Bug report: wrong unicode conversion from JabRef

2024-01-03 Thread Rich Shepard

Herbert Voss identified part of my issue of an accented character in a
bibiography citation is the bib_key. Removing the ã from the bib_key and
leaving it in the first author's name produced the attached citation image.

In the doc's preamble I inserted:
\usepackage{newunicodechar}
\newunicodechar{ã}{\~{a}}
but the resulting citation was still wrong.

Can this be fixed?

TIA,

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Re: JabRef insertion to LyX fails with accented character

2024-01-03 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 3 Jan 2024, Herbert Voss wrote:


I suppose again the "mergedate=..." option problem in the setting
of biblatex.


Herbert,

That's long gone.


In general biber uses the encoding from the main document unless
you explicitely call
biber --bibencoding=latin9 


And I've not done that.


Looks to me like these two are the source of the problems.


yes and no, because the bibliography is wrong, but should have some
entries. It is only a warning not an error.


Yes, changing the citation style from `Biblatex' to `Biblatex (natbib mode)'
allowed the bibliography to be included in the PDF.

Why only with non-accented characters remains unanswered, but I doubt the
expected audience for this doc will notice any difference.

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Re: JabRef insertion to LyX fails with accented character

2024-01-03 Thread Herbert Voss



Am 03.01.24 um 16:51 schrieb Rich Shepard:

On Wed, 3 Jan 2024, Herbert Voss wrote:


every problem is listed in the logfiles ...

The .log file, line 725:
LaTeX Warning: Citation 'Ant=E3o2021' on page 5 undefined on input 
line

324.



Rich,
I suppose again the "mergedate=..." option problem in the setting
of biblatex.




.blg


The biodiversity.blg:

INFO - Writing 'biodiversity.bbl' with encoding 'latin9'


In general biber uses the encoding from the main document unless
you explicitely call

biber --bibencoding=latin9 



INFO - Output to biodiversity.bbl
WARN - I didn't find a database entry for 'Ant=E3o2021' (section 0)
INFO - WARNINGS: 1

Two things:
1. Where is biber finding the latin9 encoding?
2. The string E3 is a hex color, not ã.

Looks to me like these two are the source of the problems.


yes and no, because the bibliography is wrong, but should have some
entries. It is only a warning not an error.

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Re: JabRef insertion to LyX fails with accented character

2024-01-03 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 3 Jan 2024, Herbert Voss wrote:


every problem is listed in the logfiles ...


Herbert,

Just re-exported to LaTeX (pdflatex) and ran pdflatex and biber.


.log


The .log file, line 725:
LaTeX Warning: Citation 'Ant=E3o2021' on page 5 undefined on input line
324.


.blg


The biodiversity.blg:
$ biber biodiversity 
INFO - This is Biber 2.19

INFO - Logfile is 'biodiversity.blg'
INFO - Reading 'biodiversity.bcf'
INFO - Found 12 citekeys in bib section 0
INFO - Processing section 0
INFO - Looking for bibtex file '/home/rshepard/documents/jabrefdb.bib' for 
section 0
INFO - LaTeX decoding ...
INFO - Found BibTeX data source '/home/rshepard/documents/jabrefdb.bib'
INFO - Overriding locale 'en-US' defaults 'variable = shifted' with 'variable = 
non-ignorable'
INFO - Overriding locale 'en-US' defaults 'normalization = NFD' with 
'normalization = prenormalized'
INFO - Sorting list 'nyt/global//global/global' of type 'entry' with template 
'nyt' and locale 'en-US'
INFO - No sort tailoring available for locale 'en-US'
INFO - Writing 'biodiversity.bbl' with encoding 'latin9'
INFO - Output to biodiversity.bbl
WARN - I didn't find a database entry for 'Ant=E3o2021' (section 0)
INFO - WARNINGS: 1

Two things:
1. Where is biber finding the latin9 encoding?
2. The string E3 is a hex color, not ã.

Looks to me like these two are the source of the problems.

Thanks,

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Re: JabRef insertion to LyX fails with accented character

2024-01-03 Thread Herbert Voss



Am 03.01.24 um 15:41 schrieb Rich Shepard:

Now I've learned how to insert accented characters using my keyboard I
corrected the lead author's name in JabRef from Antao to Antão. This 
morning
when I tried compiling the document with that citation it failed to 
find the

non-accented record in the .bib.

I deleted the ??.?? citation and tried to push the accented one to the
document. It keeps failing; the citation is still ??.??. I'm really
surprised that this happens.


Rich,

every problem is listed in the logfiles ...

.log
.blg

Herbert





Is this a LyX or JabRef issue?

TIA,

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JabRef insertion to LyX fails with accented character

2024-01-03 Thread Rich Shepard

Now I've learned how to insert accented characters using my keyboard I
corrected the lead author's name in JabRef from Antao to Antão. This morning
when I tried compiling the document with that citation it failed to find the
non-accented record in the .bib.

I deleted the ??.?? citation and tried to push the accented one to the
document. It keeps failing; the citation is still ??.??. I'm really
surprised that this happens.

Is this a LyX or JabRef issue?

TIA,

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Re: Adding accented character in JabRef [RESOLVED]

2024-01-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Mon, 1 Jan 2024, Rich Shepard wrote:


An authors' name is Antao with the second 'a' accented with a tilde. I'm
not finding the proper syntax to produce that in the BibTeX source.


Found the solution that works here with Slackware and Xfce4. In ~/.Xmodmap I
added the line
keycode 133 = Multi_key

Opened JabRef and selected the paper with the first author's name Antão. By
pressing/releasing the windoze flag key off the left side of the space bar,
then pressing ~ and a there's now an ã in the JabRef entry, as well as in
this urxvt terminal running alpine. :-)

Thanks, everyone!

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Re: Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 2 Jan 2024, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

I'm seeing odd results with this as well. If I use the attached bib file, 
then \~A shows up just fine, but \~a does not. In the bbl file, it appears 
as:


\begin{thebibliography}{1}

\bibitem{Ant:Test}
Ant\ {a}o \~Antonia.
\newblock Whatever.
\newblock {\em Good One}, 2023.

\end{thebibliography}

Note the deleted tilde in the first name. The tilde has been moved to a 
non-breaking space.


Riki,

I, too, saw the blank replacing the tilde.

I just set a keyboard key to Compose. When I resolve the issue of no
bibliography in the pdflatex PDF I'll play with the accent issue.

Thanks,

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Re: Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-02 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck

On 1/2/24 11:51, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jan 2024, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

Is JabRef saving them that way? I've had problems with it saving such 
things as Unicode.


Riki,

Nope. It tells me there's an unexpected '(' in the string.


I'm seeing odd results with this as well. If I use the attached bib 
file, then \~A shows up just fine, but \~a does not. In the bbl file, it 
appears as:


\begin{thebibliography}{1}

\bibitem{Ant:Test}
Ant\ {a}o \~Antonia.
\newblock Whatever.
\newblock {\em Good One}, 2023.

\end{thebibliography}

Note the deleted tilde in the first name. The tilde has been moved to a 
non-breaking space.


Riki

@Article{Ant:Test,
  author  = {Ant\~{a}o \~Antonia},
  journal = {Good One},
  title   = {Whatever},
  year= {2023},
}

@Comment{jabref-meta: databaseType:bibtex;}
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Re: Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 2 Jan 2024, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

Is JabRef saving them that way? I've had problems with it saving such things 
as Unicode.


Riki,

Nope. It tells me there's an unexpected '(' in the string.

