Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote: I've tried a google search to find out just what else I can do with bibtex.el. Are you aware of any documentation that describes how it works and what it can do for the user? See here for some tips and a link to online documentation.

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Christian Ridderström wrote: You're welcome... now, if you're into math or astronomy (can't remember which) and want something _really_ cool, they have scripts that can take search criteria from the \cite{}, and use that to go to online databases and retrieve the bibliography entry for you...

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Rafael Cordones Marcos wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: You're welcome... now, if you're into math or astronomy (can't remember which) and want something _really_ cool, they have scripts that can take search criteria from the \cite{}, and use that to go to online

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote: I've tried a google search to find out just what else I can do with bibtex.el. Are you aware of any documentation that describes how it works and what it can do for the user? See here for some tips and a link to online documentation.

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Christian Ridderström wrote: You're welcome... now, if you're into math or astronomy (can't remember which) and want something _really_ cool, they have scripts that can take search criteria from the \cite{}, and use that to go to online databases and retrieve the bibliography entry for you...

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Rafael Cordones Marcos wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: You're welcome... now, if you're into math or astronomy (can't remember which) and want something _really_ cool, they have scripts that can take search criteria from the \cite{}, and use that to go to online

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote: > I've tried a google search to find out just what else I can do with > bibtex.el. Are you aware of any documentation that describes how it works > and what it can do for the user? > See here for some tips and a link to online documentation.

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Christian Ridderström wrote: > You're welcome... now, if you're into math or astronomy (can't remember > which) and want something _really_ cool, they have scripts that can > take search criteria from the \cite{}, and use that to go to online > databases and retrieve the bibliography entry for

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Rafael Cordones Marcos wrote: > Christian Ridderström wrote: > > > You're welcome... now, if you're into math or astronomy (can't remember > > which) and want something _really_ cool, they have scripts that can > > take search criteria from the \cite{}, and use that to go to

Format of bibliographic references

There are two parts to using bibliographic packages: the citation in the text and the full reference in the list (usually) at the end of the document. Every document I have read so far describes the different ways of entering the citation but has nothing about the format of the reference

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Rich Shepard wrote: There are two parts to using bibliographic packages: the citation in the text and the full reference in the list (usually) at the end of the document. Every document I have read so far describes the different ways of entering the citation but has nothing about the

Re: Format of bibliographic references

I have installed natbib and the citations are numeric within square brackets, just as the publisher's example doc shows. However, the listings in the References chapter have a different format from the example doc. So far I have not seen anything that tells me how I can change the latter. A

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: I have here in the TeX distrib a file named natnotes.dvi which gives an overview of the various citation calls. I'm afraid you need ERT to use the variants of the citation command. Nonsense. Open the Layout-Document dialog. If using the Qt frontend select the

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: I have here in the TeX distrib a file named natnotes.dvi which gives an overview of the various citation calls. Thank you, Jean-Pierre. The citation calls are no problem; they are correct. It's the listing of the references that I need to

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Nonsense. Open the Layout-Document dialog. If using the Qt frontend select the Bibliography pane. If using the xforms frontend, select the Extra tab. Select use natbib, choose between Author-Year or Numerical and off you go. The citation dialog will

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Nonsense. Open the Layout-Document dialog. If using the Qt frontend select the Bibliography pane. If using the xforms frontend, select the Extra tab. Select use natbib, choose between Author-Year or Numerical and off you go. The

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Rich, whilst you can indeed use natbib with the bibitems stored directly in the lyx file, I'd heartily recommend that you don't do this. Instead I'd recommend that you use BibTeX to manage your database. Why? Well --- for free --- you'll only list the

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Rich, whilst you can indeed use natbib with the bibitems stored directly in the lyx file, I'd heartily recommend that you don't do this. Instead I'd recommend that you use BibTeX to manage your database. Why? Well --- for free

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Question: is the bibtex file correct? If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do you get any errors? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Christian Ridderström wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Question: is the bibtex file correct? If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do you get any errors? Cl! Thanks, Christian. -- Angus

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Ok, so I surmise that you're using natbib with numerical citation style. Angus, That's correct. Question: is the bibtex file correct? Ie, if you create a latex file from your BibTeX data base can you run it through the latex compiler to generate

