!

I guess we need ArabTex:
http://www2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/ivi/bs/research/arab_e.htm

In this I need help; I prefer to use Ubuntu's repositories unless it is
not possible at all.

 Try looking for a file called arabart.cls and see if you can find it in
 your system.
 Which platform are you on? Linux, Mac, Windows? Instructions for the
 installation of missing packages vary  depending on the platform.

Not sure what parastoo is using as his system but mine is as stated above.

 
 Cheers,
 
 Stefano
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Guy Rutenberg guyrutenb...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Hi Parastoo,

 I've no experience using LyX with Arabic or Farsi, so I only guess. Have
 you set the language correctly in Document-Settings-Language? At least
 for Hebrew it's necessary.

 Regards,

 Guy


 On 31 January 2013 00:05, Parastoo Mojabi parastoo.moj...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Parastoo Mojabi 
 parastoo.moj...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi,

 hope you are doing great.

 I have difficulties making lyx in Farsi, I did as the internet saying,
 but article[arabic] is un available in my document class, I paste
 article-arabic.layout. every where but still doesnt work.
 now my document is left to right which i wanted to be right to left and
 the letters of arabic showing is wrong.

 please help me

 cheers


-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: lyx in arabic or persian

[Bob Merhebi]

Hello all,

I'm joining you guys regarding writing Arabic in LyX. I know Arabic 
some LyX so I guess I can help.

So far I have not used Arabic in LyX.

On 02/12/2013 10:09 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
 I have no knowledge of Arabic, unfortunately, but following the
 instructions on the wiki seems to work for me, including right-to-left
 typing:

Right-to-Left is not enough; Arabic is a complex language which requires
connecting letters and glyph formation. Here's an example from Scribus
which has been open for a long time  still not resolved (not sure why):
http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=1079

 http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Arabic
 It requires:
 
 1. Setting the document class to Article(Arabic)

Doesn't exist in my installation:

LyX 2.0.5.1 (2012-11-03)
Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (x86_64)

 2. Choosing Arabic from DocumentSettingsLanguage, as Guy said
 3. Installing Arabic fonts for correct display in Lyx (the pdf would be
 fine without them, them)
 
 If you do not have article[Arabic] in the DocumentSettings dropdown menu,
 there may be something missing in your latex installation.

The only relevant Arabic files I found are:

/usr/share/lyx/kbd/arabic.kmap
/usr/share/lyx/layouts/arab-article.layout
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/generic/genmisc/arabic.tex
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/bezos/arabicfront.sty
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/minitoc/arab.mld
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/minitoc/arab2.mld
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/minitoc/arabi.mld
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/minitoc/arabic.mld

Maybe the 2nd is relecant?

 The
 article(Arabic) option uses the arabart.cls document class, which, on my TL
 2012 linux system, lives in
 
 /usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/latex/arabtex/arabart.cls
 
Nothing of this sort!

It appears to be part of the package: texlive-langextra
which doesn't seem to be in Ubuntu

Running apt-cache search texlive results in finding:

texlive-lang-arabic - TeX Live: Arabic

Installing it didn't change anything in LyX. Still no Article[Arabic]!

I guess we need ArabTex:
http://www2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/ivi/bs/research/arab_e.htm

In this I need help; I prefer to use Ubuntu's repositories unless it is
not possible at all.

 Try looking for a file called arabart.cls and see if you can find it in
 your system.
 Which platform are you on? Linux, Mac, Windows? Instructions for the
 installation of missing packages vary  depending on the platform.

Not sure what parastoo is using as his system but mine is as stated above.

 
 Cheers,
 
 Stefano
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Guy Rutenberg guyrutenb...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Hi Parastoo,

 I've no experience using LyX with Arabic or Farsi, so I only guess. Have
 you set the language correctly in Document-Settings-Language? At least
 for Hebrew it's necessary.

 Regards,

 Guy


 On 31 January 2013 00:05, Parastoo Mojabi parastoo.moj...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Parastoo Mojabi 
 parastoo.moj...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi,

 hope you are doing great.

 I have difficulties making lyx in Farsi, I did as the internet saying,
 but article[arabic] is un available in my document class, I paste
 article-arabic.layout. every where but still doesnt work.
 now my document is left to right which i wanted to be right to left and
 the letters of arabic showing is wrong.

 please help me

 cheers


-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: lyx in arabic or persian

[Bob Merhebi]

Hello all,

I'm joining you guys regarding writing Arabic in LyX. I know Arabic &
some LyX so I guess I can help.

So far I have not used Arabic in LyX.

On 02/12/2013 10:09 PM, stefano franchi wrote:
> I have no knowledge of Arabic, unfortunately, but following the
> instructions on the wiki seems to work for me, including right-to-left
> typing:

Right-to-Left is not enough; Arabic is a complex language which requires
connecting letters and glyph formation. Here's an example from Scribus
which has been open for a long time & still not resolved (not sure why):
http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=1079

> http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Arabic
> It requires:
> 
> 1. Setting the document class to Article(Arabic)

Doesn't exist in my installation:

LyX 2.0.5.1 (2012-11-03)
Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (x86_64)

> 2. Choosing "Arabic" from Document>>Settings>>Language, as Guy said
> 3. Installing Arabic fonts for correct display in Lyx (the pdf would be
> fine without them, them)
> 
> If you do not have article[Arabic] in the Document>>Settings dropdown menu,
> there may be something missing in your latex installation.

The only relevant Arabic files I found are:

/usr/share/lyx/kbd/arabic.kmap
/usr/share/lyx/layouts/arab-article.layout
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/generic/genmisc/arabic.tex
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/bezos/arabicfront.sty
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/minitoc/arab.mld
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/minitoc/arab2.mld
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/minitoc/arabi.mld
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/minitoc/arabic.mld

Maybe the 2nd is relecant?

 The
> article(Arabic) option uses the arabart.cls document class, which, on my TL
> 2012 linux system, lives in
> 
> /usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/latex/arabtex/arabart.cls
> 
Nothing of this sort!

It appears to be part of the package: texlive-langextra
which doesn't seem to be in Ubuntu

Running "apt-cache search texlive" results in finding:

texlive-lang-arabic - TeX Live: Arabic

Installing it didn't change anything in LyX. Still no Article[Arabic]!

I guess we need ArabTex:
http://www2.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/ivi/bs/research/arab_e.htm

In this I need help; I prefer to use Ubuntu's repositories unless it is
not possible at all.

> Try looking for a file called arabart.cls and see if you can find it in
> your system.
> Which platform are you on? Linux, Mac, Windows? Instructions for the
> installation of missing packages vary  depending on the platform.

Not sure what parastoo is using as his system but mine is as stated above.

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Stefano
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Guy Rutenberg wrote:
> 
>> Hi Parastoo,
>>
>> I've no experience using LyX with Arabic or Farsi, so I only guess. Have
>> you set the language correctly in Document->Settings->Language? At least
>> for Hebrew it's necessary.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Guy
>>
>>
>> On 31 January 2013 00:05, Parastoo Mojabi wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Parastoo Mojabi <
>>> parastoo.moj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 hi,

 hope you are doing great.

 I have difficulties making lyx in Farsi, I did as the internet saying,
 but article[arabic] is un available in my document class, I paste
 article-arabic.layout. every where but still doesnt work.
 now my document is left to right which i wanted to be right to left and
 the letters of arabic showing is wrong.

 please help me

 cheers


-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Change text color in output!

[Bob Merhebi]

Hello there,

I am using the

Text Style  Customized  Color

to change the color text. I am using this to bring attention to specific
words in the document for further correction.

But counter to what I thought, the colors do not make it to the pdf; i
believe the colors are for internal lyx editing.

My question is how to make a text color change in the output pdf?

Thanks in advance

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: Change text color in output!

[Bob Merhebi]

On Tue 02 Oct 2012 10:24:42 PM EEST, David L. Johnson wrote:
 That's odd, the colors work for me in PDF.  I use them to prepare
 slides for classes, with colors for emphasis.  It would also print
 that way if I had a color printer; as it is the colors come out in
 shades of gray.  This is probably a pdf viewer issue.  Try it with a
 postscript or dvi viewer, or send a sample file.

mmh; it worked out; turns out there isn't any problem.
I guess the pdf I generated was from an older version of a lyx file
which didn't have the coloring even though I remember opening the latest
file.

Anyhow, it works now. My bad.
-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Change text color in output!

[Bob Merhebi]

Hello there,

I am using the

Text Style  Customized  Color

to change the color text. I am using this to bring attention to specific
words in the document for further correction.

But counter to what I thought, the colors do not make it to the pdf; i
believe the colors are for internal lyx editing.

My question is how to make a text color change in the output pdf?

Thanks in advance

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: Change text color in output!

[Bob Merhebi]

On Tue 02 Oct 2012 10:24:42 PM EEST, David L. Johnson wrote:
 That's odd, the colors work for me in PDF.  I use them to prepare
 slides for classes, with colors for emphasis.  It would also print
 that way if I had a color printer; as it is the colors come out in
 shades of gray.  This is probably a pdf viewer issue.  Try it with a
 postscript or dvi viewer, or send a sample file.

mmh; it worked out; turns out there isn't any problem.
I guess the pdf I generated was from an older version of a lyx file
which didn't have the coloring even though I remember opening the latest
file.

Anyhow, it works now. My bad.
-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Change text color in output!