I'll ask on the slackware mail list how to set a compose key using the
right-side alt key.

Sigh,

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Re: Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 2 Jan 2024, Paul Rubin wrote:


I forget which Linux distro you use, but you might want to check whether
there is a keyboard layout option for the compose key. There is on Mint. I
set it to the right alt key, so I can just type right-alt, " and a letter
(three separate key strokes, not a chord) to get an umlaut or right-alt,
~, n to get ñ, etc.


Paul,

I use Slackware. In ~/.keymap I have:
# Exchange the left Control key and the Caps Lock key on the keyboard
keymaps 0-2,4-6,8-9,12
keycode 58 = Control
keycode 29 = Caps_Lock

I'll ask on the slackware mail list how to create a compose key.

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Re: Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-02 Thread Paul Rubin



On 1/2/24 09:16, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jan 2024, Herbert Voss wrote:


\~a   or \~{a}
However, you should be able to insert directly ã


Herbert,

It didn't like the first two. I need to learn how to enter it directly in
using /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose.

Thanks,

Rich

Rich,

I forget which Linux distro you use, but you might want to check whether 
there is a keyboard layout option for the compose key. There is on Mint. 
I set it to the right alt key, so I can just type right-alt, " and a 
letter (three separate key strokes, not a chord) to get an umlaut or 
right-alt, ~, n to get ñ, etc.


Paul

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Re: Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 2 Jan 2024, José Matos wrote:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key


José,

That explains it: there's not an alt-graph key on US keyboards.

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Re: Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-02 Thread José Matos
On Tue, 2024-01-02 at 06:17 -0800, Rich Shepard wrote:
> Herbert,
> 
> What's the AltGr chord?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key

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Re: Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 2 Jan 2024, Herbert Voss wrote:


sure ... but also
Linux: AltGr+a


Herbert,

What's the AltGr chord?

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Re: Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-02 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 2 Jan 2024, Herbert Voss wrote:


\~a   or \~{a}
However, you should be able to insert directly ã


Herbert,

It didn't like the first two. I need to learn how to enter it directly in
using /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose.

Thanks,

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Re: Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-02 Thread Neal Becker
On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 5:29 AM Herbert Voss 
wrote:

>
>
> Am 02.01.24 um 11:20 schrieb Kees Zeelenberg:
> > Herbert Voss wrote:
> >> However, you should be able to insert directly ã
> > Isn't this only possible with either a keyboard that has the symbol
> directly or a keyboard with dead keys?
>
> sure ... but also
>
> Win: Alt+0227
> macOS: Alt+n a
> Linux: AltGr+a
>
>
> Or use your favorite unicode character app to insert, I use kcharselect
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Re: Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-02 Thread Herbert Voss



Am 02.01.24 um 11:20 schrieb Kees Zeelenberg:

Herbert Voss wrote:

However, you should be able to insert directly ã

Isn't this only possible with either a keyboard that has the symbol directly or 
a keyboard with dead keys?


sure ... but also

Win: Alt+0227
macOS: Alt+n a
Linux: AltGr+a


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RE: Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-02 Thread Kees Zeelenberg
Herbert Voss wrote:
> However, you should be able to insert directly ã

Isn't this only possible with either a keyboard that has the symbol directly or 
a keyboard with dead keys?

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Re: Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-01 Thread Herbert Voss



Am 01.01.24 um 23:52 schrieb Rich Shepard:
An authors' name is Antao with the second 'a' accented with a tilde. 
I'm not

finding the proper syntax to produce that in the BibTeX source.

I tried {~}a and \{~}a and some other variants without success.


\~a   or \~{a}

However, you should be able to insert directly ã


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Re: Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-01 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck

On 1/1/24 17:52, Rich Shepard wrote:
An authors' name is Antao with the second 'a' accented with a tilde. 
I'm not

finding the proper syntax to produce that in the BibTeX source.

I tried {~}a and \{~}a and some other variants without success.


Is JabRef saving them that way? I've had problems with it saving such 
things as Unicode.


Riki


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Adding accented character in JabRef

2024-01-01 Thread Rich Shepard

An authors' name is Antao with the second 'a' accented with a tilde. I'm not
finding the proper syntax to produce that in the BibTeX source.

I tried {~}a and \{~}a and some other variants without success.

A cluestick is needed.

TIA,

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Re: Jabref error

2022-05-17 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



Am 17.05.22 um 13:00 schrieb Herbert Voss:



Am 17.05.22 um 11:24 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

Slightly OT

I use jabref as a reference manager for including literature in my lyx 
documents.

I get a very annoying error >
The library has been modified by another program
 and I don't know how to handle it.

I use
JabRef 5.6--2022-04-25--5c9d898
Linux 5.10.0-14-amd64 amd64

and according to a search in the internet this error should not occur 
in version 5.6 anymore.


Has somebody a solution? I tried various changes in the preferences, 
without success so far.


Another program or instance of JabRef changed the current open file.
You could _reload_ the bib file and save it again.

Herbert
Thanks, Joel and Herbert, for the proposals. I used Herberts for the 
time being and will collect the case if I run into it again and send it 
to the JabRef maintainers.

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Re: Jabref error

2022-05-17 Thread Herbert Voss



Am 17.05.22 um 11:24 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

Slightly OT

I use jabref as a reference manager for including literature in my lyx 
documents.

I get a very annoying error >
The library has been modified by another program
 and I don't know how to handle it.

I use
JabRef 5.6--2022-04-25--5c9d898
Linux 5.10.0-14-amd64 amd64

and according to a search in the internet this error should not occur 
in version 5.6 anymore.


Has somebody a solution? I tried various changes in the preferences, 
without success so far.


Another program or instance of JabRef changed the current open file.
You could _reload_ the bib file and save it again.

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Re: Jabref error

2022-05-17 Thread Joel Kulesza
On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 03:25 Wolfgang Engelmann 
wrote:

> Slightly OT
>
> I use jabref as a reference manager for including literature in my lyx
> documents.
> I get a very annoying error >
> The library has been modified by another program
>   and I don't know how to handle it.
>
> I use
> JabRef 5.6--2022-04-25--5c9d898
> Linux 5.10.0-14-amd64 amd64
>
> and according to a search in the internet this error should not occur in
> version 5.6 anymore.
>
> Has somebody a solution? I tried various changes in the preferences,
> without success so far.
>
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Wolfgang,

I have seen the same message and I ignore it (it has never caused me
problems). I also keep my .bib in a git repository to provide additional
assurance/monitoring regarding changes. I recommend raising this to JabRef
developers, particularly if you’re able to reliably reproduce the behavior
through some repeatable process.

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Jabref error

2022-05-17 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

Slightly OT

I use jabref as a reference manager for including literature in my lyx 
documents.

I get a very annoying error >
The library has been modified by another program
 and I don't know how to handle it.

I use
JabRef 5.6--2022-04-25--5c9d898
Linux 5.10.0-14-amd64 amd64

and according to a search in the internet this error should not occur in 
version 5.6 anymore.


Has somebody a solution? I tried various changes in the preferences, 
without success so far.


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Re: JabRef entry warning

2021-10-13 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse

Paul,

this is why I am getting irritated at the (ie his) persistent lack of
sending in MWEs.  Having to go through this (and every time) borders on
the rude, and frustrates people like you (and me) who want to help.

A small file such as your dummy file, producing the error with the
required files allows anyone to just run the sucker and see where the
issue comes from.  Then one can also open the BIB file with another tool
(I like BibDesk on the Mac) and see what errors this flags.

