Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Radji rahim]

It is very interesting your DVD ,it is the dvd i was looking for for a long 
time.
But did you tried to install the ubuntu from it ???
Certainly You Didn't ,because there is an error ,and a an image is the 
describing at this link:
http://hpics.li/6e16661
Don't say me it is from installation support , because i try it from dvd,from 
hard disk, from usb key and from virtual iso image .
the ubuntu in the iso is certainly corrupted or has missing files.

Here is my email if you want to suggest me something.
And thank you very match for the best authoring DVD i have ever seen.

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Radji rahim]

It is very interesting your DVD ,it is the dvd i was looking for for a long 
time.
But did you tried to install the ubuntu from it ???
Certainly You Didn't ,because there is an error ,and a an image is the 
describing at this link:
http://hpics.li/6e16661
Don't say me it is from installation support , because i try it from dvd,from 
hard disk, from usb key and from virtual iso image .
the ubuntu in the iso is certainly corrupted or has missing files.

Here is my email if you want to suggest me something.
And thank you very match for the best authoring DVD i have ever seen.

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Radji rahim]

It is very interesting your DVD ,it is the dvd i was looking for for a long 
time.
But did you tried to install the ubuntu from it ???
Certainly You Didn't ,because there is an error ,and a an image is the 
describing at this link:
http://hpics.li/6e16661
Don't say me it is from installation support , because i try it from dvd,from 
hard disk, from usb key and from virtual iso image .
the ubuntu in the iso is certainly corrupted or has missing files.

Here is my email if you want to suggest me something.
And thank you very match for the best authoring DVD i have ever seen.

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Rainer M Krug]

Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org writes:

 On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:

 As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
 nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as well
 as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
 causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.

 Some things I think would be useful in the script:

 1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations (2012,
 2013)

 This will be implemented (that is, when you install you can choose
 2012 or 2013).

I was actually thinking about installing different versions into
different directories, and then being able to switch between different
installed versions. I remember that there was a function in TeX Live to
create or delete links to a specified installation, but I don't remember
what it was.


 2) the possibility to switch between local and systemwide texlive
 installation

 Good suggestion, but won't be in the first version of the script.

No problem - as long as it is on the ToDo list - but it should be very
similar to the point above.


 3) the possibility to de-install the local installation.

 This won't be in the first version either.

If you install one version in one directory, it should be as simple as
removing the links to that version (via that command I don't
remember...) and deleting that directory.


 4) the possibility to install the complete TeX Live

 This will be the default. I might add support to use a custom profile.

That should be fine for the beginning.


 If these features would be included, this would most definitely be a
 very useful script.

 I'm not sure if all of these will be included. I'm happy to maintain
 the script and add features, but first I just want to get out an alpha
 version for brave testers. I will put everything on github and will
 accept patches if you are up for implementing something.

Yes please - this is something which, could be put into a package for
Ubuntu. A *very* useful addition. Please let us know as soon as it is on
github.

 

 Thanks for the suggestions,

Pleasure - I like to contribute to the tools which I will be using...

Cheers,

Rainer



 Scott


-- 
Rainer M. Krug

email: RMKrugatgmaildotcom


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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:
 I'm not sure if all of these will be included. I'm happy to maintain
 the script and add features, but first I just want to get out an alpha
 version for brave testers. I will put everything on github and will
 accept patches if you are up for implementing something.

 Yes please - this is something which, could be put into a package for
 Ubuntu. A *very* useful addition. Please let us know as soon as it is on
 github.

I'm also very interested in this. If we can come up with something
packageable and distributeable (i.e., it shouldn't break people's
documents), then I'd be happy to include it in the Ubuntu PPA.

Liviu

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Rainer M Krug]

Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com writes:

 On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:
 I'm not sure if all of these will be included. I'm happy to maintain
 the script and add features, but first I just want to get out an alpha
 version for brave testers. I will put everything on github and will
 accept patches if you are up for implementing something.

 Yes please - this is something which, could be put into a package for
 Ubuntu. A *very* useful addition. Please let us know as soon as it is on
 github.

 I'm also very interested in this. If we can come up with something
 packageable and distributeable (i.e., it shouldn't break people's
 documents), then I'd be happy to include it in the Ubuntu PPA.

Brilliant - thanks.

Rainer


 Liviu



-- 
Rainer M. Krug

email: RMKrugatgmaildotcom


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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[stefano franchi]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:


 Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org writes:

  On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:
 
  As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
  nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as well
  as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
  causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.
 
  Some things I think would be useful in the script:
 
  1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations (2012,
  2013)
 
  This will be implemented (that is, when you install you can choose
  2012 or 2013).

 I was actually thinking about installing different versions into
 different directories, and then being able to switch between different
 installed versions. I remember that there was a function in TeX Live to
 create or delete links to a specified installation, but I don't remember
 what it was.


Isn't this TL's default behavior (at least on linux)? I mean: a new
installation of  TeXLive 20NN will not  erase the old one, it will just
create a new  /20NN subtree  under /usr/local/texlive. I currently have
three such subtrees there: 2010, 2011, and 2012. Which subtree is chosen
depends on which dir comes first in the PATH variable.
But perhaps I misunderstood.


Cheers,

Stefano

-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Rainer M Krug]

On Friday, June 14, 2013, stefano franchi wrote:




 On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Rainer M Krug 
 rai...@krugs.dejavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'rai...@krugs.de');
  wrote:


 Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
 'skost...@lyx.org'); writes:

  On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Rainer M Krug 
  rai...@krugs.dejavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'rai...@krugs.de');
 wrote:
 
  As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
  nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as
 well
  as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
  causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.
 