[Bob Merhebi]

Hello there,

I am using the

Text Style > Customized > Color

to change the color text. I am using this to bring attention to specific
words in the document for further correction.

But counter to what I thought, the colors do not make it to the pdf; i
believe the colors are for internal lyx editing.

My question is how to make a text color change in the output pdf?

Thanks in advance

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: Change text color in output!

[Bob Merhebi]

On Tue 02 Oct 2012 10:24:42 PM EEST, David L. Johnson wrote:
> That's odd, the colors work for me in PDF.  I use them to prepare
> slides for classes, with colors for emphasis.  It would also print
> that way if I had a color printer; as it is the colors come out in
> shades of gray.  This is probably a pdf viewer issue.  Try it with a
> postscript or dvi viewer, or send a sample file.

mmh; it worked out; turns out there isn't any problem.
I guess the pdf I generated was from an older version of a lyx file
which didn't have the coloring even though I remember opening the latest
file.

Anyhow, it works now. My bad.
-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Fwd: Re: fancybox

[Bob Merhebi]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: fancybox
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 03:14:28 +0300
From: Bob Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com
Reply-To: bobmerh...@gmail.com
To: Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com

On Fri 21 Sep 2012 05:22:10 PM EEST, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 On Ubuntu it seems to be in the texlive-latex-recommended [1] package.
 Try locate to check if you have teh relevant file installed.

this is the only package with fancybox; installed it  it fixed it but
check out the sample attached; there is another error (this time with

as a matter of fact I had other similar errors.

I remembered that I was installing apps (incl Lyx due to the download
size) with the --no-install-recommends option of apt-get. As such many
packages including the one mentioned above weren't installed.

Now, having reinstalling with suggestioned  recommended packages plus
the package texlive-math-extra (as I need the isomath package) solved
the problem; the document is compiling without  an error just as It was
on 10.04.

 Hmm, then I'm not sure what's wrong. Maybe if you could post a _small_
 reproducible example we could understand better what's happening.


I'll keep the sample just for reference!

 Regards
 Liviu

Thanks Liviu for your time  replies :D

--
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB






lyx-help.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: LyX download size

[Bob Merhebi]

On Fri 21 Sep 2012 02:17:24 AM EEST, Bob Merhebi wrote:
 Having moved to 12.04 recently I installed lyX.

 Apparently any package you try to install, you are suggested 
 recommended other packages, making the total download huge. To
 overcome this  not install these other unnecessary packages just add

 --no-install-recommends

 after apt-get  before install: apt-get --no-install-recommends
 install lyx

 That's it


 On 05/03/2012 04:02 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
 On 05/03/2012 04:26 AM, Merhebi, Bob wrote:
 On 04/20/2012 04:46 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
 You do NOT have to have TeX installed to use LyX. Only to
 compile to PDF. Plenty of people use TeX-less installs on
 netbooks, etc.

 Richard
 What about the math? I am writing a technical document which
 requires math formulas  even physics notation -e.g; (quantum)
 bracket- (it's actually a physics document for a course). I'd
 like to collaborate with someone to write it  edit it. Doesn't
 that requires TeX?

 No. You only need TeX to compile the LaTeX. You can still export a
 LaTeX file from within LyX, too, if you don't have TeX installed,
 send it to someone else, whatever.

 Richard

Having did this lately, I faced problems with a document I was working 
on: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg93458.html

My suggestion is to install Lyx as usual (with all 
suggestion/recommendations): apt-get install lyx
It will require 200~300 MB for all packages.

This made it work again: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg93470.html
--
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Fwd: Re: fancybox

[Bob Merhebi]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: fancybox
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 03:14:28 +0300
From: Bob Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com
Reply-To: bobmerh...@gmail.com
To: Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com

On Fri 21 Sep 2012 05:22:10 PM EEST, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 On Ubuntu it seems to be in the texlive-latex-recommended [1] package.
 Try locate to check if you have teh relevant file installed.

this is the only package with fancybox; installed it  it fixed it but
check out the sample attached; there is another error (this time with

as a matter of fact I had other similar errors.

I remembered that I was installing apps (incl Lyx due to the download
size) with the --no-install-recommends option of apt-get. As such many
packages including the one mentioned above weren't installed.

Now, having reinstalling with suggestioned  recommended packages plus
the package texlive-math-extra (as I need the isomath package) solved
the problem; the document is compiling without  an error just as It was
on 10.04.

 Hmm, then I'm not sure what's wrong. Maybe if you could post a _small_
 reproducible example we could understand better what's happening.


I'll keep the sample just for reference!

 Regards
 Liviu

Thanks Liviu for your time  replies :D

--
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB






lyx-help.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: LyX download size

[Bob Merhebi]

On Fri 21 Sep 2012 02:17:24 AM EEST, Bob Merhebi wrote:
 Having moved to 12.04 recently I installed lyX.

 Apparently any package you try to install, you are suggested 
 recommended other packages, making the total download huge. To
 overcome this  not install these other unnecessary packages just add

 --no-install-recommends

 after apt-get  before install: apt-get --no-install-recommends
 install lyx

 That's it


 On 05/03/2012 04:02 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
 On 05/03/2012 04:26 AM, Merhebi, Bob wrote:
 On 04/20/2012 04:46 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
 You do NOT have to have TeX installed to use LyX. Only to
 compile to PDF. Plenty of people use TeX-less installs on
 netbooks, etc.

 Richard
 What about the math? I am writing a technical document which
 requires math formulas  even physics notation -e.g; (quantum)
 bracket- (it's actually a physics document for a course). I'd
 like to collaborate with someone to write it  edit it. Doesn't
 that requires TeX?

 No. You only need TeX to compile the LaTeX. You can still export a
 LaTeX file from within LyX, too, if you don't have TeX installed,
 send it to someone else, whatever.

 Richard

Having did this lately, I faced problems with a document I was working 
on: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg93458.html

My suggestion is to install Lyx as usual (with all 
suggestion/recommendations): apt-get install lyx
It will require 200~300 MB for all packages.

This made it work again: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg93470.html
--
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Fwd: Re: fancybox

[Bob Merhebi]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: fancybox
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 03:14:28 +0300
From: Bob Merhebi <bobmerh...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: bobmerh...@gmail.com
To: Liviu Andronic <landronim...@gmail.com>

On Fri 21 Sep 2012 05:22:10 PM EEST, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> On Ubuntu it seems to be in the texlive-latex-recommended [1] package.
> Try locate to check if you have teh relevant file installed.

this is the only package with fancybox; installed it & it fixed it but
check out the sample attached; there is another error (this time with

as a matter of fact I had other similar errors.

I remembered that I was installing apps (incl Lyx due to the download
size) with the --no-install-recommends option of apt-get. As such many
packages including the one mentioned above weren't installed.

Now, having reinstalling with suggestioned & recommended packages plus
the package "texlive-math-extra" (as I need the isomath package) solved
the problem; the document is compiling without  an error just as It was
on 10.04.

> Hmm, then I'm not sure what's wrong. Maybe if you could post a _small_
> reproducible example we could understand better what's happening.
>

I'll keep the sample just for reference!

> Regards
> Liviu

Thanks Liviu for your time & replies :D

--
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB






lyx-help.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: LyX download size

[Bob Merhebi]

On Fri 21 Sep 2012 02:17:24 AM EEST, Bob Merhebi wrote:
> Having moved to 12.04 recently I installed lyX.
>
> Apparently any package you try to install, you are "suggested" &
> "recommended" other packages, making the total download huge. To
> overcome this & not install these other unnecessary packages just add
>
> --no-install-recommends
>
> after apt-get & before install: apt-get --no-install-recommends
> install lyx
>
> That's it
>
>
> On 05/03/2012 04:02 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
>> On 05/03/2012 04:26 AM, Merhebi, Bob wrote:
>>> On 04/20/2012 04:46 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
>>>> You do NOT have to have TeX installed to use LyX. Only to
>>>> compile to PDF. Plenty of people use TeX-less installs on
>>>> netbooks, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>> What about the math? I am writing a technical document which
>>> requires math formulas&  even physics notation -e.g; (quantum)
>>> bracket- (it's actually a physics document for a course). I'd
>>> like to collaborate with someone to write it&  edit it. Doesn't
>>> that requires TeX?
>>>
>> No. You only need TeX to compile the LaTeX. You can still export a
>> LaTeX file from within LyX, too, if you don't have TeX installed,
>> send it to someone else, whatever.
>>
>> Richard

Having did this lately, I faced problems with a document I was working 
on: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg93458.html

My suggestion is to install Lyx as usual (with all 
suggestion/recommendations): apt-get install lyx
It will require 200~300 MB for all packages.

This made it work again: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg93470.html
--
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: fancybox

[Bob Merhebi]

On 09/21/2012 10:04 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Bob Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I recently moved from Ubuntu 10.04 (LyX 2.0.3) to 12.04  (2.0.2).

 Try to update to 2.0.4 using teh Ubuntu PPA. (See download page.)


 I was working on a document on 10.04; trying to display the doc
 (pdf,dvi, etc..) results in a LaTeX error:

  \usepackage
 {fancybox}^^M
 *** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)


 Could you please help solve this?

 If you load 'fancybox' manually, check that there is nothing funny
 with that line in the preamble. Also check that you have fancybox
 installed on your computer.