I also find, when I have such an issue myself, reducing the file to
nothing else but the error producing text often makes me find the error
:-)-O

Never mind (him) sending in stuff with typos.

el

 12/10/2021 20:56, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
[...]

I turned your entry into a .bib file, cited it in a dummy document,
and compiled with biblatex.  It specifically flagged the first entry
that ended with a comma.  I think the "name" in the error message is
because it thinks that, after that last comma, there will be another
name = value pair in the field that it never finds (due to the closing
brace).  Not the ideal error message in my opinion, but deleting the
surplus comma did fix it.

I spotted the "and and" Maria flagged, but in my test that did not
cause an error message, it just mucked up the printed citation.

[...]

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Re: JabRef entry warning

2021-10-12 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 10/12/21 2:31 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


You have commas at the end of several fields (inside the closing curly
brace), including institution, which I think is triggering the error
message.


Paul,

All key:value pairs end with commas except for the last one.

You also have a few places with a funky dash separating a pair of 
numbers,
rather than a double dash ('--'). That might be the result of copying 
from

a PDF and pasting. I don't know if that will also cause any indigestion.


Yes, that's not uncommon. I try to catch and repair them when I enter the
document in JabRef, but aren't always successful. Now corrected.

The error specified the document name, not any key:value pair between the
opening and closing braces:
WARN - Name in key 'Paul2012' is empty (probably consecutive 'and'):
skipping entry 'Paul2012'

The name key has no 'and' in it.

While this is a warning, not an error, I'd still like to have biber 
accept

it as correct.

Still puzzled,

Rich

I turned your entry into a .bib file, cited it in a dummy document, and 
compiled with biblatex. It specifically flagged the first entry that 
ended with a comma. I think the "name" in the error message is because 
it thinks that, after that last comma, there will be another name = 
value pair in the field that it never finds (due to the closing brace). 
Not the ideal error message in my opinion, but deleting the surplus 
comma did fix it.


I spotted the "and and" Maria flagged, but in my test that did not cause 
an error message, it just mucked up the printed citation.


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Re: JabRef entry warning

2021-10-12 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021, Maria Gouskova wrote:


Maybe it was the two "ands" in a row in the author field:


Maria,

Yep, that's the problem. It's like the reading test where the paragraph has
the word 'the' twice, once at the end of a line, the other at the beginning
of the following line.

I hadn't noticed that when I looked at each field, but your fresh eyes
caught it. Thank you very much.

Stay well,

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Re: JabRef entry warning

2021-10-12 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


You have commas at the end of several fields (inside the closing curly
brace), including institution, which I think is triggering the error
message.


Paul,

All key:value pairs end with commas except for the last one.


You also have a few places with a funky dash separating a pair of numbers,
rather than a double dash ('--'). That might be the result of copying from
a PDF and pasting. I don't know if that will also cause any indigestion.


Yes, that's not uncommon. I try to catch and repair them when I enter the
document in JabRef, but aren't always successful. Now corrected.

The error specified the document name, not any key:value pair between the
opening and closing braces:
WARN - Name in key 'Paul2012' is empty (probably consecutive 'and'):
skipping entry 'Paul2012'

The name key has no 'and' in it.

While this is a warning, not an error, I'd still like to have biber accept
it as correct.

Still puzzled,

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Re: JabRef entry warning

2021-10-12 Thread Maria Gouskova
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 2:01 PM Paul A. Rubin  wrote:

> On 10/12/21 1:21 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Oct 2021, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> >
> >> You mention 'Paul2012' in the warning but show the entry with key
> >> 'Paul2017'. Is one of those a typo, or did you show us the wrong entry?
> >
> > Paul2021,
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Probably need to re-caffinate. Corrected entry just posted.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rich
> Rich,
>
> You have commas at the end of several fields (inside the closing curly
> brace), including institution, which I think is triggering the error
> message.
>
> You also have a few places with a funky dash separating a pair of
> numbers, rather than a double dash ('--'). That might be the result of
> copying from a PDF and pasting. I don't know if that will also cause any
> indigestion.
>
> Paul
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Maybe it was the two "ands" in a row in the author field:

author = {Paul, A.P. and Paretti, N.V. and MacCoy, D.E. *and and* Brasher,
A.M.D.},
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Re: JabRef entry warning

2021-10-12 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 10/12/21 1:21 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

You mention 'Paul2012' in the warning but show the entry with key 
'Paul2017'. Is one of those a typo, or did you show us the wrong entry?


Paul2021,

:-)

Probably need to re-caffinate. Corrected entry just posted.

Thanks,

Rich

Rich,

You have commas at the end of several fields (inside the closing curly 
brace), including institution, which I think is triggering the error 
message.


You also have a few places with a funky dash separating a pair of 
numbers, rather than a double dash ('--'). That might be the result of 
copying from a PDF and pasting. I don't know if that will also cause any 
indigestion.


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Re: JabRef entry warning

2021-10-12 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

You mention 'Paul2012' in the warning but show the entry with key 'Paul2017'. 
Is one of those a typo, or did you show us the wrong entry?


Paul2021,

:-)

Probably need to re-caffinate. Corrected entry just posted.

Thanks,

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Re: JabRef entry warning

2021-10-12 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021, Kornel Benko wrote:


Warning from 'Paul2012', but you cite 'Paul2017' here.


Kornel,

Mea culpa! The proper entry is:
@techreport{Paul2012,
abstract = {As part of the National Water-Quality Assessment Program of 
the U.S.
Geological Survey, this study examines the occurrence of nine trace
elements in bed sediment of varying mineralogy and land use and assesses
the possible effects of these trace elements on 
aquatic-macroinvertebrate
community structure. Samples of bed sediment and macroinvertebrates
were collected from 154 streams at sites representative of undeveloped,
...
and Naididae all demonstrated resilience to trace-element exposure
and, in some cases, possible changes in physical habitat within stream
ecosystems. The taxa characteristics within the Ozark Highland ecoregion
were different than other ecoregions as evidenced by generally more
diverse mayfly populations. In addition, Baetis sp. was common and
dominated many of the mayfly populations found in the Rocky Mountain
streams within the Mountain Southern Rockies and Mountain Northern
Rockies ecoregions; however, within the Ozark Highland ecoregion,
Tricorythodes sp. appeared to be more common than Baetis sp.},
author = {Paul, A.P. and Paretti, N.V. and MacCoy, D.E. and and 
Brasher, A.M.D.},
institution = {U.S. Geological Survey Scientific Investigations Report 
2012–5272,},
keywords = {streams, rivers, benthos, macroinvertebrates, sediments, 
land use, trace elements, statistics, metals},
number = {Scientific Investigations Report 2012–5272,},
title = {{The occurrence of trace elements in bed sediment collected 
from areas of varying land use and potential effects on stream 
macroinvertebrates in the conterminous western United States, Alaska, and 
Hawaii, 1992–2000.}},
year = {2012}
}

I redacted most of the abstract to save space as the issue is with the name.