  Some things I think would be useful in the script:
 
  1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations
 (2012,
  2013)
 
  This will be implemented (that is, when you install you can choose
  2012 or 2013).

 I was actually thinking about installing different versions into
 different directories, and then being able to switch between different
 installed versions. I remember that there was a function in TeX Live to
 create or delete links to a specified installation, but I don't remember
 what it was.


 Isn't this TL's default behavior (at least on linux)? I mean: a new
 installation of  TeXLive 20NN will not  erase the old one, it will just
 create a new  /20NN subtree  under /usr/local/texlive. I currently have
 three such subtrees there: 2010, 2011, and 2012. Which subtree is chosen
 depends on which dir comes first in the PATH variable.


This is true - but everything can be overwritten. So the default should be
kept.

Cheers,

Rainer



 But perhaps I misunderstood.




 Cheers,

 Stefano





 --
 __
 Stefano Franchi
 Associate Research Professor
 Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
 Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
 College Station, Texas, USA

 stef...@tamu.edu javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'stef...@tamu.edu');
 http://stefano.cleinias.org



-- 
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

Tel :   +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell:   +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax (F):   +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44

email:  rai...@krugs.de

Skype:  RMkrug

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:07 AM, stefano franchi
stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote:
 Isn't this TL's default behavior (at least on linux)? I mean: a new
 installation of  TeXLive 20NN will not  erase the old one, it will just
 create a new  /20NN subtree  under /usr/local/texlive. I currently have
 three such subtrees there: 2010, 2011, and 2012. Which subtree is chosen
 depends on which dir comes first in the PATH variable.
 But perhaps I misunderstood.

This is good to know. Thanks, Stefano. I've never dealt with parallel
TeX Live versions but you are right that it's actually pretty
straightforward.

Scott

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:
 I was actually thinking about installing different versions into
 different directories, and then being able to switch between different
 installed versions. I remember that there was a function in TeX Live to
 create or delete links to a specified installation, but I don't remember
 what it was.

I don't think the script will deal with this directly, but I'll keep
this in mind when making the script. For example, the script does more
than install TeX Live (see below) but options should make it so that
if you want to only install TeX Live, you can do that.

 3) the possibility to de-install the local installation.

 This won't be in the first version either.

 If you install one version in one directory, it should be as simple as
 removing the links to that version (via that command I don't
 remember...) and deleting that directory.

In theory it should be as simple as you suggest. But in practice, the
script implements some hacks to make things work better with Ubuntu.
For example it uses equivs so that if you install LyX with apt-get,
apt won't try to install all of the texlive packages. Uninstall would
just have to remember to remove the equivs packages. But there are
some other hacks that I don't know how easy they are to reverse. I
agree that eventually a uninstall should be implemented. Please remind
me in a Github issue whenever I make the repository.

 Yes please - this is something which, could be put into a package for
 Ubuntu. A *very* useful addition. Please let us know as soon as it is on
 github.

This will depend on how rough of an Alpha I want to release. Hopefully
I can give you something that you can play with in two weeks. First,
please run this on a system you don't care about (e.g. a virtual
machine or Amazon EC2).

Scott

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Rainer M Krug]

Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org writes:

 On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:

 As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
 nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as well
 as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
 causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.

 Some things I think would be useful in the script:

 1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations (2012,
 2013)

 This will be implemented (that is, when you install you can choose
 2012 or 2013).

I was actually thinking about installing different versions into
different directories, and then being able to switch between different
installed versions. I remember that there was a function in TeX Live to
create or delete links to a specified installation, but I don't remember
what it was.


 2) the possibility to switch between local and systemwide texlive
 installation

 Good suggestion, but won't be in the first version of the script.

No problem - as long as it is on the ToDo list - but it should be very
similar to the point above.


 3) the possibility to de-install the local installation.

 This won't be in the first version either.

If you install one version in one directory, it should be as simple as
removing the links to that version (via that command I don't
remember...) and deleting that directory.


 4) the possibility to install the complete TeX Live

 This will be the default. I might add support to use a custom profile.

That should be fine for the beginning.


 If these features would be included, this would most definitely be a
 very useful script.

 I'm not sure if all of these will be included. I'm happy to maintain
 the script and add features, but first I just want to get out an alpha
 version for brave testers. I will put everything on github and will
 accept patches if you are up for implementing something.

Yes please - this is something which, could be put into a package for
Ubuntu. A *very* useful addition. Please let us know as soon as it is on
github.

 

 Thanks for the suggestions,

Pleasure - I like to contribute to the tools which I will be using...

Cheers,

Rainer



 Scott


-- 
Rainer M. Krug

email: RMKrugatgmaildotcom


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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:
 I'm not sure if all of these will be included. I'm happy to maintain
 the script and add features, but first I just want to get out an alpha
 version for brave testers. I will put everything on github and will
 accept patches if you are up for implementing something.

 Yes please - this is something which, could be put into a package for
 Ubuntu. A *very* useful addition. Please let us know as soon as it is on
 github.

I'm also very interested in this. If we can come up with something
packageable and distributeable (i.e., it shouldn't break people's
documents), then I'd be happy to include it in the Ubuntu PPA.

Liviu

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Rainer M Krug]

Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com writes:

 On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:
 I'm not sure if all of these will be included. I'm happy to maintain
 the script and add features, but first I just want to get out an alpha
 version for brave testers. I will put everything on github and will
 accept patches if you are up for implementing something.