 Regards
 Liviu


 Thanks in advance

 --
 Sincerely Yours,
 -Merhebi, Bob

 TB


Hi,

well thanks but I do not have any fancybox in my preamble; ill ive got is:

\usepackage{isomath}
\renewcommand{\vec}{\vectorsym}

Honestly, I'm not sure wha fancybox is (except from box)!

besides, how do I install fancybox? is it the one in the
texlive-latex-recommended package?

Besides, besides Lyx  texlive-science, should or do you suggest any
packages for mathematical/technical (science) documents (mainly physics
doc's)?

Thanks

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: fancybox

[Bob Merhebi]

On 09/21/2012 10:04 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Bob Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I recently moved from Ubuntu 10.04 (LyX 2.0.3) to 12.04  (2.0.2).

 Try to update to 2.0.4 using teh Ubuntu PPA. (See download page.)


 I was working on a document on 10.04; trying to display the doc
 (pdf,dvi, etc..) results in a LaTeX error:

  \usepackage
 {fancybox}^^M
 *** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)


 Could you please help solve this?

 If you load 'fancybox' manually, check that there is nothing funny
 with that line in the preamble. Also check that you have fancybox
 installed on your computer.

 Regards
 Liviu


 Thanks in advance

 --
 Sincerely Yours,
 -Merhebi, Bob

 TB


Hi,

well thanks but I do not have any fancybox in my preamble; ill ive got is:

\usepackage{isomath}
\renewcommand{\vec}{\vectorsym}

Honestly, I'm not sure wha fancybox is (except from box)!

besides, how do I install fancybox? is it the one in the
texlive-latex-recommended package?

Besides, besides Lyx  texlive-science, should or do you suggest any
packages for mathematical/technical (science) documents (mainly physics
doc's)?

Thanks

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: fancybox

[Bob Merhebi]

On 09/21/2012 10:04 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Bob Merhebi <bobmerh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I recently moved from Ubuntu 10.04 (LyX 2.0.3) to 12.04  (2.0.2).
>>
> Try to update to 2.0.4 using teh Ubuntu PPA. (See download page.)
>
>
>> I was working on a document on 10.04; trying to display the doc
>> (pdf,dvi, etc..) results in a LaTeX error:
>>
>>  \usepackage
>> {fancybox}^^M
>> *** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)
>>
>>
>> Could you please help solve this?
>>
> If you load 'fancybox' manually, check that there is nothing funny
> with that line in the preamble. Also check that you have fancybox
> installed on your computer.
>
> Regards
> Liviu
>
>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely Yours,
>> -Merhebi, Bob
>>
>> TB
>
>
Hi,

well thanks but I do not have any fancybox in my preamble; ill ive got is:

\usepackage{isomath}
\renewcommand{\vec}{\vectorsym}

Honestly, I'm not sure wha fancybox is (except from "box")!

besides, how do I install fancybox? is it the one in the
texlive-latex-recommended package?

Besides, besides Lyx & texlive-science, should or do you suggest any
packages for mathematical/technical (science) documents (mainly physics
doc's)?

Thanks

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: LyX download size

[Bob Merhebi]

Having moved to 12.04 recently I installed lyX.

Apparently any package you try to install, you are suggested 
recommended other packages, making the total download huge. To
overcome this  not install these other unnecessary packages just add

--no-install-recommends

after apt-get  before install: apt-get --no-install-recommends
install lyx

That's it


On 05/03/2012 04:02 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
 On 05/03/2012 04:26 AM, Merhebi, Bob wrote:
 On 04/20/2012 04:46 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
 You do NOT have to have TeX installed to use LyX. Only to
 compile to PDF. Plenty of people use TeX-less installs on
 netbooks, etc.
 
 Richard
 What about the math? I am writing a technical document which
 requires math formulas  even physics notation -e.g; (quantum)
 bracket- (it's actually a physics document for a course). I'd
 like to collaborate with someone to write it  edit it. Doesn't
 that requires TeX?
 
 No. You only need TeX to compile the LaTeX. You can still export a
 LaTeX file from within LyX, too, if you don't have TeX installed,
 send it to someone else, whatever.
 
 Richard
 


-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi,Bob

TB

fancybox

[Bob Merhebi]

Hello,

I recently moved from Ubuntu 10.04 (LyX 2.0.3) to 12.04  (2.0.2).

I was working on a document on 10.04; trying to display the doc
(pdf,dvi, etc..) results in a LaTeX error:

 \usepackage
{fancybox}^^M
*** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)


Could you please help solve this?

Thanks in advance

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: LyX download size

[Bob Merhebi]

Having moved to 12.04 recently I installed lyX.

Apparently any package you try to install, you are suggested 
recommended other packages, making the total download huge. To
overcome this  not install these other unnecessary packages just add

--no-install-recommends

after apt-get  before install: apt-get --no-install-recommends
install lyx

That's it


On 05/03/2012 04:02 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
 On 05/03/2012 04:26 AM, Merhebi, Bob wrote:
 On 04/20/2012 04:46 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
 You do NOT have to have TeX installed to use LyX. Only to
 compile to PDF. Plenty of people use TeX-less installs on
 netbooks, etc.
 
 Richard
 What about the math? I am writing a technical document which
 requires math formulas  even physics notation -e.g; (quantum)
 bracket- (it's actually a physics document for a course). I'd
 like to collaborate with someone to write it  edit it. Doesn't
 that requires TeX?
 
 No. You only need TeX to compile the LaTeX. You can still export a
 LaTeX file from within LyX, too, if you don't have TeX installed,
 send it to someone else, whatever.
 
 Richard
 


-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi,Bob

TB

fancybox

[Bob Merhebi]

Hello,

I recently moved from Ubuntu 10.04 (LyX 2.0.3) to 12.04  (2.0.2).

I was working on a document on 10.04; trying to display the doc
(pdf,dvi, etc..) results in a LaTeX error:

 \usepackage
{fancybox}^^M
*** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)


Could you please help solve this?

Thanks in advance

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: LyX download size

[Bob Merhebi]

Having moved to 12.04 recently I installed lyX.

Apparently any package you try to install, you are "suggested" &
"recommended" other packages, making the total download huge. To
overcome this & not install these other unnecessary packages just add

--no-install-recommends

after apt-get & before install: apt-get --no-install-recommends
install lyx

That's it


On 05/03/2012 04:02 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
> On 05/03/2012 04:26 AM, Merhebi, Bob wrote:
>> On 04/20/2012 04:46 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
>>> You do NOT have to have TeX installed to use LyX. Only to
>>> compile to PDF. Plenty of people use TeX-less installs on
>>> netbooks, etc.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>> What about the math? I am writing a technical document which
>> requires math formulas&  even physics notation -e.g; (quantum)
>> bracket- (it's actually a physics document for a course). I'd
>> like to collaborate with someone to write it&  edit it. Doesn't
>> that requires TeX?
>> 
> No. You only need TeX to compile the LaTeX. You can still export a
> LaTeX file from within LyX, too, if you don't have TeX installed,
> send it to someone else, whatever.
> 
> Richard
> 


-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi,Bob

TB

fancybox

[Bob Merhebi]

Hello,

I recently moved from Ubuntu 10.04 (LyX 2.0.3) to 12.04  (2.0.2).

I was working on a document on 10.04; trying to display the doc
(pdf,dvi, etc..) results in a LaTeX error:

 \usepackage
{fancybox}^^M
*** (cannot \read from terminal in nonstop modes)


Could you please help solve this?

Thanks in advance

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

TB

Re: numbering multi-line formulas

[Bob Merhebi]

On Tue 17 Apr 2012 01:29:00 AM EEST, Thomas Coffee wrote:
 Also, pressing Ctrl+Enter in regular math mode will give you eqnarray.


 On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 9:09 PM, David L. Johnson
 david.john...@lehigh.edu mailto:david.john...@lehigh.edu wrote:

 On 04/15/2012 06:18 PM, El Merehbi, Ibrahim wrote:

 Hello again,

 I believe I didn't clear it out well. I meant a shortcut for the
 eqnarray not the equation numbering.

 Sorry, I misunderstood.  Add to the shortcuts something like this:

 command-sequence math-mode on; math-mutate eqnarray;

 and link it to your favorite hot-key.  I use F12.

 --

 David L. Johnson

 A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems.
-- Paul Erdos

 --


oh thanks  for reminding  me of this :D I used it once; much better.

I am always hesitant about keybindings since I never know If I'm using 
a binding used by the system. For example, I do know that I can't use 
F12 as David does since F12 is used for another  software that runs on 
the system all the time  F12 is what brings it out when I need it!

thank you all.

Re: numbering multi-line formulas

[Bob Merhebi]

On Tue 17 Apr 2012 01:29:00 AM EEST, Thomas Coffee wrote:
 Also, pressing Ctrl+Enter in regular math mode will give you eqnarray.


 On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 9:09 PM, David L. Johnson
 david.john...@lehigh.edu mailto:david.john...@lehigh.edu wrote:

 On 04/15/2012 06:18 PM, El Merehbi, Ibrahim wrote:

 Hello again,

 I believe I didn't clear it out well. I meant a shortcut for the
 eqnarray not the equation numbering.

 Sorry, I misunderstood.  Add to the shortcuts something like this:

 command-sequence math-mode on; math-mutate eqnarray;

 and link it to your favorite hot-key.  I use F12.

 --

 David L. Johnson

 A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems.
-- Paul Erdos

 --


oh thanks  for reminding  me of this :D I used it once; much better.

I am always hesitant about keybindings since I never know If I'm using 
a binding used by the system. For example, I do know that I can't use 
F12 as David does since F12 is used for another  software that runs on 
the system all the time  F12 is what brings it out when I need it!

thank you all.