Thanks for pointing out my mistake,

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Re: JabRef entry warning

2021-10-12 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 10/12/21 1:00 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:
Biber tells me "WARN - Name in key 'Paul2012' is empty (probably 
consecutive

'and'): skipping entry 'Paul2012'" and the entry in the jabrefdb.bib is:
@techreport{Paul2017,
abstract = {This paper summarizes the application of algae as 
indicators of nutrient

pollution in water quality management. It describes the use of algal
indicators to develop water quality diagnostics for nutrient 
pollution

in the United States (U.S.) and then reviews scientific developments
in the use and application of algal indicators across the world.
The paper is intended as a technical resource for the water quality
manager/practitioner seeking to utilize algae to detect the presence
of nutrient pollution and to estimate the risks of nutrient pollution
in adversely affecting the condition of stream ecosystems.},
author = {Paul, M.J.},
institution = {Tetra Tech, Inc./ Center for Ecological Sciences},
keywords = {streams, rivers, lakes, ponds, algae, pollution, water 
quality, indicators},

pagetotal = {44},
title = {{Algal Indicators in Streams: A Review of Their 
Application in Water Quality Management of Nutrient Pollution}},

type = {techreport},
year = {2017}
}

I'm not seeing the empty error in the name. Why does biber find it empty?

Rich


Rich,

You mention 'Paul2012' in the warning but show the entry with key 
'Paul2017'. Is one of those a typo, or did you show us the wrong entry?


Paul2021

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Re: JabRef entry warning

2021-10-12 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:00:08 -0700 (PDT)
schrieb Rich Shepard :

> Biber tells me "WARN - Name in key 'Paul2012' is empty (probably consecutive
> 'and'): skipping entry 'Paul2012'" and the entry in the jabrefdb.bib is:
> @techreport{Paul2017,
>   abstract = {This paper summarizes the application of algae as 
> indicators of
> nutrient pollution in water quality management. It describes the use of algal
>   indicators to develop water quality diagnostics for nutrient pollution
>   in the United States (U.S.) and then reviews scientific developments
>   in the use and application of algal indicators across the world.
>   The paper is intended as a technical resource for the water quality
>   manager/practitioner seeking to utilize algae to detect the presence
>   of nutrient pollution and to estimate the risks of nutrient pollution
>   in adversely affecting the condition of stream ecosystems.},
>   author = {Paul, M.J.},
>   institution = {Tetra Tech, Inc./ Center for Ecological Sciences},
>   keywords = {streams, rivers, lakes, ponds, algae, pollution, water 
> quality,
> indicators}, pagetotal = {44},
>   title = {{Algal Indicators in Streams: A Review of Their Application in 
> Water
> Quality Management of Nutrient Pollution}}, type = {techreport},
>   year = {2017}
> }
> 
> I'm not seeing the empty error in the name. Why does biber find it empty?
> 
> Rich
> 

Warning from 'Paul2012', but you cite 'Paul2017' here.

Kornel


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JabRef entry warning

2021-10-12 Thread Rich Shepard

Biber tells me "WARN - Name in key 'Paul2012' is empty (probably consecutive
'and'): skipping entry 'Paul2012'" and the entry in the jabrefdb.bib is:
@techreport{Paul2017,
abstract = {This paper summarizes the application of algae as 
indicators of nutrient
pollution in water quality management. It describes the use of algal
indicators to develop water quality diagnostics for nutrient pollution
in the United States (U.S.) and then reviews scientific developments
in the use and application of algal indicators across the world.
The paper is intended as a technical resource for the water quality
manager/practitioner seeking to utilize algae to detect the presence
of nutrient pollution and to estimate the risks of nutrient pollution
in adversely affecting the condition of stream ecosystems.},
author = {Paul, M.J.},
institution = {Tetra Tech, Inc./ Center for Ecological Sciences},
keywords = {streams, rivers, lakes, ponds, algae, pollution, water 
quality, indicators},
pagetotal = {44},
title = {{Algal Indicators in Streams: A Review of Their Application in 
Water Quality Management of Nutrient Pollution}},
type = {techreport},
year = {2017}
}

I'm not seeing the empty error in the name. Why does biber find it empty?

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Re: Jabref 5.3.1

2021-07-24 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



Am 23.07.21 um 17:57 schrieb Herbert Voss:



Am 23.07.21 um 17:34 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:



Am 22.07.21 um 20:44 schrieb Herbert Voss:


First I deleted the old JabRef. Then I downloaded the new deb file
and with doubleclick on that file it will be installed by the install 
manager.

After that I can use jabref as usual.

Herbert


 I did also delete the old JabRef.
I downloaded for Ubuntu/Debian Jabref_5.3-1_amd64.deb (155MB)
 via download.fosshub.com
opened with GDebi-Paket-Installationprogramm (Standard)
and clicked Paket installieren

I tried
jabref
./jabref



After a successful instalation it should be available by the menu. With 
an input

of "jab" the icon of jabref should be on the screen.

Herbert




tried again after 7 minutes (don't know how long the installation 
takes, there is no info on it)


to no avail

Herbert, did you use another source for the Debian package?

Wolfgang



perhaps the up to date java is an issue? Which one is needed?
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Re: Jabref 5.3.1

2021-07-23 Thread Herbert Voss



Am 23.07.21 um 17:34 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:



Am 22.07.21 um 20:44 schrieb Herbert Voss:


First I deleted the old JabRef. Then I downloaded the new deb file
and with doubleclick on that file it will be installed by the install 
manager.

After that I can use jabref as usual.

Herbert


 I did also delete the old JabRef.
I downloaded for Ubuntu/Debian Jabref_5.3-1_amd64.deb (155MB)
 via download.fosshub.com
opened with GDebi-Paket-Installationprogramm (Standard)
and clicked Paket installieren

I tried
jabref
./jabref



After a successful instalation it should be available by the menu. With 
an input

of "jab" the icon of jabref should be on the screen.

Herbert




tried again after 7 minutes (don't know how long the installation 
takes, there is no info on it)


to no avail

Herbert, did you use another source for the Debian package?

Wolfgang


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Re: Jabref 5.3.1

2021-07-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann




Am 22.07.21 um 20:44 schrieb Herbert Voss:


First I deleted the old JabRef. Then I downloaded the new deb file
and with doubleclick on that file it will be installed by the install 
manager.

After that I can use jabref as usual.

Herbert


 I did also delete the old JabRef.
I downloaded for Ubuntu/Debian Jabref_5.3-1_amd64.deb (155MB)
 via download.fosshub.com
opened with GDebi-Paket-Installationprogramm (Standard)
and clicked Paket installieren

I tried
jabref
./jabref

tried again after 7 minutes (don't know how long the installation takes, 
there is no info on it)


to no avail

Herbert, did you use another source for the Debian package?

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Re: Jabref 5.3.1

2021-07-23 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse

Get a Mac :-)-O

el

On 22/07/2021 21:31, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 7/22/21 2:25 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Am 22.07.21 um 20:12 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

Am 22.07.21 um 17:32 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

On 7/22/21 9:31 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

[...]


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Re: Jabref 5.3.1

2021-07-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 7/22/21 2:25 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:



Am 22.07.21 um 20:12 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:



Am 22.07.21 um 17:32 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

On 7/22/21 9:31 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

There is a new Jabref (5.3.1) available under
https://www.fosshub.com/JabRef.html
There is a download for Ubuntu+Debian
and a Linux portable.
I wanted to try the latter, but don't know how to run it.
Could somebody advice me?
Wolfgang
Download the archive file and extract it, which will create a folder 
named JabRef which in turn contains bin and lib folders. Put that 
folder wherever you want it. (Since this is the portable version, I 
suspect you might want it on a thumb drive.)