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote: If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do you get any errors? Christian, No, I do not. Thanks, Rich -- Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) http://www.appl-ecosys.com

Re: Format of bibliographic references

odesláno mailováno Angus Leeming wrote: Question: is the bibtex file correct? If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do you get any errors? Cl! Thanks, Christian. That was, why I was saying that Emacs bibtex-mode is _much more_ than just editing of the

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Ok, so I surmise that you're using natbib with numerical citation style. Angus, That's correct. Question: is the bibtex file correct? Ie, if you create a latex file from your BibTeX data base can you run it through the

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote: While on this topic, how do I specify (or, where) which .bst to be used? You specify that in the Bibliography-inset (the one that's replaced by the bibliography in the output). /Christian -- Christian Ridderström

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do you get any errors? Cl! Thanks, Christian. You're welcome... now, if you're into math or astronomy (can't remember which) and want

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Matej Cepl wrote: (not that I would be using it any more, but I think, that for BibTeX-beginners it is really gift from heaven). Just out of curiosity, what are you using (instead of Emacs/bibtex-mode)? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström

Re: Format of bibliographic references

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Ridderström wrote: Just out of curiosity, what are you using (instead of Emacs/bibtex-mode)? kvim (not that it is more comfortable than Emacs, but I kind of don't like Emacs at all). However, I am thinking about some reall super-duper

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Nothing attached, but no worries. Oops! Here it is. To create a custom bst file use makebst. It's _really_ easy to use. See makebst.dvi which is probably part of your LaTeX distribution (grep makebst /usr/share/texmf/ls-R) As for where: in the

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: As for where: in the BibTeX inset (The Style == plain bit specifies plain.bst) Aha! The light didn't come on until I received a message from Holger Zebner. At the end of my book, in the References chapter is the grey, BibTeX Generated References.

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote: As a matter of fact, no matter which of the numerous styles presented in that drop-down list, the generated page appears the same to me. But, I think I'm getting closer to understanding and getting the arrangement the publisher wants. Correction:

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Matej Cepl wrote: If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do you get any errors? That was, why I was saying that Emacs bibtex-mode is _much more_ than just editing of the text (not that I would be using it any more, but I think, that for

Re: Format of bibliographic references

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rich Shepard wrote: I've tried a google search to find out just what else I can do with bibtex.el. Are you aware of any documentation that describes how it works and what it can do for the user? Ctrl-h m (or maybe Ctrl-h Ctrl-m, I have not had

Format of bibliographic references

There are two parts to using bibliographic packages: the citation in the text and the full reference in the list (usually) at the end of the document. Every document I have read so far describes the different ways of entering the citation but has nothing about the format of the reference

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Rich Shepard wrote: There are two parts to using bibliographic packages: the citation in the text and the full reference in the list (usually) at the end of the document. Every document I have read so far describes the different ways of entering the citation but has nothing about the

Re: Format of bibliographic references

I have installed natbib and the citations are numeric within square brackets, just as the publisher's example doc shows. However, the listings in the References chapter have a different format from the example doc. So far I have not seen anything that tells me how I can change the latter. A

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: I have here in the TeX distrib a file named natnotes.dvi which gives an overview of the various citation calls. I'm afraid you need ERT to use the variants of the citation command. Nonsense. Open the Layout-Document dialog. If using the Qt frontend select the

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: I have here in the TeX distrib a file named natnotes.dvi which gives an overview of the various citation calls. Thank you, Jean-Pierre. The citation calls are no problem; they are correct. It's the listing of the references that I need to

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Nonsense. Open the Layout-Document dialog. If using the Qt frontend select the Bibliography pane. If using the xforms frontend, select the Extra tab. Select use natbib, choose between Author-Year or Numerical and off you go. The citation dialog will

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Nonsense. Open the Layout-Document dialog. If using the Qt frontend select the Bibliography pane. If using the xforms frontend, select the Extra tab. Select use natbib, choose between Author-Year or Numerical and off you go. The

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Rich, whilst you can indeed use natbib with the bibitems stored directly in the lyx file, I'd heartily recommend that you don't do this. Instead I'd recommend that you use BibTeX to manage your database. Why? Well --- for free --- you'll only list the