 Yes please - this is something which, could be put into a package for
 Ubuntu. A *very* useful addition. Please let us know as soon as it is on
 github.

 I'm also very interested in this. If we can come up with something
 packageable and distributeable (i.e., it shouldn't break people's
 documents), then I'd be happy to include it in the Ubuntu PPA.

Brilliant - thanks.

Rainer


 Liviu



-- 
Rainer M. Krug

email: RMKrugatgmaildotcom


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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[stefano franchi]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:


 Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org writes:

  On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:
 
  As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
  nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as well
  as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
  causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.
 
  Some things I think would be useful in the script:
 
  1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations (2012,
  2013)
 
  This will be implemented (that is, when you install you can choose
  2012 or 2013).

 I was actually thinking about installing different versions into
 different directories, and then being able to switch between different
 installed versions. I remember that there was a function in TeX Live to
 create or delete links to a specified installation, but I don't remember
 what it was.


Isn't this TL's default behavior (at least on linux)? I mean: a new
installation of  TeXLive 20NN will not  erase the old one, it will just
create a new  /20NN subtree  under /usr/local/texlive. I currently have
three such subtrees there: 2010, 2011, and 2012. Which subtree is chosen
depends on which dir comes first in the PATH variable.
But perhaps I misunderstood.


Cheers,

Stefano

-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Rainer M Krug]

On Friday, June 14, 2013, stefano franchi wrote:




 On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Rainer M Krug 
 rai...@krugs.dejavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'rai...@krugs.de');
  wrote:


 Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
 'skost...@lyx.org'); writes:

  On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Rainer M Krug 
  rai...@krugs.dejavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'rai...@krugs.de');
 wrote:
 
  As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
  nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as
 well
  as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
  causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.
 
  Some things I think would be useful in the script:
 
  1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations
 (2012,
  2013)
 
  This will be implemented (that is, when you install you can choose
  2012 or 2013).

 I was actually thinking about installing different versions into
 different directories, and then being able to switch between different
 installed versions. I remember that there was a function in TeX Live to
 create or delete links to a specified installation, but I don't remember
 what it was.


 Isn't this TL's default behavior (at least on linux)? I mean: a new
 installation of  TeXLive 20NN will not  erase the old one, it will just
 create a new  /20NN subtree  under /usr/local/texlive. I currently have
 three such subtrees there: 2010, 2011, and 2012. Which subtree is chosen
 depends on which dir comes first in the PATH variable.


This is true - but everything can be overwritten. So the default should be
kept.

Cheers,

Rainer



 But perhaps I misunderstood.




 Cheers,

 Stefano





 --
 __
 Stefano Franchi
 Associate Research Professor
 Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
 Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
 College Station, Texas, USA

 stef...@tamu.edu javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'stef...@tamu.edu');
 http://stefano.cleinias.org



-- 
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology,
UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

Tel :   +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell:   +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax (F):   +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44

email:  rai...@krugs.de

Skype:  RMkrug

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:07 AM, stefano franchi
stefano.fran...@gmail.com wrote:
 Isn't this TL's default behavior (at least on linux)? I mean: a new
 installation of  TeXLive 20NN will not  erase the old one, it will just
 create a new  /20NN subtree  under /usr/local/texlive. I currently have
 three such subtrees there: 2010, 2011, and 2012. Which subtree is chosen
 depends on which dir comes first in the PATH variable.
 But perhaps I misunderstood.

This is good to know. Thanks, Stefano. I've never dealt with parallel
TeX Live versions but you are right that it's actually pretty
straightforward.

Scott

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:
 I was actually thinking about installing different versions into
 different directories, and then being able to switch between different
 installed versions. I remember that there was a function in TeX Live to
 create or delete links to a specified installation, but I don't remember
 what it was.

I don't think the script will deal with this directly, but I'll keep
this in mind when making the script. For example, the script does more
than install TeX Live (see below) but options should make it so that
if you want to only install TeX Live, you can do that.

 3) the possibility to de-install the local installation.

 This won't be in the first version either.

 If you install one version in one directory, it should be as simple as
 removing the links to that version (via that command I don't
 remember...) and deleting that directory.

In theory it should be as simple as you suggest. But in practice, the
script implements some hacks to make things work better with Ubuntu.
For example it uses equivs so that if you install LyX with apt-get,
apt won't try to install all of the texlive packages. Uninstall would
just have to remember to remove the equivs packages. But there are
some other hacks that I don't know how easy they are to reverse. I
agree that eventually a uninstall should be implemented. Please remind
me in a Github issue whenever I make the repository.

 Yes please - this is something which, could be put into a package for
 Ubuntu. A *very* useful addition. Please let us know as soon as it is on
 github.

This will depend on how rough of an Alpha I want to release. Hopefully
I can give you something that you can play with in two weeks. First,
please run this on a system you don't care about (e.g. a virtual
machine or Amazon EC2).

Scott

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Rainer M Krug]

Scott Kostyshak  writes:

> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
>>
>> As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
>> nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as well
>> as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
>> causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.
>>
>> Some things I think would be useful in the script:
>>
>> 1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations (2012,
>> 2013)
>
> This will be implemented (that is, when you install you can choose
> 2012 or 2013).

I was actually thinking about installing different versions into
different directories, and then being able to switch between different
installed versions. I remember that there was a function in TeX Live to
create or delete links to a specified installation, but I don't remember
what it was.

>
>> 2) the possibility to switch between local and systemwide texlive
>> installation
>
> Good suggestion, but won't be in the first version of the script.

No problem - as long as it is on the ToDo list - but it should be very
similar to the point above.