Strange:
~/Downloads/JabRef/bin$ ./JabRef
Error opening "/home/wolfgang/Downloads/JabRef/lib/app/JabRef.cfg" 
file: No such file or directory

??
I am on Debian 11
Could the existing older JabRef be the cause?
Wolfgang

The JabRef contains two folders,
bin
and lib

in bin is JabRef
in lib is a folder runtime
  which contains lib, conf, bin, legal as folders

where is JabRef.cfg ? >
find -iname 'JabRef.cfg'
./lib/app/JabRef.cfg

why is it not found?

Wolfgang



Strange indeed. I do not encounter that error on my system (Linux Mint, 
which is Ubuntu-based and pretty compatible with Debian), with the 
extracted program in exactly the same folder (~/Downloads). I have 
JabRef 3.8.2 installed, and it does not interfere with launching the 
portable version.


You might try shifting the terminal to the ~/Downloads/JabRef folder and 
running "bin/JabRef", but I suspect the same error will occur.


A nonprinting control character embedded in the path might cause the 
file not found error, but it is very hard to see how one might get into 
the path.


You could also try copying the JabRef folder to /tmp and repeat the 
experiment there. If running ./JabRef in /tmp/JabRef/bin works, a stray 
character in the path becomes more plausible.


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Re: Jabref 5.3.1

2021-07-22 Thread Herbert Voss



Am 22.07.21 um 20:25 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:



Am 22.07.21 um 20:12 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:



Am 22.07.21 um 17:32 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

On 7/22/21 9:31 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

There is a new Jabref (5.3.1) available under
https://www.fosshub.com/JabRef.html
There is a download for Ubuntu+Debian
and a Linux portable.
I wanted to try the latter, but don't know how to run it.
Could somebody advice me?
Wolfgang
Download the archive file and extract it, which will create a folder 
named JabRef which in turn contains bin and lib folders. Put that 
folder wherever you want it. (Since this is the portable version, I 
suspect you might want it on a thumb drive.)


First I deleted the old JabRef. Then I downloaded the new deb file
and with doubleclick on that file it will be installed by the install 
manager.

After that I can use jabref as usual.

Herbert








Strange:
~/Downloads/JabRef/bin$ ./JabRef
Error opening "/home/wolfgang/Downloads/JabRef/lib/app/JabRef.cfg" 
file: No such file or directory

??
I am on Debian 11
Could the existing older JabRef be the cause?
Wolfgang

The JabRef contains two folders,
bin
and lib

in bin is JabRef
in lib is a folder runtime
  which contains lib, conf, bin, legal as folders

where is JabRef.cfg ? >
find -iname 'JabRef.cfg'
./lib/app/JabRef.cfg

why is it not found?

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Re: Jabref 5.3.1

2021-07-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann




Am 22.07.21 um 20:12 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:



Am 22.07.21 um 17:32 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

On 7/22/21 9:31 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

There is a new Jabref (5.3.1) available under
https://www.fosshub.com/JabRef.html
There is a download for Ubuntu+Debian
and a Linux portable.
I wanted to try the latter, but don't know how to run it.
Could somebody advice me?
Wolfgang
Download the archive file and extract it, which will create a folder 
named JabRef which in turn contains bin and lib folders. Put that 
folder wherever you want it. (Since this is the portable version, I 
suspect you might want it on a thumb drive.)




Strange:
~/Downloads/JabRef/bin$ ./JabRef
Error opening "/home/wolfgang/Downloads/JabRef/lib/app/JabRef.cfg" file: 
No such file or directory

??
I am on Debian 11
Could the existing older JabRef be the cause?
Wolfgang

The JabRef contains two folders,
bin
and lib

in bin is JabRef
in lib is a folder runtime
  which contains lib, conf, bin, legal as folders

where is JabRef.cfg ? >
find -iname 'JabRef.cfg'
./lib/app/JabRef.cfg

why is it not found?

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Re: Jabref 5.3.1

2021-07-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann




Am 22.07.21 um 17:32 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

On 7/22/21 9:31 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

There is a new Jabref (5.3.1) available under
https://www.fosshub.com/JabRef.html
There is a download for Ubuntu+Debian
and a Linux portable.
I wanted to try the latter, but don't know how to run it.
Could somebody advice me?
Wolfgang
Download the archive file and extract it, which will create a folder 
named JabRef which in turn contains bin and lib folders. Put that folder 
wherever you want it. (Since this is the portable version, I suspect you 
might want it on a thumb drive.)




Strange:
~/Downloads/JabRef/bin$ ./JabRef
Error opening "/home/wolfgang/Downloads/JabRef/lib/app/JabRef.cfg" file: 
No such file or directory

??
I am on Debian 11
Could the existing older JabRef be the cause?
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Re: Jabref 5.3.1

2021-07-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann




Am 22.07.21 um 17:32 schrieb Paul A. Rubin:

On 7/22/21 9:31 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

There is a new Jabref (5.3.1) available under
https://www.fosshub.com/JabRef.html
There is a download for Ubuntu+Debian
and a Linux portable.
I wanted to try the latter, but don't know how to run it.
Could somebody advice me?
Wolfgang
Download the archive file and extract it, which will create a folder 
named JabRef which in turn contains bin and lib folders. Put that folder 
wherever you want it. (Since this is the portable version, I suspect you 
might want it on a thumb drive.)


To run it, open a terminal and run the command "/bin/JabRef" 
(where  is the path to the extracted JabRef folder), or just open 
the terminal in the bin folder and run "./JabRef". I got a lot of error 
messages in the terminal when I tried it (Linux Mint), but it opened and 
appeared to work okay.



Thanks, Paul for your detailed advice. Will do so tomorrow.
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Re: Jabref 5.3.1

2021-07-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 7/22/21 9:31 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

There is a new Jabref (5.3.1) available under
https://www.fosshub.com/JabRef.html
There is a download for Ubuntu+Debian
and a Linux portable.
I wanted to try the latter, but don't know how to run it.
Could somebody advice me?
Wolfgang
Download the archive file and extract it, which will create a folder 
named JabRef which in turn contains bin and lib folders. Put that folder 
wherever you want it. (Since this is the portable version, I suspect you 
might want it on a thumb drive.)


To run it, open a terminal and run the command "/bin/JabRef" 
(where  is the path to the extracted JabRef folder), or just open 
the terminal in the bin folder and run "./JabRef". I got a lot of error 
messages in the terminal when I tried it (Linux Mint), but it opened and 
appeared to work okay.


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Jabref 5.3.1

2021-07-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

There is a new Jabref (5.3.1) available under
https://www.fosshub.com/JabRef.html
There is a download for Ubuntu+Debian
and a Linux portable.
I wanted to try the latter, but don't know how to run it.
Could somebody advice me?
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SOLVED: Re: Jabref linked identifiers DOI/URL open Thunderbird instead of Firefox ESR

2020-09-27 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann




Am 24.09.20 um 10:11 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
This is a bit off topic, but since some of the people in the list are 
using Jabref as a reference manager for Lyx, I might get help.
If I click in Jabref on the linked identifiers, the DOI and/or URL 
opens, however clicking on it tries to open my thunderbird (Mail) 
instead of my Firefox. I must have done some setting since it used to 
work before, but I don't know what. I could not find a clue in the 
Jabref help.

I am using Debian and Jabref 5.1
Wolfgang


The reason was, that my firefox was not set to be the standard browser.
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Jabref linked identifiers DOI/URL open Thunderbird instead of Firefox ESR

2020-09-24 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
This is a bit off topic, but since some of the people in the list are 
using Jabref as a reference manager for Lyx, I might get help.
If I click in Jabref on the linked identifiers, the DOI and/or URL 
opens, however clicking on it tries to open my thunderbird (Mail) 
instead of my Firefox. I must have done some setting since it used to 
work before, but I don't know what. I could not find a clue in the 
Jabref help.