Re: numbering multi-line formulas

[Bob Merhebi]

On Tue 17 Apr 2012 01:29:00 AM EEST, Thomas Coffee wrote:
> Also, pressing Ctrl+Enter in regular math mode will give you eqnarray.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 9:09 PM, David L. Johnson
> > wrote:
>
> On 04/15/2012 06:18 PM, El Merehbi, Ibrahim wrote:
>
> Hello again,
>
> I believe I didn't clear it out well. I meant a shortcut for the
> "eqnarray" not the equation numbering.
>
> Sorry, I misunderstood.  Add to the shortcuts something like this:
>
> command-sequence math-mode on; math-mutate eqnarray;
>
> and link it to your favorite hot-key.  I use F12.
>
> --
>
> David L. Johnson
>
> A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems.
>-- Paul Erdos
>
> --
>

oh thanks  for reminding  me of this :D I used it once; much better.

I am always hesitant about keybindings since I never know If I'm using 
a binding used by the system. For example, I do know that I can't use 
F12 as David does since F12 is used for another  software that runs on 
the system all the time & F12 is what brings it out when I need it!

thank you all.

LyX on Ubuntu Precise (12.04): big download size!

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello all,

I've been testing Ubuntu12.04 lately  just now I was thinking of using LyX
on it. TO my big surprise the LyX requires a large download of ~450 MB+. I
am shocked!!! IS that the true size? If not mistaken I recall that on 10.04
it required ~ 25MB. Am I mistaken? Is there something wrong?

--
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

LyX on Ubuntu Precise (12.04): big download size!

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello all,

I've been testing Ubuntu12.04 lately  just now I was thinking of using LyX
on it. TO my big surprise the LyX requires a large download of ~450 MB+. I
am shocked!!! IS that the true size? If not mistaken I recall that on 10.04
it required ~ 25MB. Am I mistaken? Is there something wrong?

--
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

LyX on Ubuntu Precise (12.04): big download size!

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello all,

I've been testing Ubuntu12.04 lately & just now I was thinking of using LyX
on it. TO my big surprise the LyX requires a large download of ~450 MB+. I
am shocked!!! IS that the true size? If not mistaken I recall that on 10.04
it required ~ 25MB. Am I mistaken? Is there something wrong?

--
Sincerely Yours,
Merhebi, Bob

Re: Images Directories

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello Stephan,

On 02/24/2012 08:57 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:
 I can remember it didn't work with some LyX versions ages ago. I just
 tried it with 1.6.9 and it works with this version. In case you cannot
 upgrade to 2.0 consider an upgrade to the latest 1.6 release. If this
 is a no-go too - try to correct the path to the images manually. I
 think LyX isn't converting the file name of the image to a relative
 on. After selecting the image path with the help of the open file
 dialog the path you may remove the leading part of the file name and
 close the image property dialog without using the Browse... button
 again. Stephan 

I last reported that it did work in 1.6.7 if the figures folder and
the lyx files are in the same directory.

In any case, I upgraded to the latest 2.0.3 using the ppa.

thanks all

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Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

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Re: Images Directories

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello Stephan,

On 02/24/2012 08:57 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:
 I can remember it didn't work with some LyX versions ages ago. I just
 tried it with 1.6.9 and it works with this version. In case you cannot
 upgrade to 2.0 consider an upgrade to the latest 1.6 release. If this
 is a no-go too - try to correct the path to the images manually. I
 think LyX isn't converting the file name of the image to a relative
 on. After selecting the image path with the help of the open file
 dialog the path you may remove the leading part of the file name and
 close the image property dialog without using the Browse... button
 again. Stephan 

I last reported that it did work in 1.6.7 if the figures folder and
the lyx files are in the same directory.

In any case, I upgraded to the latest 2.0.3 using the ppa.

thanks all

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

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Re: Images & Directories

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello Stephan,

On 02/24/2012 08:57 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:
> I can remember it didn't work with some LyX versions ages ago. I just
> tried it with 1.6.9 and it works with this version. In case you cannot
> upgrade to 2.0 consider an upgrade to the latest 1.6 release. If this
> is a no-go too - try to correct the path to the images manually. I
> think LyX isn't converting the file name of the image to a relative
> on. After selecting the image path with the help of the open file
> dialog the path you may remove the leading part of the file name and
> close the image property dialog without using the "Browse..." button
> again. Stephan 

I last reported that it did work in 1.6.7 "if" the figures folder and
the lyx files are in the same directory.

In any case, I upgraded to the latest 2.0.3 using the ppa.

thanks all

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

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Fwd: Re: Images Directories

[BOB Merhebi]

 Original Message 
Subject:Re: Images  Directories
Date:   Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:05:07 +0200
From:   BOB Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com
To: Jacob Bishop bishop.ja...@gmail.com



Hello Jacob,

On Wed 22 Feb 2012 02:48:35 AM EET, Jacob Bishop wrote:
 Bob,

 On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM, BOB Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com
 mailto:bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:
 snip

 Indeed, that's what I do too. I have a folder -call it A- inside of
 which there are 3 folders (one for figures -B-, one for my report
 -C- 
 another for my beamer -presentation -D-). I use the figure folder for
 both the report  the beamer. But if I rename A, the images links are
 broken.!


 Interesting. I just did a simple test on LyX 2.0 with the exact
 example you provided, and I do not experience that problem. Renaming
 or moving A causes absolutely no issue for me.


I did not mention that I'm using LyX 1.6.7 on a Linux Lucid!

 The only thing I can think of is that you might be using absolute
 rather than relative paths. I wouldn't initially think this is the
 problem, because I know that LyX uses relative paths by default.

Honestly, I am not aware of what you're talking about! Never heard of 
abs/rel paths.

 However, it's the only logical explanation I can come up with for the
 behavior you're describing (Which I am not able to reproduce). You
 should not have to explicitly provide relative paths, but why don't
 you try that and see if it resolves the problem?

 If you understand relative paths vs. complete paths, you can skip this
 explanation and try that. Otherwise, I will try to explain using the
 folder setup you gave. Your report is in -C-, which is in -A-. Your
 figures are in -B-, which is also in -A-. When you insert an image and
 it puts in the complete path, then it's something like
 C:\Users\YourName\A\B\someFigure.png and that is a problem. If you
 rename A to Alpha, you have the problem that when LyX looks for your
 image in C:\Users\YourName\A\B\someFigure.png it will find nothing
 because C:\Users\YourName\A\B\someFigure.png does not exist (because
 A does not exist). It should be looking in
 C:\Users\YourName\Alpha\B\someFigure.png That's the problem.

 The solution is to use relative paths.  You can explicitly use a
 relative path by specifying it in the textbox that comes up under
 input-graphics. If an absolute path is listed there, that is likely
 the problem. So, if you're in C, you can change the path in the figure
 reference to ..\B\someFigure.png (which is a relative path) rather
 than C:\Users\YourName\A\B\someFigure.png (which is a complete
 path). This means that LyX simply checks up one directory, then tries
 to move down, not caring what drive we're on, or what the master
 folder is named, since it never reaches that point in the tree.


I think I catch what you mean.
In my version: under the Graphics tab, File. I tried it but still 
the image breaks!
I just checked 
this:http://lyx.475766.n2.nabble.com/How-to-stop-Figure-location-broken-when-I-open-file-in-different-computer-td480875.html
In the third post, it says that the images should be at the same level 
or below that of the lyx file?

I also checked this: 
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/66263
 then this: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/RelativeFiguresLocation

I tried all but none worked except the last (after relocating my 
figures folder within the lyx folder). It worked :D

I guess having the figures folder on the same level doesn't work with 
1.6.7

 If you're using relative paths and still have the problem, then I'm
 stumped. Hope this helps.

 Jacob


Thank you Jacob :D You saved me loads of to-come waste of time.

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

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Fwd: Re: Images Directories

[BOB Merhebi]

 Original Message 
Subject:Re: Images  Directories
Date:   Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:05:07 +0200
From:   BOB Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com
To: Jacob Bishop bishop.ja...@gmail.com



Hello Jacob,

On Wed 22 Feb 2012 02:48:35 AM EET, Jacob Bishop wrote:
 Bob,

 On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM, BOB Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com
 mailto:bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:
 snip

 Indeed, that's what I do too. I have a folder -call it A- inside of
 which there are 3 folders (one for figures -B-, one for my report
 -C- 
 another for my beamer -presentation -D-). I use the figure folder for
 both the report  the beamer. But if I rename A, the images links are
 broken.!


 Interesting. I just did a simple test on LyX 2.0 with the exact
 example you provided, and I do not experience that problem. Renaming
 or moving A causes absolutely no issue for me.


I did not mention that I'm using LyX 1.6.7 on a Linux Lucid!

 The only thing I can think of is that you might be using absolute
 rather than relative paths. I wouldn't initially think this is the
 problem, because I know that LyX uses relative paths by default.

Honestly, I am not aware of what you're talking about! Never heard of 
abs/rel paths.

 However, it's the only logical explanation I can come up with for the
 behavior you're describing (Which I am not able to reproduce). You
 should not have to explicitly provide relative paths, but why don't
 you try that and see if it resolves the problem?