>
>> 3) the possibility to de-install the local installation.
>
> This won't be in the first version either.

If you install one version in one directory, it should be as simple as
removing the links to that version (via that command I don't
remember...) and deleting that directory.

>
>> 4) the possibility to install the complete TeX Live
>
> This will be the default. I might add support to use a custom profile.

That should be fine for the beginning.

>
>> If these features would be included, this would most definitely be a
>> very useful script.
>
> I'm not sure if all of these will be included. I'm happy to maintain
> the script and add features, but first I just want to get out an alpha
> version for brave testers. I will put everything on github and will
> accept patches if you are up for implementing something.

Yes please - this is something which, could be put into a package for
Ubuntu. A *very* useful addition. Please let us know as soon as it is on
github.

 
>
> Thanks for the suggestions,

Pleasure - I like to contribute to the tools which I will be using...

Cheers,

Rainer


>
> Scott
>

-- 
Rainer M. Krug

email: RMKruggmailcom


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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
>> I'm not sure if all of these will be included. I'm happy to maintain
>> the script and add features, but first I just want to get out an alpha
>> version for brave testers. I will put everything on github and will
>> accept patches if you are up for implementing something.
>
> Yes please - this is something which, could be put into a package for
> Ubuntu. A *very* useful addition. Please let us know as soon as it is on
> github.
>
I'm also very interested in this. If we can come up with something
packageable and distributeable (i.e., it shouldn't break people's
documents), then I'd be happy to include it in the Ubuntu PPA.

Liviu

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Rainer M Krug]

Liviu Andronic  writes:

> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
>>> I'm not sure if all of these will be included. I'm happy to maintain
>>> the script and add features, but first I just want to get out an alpha
>>> version for brave testers. I will put everything on github and will
>>> accept patches if you are up for implementing something.
>>
>> Yes please - this is something which, could be put into a package for
>> Ubuntu. A *very* useful addition. Please let us know as soon as it is on
>> github.
>>
> I'm also very interested in this. If we can come up with something
> packageable and distributeable (i.e., it shouldn't break people's
> documents), then I'd be happy to include it in the Ubuntu PPA.

Brilliant - thanks.

Rainer

>
> Liviu
>


-- 
Rainer M. Krug

email: RMKruggmailcom


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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[stefano franchi]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:

>
> Scott Kostyshak  writes:
>
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
> >>
> >> As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
> >> nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as well
> >> as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
> >> causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.
> >>
> >> Some things I think would be useful in the script:
> >>
> >> 1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations (2012,
> >> 2013)
> >
> > This will be implemented (that is, when you install you can choose
> > 2012 or 2013).
>
> I was actually thinking about installing different versions into
> different directories, and then being able to switch between different
> installed versions. I remember that there was a function in TeX Live to
> create or delete links to a specified installation, but I don't remember
> what it was.
>
>
Isn't this TL's default behavior (at least on linux)? I mean: a new
installation of  TeXLive 20NN will not  erase the old one, it will just
create a new  /20NN subtree  under /usr/local/texlive. I currently have
three such subtrees there: 2010, 2011, and 2012. Which subtree is chosen
depends on which dir comes first in the PATH variable.
But perhaps I misunderstood.


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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Rainer M Krug]

On Friday, June 14, 2013, stefano franchi wrote:

>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Rainer M Krug 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Scott Kostyshak > 'skost...@lyx.org');>> writes:
>>
>> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Rainer M Krug 
>> > >
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
>> >> nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as
>> well
>> >> as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
>> >> causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.
>> >>
>> >> Some things I think would be useful in the script:
>> >>
>> >> 1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations
>> (2012,
>> >> 2013)
>> >
>> > This will be implemented (that is, when you install you can choose
>> > 2012 or 2013).
>>
>> I was actually thinking about installing different versions into
>> different directories, and then being able to switch between different
>> installed versions. I remember that there was a function in TeX Live to
>> create or delete links to a specified installation, but I don't remember
>> what it was.
>>
>>
> Isn't this TL's default behavior (at least on linux)? I mean: a new
> installation of  TeXLive 20NN will not  erase the old one, it will just
> create a new  /20NN subtree  under /usr/local/texlive. I currently have
> three such subtrees there: 2010, 2011, and 2012. Which subtree is chosen
> depends on which dir comes first in the PATH variable.
>

This is true - but everything can be overwritten. So the default should be
kept.

Cheers,

Rainer



> But perhaps I misunderstood.
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefano
>



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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:07 AM, stefano franchi
 wrote:
> Isn't this TL's default behavior (at least on linux)? I mean: a new
> installation of  TeXLive 20NN will not  erase the old one, it will just
> create a new  /20NN subtree  under /usr/local/texlive. I currently have
> three such subtrees there: 2010, 2011, and 2012. Which subtree is chosen
> depends on which dir comes first in the PATH variable.
> But perhaps I misunderstood.

This is good to know. Thanks, Stefano. I've never dealt with parallel
TeX Live versions but you are right that it's actually pretty
straightforward.

Scott

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
> I was actually thinking about installing different versions into
> different directories, and then being able to switch between different
> installed versions. I remember that there was a function in TeX Live to
> create or delete links to a specified installation, but I don't remember
> what it was.

I don't think the script will deal with this directly, but I'll keep
this in mind when making the script. For example, the script does more
than install TeX Live (see below) but options should make it so that
if you want to only install TeX Live, you can do that.

>>> 3) the possibility to de-install the local installation.
>>
>> This won't be in the first version either.
>
> If you install one version in one directory, it should be as simple as
> removing the links to that version (via that command I don't
> remember...) and deleting that directory.