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Rich, whilst you can indeed use natbib with the bibitems stored directly in the lyx file, I'd heartily recommend that you don't do this. Instead I'd recommend that you use BibTeX to manage your database. Why? Well --- for free

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Question: is the bibtex file correct? If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do you get any errors? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Christian Ridderström wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Question: is the bibtex file correct? If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do you get any errors? Cl! Thanks, Christian. -- Angus

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Ok, so I surmise that you're using natbib with numerical citation style. Angus, That's correct. Question: is the bibtex file correct? Ie, if you create a latex file from your BibTeX data base can you run it through the latex compiler to generate

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote: If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do you get any errors? Christian, No, I do not. Thanks, Rich -- Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) http://www.appl-ecosys.com

Re: Format of bibliographic references

odesláno mailováno Angus Leeming wrote: Question: is the bibtex file correct? If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do you get any errors? Cl! Thanks, Christian. That was, why I was saying that Emacs bibtex-mode is _much more_ than just editing of the

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Ok, so I surmise that you're using natbib with numerical citation style. Angus, That's correct. Question: is the bibtex file correct? Ie, if you create a latex file from your BibTeX data base can you run it through the

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote: While on this topic, how do I specify (or, where) which .bst to be used? You specify that in the Bibliography-inset (the one that's replaced by the bibliography in the output). /Christian -- Christian Ridderström

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do you get any errors? Cl! Thanks, Christian. You're welcome... now, if you're into math or astronomy (can't remember which) and want

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Matej Cepl wrote: (not that I would be using it any more, but I think, that for BibTeX-beginners it is really gift from heaven). Just out of curiosity, what are you using (instead of Emacs/bibtex-mode)? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström

Re: Format of bibliographic references

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Ridderström wrote: Just out of curiosity, what are you using (instead of Emacs/bibtex-mode)? kvim (not that it is more comfortable than Emacs, but I kind of don't like Emacs at all). However, I am thinking about some reall super-duper

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: Nothing attached, but no worries. Oops! Here it is. To create a custom bst file use makebst. It's _really_ easy to use. See makebst.dvi which is probably part of your LaTeX distribution (grep makebst /usr/share/texmf/ls-R) As for where: in the

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: As for where: in the BibTeX inset (The Style == plain bit specifies plain.bst) Aha! The light didn't come on until I received a message from Holger Zebner. At the end of my book, in the References chapter is the grey, BibTeX Generated References.

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote: As a matter of fact, no matter which of the numerous styles presented in that drop-down list, the generated page appears the same to me. But, I think I'm getting closer to understanding and getting the arrangement the publisher wants. Correction:

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Matej Cepl wrote: If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do you get any errors? That was, why I was saying that Emacs bibtex-mode is _much more_ than just editing of the text (not that I would be using it any more, but I think, that for

Re: Format of bibliographic references

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rich Shepard wrote: I've tried a google search to find out just what else I can do with bibtex.el. Are you aware of any documentation that describes how it works and what it can do for the user? Ctrl-h m (or maybe Ctrl-h Ctrl-m, I have not had

Format of bibliographic references

There are two parts to using bibliographic packages: the citation in the text and the full reference in the list (usually) at the end of the document. Every document I have read so far describes the different ways of entering the citation but has nothing about the format of the reference

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Rich Shepard wrote: > There are two parts to using bibliographic packages: the citation > in the > text and the full reference in the list (usually) at the end of the > document. Every document I have read so far describes the different > ways of entering the citation but has nothing about

Re: Format of bibliographic references

>> I have installed natbib and the citations are numeric within square >>brackets, just as the publisher's example doc shows. However, the listings >>in the References "chapter" have a different format from the example doc. So >>far I have not seen anything that tells me how I can change the

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: > I have here in the TeX distrib a file named natnotes.dvi which gives > an overview of the various citation calls. > > I'm afraid you need ERT to use the variants of the citation command. Nonsense. Open the Layout->Document dialog. If using the Qt frontend select

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: > I have here in the TeX distrib a file named natnotes.dvi which gives > an overview of the various citation calls. Thank you, Jean-Pierre. The citation calls are no problem; they are correct. It's the listing of the references that I need to