 If you understand relative paths vs. complete paths, you can skip this
 explanation and try that. Otherwise, I will try to explain using the
 folder setup you gave. Your report is in -C-, which is in -A-. Your
 figures are in -B-, which is also in -A-. When you insert an image and
 it puts in the complete path, then it's something like
 C:\Users\YourName\A\B\someFigure.png and that is a problem. If you
 rename A to Alpha, you have the problem that when LyX looks for your
 image in C:\Users\YourName\A\B\someFigure.png it will find nothing
 because C:\Users\YourName\A\B\someFigure.png does not exist (because
 A does not exist). It should be looking in
 C:\Users\YourName\Alpha\B\someFigure.png That's the problem.

 The solution is to use relative paths.  You can explicitly use a
 relative path by specifying it in the textbox that comes up under
 input-graphics. If an absolute path is listed there, that is likely
 the problem. So, if you're in C, you can change the path in the figure
 reference to ..\B\someFigure.png (which is a relative path) rather
 than C:\Users\YourName\A\B\someFigure.png (which is a complete
 path). This means that LyX simply checks up one directory, then tries
 to move down, not caring what drive we're on, or what the master
 folder is named, since it never reaches that point in the tree.


I think I catch what you mean.
In my version: under the Graphics tab, File. I tried it but still 
the image breaks!
I just checked 
this:http://lyx.475766.n2.nabble.com/How-to-stop-Figure-location-broken-when-I-open-file-in-different-computer-td480875.html
In the third post, it says that the images should be at the same level 
or below that of the lyx file?

I also checked this: 
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/66263
 then this: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/RelativeFiguresLocation

I tried all but none worked except the last (after relocating my 
figures folder within the lyx folder). It worked :D

I guess having the figures folder on the same level doesn't work with 
1.6.7

 If you're using relative paths and still have the problem, then I'm
 stumped. Hope this helps.

 Jacob


Thank you Jacob :D You saved me loads of to-come waste of time.

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

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-Merhebi, Bob

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Fwd: Re: Images & Directories

[BOB Merhebi]

 Original Message 
Subject:Re: Images & Directories
Date:   Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:05:07 +0200
From:   BOB Merhebi <bobmerh...@gmail.com>
To: Jacob Bishop <bishop.ja...@gmail.com>



Hello Jacob,

On Wed 22 Feb 2012 02:48:35 AM EET, Jacob Bishop wrote:
> Bob,
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM, BOB Merhebi <bobmerh...@gmail.com
> <mailto:bobmerh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>
> Indeed, that's what I do too. I have a folder -call it A- inside of
> which there are 3 folders (one for figures -B-, one for my report
> -C- &
> another for my beamer -presentation -D-). I use the figure folder for
> both the report & the beamer. But if I rename A, the images links are
> broken.!
>
>
> Interesting. I just did a simple test on LyX 2.0 with the exact
> example you provided, and I do not experience that problem. Renaming
> or moving A causes absolutely no issue for me.
>

I did not mention that I'm using LyX 1.6.7 on a Linux Lucid!

> The only thing I can think of is that you might be using absolute
> rather than relative paths. I wouldn't initially think this is the
> problem, because I know that LyX uses relative paths by default.

Honestly, I am not aware of what you're talking about! Never heard of 
abs/rel paths.

> However, it's the only logical explanation I can come up with for the
> behavior you're describing (Which I am not able to reproduce). You
> should not have to explicitly provide relative paths, but why don't
> you try that and see if it resolves the problem?
>
> If you understand relative paths vs. complete paths, you can skip this
> explanation and try that. Otherwise, I will try to explain using the
> folder setup you gave. Your report is in -C-, which is in -A-. Your
> figures are in -B-, which is also in -A-. When you insert an image and
> it puts in the complete path, then it's something like
> "C:\Users\YourName\A\B\someFigure.png" and that is a problem. If you
> rename A to Alpha, you have the problem that when LyX looks for your
> image in "C:\Users\YourName\A\B\someFigure.png" it will find nothing
> because "C:\Users\YourName\A\B\someFigure.png" does not exist (because
> A does not exist). It should be looking in
> "C:\Users\YourName\Alpha\B\someFigure.png" That's the problem.
>
> The solution is to use relative paths.  You can explicitly use a
> relative path by specifying it in the textbox that comes up under
> input->graphics. If an absolute path is listed there, that is likely
> the problem. So, if you're in C, you can change the path in the figure
> reference to "..\B\someFigure.png" (which is a relative path) rather
> than "C:\Users\YourName\A\B\someFigure.png" (which is a complete
> path). This means that LyX simply checks up one directory, then tries
> to move down, not caring what drive we're on, or what the master
> folder is named, since it never reaches that point in the tree.
>

I think I catch what you mean.
In my version: under the "Graphics" tab, "File". I tried it but still 
the image breaks!
I just checked 
this:http://lyx.475766.n2.nabble.com/How-to-stop-Figure-location-broken-when-I-open-file-in-different-computer-td480875.html
In the third post, it says that the images should be at the same level 
or below that of the lyx file?

I also checked this: 
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general/66263
& then this: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/RelativeFiguresLocation

I tried all but none worked except the last (after relocating my 
figures folder within the lyx folder). It worked :D

I guess having the figures folder on the same level doesn't work with 
1.6.7

> If you're using relative paths and still have the problem, then I'm
> stumped. Hope this helps.
>
> Jacob


Thank you Jacob :D You saved me loads of to-come waste of time.

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

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Images Directories

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello there,

I guess the question I'm going to ask is somewhat naive, but I think it
is important to ask.

Given that you've been working on some document that includes images and
that you're done working with it and wish to archive it somewhere else
(i.e; another directory).

the Problem: Obviously images will no longer show in the LyX document
since the directories have changed!

the naive Question: How can I counter that to ensure that I do not
need to reset all image directories every time I change the file's location?

Thanks in advance

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

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Re: Images Directories

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello Jacob,

 Bob,

 As your question demonstrates, there are problems if you look at a
 .lyx file as a standalone entity. It needs to be thought of as only
 part of a document, the other part being the figures and any other
 linked content.

 Because of this, I never move a file alone. Every document has a
 directory that goes with it. When I create a document, it goes into
 its own folder. In the document folder, I create a figures
 subfolder. All of my figures are referenced with relative paths. Then,
 whenever I move a document, it moves with the folder it was created
 in, and all the subfolders (including the one with the figures in it)
 go with it. Done this way, the document folder can be moved anywhere
 within the filesystem, and the document will still compile without a
 problem.

Indeed, that's what I do too. I have a folder -call it A- inside of
which there are 3 folders (one for figures -B-, one for my report -C- 
another for my beamer -presentation -D-). I use the figure folder for
both the report  the beamer. But if I rename A, the images links are
broken.!

 Another bonus of using this method is that I can switch seamlessly
 between systems. I synchronize my files with Dropbox, and switch
 between both Windows and Linux computers seamlessly. The files compile
 on both systems without any changes, even though the absolute paths
 are very different.

That's an interesting solution. Will keep it in mind, but the only thing
I need is to be able to move my folder to archive with the image links
still in contact!

 I have suffered from numerous problems before finally settling on this
 as a solution. Hopefully this helps.

 Jacob

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

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Images Directories

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello there,

I guess the question I'm going to ask is somewhat naive, but I think it
is important to ask.

Given that you've been working on some document that includes images and
that you're done working with it and wish to archive it somewhere else
(i.e; another directory).

the Problem: Obviously images will no longer show in the LyX document
since the directories have changed!

the naive Question: How can I counter that to ensure that I do not
need to reset all image directories every time I change the file's location?

Thanks in advance

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

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Re: Images Directories

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello Jacob,

 Bob,

 As your question demonstrates, there are problems if you look at a
 .lyx file as a standalone entity. It needs to be thought of as only
 part of a document, the other part being the figures and any other
 linked content.

 Because of this, I never move a file alone. Every document has a
 directory that goes with it. When I create a document, it goes into
 its own folder. In the document folder, I create a figures
 subfolder. All of my figures are referenced with relative paths. Then,
 whenever I move a document, it moves with the folder it was created
 in, and all the subfolders (including the one with the figures in it)
 go with it. Done this way, the document folder can be moved anywhere
 within the filesystem, and the document will still compile without a
 problem.

Indeed, that's what I do too. I have a folder -call it A- inside of
which there are 3 folders (one for figures -B-, one for my report -C- 
another for my beamer -presentation -D-). I use the figure folder for
both the report  the beamer. But if I rename A, the images links are
broken.!

 Another bonus of using this method is that I can switch seamlessly
 between systems. I synchronize my files with Dropbox, and switch
 between both Windows and Linux computers seamlessly. The files compile
 on both systems without any changes, even though the absolute paths
 are very different.

That's an interesting solution. Will keep it in mind, but the only thing
I need is to be able to move my folder to archive with the image links
still in contact!

 I have suffered from numerous problems before finally settling on this
 as a solution. Hopefully this helps.

 Jacob

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

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Images & Directories

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello there,

I guess the question I'm going to ask is somewhat naive, but I think it
is important to ask.

Given that you've been working on some document that includes images and
that you're done working with it and wish to archive it somewhere else
(i.e; another directory).

the Problem: Obviously images will no longer show in the LyX document
since the directories have changed!

the "naive" Question: How can I counter that to ensure that I do not
need to reset all image directories every time I change the file's location?