I am using Debian and Jabref 5.1
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SOLVED > Re: jabref 5 on debian

2020-01-06 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



Am 06.01.20 um 14:35 schrieb Rich Shepard:

On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

I downloaded Jabref_5.0-1_amd64.deb from 
https://builds.jabref.org/master/

to my Download folder (Debian bullseye/sid).

How do I get now jabref to work? It says, it is distributed with 
bundled Java runtime Environment > no need for java installation.


Wolfgang,

JabRef has many unresolved issues. Some versions required not only 
specific
Java versions but would work only with Oracle's JDK and not openJDK. I 
had

extensive e-mail exchanges with one of the lead developers about these
issues and he told me that he, too, was frustrated by their (the devs)
inability to resolve them. I dropped Jabef for kbibtex (which imported my
jabrefdb.bib (which is still its name) and Riki helped me past the 
initial

hurdles of getting it to work.

While I used JabRef for years I could no longer waste time getting it to
work instead of using it when I needed to find appropriate references and
insert them in documents I was writing. I encourage you to explore
alternatives and spend your time elsewhere rather than futzing with 
JabRef.


Such a change will help you have a happy new year. :-)

Regards,

Rich

Thanks, Rich, but I could install JabRef 5 via the Debian Discover 
Installer without problems.


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jabref 5 on debian

2020-01-06 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
I downloaded Jabref_5.0-1_amd64.deb from 
https://builds.jabref.org/master/ to my Download folder (Debian 
bullseye/sid).


How do I get now jabref to work? It says, it is distributed with bundled 
Java runtime Environment > no need for java installation.


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Re: e journal references in Jabref

2019-07-17 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 17.07.19 15:48, Baris Erkus wrote:

On 17-Jul-19 4:46 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

I use jabref for LyX, biblatex. I have a larger number of e-journals
as references. How can I change the entry type for all of them at once
and what exactly is the entry type? Electronic? And how do I cite
pages such as R322-R324 or III-V? This was all found by a quality
check in Jabref, and perhaps it can be done there as a bulck? Also,
how do I shift the contents of all Journal to Journaltitle, which is
recommended for biblatex?

Sorry for the off-topic, but I thought there are others in this group
who can answer some of it.

Wolfgang


Have your tried to edit your bib files with a text editor and make
necessary changes through find and replace?

No yet. But this would not help me for the entry type question and the 
Rxxx-Ryyy.


The last question is apparently superfluous, since biblatex uses journal 
as journaltitle, if that one is empty.


Wolfgang



Re: e journal references in Jabref

2019-07-17 Thread Baris Erkus
On 17-Jul-19 4:46 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> I use jabref for LyX, biblatex. I have a larger number of e-journals 
> as references. How can I change the entry type for all of them at once 
> and what exactly is the entry type? Electronic? And how do I cite 
> pages such as R322-R324 or III-V? This was all found by a quality 
> check in Jabref, and perhaps it can be done there as a bulck? Also, 
> how do I shift the contents of all Journal to Journaltitle, which is 
> recommended for biblatex?
>
> Sorry for the off-topic, but I thought there are others in this group 
> who can answer some of it.
>
> Wolfgang
>
Have your tried to edit your bib files with a text editor and make 
necessary changes through find and replace?

-- 
↓↓
Please bottom-post. Start your reply here:



e journal references in Jabref

2019-07-17 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
I use jabref for LyX, biblatex. I have a larger number of e-journals as 
references. How can I change the entry type for all of them at once and 
what exactly is the entry type? Electronic? And how do I cite pages such 
as R322-R324 or III-V? This was all found by a quality check in Jabref, 
and perhaps it can be done there as a bulck? Also, how do I shift the 
contents of all Journal to Journaltitle, which is recommended for biblatex?


Sorry for the off-topic, but I thought there are others in this group 
who can answer some of it.


Wolfgang



Re: Jabref question

2019-06-21 Thread Axel Dessecker
Wolfgang,

This rather looks like a JabRef issue. Why not post it at 
http://discourse.jabref.org/ ?

Axel


Am Freitag, 21. Juni 2019, 15:23:00 CEST schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
> I am using Jabref as a reference manager for my lyx documents. Lately I
> get this type of output from literature searches using Medline/PubMed
> 
>   javax.xml.bind.JAXBElement@3a508a29
> 
> instead of the name of the organism. Does somebody know how th get the
> actual names?
> 
> Wolfgang






Jabref question

2019-06-21 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
I am using Jabref as a reference manager for my lyx documents. Lately I 
get this type of output from literature searches using Medline/PubMed


 javax.xml.bind.JAXBElement@3a508a29

instead of the name of the organism. Does somebody know how th get the 
actual names?


Wolfgang



entry for EJournals in Jabref

2019-05-10 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

Slightly off topic: Jabref complains about an enty like this one:


@Article{Okabe2014,
.
  journal = {PLoS One},
  year    = {2014},
  volume  = {9},
  pages   = {e109693},

.

What has to be used for the entry type instead of @Article{..

?

I am using biblatex/biber. I went through the JabRef help but did not 
find the relevant hint.


Wolfgang



Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref > solved

2019-04-05 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 04.04.19 15:10, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


On 04.04.19 15:03, Axel Dessecker wrote:

Am Donnerstag, 4. April 2019, 14:41:08 CEST schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

On 04.04.19 12:44, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Am Do., 4. Apr. 2019 um 10:27 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann

mailto:engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>>:
 On 03.04.19 16:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 > As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding
  of he
  > document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 
to Document >

 > Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options
  Thanks, Jürgen. Could you or somebody else kindly try 
this one, to

 see
 whether the Umlaute are ok?
   @Article{Buenning1935,
    author  = {Bünning, E.},
    title   = {Zur {K}enntnis der erblichen {T}agesperiodizität 
bei

 den
 {P}rimärblättern von \emph{{P}haseolus multiflorus}},
    journal = {Jb. wiss. Bot.},
    year    = {1935},
    volume  = {81},
    pages   = {411--418},
 }

We need a real minimal example file (lyx file and bib) in order to
help you.

Jürgen

In preparing a minimal example I created a new minimal lyx file and a
new bib file with just one entrance (the one above) and, voila, the
problem with the Umlaute was gone. If I use the old bib file (with many
literature references) this one item does not show the Umlaute, 
although

only this item is required.

Conclusion: The problem is with the (jabref) bib file and is not a lyx
question.

But I am not sure how to proceed. If I copy my references from the old
bib file in the new one, the umlaute problem comes back, even with the
one which were correct before (I had copy/pasted them separately in the
new bib file). Perhaps someone of the Jabref users might have an idea?

Thanks for all the help

Wolfgang


Are you sure about the correct formatting of your older entries 
containing

umlauts? Have you recoded the .bib file to UTF-8?

Axel


Yes, I did.

Just found out, that apparently the new Jabref 4.3.1 needs 
Java-8-openjdk, not Java-9-openjdk, or alternatively openjfx.


Will try, and thanks

Wolfgang

installing openjdk-8-jdk and reinstalling jabref 2.10 solved my problem. 
I appreciated the help I received.