In theory it should be as simple as you suggest. But in practice, the
script implements some hacks to make things work better with Ubuntu.
For example it uses equivs so that if you install LyX with apt-get,
apt won't try to install all of the texlive packages. Uninstall would
just have to remember to remove the equivs packages. But there are
some other hacks that I don't know how easy they are to reverse. I
agree that eventually a uninstall should be implemented. Please remind
me in a Github issue whenever I make the repository.

> Yes please - this is something which, could be put into a package for
> Ubuntu. A *very* useful addition. Please let us know as soon as it is on
> github.

This will depend on how rough of an Alpha I want to release. Hopefully
I can give you something that you can play with in two weeks. First,
please run this on a system you don't care about (e.g. a virtual
machine or Amazon EC2).

Scott

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Rainer M Krug]

Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org writes:

 On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal jayneil.da...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi,

 Sorry for posting so late about this. I gave a talk on Lyx at Linuxfest
 Northwest 2013:


 http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
 alternative-latex

 I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:

 https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/

 It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
 installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.

 I am working on a bash script that installs TeX Live 2012 (or 2013 if
 you prefer) manually in Ubuntu 12.04 through 13.04. Having a manual
 install of TeX Live is nice because it allows for one to have more
 control over the installation and specifically updating packages (e.g.
 tlmgr). The script also (optionally) installs all dependencies of the
 LyX examples and templates. Finally, the script tests that all of the
 examples and templates are compilable. This way the user can open any
 template, example, or help document in any language and it will
 compile.

 Let me know if you are interested in testing.

As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as well
as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.

Some things I think would be useful in the script:

1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations (2012,
2013)

2) the possibility to switch between local and systemwide texlive
installation

3) the possibility to de-install the local installation.

4) the possibility to install the complete TeX Live

If these features would be included, this would most definitely be a
very useful script.

Cheers,

Rainer



 Scott


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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:

 As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
 nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as well
 as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
 causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.

 Some things I think would be useful in the script:

 1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations (2012,
 2013)

This will be implemented (that is, when you install you can choose
2012 or 2013).

 2) the possibility to switch between local and systemwide texlive
 installation

Good suggestion, but won't be in the first version of the script.

 3) the possibility to de-install the local installation.

This won't be in the first version either.

 4) the possibility to install the complete TeX Live

This will be the default. I might add support to use a custom profile.

 If these features would be included, this would most definitely be a
 very useful script.

I'm not sure if all of these will be included. I'm happy to maintain
the script and add features, but first I just want to get out an alpha
version for brave testers. I will put everything on github and will
accept patches if you are up for implementing something.

Thanks for the suggestions,

Scott

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Rainer M Krug]

Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org writes:

 On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal jayneil.da...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi,

 Sorry for posting so late about this. I gave a talk on Lyx at Linuxfest
 Northwest 2013:


 http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
 alternative-latex

 I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:

 https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/

 It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
 installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.

 I am working on a bash script that installs TeX Live 2012 (or 2013 if
 you prefer) manually in Ubuntu 12.04 through 13.04. Having a manual
 install of TeX Live is nice because it allows for one to have more
 control over the installation and specifically updating packages (e.g.
 tlmgr). The script also (optionally) installs all dependencies of the
 LyX examples and templates. Finally, the script tests that all of the
 examples and templates are compilable. This way the user can open any
 template, example, or help document in any language and it will
 compile.

 Let me know if you are interested in testing.

As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as well
as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.

Some things I think would be useful in the script:

1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations (2012,
2013)

2) the possibility to switch between local and systemwide texlive
installation

3) the possibility to de-install the local installation.

4) the possibility to install the complete TeX Live

If these features would be included, this would most definitely be a
very useful script.

Cheers,

Rainer



 Scott


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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de wrote:

 As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
 nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as well
 as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
 causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.

 Some things I think would be useful in the script:

 1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations (2012,
 2013)

This will be implemented (that is, when you install you can choose
2012 or 2013).

 2) the possibility to switch between local and systemwide texlive
 installation

Good suggestion, but won't be in the first version of the script.

 3) the possibility to de-install the local installation.

This won't be in the first version either.

 4) the possibility to install the complete TeX Live

This will be the default. I might add support to use a custom profile.

 If these features would be included, this would most definitely be a
 very useful script.

I'm not sure if all of these will be included. I'm happy to maintain
the script and add features, but first I just want to get out an alpha
version for brave testers. I will put everything on github and will
accept patches if you are up for implementing something.

Thanks for the suggestions,

Scott

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Rainer M Krug]

Scott Kostyshak <skost...@lyx.org> writes:

> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal <jayneil.da...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry for posting so late about this. I gave a talk on Lyx at Linuxfest
>> Northwest 2013:
>>
>>
>> http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
>> alternative-latex
>>
>> I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/
>>
>> It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
>> installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.
>
> I am working on a bash script that installs TeX Live 2012 (or 2013 if
> you prefer) manually in Ubuntu 12.04 through 13.04. Having a manual
> install of TeX Live is nice because it allows for one to have more
> control over the installation and specifically updating packages (e.g.
> tlmgr). The script also (optionally) installs all dependencies of the
> LyX examples and templates. Finally, the script tests that all of the
> examples and templates are compilable. This way the user can open any
> template, example, or help document in any language and it will
> compile.
>
> Let me know if you are interested in testing.

As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as well
as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.

Some things I think would be useful in the script:

1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations (2012,
2013)

2) the possibility to switch between local and systemwide texlive
installation

3) the possibility to de-install the local installation.

