RE: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks
Experimenting with LyX 2.4 RC4... Specifically, I'm testing whether there is
Unicode support.
* I have successfully pasted in a Unicode character from VSCode into a LyX
2.4 RC4 document, so this seems to work:
[cid:image001.png@01DA8B60.FFE8A950]
Here, the first symbol is produced in VSCode using "\frakm + TAB", and then
pasted into a LyX text line. The second occurrence (slightly different in
form) is produced as in-line math "\mathfrak{m}".
I can also decorate this symbol with a dot on top, "\frakm + TAB \dot + TAB" in
VSCode. When I paste this symbol into LyX, the dot on top of "\frakm + TAB" is
somewhat skewed to the right.
OK - so Unicode in LyX seems to work. It also works if I preview the document
as a PDF file.
--
Next, I try to use Unicode in listings. That does not work at the moment...
Here is what I do:
* Insert/Program Listing
* I paste the "\frakm + TAB" symbol from VSCode into this box.
* This gives a paste error message:
[cid:image003.png@01DA8B61.C58642D0]
* I then go to Document/Settings/Listings, and change Syntax Highlighting
Package to *minted*, which provides a message:
[cid:image004.png@01DA8B62.5053B550]
I don't understand this message...
* I'm on Windows, and the documentation says that Pygments driver is
installed by default (??). Anyways, reading this warning...
* Where am I supposed to place command "\AtBeginDocument{...}"?? Are we
talking about putting this command in the Document/Settings/LaTeX Preamble
window??? Or should I open the LyX document in an ASCII editor and add the
line... somewhere?
* What is the "driver command", i.e., the string I'm supposed to insert
instead of `driver`? Is it simply `pygmentize`??
* Anyways, for now I just neglect this command, and go to
Tools/Preferences/File Handling/Converters, and scroll down to
[cid:image002.png@01DA8B63.945591F0]
Here I have changed Converter from `pdflatex $$i` to what is shown above.
When I go back to the document and insert a listing, and then paste the Unicode
symbol into the listing, I get the same error message with paste error as shown
at the top of this e-mail.
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So - I'm stuck. The only possible reason for the problem now are:
* I need to find the correct place to insert the string
"\AtBeginDocument..." string with the correct `driver` (whatever that is), and
live with the warning of mint & `-shell-escape` causing a security risk.
Perhaps this will solve the problem.
* Or: it is not possible to use Unicode characters in LyX 2.4 listings.
Any suggestions?
-B
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RE: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks
Ah. OK. -Original Message- From: lyx-users On Behalf Of Pavel Sanda Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 2:51 PM To: lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org; lyx-users Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 12:11:08PM +, Bernt Lie wrote: > > knitr integration... > > Thanks. > > I don't use R, so I guess knitr is not useful to me. I did not mean that you will use R, but that you can check how knitr scripts establish two-way communication street and reuse it for jupyter instead of R Pavel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks
On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 12:11:08PM +, Bernt Lie wrote: > > knitr integration... > > Thanks. > > I don't use R, so I guess knitr is not useful to me. I did not mean that you will use R, but that you can check how knitr scripts establish two-way communication street and reuse it for jupyter instead of R Pavel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
RE: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks
> knitr integration... Thanks. I don't use R, so I guess knitr is not useful to me. [In in the JU corner of Jupyter...] There is also Quarto which is developed in the R community, although it can also be used with other languages. Don't know how Quarto scales to large documents, though... My experience is that Jupyter Notebooks start to become slow with documents in the order of some 30 pages (i.e., with plenty of plots), while LyX is still quick with documents in the order of 1000 pages. -B -Original Message- From: lyx-users On Behalf Of Pavel Sanda Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 11:05 AM To: lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org; lyx-users Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 11:37:48AM -0400, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > On 4/9/24 08:48, Bernt Lie wrote: > >Is there a way to import Jupyter Notebooks into LyX 2.4.0 (when v. 2.4.0 is > >released)? > > > >I'm particularly interested in the possibility to... > > > >* link the notebooks into LyX so that I always get the latest > >version/computations in the notebook, i.e., preferably not a static > >import > > > >* inclusion of mark-up text with headlines, math, etc. > > > >* inclusion of input and output cells, with figures, etc. > > > >* linked-in notebooks would be multipage. Perhaps it should be possible to > >embed the notebooks in some theorem-like environment. > > > >OK -- don't know if this is possible, but it would go a long way towards > >getting a literal programming environment. > > The most plausible way to do this would be to use an external inset. > That's the way that Lilypond files (music) are included, for example. > Such insets are user definable. Basically, you tell LyX how to convert > the file to something LaTeX can process. This is discussed in section > 7.1 of the Embedded Objects manual. You can use the existing xtemplate > files as a starting point, too. You might also want to check how knitr integrates into lyx (basically embedding R code into lyx). Pavel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks
On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 11:37:48AM -0400, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > On 4/9/24 08:48, Bernt Lie wrote: > >Is there a way to import Jupyter Notebooks into LyX 2.4.0 (when v. 2.4.0 is > >released)? > > > >I'm particularly interested in the possibility to... > > > >* link the notebooks into LyX so that I always get the latest > >version/computations in the notebook, i.e., preferably not a static import > > > >* inclusion of mark-up text with headlines, math, etc. > > > >* inclusion of input and output cells, with figures, etc. > > > >* linked-in notebooks would be multipage. Perhaps it should be possible to > >embed the notebooks in some theorem-like environment. > > > >OK -- don't know if this is possible, but it would go a long way towards > >getting a literal programming environment. > > The most plausible way to do this would be to use an external inset. That's > the way that Lilypond files (music) are included, for example. Such insets > are user definable. Basically, you tell LyX how to convert the file to > something LaTeX can process. This is discussed in section 7.1 of the > Embedded Objects manual. You can use the existing xtemplate files as a > starting point, too. You might also want to check how knitr integrates into lyx (basically embedding R code into lyx). Pavel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks
On 4/9/24 15:59, Bernt Lie wrote: OK -- so I could just as well start using RC4? I have been using the master branch for regular work for well over a year. My recent book https://academic.oup.com/book/56184 was produced using it. I.e., the book was printed from a PDF I provided to OUP. So it's entirely usable. I'm not super software savvy, so I have been hesitant not knowing: * Can I install RC4 and still use LyX 2.7.1? That may depend upon your OS, but someone else should be able to say. The one thing you have to do is keep the user directories separate. * Do I have to uninstall RC4 and install the official release when it becomes available? Again, that will depend upon your OS. * With 2.7.1, I have used MikTeX. Should I still use MikTeX, or use something else? (Does MikTeX also come with LuaTeX, XeTeX, TeXLive, or whatever?) The background TeX installation should not matter. They all have the same bits. (TeXLive, though, is an alternative to MikTeX.) Riki -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
RE: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks
OK -- so I could just as well start using RC4? I'm not super software savvy, so I have been hesitant not knowing: * Can I install RC4 and still use LyX 2.7.1? * Do I have to uninstall RC4 and install the official release when it becomes available? * With 2.7.1, I have used MikTeX. Should I still use MikTeX, or use something else? (Does MikTeX also come with LuaTeX, XeTeX, TeXLive, or whatever?) If these three bullet points do not cause any problems, I may try to download and use RC4. -Original Message- From: Richard Kimberly Heck Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 9:51 PM To: Bernt Lie ; LyX Developers ; lyx-users Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks On 4/9/24 12:00, Bernt Lie wrote: > Thanks. Will look at it when the new version is released. I don't think there have been any major changes in that machinery. And there definitely won't be any before the final release. Changes from RC4 to the official release are going to be pretty minor (as one would hope). Riki > -Original Message- > From: Richard Kimberly Heck > Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 5:38 PM > To: Bernt Lie ; LyX Developers > ; lyx-users > Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks > > On 4/9/24 08:48, Bernt Lie wrote: >> Is there a way to import Jupyter Notebooks into LyX 2.4.0 (when v. 2.4.0 is >> released)? >> >> I'm particularly interested in the possibility to... >> >> * link the notebooks into LyX so that I always get the latest >> version/computations in the notebook, i.e., preferably not a static >> import >> >> * inclusion of mark-up text with headlines, math, etc. >> >> * inclusion of input and output cells, with figures, etc. >> >> * linked-in notebooks would be multipage. Perhaps it should be possible to >> embed the notebooks in some theorem-like environment. >> >> OK -- don't know if this is possible, but it would go a long way towards >> getting a literal programming environment. > The most plausible way to do this would be to use an external inset. > That's the way that Lilypond files (music) are included, for example. > Such insets are user definable. Basically, you tell LyX how to convert > the file to something LaTeX can process. This is discussed in section > 7.1 of the Embedded Objects manual. You can use the existing xtemplate files > as a starting point, too. > > Riki > > -- Richard Kimberly (Riki) Heck Professor of Philosophy Brown University Pronouns: they/them/their Website: http://rkheck.frege.org/ -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks
On 4/9/24 12:00, Bernt Lie wrote: Thanks. Will look at it when the new version is released. I don't think there have been any major changes in that machinery. And there definitely won't be any before the final release. Changes from RC4 to the official release are going to be pretty minor (as one would hope). Riki -Original Message- From: Richard Kimberly Heck Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 5:38 PM To: Bernt Lie ; LyX Developers ; lyx-users Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks On 4/9/24 08:48, Bernt Lie wrote: Is there a way to import Jupyter Notebooks into LyX 2.4.0 (when v. 2.4.0 is released)? I'm particularly interested in the possibility to... * link the notebooks into LyX so that I always get the latest version/computations in the notebook, i.e., preferably not a static import * inclusion of mark-up text with headlines, math, etc. * inclusion of input and output cells, with figures, etc. * linked-in notebooks would be multipage. Perhaps it should be possible to embed the notebooks in some theorem-like environment. OK -- don't know if this is possible, but it would go a long way towards getting a literal programming environment. The most plausible way to do this would be to use an external inset. That's the way that Lilypond files (music) are included, for example. Such insets are user definable. Basically, you tell LyX how to convert the file to something LaTeX can process. This is discussed in section 7.1 of the Embedded Objects manual. You can use the existing xtemplate files as a starting point, too. Riki -- Richard Kimberly (Riki) Heck Professor of Philosophy Brown University Pronouns: they/them/their Website: http://rkheck.frege.org/ -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
RE: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks
Thanks. Will look at it when the new version is released. -Original Message- From: Richard Kimberly Heck Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 5:38 PM To: Bernt Lie ; LyX Developers ; lyx-users Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks On 4/9/24 08:48, Bernt Lie wrote: > Is there a way to import Jupyter Notebooks into LyX 2.4.0 (when v. 2.4.0 is > released)? > > I'm particularly interested in the possibility to... > > * link the notebooks into LyX so that I always get the latest > version/computations in the notebook, i.e., preferably not a static > import > > * inclusion of mark-up text with headlines, math, etc. > > * inclusion of input and output cells, with figures, etc. > > * linked-in notebooks would be multipage. Perhaps it should be possible to > embed the notebooks in some theorem-like environment. > > OK -- don't know if this is possible, but it would go a long way towards > getting a literal programming environment. The most plausible way to do this would be to use an external inset. That's the way that Lilypond files (music) are included, for example. Such insets are user definable. Basically, you tell LyX how to convert the file to something LaTeX can process. This is discussed in section 7.1 of the Embedded Objects manual. You can use the existing xtemplate files as a starting point, too. Riki -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks
On 4/9/24 08:48, Bernt Lie wrote: Is there a way to import Jupyter Notebooks into LyX 2.4.0 (when v. 2.4.0 is released)? I'm particularly interested in the possibility to... * link the notebooks into LyX so that I always get the latest version/computations in the notebook, i.e., preferably not a static import * inclusion of mark-up text with headlines, math, etc. * inclusion of input and output cells, with figures, etc. * linked-in notebooks would be multipage. Perhaps it should be possible to embed the notebooks in some theorem-like environment. OK -- don't know if this is possible, but it would go a long way towards getting a literal programming environment. The most plausible way to do this would be to use an external inset. That's the way that Lilypond files (music) are included, for example. Such insets are user definable. Basically, you tell LyX how to convert the file to something LaTeX can process. This is discussed in section 7.1 of the Embedded Objects manual. You can use the existing xtemplate files as a starting point, too. Riki -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks
Is there a way to import Jupyter Notebooks into LyX 2.4.0 (when v. 2.4.0 is released)? I'm particularly interested in the possibility to... * link the notebooks into LyX so that I always get the latest version/computations in the notebook, i.e., preferably not a static import * inclusion of mark-up text with headlines, math, etc. * inclusion of input and output cells, with figures, etc. * linked-in notebooks would be multipage. Perhaps it should be possible to embed the notebooks in some theorem-like environment. OK -- don't know if this is possible, but it would go a long way towards getting a literal programming environment. -B -Original Message- From: lyx-users On Behalf Of Rich Shepard Sent: Monday, April 1, 2024 11:58 PM To: LyX Developers ; lyx-users Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 On Sun, 31 Mar 2024, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > What we hope will be the final release candidate for 2.4.0 is now > available > here: > http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.4/ > > Please report bugs to lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org. Riki, Just upgraded from 2.3.7.1 to 2.4.0~RC4 on Slackware64-15.0 on a ThinkPad T430; no bugs seen crawling around. The issues that bugged me in 2.3.6.2 and 2.3.7.1 (not finding biblatex.sty and biber, needing to use the File menu to export a pdflatex because c-x h wouldn't work) are gone. I had a concern about Tools -> Preferences -> Look & Feel -> Display showed Default when I use emacs turned out that (at least on my system) emacs key chords are the default. Congratulations and many thanks to all devs. Best regards, Rich -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