Thanks in advance

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

Thunderbird Signature

Re: Images & Directories

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello Jacob,

> Bob,
>
> As your question demonstrates, there are problems if you look at a
> .lyx file as a standalone entity. It needs to be thought of as only
> part of a document, the other part being the figures and any other
> linked content.
>
> Because of this, I never move a file alone. Every document has a
> directory that goes with it. When I create a document, it goes into
> its own folder. In the document folder, I create a "figures"
> subfolder. All of my figures are referenced with relative paths. Then,
> whenever I move a document, it moves with the folder it was created
> in, and all the subfolders (including the one with the figures in it)
> go with it. Done this way, the document folder can be moved anywhere
> within the filesystem, and the document will still compile without a
> problem.
>
Indeed, that's what I do too. I have a folder -call it A- inside of
which there are 3 folders (one for figures -B-, one for my report -C- &
another for my beamer -presentation -D-). I use the figure folder for
both the report & the beamer. But if I rename A, the images links are
broken.!

> Another bonus of using this method is that I can switch seamlessly
> between systems. I synchronize my files with Dropbox, and switch
> between both Windows and Linux computers seamlessly. The files compile
> on both systems without any changes, even though the absolute paths
> are very different.
>
That's an interesting solution. Will keep it in mind, but the only thing
I need is to be able to move my folder to archive with the image links
still in contact!

> I have suffered from numerous problems before finally settling on this
> as a solution. Hopefully this helps.
>
> Jacob

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Merhebi, Bob

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Article class: printed text is relatively small + Book class issues

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello fellow Lyxers,

I've been using the article (default) class to write my documents; am
still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
document  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when printed.

I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file  choosing book
from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
class  the book class, all the differed is the section  subsection
sizes but not the standard text. Is this how it should be ? Will it be
similar to the user guide when printed ?
Moreover, the numbering of the sections  subsections reset  started
with 0 instead of 1. Why is that  how can it be fixed ?

One last thing I noticed in the book-based document is that the pages
(after the contents page) all display a CONTENTS header. Again,
why is  how to fix that ?

You help is appreciated

P.S.: I tried subscribing to: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org but I received a
failure reply. Might it be related to my subscription in the digest ?

thanks

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-Bob Merhebi

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Re: Article class: printed text is relatively small + Book class issues

[BOB Merhebi]

On 03/30/2011 10:12 PM, stephen's mailinglist account wrote:
 On 30 March 2011 15:53, BOB Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello fellow Lyxers,

 I've been using the article (default) class to write my documents; am
 still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
 document  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
 would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when printed.

 I believe the default size is 10 pt. This can  be altered (11 or 12 pt
 I think) - under the document menu, the set of options below the one
 where you chose the document class book (settings? Sorry not on home
 machine - hence no current lyx access)


Indeed I figured this out with the help of Richard (copied at the end) a
few hrs ago; thanks for the reply though :D
 I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file  choosing book
 from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
 class  the book class, all the differed is the section  subsection
 sizes but not the standard text. Is this how it should be ? Will it be
 similar to the user guide when printed ?
 Moreover, the numbering of the sections  subsections reset  started
 with 0 instead of 1. Why is that  how can it be fixed ?

 For article the top level heading is a section (well I think you can
 have a part too but..)
 For book the top level is chapter, and if you convert straight from
 article to book you are missing chapter 1.


Indeed as well, though the typesetting is not similar; it displays:

Part #:: for part (centered)
Chapter #:: for chapter

 -Bob Merhebi


On 03/30/2011 10:53 AM, BOB Merhebi wrote:
 Hello fellow Lyxers,

 I've been using the article (default) class to write my documents; am
 still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
 document  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
 would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when
 printed.

DocumentSettingsFontsDefault Size.

 I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file  choosing book
 from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
 class  the book class, all the differed is the section  subsection
 sizes but not the standard text. Is this how it should be?

Yes. The classes are almost identical.

 Will it be similar to the user guide when printed?

No. I think the user guide uses article (koma-script). But this is
independent of font size (except that the koma classes may offer more
choices).

 Moreover, the numbering of the sections  subsections reset  started
 with 0 instead of 1. Why is that  how can it be fixed ?

This is because books have chapters.

 One last thing I noticed in the book-based document is that the pages
 (after the contents page) all display a CONTENTS header. Again,
 why is  how to fix that ?

Because you are still in the Contents chapter. If you don't have
chapters, you do not want book.

Richard

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Ibrahim (Bob) Merhebi

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Article class: printed text is relatively small + Book class issues

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello fellow Lyxers,

I've been using the article (default) class to write my documents; am
still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
document  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when printed.

I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file  choosing book
from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
class  the book class, all the differed is the section  subsection
sizes but not the standard text. Is this how it should be ? Will it be
similar to the user guide when printed ?
Moreover, the numbering of the sections  subsections reset  started
with 0 instead of 1. Why is that  how can it be fixed ?

One last thing I noticed in the book-based document is that the pages
(after the contents page) all display a CONTENTS header. Again,
why is  how to fix that ?

You help is appreciated

P.S.: I tried subscribing to: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org but I received a
failure reply. Might it be related to my subscription in the digest ?

thanks

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Bob Merhebi

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Re: Article class: printed text is relatively small + Book class issues

[BOB Merhebi]

On 03/30/2011 10:12 PM, stephen's mailinglist account wrote:
 On 30 March 2011 15:53, BOB Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello fellow Lyxers,

 I've been using the article (default) class to write my documents; am
 still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
 document  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
 would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when printed.

 I believe the default size is 10 pt. This can  be altered (11 or 12 pt
 I think) - under the document menu, the set of options below the one
 where you chose the document class book (settings? Sorry not on home
 machine - hence no current lyx access)


Indeed I figured this out with the help of Richard (copied at the end) a
few hrs ago; thanks for the reply though :D
 I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file  choosing book
 from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
 class  the book class, all the differed is the section  subsection
 sizes but not the standard text. Is this how it should be ? Will it be
 similar to the user guide when printed ?
 Moreover, the numbering of the sections  subsections reset  started
 with 0 instead of 1. Why is that  how can it be fixed ?

 For article the top level heading is a section (well I think you can
 have a part too but..)
 For book the top level is chapter, and if you convert straight from
 article to book you are missing chapter 1.


Indeed as well, though the typesetting is not similar; it displays:

Part #:: for part (centered)
Chapter #:: for chapter

 -Bob Merhebi


On 03/30/2011 10:53 AM, BOB Merhebi wrote:
 Hello fellow Lyxers,

 I've been using the article (default) class to write my documents; am
 still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
 document  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
 would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when
 printed.

DocumentSettingsFontsDefault Size.

 I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file  choosing book
 from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
 class  the book class, all the differed is the section  subsection
 sizes but not the standard text. Is this how it should be?

Yes. The classes are almost identical.

 Will it be similar to the user guide when printed?

No. I think the user guide uses article (koma-script). But this is
independent of font size (except that the koma classes may offer more
choices).

 Moreover, the numbering of the sections  subsections reset  started
 with 0 instead of 1. Why is that  how can it be fixed ?

This is because books have chapters.

 One last thing I noticed in the book-based document is that the pages
 (after the contents page) all display a CONTENTS header. Again,
 why is  how to fix that ?

Because you are still in the Contents chapter. If you don't have
chapters, you do not want book.

Richard

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Ibrahim (Bob) Merhebi

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Article class: printed text is relatively small + Book class issues

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello fellow Lyxers,

I've been using the "article" (default) class to write my documents; am
still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
document & it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when printed.

I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file & choosing "book"
from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
class & the book class, all the differed is the section & subsection
sizes but not the "standard text". Is this how it should be ? Will it be
similar to the user guide when printed ?
Moreover, the numbering of the sections & subsections reset & started
with 0 instead of 1. Why is that & how can it be fixed ?

One last thing I noticed in the book-based document is that the pages
(after the "contents" page) "all" display a "CONTENTS" header. Again,
why is & how to fix that ?

You help is appreciated

P.S.: I tried subscribing to: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org but I received a
"failure" reply. Might it be related to my subscription in the digest ?

thanks

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Bob Merhebi

Thunderbird Signature

Re: Article class: printed text is relatively small + Book class issues

[BOB Merhebi]

On 03/30/2011 10:12 PM, stephen's mailinglist account wrote:
> On 30 March 2011 15:53, BOB Merhebi <bobmerh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello fellow Lyxers,
>>
>> I've been using the "article" (default) class to write my documents; am
>> still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
>> document & it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
>> would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when printed.
>>
> I believe the default size is 10 pt. This can  be altered (11 or 12 pt
> I think) - under the document menu, the set of options below the one
> where you chose the document class book (settings? Sorry not on home
> machine - hence no current lyx access)
>

Indeed I figured this out with the help of Richard (copied at the end) a
few hrs ago; thanks for the reply though :D
>> I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file & choosing "book"
>> from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
>> class & the book class, all the differed is the section & subsection
>> sizes but not the "standard text". Is this how it should be ? Will it be
>> similar to the user guide when printed ?
>> Moreover, the numbering of the sections & subsections reset & started
>> with 0 instead of 1. Why is that & how can it be fixed ?
>>
> For article the top level heading is a section (well I think you can
> have a part too but..)
> For book the top level is chapter, and if you convert straight from
> article to book you are missing chapter 1.
>
>
Indeed as well, though the typesetting is not similar; it displays:

Part #:: for part (centered)
Chapter #:: for chapter

>> -Bob Merhebi
>

On 03/30/2011 10:53 AM, BOB Merhebi wrote:
> Hello fellow Lyxers,
>
> I've been using the "article" (default) class to write my documents; am
> still learning LyX. Today was the first time i print out a LyX written
> document&  it looks great but for the text size. It is readable but
> would like it to be more like the text size of the user guide when
> printed.
>
Document>Settings>Fonts>Default Size.