4) the possibility to install the complete TeX Live

If these features would be included, this would most definitely be a
very useful script.

Cheers,

Rainer


>
> Scott
>

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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Rainer M Krug  wrote:
>
> As I just recently deleted my local TeX Live installation (which worked
> nicely, but hdd space on notebook and simplicity of maintenance, as well
> as the dependency of certain packages on the texlive packages were the
> causes of the switch), this could tempt me to try it out again.
>
> Some things I think would be useful in the script:
>
> 1) the possibility to switch between local TeX Live installations (2012,
> 2013)

This will be implemented (that is, when you install you can choose
2012 or 2013).

> 2) the possibility to switch between local and systemwide texlive
> installation

Good suggestion, but won't be in the first version of the script.

> 3) the possibility to de-install the local installation.

This won't be in the first version either.

> 4) the possibility to install the complete TeX Live

This will be the default. I might add support to use a custom profile.

> If these features would be included, this would most definitely be a
> very useful script.

I'm not sure if all of these will be included. I'm happy to maintain
the script and add features, but first I just want to get out an alpha
version for brave testers. I will put everything on github and will
accept patches if you are up for implementing something.

Thanks for the suggestions,

Scott

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Jayneil Dalal jayneil.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 3. Regarding the version name, I thought lyx live dvd just sounded plain
 and simple and since 12.04.2 is LTS, I am probably not going to change that
 version.

I meant that a versioning scheme would be useful to indicate on which
distro the image is based on, and to show users that something has
changed. If the image is lyx.iso today and two years later it's still
lyx.iso, notwithstanding the nr of changes in between, chances are
that I won't bother try the newer version. But that's me.


 4. Regarding including the daily ppa, I can spin another image and put in a
 separate project like lyx live dvd- developer edition as most people/users
 would want the stable releases. So, it would be better to have two different
 projects for it.

Both stable and devel PPAs can be used at the same time. Installations
of lyx (stable), lyx 2.0 or lyx 2.1 do not interfere with each other
on the same system, so it's safe to have them both on a single image.
I'm not sure it's worth the effort of a different image.

Regards,
Liviu


 Feel free to give your thoughts/feedback.

 Best,

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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal jayneil.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Sorry for posting so late about this. I gave a talk on Lyx at Linuxfest
 Northwest 2013:


 http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
 alternative-latex

 I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:

 https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/

 It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
 installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.

I am working on a bash script that installs TeX Live 2012 (or 2013 if
you prefer) manually in Ubuntu 12.04 through 13.04. Having a manual
install of TeX Live is nice because it allows for one to have more
control over the installation and specifically updating packages (e.g.
tlmgr). The script also (optionally) installs all dependencies of the
LyX examples and templates. Finally, the script tests that all of the
examples and templates are compilable. This way the user can open any
template, example, or help document in any language and it will
compile.

Let me know if you are interested in testing.

Scott

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Jayneil Dalal jayneil.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 3. Regarding the version name, I thought lyx live dvd just sounded plain
 and simple and since 12.04.2 is LTS, I am probably not going to change that
 version.

I meant that a versioning scheme would be useful to indicate on which
distro the image is based on, and to show users that something has
changed. If the image is lyx.iso today and two years later it's still
lyx.iso, notwithstanding the nr of changes in between, chances are
that I won't bother try the newer version. But that's me.


 4. Regarding including the daily ppa, I can spin another image and put in a
 separate project like lyx live dvd- developer edition as most people/users
 would want the stable releases. So, it would be better to have two different
 projects for it.

Both stable and devel PPAs can be used at the same time. Installations
of lyx (stable), lyx 2.0 or lyx 2.1 do not interfere with each other
on the same system, so it's safe to have them both on a single image.
I'm not sure it's worth the effort of a different image.

Regards,
Liviu


 Feel free to give your thoughts/feedback.

 Best,

 Jayneil.







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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal jayneil.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Sorry for posting so late about this. I gave a talk on Lyx at Linuxfest
 Northwest 2013:


 http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
 alternative-latex

 I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:

 https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/

 It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
 installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.

I am working on a bash script that installs TeX Live 2012 (or 2013 if
you prefer) manually in Ubuntu 12.04 through 13.04. Having a manual
install of TeX Live is nice because it allows for one to have more
control over the installation and specifically updating packages (e.g.
tlmgr). The script also (optionally) installs all dependencies of the
LyX examples and templates. Finally, the script tests that all of the
examples and templates are compilable. This way the user can open any
template, example, or help document in any language and it will
compile.

Let me know if you are interested in testing.

Scott

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Jayneil Dalal  wrote:
> 3. Regarding the version name, I thought "lyx live dvd" just sounded plain
> and simple and since 12.04.2 is LTS, I am probably not going to change that
> version.
>
I meant that a versioning scheme would be useful to indicate on which
distro the image is based on, and to show users that something has
changed. If the image is lyx.iso today and two years later it's still
lyx.iso, notwithstanding the nr of changes in between, chances are
that I won't bother try the newer version. But that's me.


> 4. Regarding including the daily ppa, I can spin another image and put in a
> separate project like "lyx live dvd- developer edition" as most people/users
> would want the stable releases. So, it would be better to have two different
> projects for it.
>
Both stable and devel PPAs can be used at the same time. Installations
of lyx (stable), lyx 2.0 or lyx 2.1 do not interfere with each other
on the same system, so it's safe to have them both on a single image.
I'm not sure it's worth the effort of a different image.