Wolfgang



Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-04 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 04.04.19 15:03, Axel Dessecker wrote:

Am Donnerstag, 4. April 2019, 14:41:08 CEST schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

On 04.04.19 12:44, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Am Do., 4. Apr. 2019 um 10:27 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann

mailto:engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>>:
 On 03.04.19 16:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 > As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding
 
 of he
 
 > document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 to Document >

 > Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options
 
 Thanks, Jürgen. Could you or somebody else kindly try this one, to

 see
 whether the Umlaute are ok?
 
 
 @Article{Buenning1935,

author  = {Bünning, E.},
title   = {Zur {K}enntnis der erblichen {T}agesperiodizität bei
 den
 {P}rimärblättern von \emph{{P}haseolus multiflorus}},
journal = {Jb. wiss. Bot.},
year= {1935},
volume  = {81},
pages   = {411--418},
 }

We need a real minimal example file (lyx file and bib) in order to
help you.

Jürgen

In preparing a minimal example I created a new minimal lyx file and a
new bib file with just one entrance (the one above) and, voila, the
problem with the Umlaute was gone. If I use the old bib file (with many
literature references) this one item does not show the Umlaute, although
only this item is required.

Conclusion: The problem is with the (jabref) bib file and is not a lyx
question.

But I am not sure how to proceed. If I copy my references from the old
bib file in the new one, the umlaute problem comes back, even with the
one which were correct before (I had copy/pasted them separately in the
new bib file). Perhaps someone of the Jabref users might have an idea?

Thanks for all the help

Wolfgang


Are you sure about the correct formatting of your older entries containing
umlauts? Have you recoded the .bib file to UTF-8?

Axel


Yes, I did.

Just found out, that apparently the new Jabref 4.3.1 needs 
Java-8-openjdk, not Java-9-openjdk, or alternatively openjfx.


Will try, and thanks

Wolfgang



Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-04 Thread Axel Dessecker
Am Donnerstag, 4. April 2019, 14:41:08 CEST schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
> On 04.04.19 12:44, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > Am Do., 4. Apr. 2019 um 10:27 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann
> > 
> > mailto:engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>>:
> > On 03.04.19 16:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > > As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding
> > 
> > of he
> > 
> > > document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 to Document >
> > > Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options
> > 
> > Thanks, Jürgen. Could you or somebody else kindly try this one, to
> > see
> > whether the Umlaute are ok?
> > 
> > 
> > @Article{Buenning1935,
> >author  = {Bünning, E.},
> >title   = {Zur {K}enntnis der erblichen {T}agesperiodizität bei
> > den
> > {P}rimärblättern von \emph{{P}haseolus multiflorus}},
> >journal = {Jb. wiss. Bot.},
> >year= {1935},
> >volume  = {81},
> >pages   = {411--418},
> > }
> > 
> > We need a real minimal example file (lyx file and bib) in order to
> > help you.
> > 
> > Jürgen
> 
> In preparing a minimal example I created a new minimal lyx file and a
> new bib file with just one entrance (the one above) and, voila, the
> problem with the Umlaute was gone. If I use the old bib file (with many
> literature references) this one item does not show the Umlaute, although
> only this item is required.
> 
> Conclusion: The problem is with the (jabref) bib file and is not a lyx
> question.
> 
> But I am not sure how to proceed. If I copy my references from the old
> bib file in the new one, the umlaute problem comes back, even with the
> one which were correct before (I had copy/pasted them separately in the
> new bib file). Perhaps someone of the Jabref users might have an idea?
> 
> Thanks for all the help
> 
> Wolfgang


Are you sure about the correct formatting of your older entries containing 
umlauts? Have you recoded the .bib file to UTF-8?

Axel



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Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-04 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann


On 04.04.19 12:44, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Do., 4. Apr. 2019 um 10:27 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann 
mailto:engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>>:



On 03.04.19 16:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding
of he
> document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 to Document >
> Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options

Thanks, Jürgen. Could you or somebody else kindly try this one, to
see
whether the Umlaute are ok?


@Article{Buenning1935,
   author  = {Bünning, E.},
   title   = {Zur {K}enntnis der erblichen {T}agesperiodizität bei
den
{P}rimärblättern von \emph{{P}haseolus multiflorus}},
   journal = {Jb. wiss. Bot.},
   year    = {1935},
   volume  = {81},
   pages   = {411--418},
}


We need a real minimal example file (lyx file and bib) in order to 
help you.


Jürgen


In preparing a minimal example I created a new minimal lyx file and a 
new bib file with just one entrance (the one above) and, voila, the 
problem with the Umlaute was gone. If I use the old bib file (with many 
literature references) this one item does not show the Umlaute, although 
only this item is required.


Conclusion: The problem is with the (jabref) bib file and is not a lyx 
question.


But I am not sure how to proceed. If I copy my references from the old 
bib file in the new one, the umlaute problem comes back, even with the 
one which were correct before (I had copy/pasted them separately in the 
new bib file). Perhaps someone of the Jabref users might have an idea?


Thanks for all the help

Wolfgang



Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Do., 4. Apr. 2019 um 10:27 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann <
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>:

>
> On 03.04.19 16:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> > As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding of he
> > document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 to Document >
> > Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options
>
> Thanks, Jürgen. Could you or somebody else kindly try this one, to see
> whether the Umlaute are ok?
>
>
> @Article{Buenning1935,
>author  = {Bünning, E.},
>title   = {Zur {K}enntnis der erblichen {T}agesperiodizität bei den
> {P}rimärblättern von \emph{{P}haseolus multiflorus}},
>journal = {Jb. wiss. Bot.},
>year= {1935},
>volume  = {81},
>pages   = {411--418},
> }
>

We need a real minimal example file (lyx file and bib) in order to help you.

Jürgen


Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-04 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann


On 04.04.19 10:27, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


On 03.04.19 16:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding of he 
document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 to Document > 
Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options


Thanks, Jürgen. Could you or somebody else kindly try this one, to see 
whether the Umlaute are ok?



@Article{Buenning1935,
  author  = {Bünning, E.},
  title   = {Zur {K}enntnis der erblichen {T}agesperiodizität bei den 
{P}rimärblättern von \emph{{P}haseolus multiflorus}},

  journal = {Jb. wiss. Bot.},
  year    = {1935},
  volume  = {81},
  pages   = {411--418},
}

I do not get them even after using your proposal (Bookstyle Komascript 
English)


Wolfgang



ps: I also did this before in the bib file

https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/81716/umlauts-in-a-jabref-managed-bibtex-file-and-file-encoding

#
That's right. If your bib-File is rather old, check in Jabref 
(Preferences->General->Encoding) that you use UTF8 and convert the file 
via |iconv -f ISO-8859-1 -t UTF-8 jabref_old.bib > jabref_new.bib|. It 
seems (tex.stackexchange.com/questions/97252/… 
<http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/97252/in-which-order-should-i-load-inputenc-and-fontenc>) 
that |\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}| is still needed, too. – mpy 
<https://tex.stackexchange.com/users/25449/mpy> Mar 2 '13 at 15:05 
<https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/81716/umlauts-in-a-jabref-managed-bibtex-file-and-file-encoding#comment217914_100569> 


#
Thanks for the answer. I'll try this next week and let you know whether 
it works fine. @mpy Thank you too for your comment. I never came across 
|iconv| so far. – halirutan 
<https://tex.stackexchange.com/users/18927/halirutan> Mar 2 '13 at 19:59 
<https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/81716/umlauts-in-a-jabref-managed-bibtex-file-and-file-encoding#comment217995_100569> 


#
3
But bibtex does not handle some utf8 characters (umlauts) from bib 
files. It will look fine in JabRef but will give errors when compiling. 
Switching to biblatex/biber solves the issue. – remus 
<https://tex.stackexchange.com/users/28053/remus> Apr 24 '13 at 19:41 
<https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/81716/umlauts-in-a-jabref-managed-bibtex-file-and-file-encoding#comment242896_100569>


however, I tried this one in the preamplewhich was refused by Lyx since 
utf8 was already defined:


|\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
|

|do I need to include inputenc and where would I do that?|

|Wolfgang
|




Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-04 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 03.04.19 16:30, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding of he 
document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 to Document > 
Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options


Thanks, Jürgen. Could you or somebody else kindly try this one, to see 
whether the Umlaute are ok?