> I just tried copying my document into a new LyX file&  choosing "book"
> from the Document settings; when I compared the dvi between the article
> class&  the book class, all the differed is the section&  subsection
> sizes but not the "standard text". Is this how it should be?
>
Yes. The classes are almost identical.

> Will it be similar to the user guide when printed?
>
No. I think the user guide uses "article (koma-script)". But this is
independent of font size (except that the koma classes may offer more
choices).

> Moreover, the numbering of the sections&  subsections reset&  started
> with 0 instead of 1. Why is that&  how can it be fixed ?
>
This is because books have chapters.

> One last thing I noticed in the book-based document is that the pages
> (after the "contents" page) "all" display a "CONTENTS" header. Again,
> why is&  how to fix that ?
>
Because you are still in the Contents "chapter". If you don't have
chapters, you do not want book.

Richard

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Ibrahim (Bob) Merhebi

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LyX: Saves edited version of document as a new version (new file) ?

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello fellow LyXers,

I wonder if LyX can save documents that have been edited as a new
(updated) version of the same file ? For instance, say I have a document
called newdoc.lyx  I am now editing it; I save the
changes/modifications i made  the file is saved as a new one called,
say, newdoc2.lyx

I am interested in this in case one would like to refer to an older
version of a document after changes have been made, or in case of a
mistake involving the modification  saving  quitting of a document,
hence the undo here would not be applicable; this hasn't yet happened to
me, but it happened to a friend of mine to whom I introduced LyX to.

If such a feature is not available I would like to suggest it for a
future version of LyX.

Configuration: LyX 1.6.5 under Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.


P.S.: Please reply to me personally, not just to the lyx mailing list.

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Bob Merhebi

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Re: LyX: Saves edited version of document as a new version (new file) ?

[BOB Merhebi]

On 03/25/2011 09:44 PM, David L. Johnson wrote:
 On 03/25/11 14:54, BOB Merhebi wrote:
 Hello fellow LyXers,

 I wonder if LyX can save documents that have been edited as a new
 (updated) version of the same file ?

 I guess I don't understand.  Using Save As you can save it
 incrementally with any name you please.  I do this all the time.  But,
 if you want something automatic, you'd get a new filename every time
 you saved.  Are you sure you want that?

indeed, that is what I meant

 I often save a file I am working on several times, so that I don't
 lose too much if, say, the power goes out, or if the computer crashes,
 or if lyx itself crashes.  I would have half a dozen copies by the end
 of the day, and that would eat up a lot of space, and files would
 proliferate.


I think you are right in this regard

 Maybe what you really want to enable is something on the order of
 version control, or change tracking.  

I believe this is a possible solution; all I need is being able to
revise the document for the latest if not all the editing that occurred,
particularly in the case that the undo feature is no more applicable
like when lyx is closed.

 Look under tools for that; maybe someone who uses it can provide
 suggestions.


help is appreciated.

 P.S.: Please reply to me personally, not just to the lyx mailing list.

 Generally, it is better form, when asking a question of a list, to
 join the list at least until your question is answered.

well I did join the list a year ago but until now I hadn't had any
particular question but still I followed the list till a few weeks ago
when I un-subscribed due to the large number of daily digests that
accumulated, hehe

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Ibrahim (Bob) Merhebi

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Re: LyX: Saves edited version of document as a new version (new file) ?

[BOB Merhebi]

On 03/25/2011 10:26 PM, Ingar Pareliussen wrote:
 Maybe what you really want to enable is something on the order of
 version control, or change tracking.
 I believe this is a possible solution; all I need is being able to
 revise the document for the latest if not all the editing that occurred,
 particularly in the case that the undo feature is no more applicable
 like when lyx is closed.
 Check the section 6.2 in the Help-additional functions in LyX,
 it takes you through how to use the revision control.

 It should fit your needs for undo etc, however, some knowledge of
 revisionsystems is helpful...

 hth,
 Ingar Pareliussen

I just checked it out; i will thoroughly read it; thanks


On 03/25/2011 10:32 PM, Julien Rioux wrote:
 On 25/03/2011 4:02 PM, BOB Merhebi wrote:
 I believe this is a possible solution; all I need is being able to
 revise the document for the latest if not all the editing that occurred,
 particularly in the case that the undo feature is no more applicable
 like when lyx is closed.

 Use change tracking. It will change your life :)
 Document  Change Tracking


that's what i just did :D will see how that goes; but from your
experience, does the tracking stay there even when i quite the document
 reopen it ?

thanks

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Bob Merhebi

Thunderbird Signature

LyX: Saves edited version of document as a new version (new file) ?

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello fellow LyXers,

I wonder if LyX can save documents that have been edited as a new
(updated) version of the same file ? For instance, say I have a document
called newdoc.lyx  I am now editing it; I save the
changes/modifications i made  the file is saved as a new one called,
say, newdoc2.lyx

I am interested in this in case one would like to refer to an older
version of a document after changes have been made, or in case of a
mistake involving the modification  saving  quitting of a document,
hence the undo here would not be applicable; this hasn't yet happened to
me, but it happened to a friend of mine to whom I introduced LyX to.

If such a feature is not available I would like to suggest it for a
future version of LyX.

Configuration: LyX 1.6.5 under Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.


P.S.: Please reply to me personally, not just to the lyx mailing list.

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Bob Merhebi

Thunderbird Signature

Re: LyX: Saves edited version of document as a new version (new file) ?

[BOB Merhebi]

On 03/25/2011 09:44 PM, David L. Johnson wrote:
 On 03/25/11 14:54, BOB Merhebi wrote:
 Hello fellow LyXers,

 I wonder if LyX can save documents that have been edited as a new
 (updated) version of the same file ?

 I guess I don't understand.  Using Save As you can save it
 incrementally with any name you please.  I do this all the time.  But,
 if you want something automatic, you'd get a new filename every time
 you saved.  Are you sure you want that?

indeed, that is what I meant

 I often save a file I am working on several times, so that I don't
 lose too much if, say, the power goes out, or if the computer crashes,
 or if lyx itself crashes.  I would have half a dozen copies by the end
 of the day, and that would eat up a lot of space, and files would
 proliferate.


I think you are right in this regard

 Maybe what you really want to enable is something on the order of
 version control, or change tracking.  

I believe this is a possible solution; all I need is being able to
revise the document for the latest if not all the editing that occurred,
particularly in the case that the undo feature is no more applicable
like when lyx is closed.

 Look under tools for that; maybe someone who uses it can provide
 suggestions.


help is appreciated.

 P.S.: Please reply to me personally, not just to the lyx mailing list.

 Generally, it is better form, when asking a question of a list, to
 join the list at least until your question is answered.

well I did join the list a year ago but until now I hadn't had any
particular question but still I followed the list till a few weeks ago
when I un-subscribed due to the large number of daily digests that
accumulated, hehe

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Ibrahim (Bob) Merhebi

Thunderbird Signature

Re: LyX: Saves edited version of document as a new version (new file) ?

[BOB Merhebi]

On 03/25/2011 10:26 PM, Ingar Pareliussen wrote:
 Maybe what you really want to enable is something on the order of
 version control, or change tracking.
 I believe this is a possible solution; all I need is being able to
 revise the document for the latest if not all the editing that occurred,
 particularly in the case that the undo feature is no more applicable
 like when lyx is closed.
 Check the section 6.2 in the Help-additional functions in LyX,
 it takes you through how to use the revision control.

 It should fit your needs for undo etc, however, some knowledge of
 revisionsystems is helpful...

 hth,
 Ingar Pareliussen

I just checked it out; i will thoroughly read it; thanks


On 03/25/2011 10:32 PM, Julien Rioux wrote:
 On 25/03/2011 4:02 PM, BOB Merhebi wrote:
 I believe this is a possible solution; all I need is being able to
 revise the document for the latest if not all the editing that occurred,
 particularly in the case that the undo feature is no more applicable
 like when lyx is closed.

 Use change tracking. It will change your life :)
 Document  Change Tracking


that's what i just did :D will see how that goes; but from your
experience, does the tracking stay there even when i quite the document
 reopen it ?

thanks

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Bob Merhebi

Thunderbird Signature

LyX: Saves edited version of document as a new version (new file) ?

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello fellow LyXers,

I wonder if LyX can save documents that have been edited as a new
(updated) version of the same file ? For instance, say I have a document
called newdoc.lyx & I am now editing it; I save the
changes/modifications i made & the file is saved as a new one called,
say, newdoc2.lyx

I am interested in this in case one would like to refer to an older
version of a document after changes have been made, or in case of a
mistake involving the modification & saving & quitting of a document,
hence the undo here would not be applicable; this hasn't yet happened to
me, but it happened to a friend of mine to whom I introduced LyX to.

If such a feature is not available I would like to suggest it for a
future version of LyX.

Configuration: LyX 1.6.5 under Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.


P.S.: Please reply to me personally, not just to the lyx mailing list.

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Bob Merhebi

Thunderbird Signature

Re: LyX: Saves edited version of document as a new version (new file) ?