Regards,
Liviu


> Feel free to give your thoughts/feedback.
>
> Best,
>
> Jayneil.
>
>
>
>



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Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal <jayneil.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sorry for posting so late about this. I gave a talk on Lyx at Linuxfest
> Northwest 2013:
>
>
> http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
> alternative-latex
>
> I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/
>
> It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
> installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.

I am working on a bash script that installs TeX Live 2012 (or 2013 if
you prefer) manually in Ubuntu 12.04 through 13.04. Having a manual
install of TeX Live is nice because it allows for one to have more
control over the installation and specifically updating packages (e.g.
tlmgr). The script also (optionally) installs all dependencies of the
LyX examples and templates. Finally, the script tests that all of the
examples and templates are compilable. This way the user can open any
template, example, or help document in any language and it will
compile.

Let me know if you are interested in testing.

Scott

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Liviu Andronic]

Hello,


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal jayneil.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
 alternative-latex

When introducing LyX to people I myself prefer launching a full-blown
your first document in LyX session, based on LyX_Essentials.pdf (
https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex ). So I just
start showing off how easy it is to create a good looking document in
LyX, and at the same time explain the differences between LyX and MS
Word. This is more useful for a workshop than a presentation, but
gives the audience a very clear idea of it actually is.


 I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:

 https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/

 It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
 installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.

This is a very good initiative. I remember once having big issues
finding a LiveCD with LyX. Several points:
- Wouldn't it be better to use a versioning scheme in the name of the
file ? lyx-12.04.2.iso or similar would be more useful.
- Is the LiveCD using the PPA (
https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/release )? Could it be
configured to use that?
- And could/should the LiveCD also come pre-configured for the daily
PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/daily )?

Regards,
Liviu

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Jayneil Dalal]

Liviu Andronic landronimirc at gmail.com writes:

 
 Hello,
 
 On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal jayneil.dalal at 
gmail.com wrote:
  http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
  alternative-latex
 
 When introducing LyX to people I myself prefer launching a full-blown
 your first document in LyX session, based on LyX_Essentials.pdf (
 https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex ). So I just
 start showing off how easy it is to create a good looking document in
 LyX, and at the same time explain the differences between LyX and MS
 Word. This is more useful for a workshop than a presentation, but
 gives the audience a very clear idea of it actually is.
 
  I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:
 
  https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/
 
  It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
  installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.
 
 This is a very good initiative. I remember once having big issues
 finding a LiveCD with LyX. Several points:
 - Wouldn't it be better to use a versioning scheme in the name of the
 file ? lyx-12.04.2.iso or similar would be more useful.
 - Is the LiveCD using the PPA (
 https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/release )? Could it be
 configured to use that?
 - And could/should the LiveCD also come pre-configured for the daily
 PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/daily )?
 
 Regards,
 Liviu
 
 

Liviu,

Hi! Thanks for replying. 

1. The presentation slides were made so that when people view the talk 
online, they can get started. I started my talk and went over the slides in 
15 minutes and the remaining hour was spent on live demos where I showed 
attendees how to create articles, reports, IEEE paper, resume, presentation 
etc as well as explained differences between MS Word and Lyx.

2. The Lyx Live DVD currently does not use the ppa. Give me some time and I 
will make another image which is configured to use the ppa. Thanks for 
making this wonderful suggestion!

3. Regarding the version name, I thought lyx live dvd just sounded plain 
and simple and since 12.04.2 is LTS, I am probably not going to change that 
version. 

4. Regarding including the daily ppa, I can spin another image and put in a 
separate project like lyx live dvd- developer edition as most people/users 
would want the stable releases. So, it would be better to have two different 
projects for it.

Feel free to give your thoughts/feedback.

Best,

Jayneil.

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Liviu Andronic]

Hello,


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal jayneil.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
 alternative-latex

When introducing LyX to people I myself prefer launching a full-blown
your first document in LyX session, based on LyX_Essentials.pdf (
https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex ). So I just
start showing off how easy it is to create a good looking document in
LyX, and at the same time explain the differences between LyX and MS
Word. This is more useful for a workshop than a presentation, but
gives the audience a very clear idea of it actually is.


 I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:

 https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/

 It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
 installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.

This is a very good initiative. I remember once having big issues
finding a LiveCD with LyX. Several points:
- Wouldn't it be better to use a versioning scheme in the name of the
file ? lyx-12.04.2.iso or similar would be more useful.
- Is the LiveCD using the PPA (
https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/release )? Could it be
configured to use that?
- And could/should the LiveCD also come pre-configured for the daily
PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/daily )?

Regards,
Liviu

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Jayneil Dalal]

Liviu Andronic landronimirc at gmail.com writes:

 
 Hello,
 
 On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal jayneil.dalal at 
gmail.com wrote:
  http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
  alternative-latex
 
 When introducing LyX to people I myself prefer launching a full-blown
 your first document in LyX session, based on LyX_Essentials.pdf (
 https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex ). So I just
 start showing off how easy it is to create a good looking document in
 LyX, and at the same time explain the differences between LyX and MS
 Word. This is more useful for a workshop than a presentation, but
 gives the audience a very clear idea of it actually is.
 
  I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:
 
  https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/
 
  It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
  installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.
 
 This is a very good initiative. I remember once having big issues
 finding a LiveCD with LyX. Several points:
 - Wouldn't it be better to use a versioning scheme in the name of the
 file ? lyx-12.04.2.iso or similar would be more useful.
 - Is the LiveCD using the PPA (
 https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/release )? Could it be
 configured to use that?
 - And could/should the LiveCD also come pre-configured for the daily
 PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/daily )?
 