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: > Nonsense. Open the Layout->Document dialog. If using the Qt frontend > select the Bibliography pane. If using the xforms frontend, select the > Extra tab. Select "use natbib", choose between "Author-Year" or > "Numerical" and off you go. The citation

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Rich Shepard wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: > >> Nonsense. Open the Layout->Document dialog. If using the Qt >> frontend select the Bibliography pane. If using the xforms >> frontend, select the Extra tab. Select "use natbib", choose between >> "Author-Year" or "Numerical"

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: > Rich, whilst you can indeed use natbib with the bibitems stored > directly in the lyx file, I'd heartily recommend that you don't do > this. Instead I'd recommend that you use BibTeX to manage your > database. Why? Well --- for free --- you'll only list

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Rich Shepard wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: > >> Rich, whilst you can indeed use natbib with the bibitems stored >> directly in the lyx file, I'd heartily recommend that you don't do >> this. Instead I'd recommend that you use BibTeX to manage your >> database. Why? Well ---

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: > Question: is the bibtex file correct? If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do you get any errors? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Christian Ridderström wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: > >> Question: is the bibtex file correct? > > If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do > you get any errors? Cl! Thanks, Christian. -- Angus

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: > Ok, so I surmise that you're using natbib with numerical citation > style. Angus, That's correct. > Question: is the bibtex file correct? Ie, if you create a latex file from > your BibTeX data base can you run it through the latex compiler to >

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote: > If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do you > get any errors? Christian, No, I do not. Thanks, Rich -- Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Angus Leeming wrote: >>> Question: is the bibtex file correct? >> >> If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x >> bibtex-validate, do you get any errors? > > Cl! Thanks, Christian. That was, why I was saying that Emacs bibtex-mode is _much more_ than just

Re: Format of bibliographic references

Rich Shepard wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: > >> Ok, so I surmise that you're using natbib with numerical citation >> style. > > Angus, > > That's correct. > >> Question: is the bibtex file correct? Ie, if you create a latex >> file from your BibTeX data base can you run

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote: > > While on this topic, how do I specify (or, where) which .bst to be used? You specify that in the Bibliography-inset (the one that's replaced by the bibliography in the output). /Christian -- Christian Ridderström

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: > Christian Ridderström wrote: > > > If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do > > you get any errors? > > Cl! Thanks, Christian. You're welcome... now, if you're into math or astronomy (can't remember which) and

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Matej Cepl wrote: > (not that I would be using it any more, but I think, that for > BibTeX-beginners it is really gift> from heaven). Just out of curiosity, what are you using (instead of Emacs/bibtex-mode)? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström

Re: Format of bibliographic references

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Ridderström wrote: > Just out of curiosity, what are you using (instead of > Emacs/bibtex-mode)? kvim (not that it is more comfortable than Emacs, but I kind of don't like Emacs at all). However, I am thinking about some reall super-duper

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: > Nothing attached, but no worries. Oops! Here it is. > To create a custom bst file use makebst. It's _really_ easy to use. See > makebst.dvi which is probably part of your LaTeX distribution (grep > makebst /usr/share/texmf/ls-R) > > As for where: in

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Angus Leeming wrote: > As for where: in the BibTeX inset (The Style == plain bit specifies > plain.bst) Aha! The light didn't come on until I received a message from Holger Zebner. At the end of my book, in the References chapter is the grey, "BibTeX Generated References".

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote: > As a matter of fact, no matter which of the numerous styles presented in > that drop-down list, the generated page appears the same to me. But, I think > I'm getting closer to understanding and getting the arrangement the > publisher wants.

Re: Format of bibliographic references

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Matej Cepl wrote: > >> If you open the bibtex file in Emacs and run M-x bibtex-validate, do > >> you get any errors? > That was, why I was saying that Emacs bibtex-mode is _much more_ than just > editing of the text (not that I would be using it any more, but I think, > that

Re: Format of bibliographic references

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rich Shepard wrote: > I've tried a google search to find out just what else I can > do with bibtex.el. Are you aware of any documentation that > describes how it works and what it can do for the user? Ctrl-h m (or maybe Ctrl-h Ctrl-m, I have not had