[BOB Merhebi]

On 03/25/2011 09:44 PM, David L. Johnson wrote:
> On 03/25/11 14:54, BOB Merhebi wrote:
>> Hello fellow LyXers,
>>
>> I wonder if LyX can save documents that have been edited as a new
>> (updated) version of the same file ?
>
> I guess I don't understand.  Using "Save As" you can save it
> incrementally with any name you please.  I do this all the time.  But,
> if you want something automatic, you'd get a new filename every time
> you saved.  Are you sure you want that?

indeed, that is what I meant

> I often save a file I am working on several times, so that I don't
> lose too much if, say, the power goes out, or if the computer crashes,
> or if lyx itself crashes.  I would have half a dozen copies by the end
> of the day, and that would eat up a lot of space, and files would
> proliferate.
>

I think you are right in this regard

> Maybe what you really want to enable is something on the order of
> version control, or change tracking.  

I believe this is a possible solution; all I need is being able to
revise the document for the latest if not all the editing that occurred,
particularly in the case that the "undo" feature is no more applicable
like when lyx is closed.

> Look under tools for that; maybe someone who uses it can provide
> suggestions.
>

help is appreciated.

>> P.S.: Please reply to me personally, not just to the lyx mailing list.
>>
> Generally, it is better form, when asking a question of a list, to
> join the list at least until your question is answered.
>
well I did join the list a year ago but until now I hadn't had any
particular question but still I followed the list till a few weeks ago
when I un-subscribed due to the large number of daily digests that
accumulated, hehe

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Ibrahim (Bob) Merhebi

Thunderbird Signature

Re: LyX: Saves edited version of document as a new version (new file) ?

[BOB Merhebi]

On 03/25/2011 10:26 PM, Ingar Pareliussen wrote:
>>> Maybe what you really want to enable is something on the order of
>>> version control, or change tracking.
>> I believe this is a possible solution; all I need is being able to
>> revise the document for the latest if not all the editing that occurred,
>> particularly in the case that the "undo" feature is no more applicable
>> like when lyx is closed.
> Check the section 6.2 in the Help->additional functions in LyX,
> it takes you through how to use the revision control.
>
> It should fit your needs for undo etc, however, some knowledge of
> revisionsystems is helpful...
>
> hth,
> Ingar Pareliussen

I just checked it out; i will thoroughly read it; thanks


On 03/25/2011 10:32 PM, Julien Rioux wrote:
> On 25/03/2011 4:02 PM, BOB Merhebi wrote:
>> I believe this is a possible solution; all I need is being able to
>> revise the document for the latest if not all the editing that occurred,
>> particularly in the case that the "undo" feature is no more applicable
>> like when lyx is closed.
>
> Use change tracking. It will change your life :)
> Document > Change Tracking
>

that's what i just did :D will see how that goes; but from your
experience, does the tracking stay there even when i quite the document
& reopen it ?

thanks

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
-Bob Merhebi

Thunderbird Signature

Re: Help: Newbie writing a report- Help in drawing diagrams particularly circuits

[BOB Merhebi]

Well first thanks for all your replies. I appreciate it.

I managed to get an extension regarding my report till next week thought
with additional reports to write. I did the most obvious solution  thats
using pencil, paper  a scanner. I just installed Dia  will try it tomorrow
hopefully. It seems user-friendly, but in case do you suggest any guide or
help file or is the documentation enough ?

By the way, it seems it doesn't contains any  sheets for physics besides
circuit  ChemEng. Can you help in this please as I have other labs soon
enough in Mechanics  Thermodynamics  Atomic physics?

thanks

Sincerely Yours,
BOB Merhebi


On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Todd Denniston 
todd.dennis...@tsb.cranrdte.navy.mil wrote:

 BOB Merhebi wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
  Hello,
 
  I am a newbie to LyX. I searched most manuals  wikis but could find
 nothing
  about drawing diagrams (physics related). I am in urgent need of help as
 I
  am writing a reports for my physics labs which are due in less than 24
 hrs.
  I particularly need to draw electrical ciruits.
 
  You help is appreciated
  thx

 As others have suggested...
 for low learning curve: stencil sets and pen/paper + a scanner
 for quick but limited computer aided drawing including circuits: dia [can
 export to TeX with
 pstricks or one of the image formats]



 for computer aided schematics (2D circuit diagrams): gschem from the gEDA
 set of tools [output to an
 image format]
 under RHEL/CentOS after you have enabled the EPEL repository it is only a
 `yum install geda-gschem`
 away. I also suggest installing geda-docs.
 AFAIK it is also in fedora in these packages.
 It took a couple of hours to get fairly comfortable with it for me, but I
 had not used a circuit
 editor before, only DIA and a couple of CAD programs.

 --
 Todd Denniston
 Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
 Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter

Re: Help: Newbie writing a report- Help in drawing diagrams particularly circuits

[BOB Merhebi]

Well first thanks for all your replies. I appreciate it.

I managed to get an extension regarding my report till next week thought
with additional reports to write. I did the most obvious solution  thats
using pencil, paper  a scanner. I just installed Dia  will try it tomorrow
hopefully. It seems user-friendly, but in case do you suggest any guide or
help file or is the documentation enough ?

By the way, it seems it doesn't contains any  sheets for physics besides
circuit  ChemEng. Can you help in this please as I have other labs soon
enough in Mechanics  Thermodynamics  Atomic physics?

thanks

Sincerely Yours,
BOB Merhebi


On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Todd Denniston 
todd.dennis...@tsb.cranrdte.navy.mil wrote:

 BOB Merhebi wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
  Hello,
 
  I am a newbie to LyX. I searched most manuals  wikis but could find
 nothing
  about drawing diagrams (physics related). I am in urgent need of help as
 I
  am writing a reports for my physics labs which are due in less than 24
 hrs.
  I particularly need to draw electrical ciruits.
 
  You help is appreciated
  thx

 As others have suggested...
 for low learning curve: stencil sets and pen/paper + a scanner
 for quick but limited computer aided drawing including circuits: dia [can
 export to TeX with
 pstricks or one of the image formats]



 for computer aided schematics (2D circuit diagrams): gschem from the gEDA
 set of tools [output to an
 image format]
 under RHEL/CentOS after you have enabled the EPEL repository it is only a
 `yum install geda-gschem`
 away. I also suggest installing geda-docs.
 AFAIK it is also in fedora in these packages.
 It took a couple of hours to get fairly comfortable with it for me, but I
 had not used a circuit
 editor before, only DIA and a couple of CAD programs.

 --
 Todd Denniston
 Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
 Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter

Re: Help: Newbie writing a report- Help in drawing diagrams particularly circuits

[BOB Merhebi]

Well first thanks for all your replies. I appreciate it.

I managed to get an extension regarding my report till next week thought
with additional reports to write. I did the most obvious solution & thats
using pencil, paper & a scanner. I just installed Dia & will try it tomorrow
hopefully. It seems user-friendly, but in case do you suggest any guide or
help file or is the documentation enough ?

By the way, it seems it doesn't contains any  sheets for physics besides
"circuit" & "ChemEng". Can you help in this please as I have other labs soon
enough in Mechanics & Thermodynamics & Atomic physics?

thanks
----
Sincerely Yours,
BOB Merhebi


On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Todd Denniston <
todd.dennis...@tsb.cranrdte.navy.mil> wrote:

> BOB Merhebi wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am a newbie to LyX. I searched most manuals & wikis but could find
> nothing
> > about drawing diagrams (physics related). I am in urgent need of help as
> I
> > am writing a reports for my physics labs which are due in less than 24
> hrs.
> > I particularly need to draw electrical ciruits.
> >
> > You help is appreciated
> > thx
>
> As others have suggested...
> for low learning curve: stencil sets and pen/paper + a scanner
> for quick but limited computer aided drawing including circuits: dia [can
> export to TeX with
> pstricks or one of the image formats]
>
>
>
> for computer aided schematics (2D circuit diagrams): gschem from the gEDA
> set of tools [output to an
> image format]
> under RHEL/CentOS after you have enabled the EPEL repository it is only a
> `yum install geda-gschem`
> away. I also suggest installing geda-docs.
> AFAIK it is also in fedora in these packages.
> It took a couple of hours to get fairly comfortable with it for me, but I
> had not used a circuit
> editor before, only DIA and a couple of CAD programs.
>
> --
> Todd Denniston
> Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
> Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter
>

Help: Newbie writing a report- Help in drawing diagrams particularly circuits

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello,

I am a newbie to LyX. I searched most manuals  wikis but could find nothing
about drawing diagrams (physics related). I am in urgent need of help as I
am writing a reports for my physics labs which are due in less than 24 hrs.
I particularly need to draw electrical ciruits.

You help is appreciated
thx

Sincerely Yours,
BOB Merhebi

Help: Newbie writing a report- Help in drawing diagrams particularly circuits

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello,

I am a newbie to LyX. I searched most manuals  wikis but could find nothing
about drawing diagrams (physics related). I am in urgent need of help as I
am writing a reports for my physics labs which are due in less than 24 hrs.
I particularly need to draw electrical ciruits.

You help is appreciated
thx

Sincerely Yours,
BOB Merhebi

Help: Newbie writing a report- Help in drawing diagrams particularly circuits

[BOB Merhebi]

Hello,

I am a newbie to LyX. I searched most manuals & wikis but could find nothing
about drawing diagrams (physics related). I am in urgent need of help as I
am writing a reports for my physics labs which are due in less than 24 hrs.
I particularly need to draw electrical ciruits.

You help is appreciated
thx

Sincerely Yours,
BOB Merhebi