 Regards,
 Liviu
 
 

Liviu,

Hi! Thanks for replying. 

1. The presentation slides were made so that when people view the talk 
online, they can get started. I started my talk and went over the slides in 
15 minutes and the remaining hour was spent on live demos where I showed 
attendees how to create articles, reports, IEEE paper, resume, presentation 
etc as well as explained differences between MS Word and Lyx.

2. The Lyx Live DVD currently does not use the ppa. Give me some time and I 
will make another image which is configured to use the ppa. Thanks for 
making this wonderful suggestion!

3. Regarding the version name, I thought lyx live dvd just sounded plain 
and simple and since 12.04.2 is LTS, I am probably not going to change that 
version. 

4. Regarding including the daily ppa, I can spin another image and put in a 
separate project like lyx live dvd- developer edition as most people/users 
would want the stable releases. So, it would be better to have two different 
projects for it.

Feel free to give your thoughts/feedback.

Best,

Jayneil.

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Liviu Andronic]

Hello,


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal  wrote:
> http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
> alternative-latex
>
When introducing LyX to people I myself prefer launching a full-blown
"your first document in LyX" session, based on LyX_Essentials.pdf (
https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex ). So I just
start showing off how easy it is to create a good looking document in
LyX, and at the same time explain the differences between LyX and MS
Word. This is more useful for a workshop than a presentation, but
gives the audience a very clear idea of it actually is.


> I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/
>
> It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
> installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.
>
This is a very good initiative. I remember once having big issues
finding a LiveCD with LyX. Several points:
- Wouldn't it be better to use a versioning scheme in the name of the
file ? lyx-12.04.2.iso or similar would be more useful.
- Is the LiveCD using the PPA (
https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/release )? Could it be
configured to use that?
- And could/should the LiveCD also come pre-configured for the daily
PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/daily )?

Regards,
Liviu

Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Jayneil Dalal]

Liviu Andronic  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal  
gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
> > alternative-latex
> >
> When introducing LyX to people I myself prefer launching a full-blown
> "your first document in LyX" session, based on LyX_Essentials.pdf (
> https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex ). So I just
> start showing off how easy it is to create a good looking document in
> LyX, and at the same time explain the differences between LyX and MS
> Word. This is more useful for a workshop than a presentation, but
> gives the audience a very clear idea of it actually is.
> 
> > I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:
> >
> > https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/
> >
> > It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
> > installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.
> >
> This is a very good initiative. I remember once having big issues
> finding a LiveCD with LyX. Several points:
> - Wouldn't it be better to use a versioning scheme in the name of the
> file ? lyx-12.04.2.iso or similar would be more useful.
> - Is the LiveCD using the PPA (
> https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/release )? Could it be
> configured to use that?
> - And could/should the LiveCD also come pre-configured for the daily
> PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/daily )?
> 
> Regards,
> Liviu
> 
> 

Liviu,

Hi! Thanks for replying. 

1. The presentation slides were made so that when people view the talk 
online, they can get started. I started my talk and went over the slides in 
15 minutes and the remaining hour was spent on live demos where I showed 
attendees how to create articles, reports, IEEE paper, resume, presentation 
etc as well as explained differences between MS Word and Lyx.

2. The Lyx Live DVD currently does not use the ppa. Give me some time and I 
will make another image which is configured to use the ppa. Thanks for 
making this wonderful suggestion!

3. Regarding the version name, I thought "lyx live dvd" just sounded plain 
and simple and since 12.04.2 is LTS, I am probably not going to change that 
version. 

4. Regarding including the daily ppa, I can spin another image and put in a 
separate project like "lyx live dvd- developer edition" as most people/users 
would want the stable releases. So, it would be better to have two different 
projects for it.

Feel free to give your thoughts/feedback.

Best,

Jayneil.

Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Jayneil Dalal]

Hi,

Sorry for posting so late about this. I gave a talk on Lyx at Linuxfest 
Northwest 2013:


http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
alternative-latex

I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/

It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.

You can download the ISO from above link and run it using Virtual Box. Then 
you could either install the whole thing or just run it in live mode.

In the live you can directly start using Lyx even without installing 
anything. Just login in using the details below:

For live mode:
User: Lyx
Password:Lyx

I hope that helps. Once again, thanks and kudos to the entire lyx team for 
making such a great software!

Best,

Jayneil.
(http://elinux.org/Jayneil_Dalal)

Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Jayneil Dalal]

Hi,

Sorry for posting so late about this. I gave a talk on Lyx at Linuxfest 
Northwest 2013:


http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
alternative-latex

I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/

It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.

You can download the ISO from above link and run it using Virtual Box. Then 
you could either install the whole thing or just run it in live mode.

In the live you can directly start using Lyx even without installing 
anything. Just login in using the details below:

For live mode:
User: Lyx
Password:Lyx

I hope that helps. Once again, thanks and kudos to the entire lyx team for 
making such a great software!

Best,

Jayneil.
(http://elinux.org/Jayneil_Dalal)

Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

[Jayneil Dalal]

Hi,

Sorry for posting so late about this. I gave a talk on Lyx at Linuxfest 
Northwest 2013:


http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
alternative-latex

I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/

It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.

You can download the ISO from above link and run it using Virtual Box. Then 
you could either install the whole thing or just run it in live mode.

In the live you can directly start using Lyx even without installing 
anything. Just login in using the details below:

For live mode:
User: Lyx
Password:Lyx

I hope that helps. Once again, thanks and kudos to the entire lyx team for 
making such a great software!

Best,

Jayneil.
(http://elinux.org/Jayneil_Dalal)