@Article{Buenning1935,
  author  = {Bünning, E.},
  title   = {Zur {K}enntnis der erblichen {T}agesperiodizität bei den 
{P}rimärblättern von \emph{{P}haseolus multiflorus}},

  journal = {Jb. wiss. Bot.},
  year    = {1935},
  volume  = {81},
  pages   = {411--418},
}

I do not get them even after using your proposal (Bookstyle Komascript 
English)


Wolfgang




Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 16:20 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann <
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>:

> Is standard coding UTF8 ok?
>

As with BibTeX, the encoding should ideally match the encoding of he
document. If it differs, you can add bibencoding=utf8 to Document >
Settings > Bibliography > Citation Style > Options

Jürgen


Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 03.04.19 15:53, Axel Dessecker wrote:

Wolfgang,

Am Mittwoch, 3. April 2019, 15:47:58 CEST schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 15:36 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann <

engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>:

I read this and made the settings, but can't find under
tools>preferences>output>latex the setting for biber.

It should be listed in Bibliography Generation > Processor (given biber is
correctly installed).
But you shouldn't need to set it explicitly. Biber is used if "Automatic"
is set.


What about jabref? special settings for biblatex?

I don't use jabref.

Jürgen

You can select a biblatex mode in JabRef.

Axel


Thanks, Axel, yes. I had selected it already under 
>options>preferences>standard bibliography mode


Is standard coding UTF8 ok?

Wolfgang








Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann


On 03.04.19 15:47, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 15:36 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann 
mailto:engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>>:


I read this and made the settings, but can't find under
tools>preferences>output>latex the setting for biber.


It should be listed in Bibliography Generation > Processor (given 
biber is correctly installed).
But you shouldn't need to set it explicitly. Biber is used if 
"Automatic" is set.


I did not have biber installed. Will try now.

Thanks a lot, Jürgen

Wolfgang


What about jabref? special settings for biblatex?

I don't use jabref.

Jürgen


Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Axel Dessecker
Wolfgang,

Am Mittwoch, 3. April 2019, 15:47:58 CEST schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:
> Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 15:36 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann <
> 
> engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>:
> > I read this and made the settings, but can't find under
> > tools>preferences>output>latex the setting for biber.
> 
> It should be listed in Bibliography Generation > Processor (given biber is
> correctly installed).
> But you shouldn't need to set it explicitly. Biber is used if "Automatic"
> is set.
> 
> > What about jabref? special settings for biblatex?
> 
> I don't use jabref.
> 
> Jürgen

You can select a biblatex mode in JabRef.

Axel







Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 15:36 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann <
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>:

> I read this and made the settings, but can't find under
> tools>preferences>output>latex the setting for biber.
>

It should be listed in Bibliography Generation > Processor (given biber is
correctly installed).
But you shouldn't need to set it explicitly. Biber is used if "Automatic"
is set.

> What about jabref? special settings for biblatex?
>
I don't use jabref.

Jürgen


Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann


On 03.04.19 15:15, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 15:07 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann 
mailto:engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>>:


Where can I get infos re Biber Biblatex Jabref Lyx?


UserGuide, 6.5.2.2.


I read this and made the settings, but can't find under 
tools>preferences>output>latex the setting for biber.


What about jabref? special settings for biblatex?

Wolfgang



and

https://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex

Jürgen


Re: Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 15:07 Uhr schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann <
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>:

> Where can I get infos re Biber Biblatex Jabref Lyx?
>

UserGuide, 6.5.2.2.

and

https://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex

Jürgen


Biber Biblatex Lyx Jabref

2019-04-03 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

Where can I get infos re Biber Biblatex Jabref Lyx?

This one seems to be a bit old:

https://texwelt.de/wissen/fragen/2768/biblatex-und-biber-mit-lyx

Where does biber come into play?

In

https://texwelt.de/wissen/fragen/2768/biblatex-und-biber-mit-lyx

the settings are mainly done in the preamble. Is this recommended? Could 
somebody supply an example preamble for it?


What has to be done on the Jabref side?

Thanks,

Wolfgang




re: Jabref

2019-01-25 Thread Rich Shepard

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019, F M Salter wrote:


    I use linux with the KDE environment.  In KDE, one can add extra
buttons to windows' frames.  One of these is "keep below" other windows. 
If this is set, the jabref entry window appears on top.


Frank et al.,

With Xfce4 the window manager can be set to obtain focus when the cursor
enters its frame or require a left click to change the focus to the window
in which the cursor is located.

Carpe weekend,

Rich




re: Jabref

2019-01-25 Thread F M Salter
 Wolfgang Enlelmann asked about window hiding with Jabref.  I think 
the only universal solution for all OS's is to use the button to hide 
the Jabref main window, which reveals the entry window below..


    I use linux with the KDE environment.  In KDE, one can add extra 
buttons to windows' frames.  One of these is "keep below" other 
windows.  If this is set, the jabref entry window appears on top.


Regards

Frank Salter



Re: jabref

2019-01-23 Thread John Kane
Those questions are far beyond my knowledge level. We need one of the gurus
to step in. Sorry.

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 10:57, Wolfgang Engelmann 
wrote:

> On 22.01.19 20:37, John Kane wrote:
>
> Strange, I tossed your reference into an existing .bib file and the Umlaute
> came through just fine when I exported to text and to html.  I don't use
> jabref a lot so I may not be duplicating your actions> I simply went File >
> Export
> On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 2:06:49 p.m. EST, Wolfgang Engelmann
>   wrote:
>
>
> Sorry, off topic,
>
> but I have two questions re Jabref
>
> 1. If I want to save or select a file, the menu opens BEHIND the Jabref.
> How can I get it in the forground?
>
> 2. I can't get Jabref (it's 4.3.1) to export Umlaute (neither in UTF8
> nor in Din1505 nor in html.
>
> Example:
> @Article{Buenning1932c,
>   author  = {Bünning, E.},
>   title   = {Über die {E}rblichkeit der {T}agesperiodizität bei den
> \emph{{P}haseolus}-{B}lättern},
>   journal = {Jb. wiss. Botanik},
>   year= {1932},
>   volume  = {77},
>   pages   = {283-320},
> }
>
> Note, that I talk just about the Jabref export itself, not via lyx.
>
> I could not find help in the net, it just says it would work. But not
> for me.
>
> Wolfgang
>
> Thanks, John. I have, by the way, tried also to use biblatex in Jabref.
> Same problem. I also tried German as the language- no cure. Could it be due
> to a general language setting on my PC? And where would I check for it? I
> am using
>
> Downloads$ cat /etc/issue Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia \n \l and the KDE version
>
> This is the keybord input configuration:
>
> Current configuration for the input method:
>
> * Active configuration: missing (normally missing)
>
> * Normal automatic choice: none (normally ibus or fcitx or uim)
>
> * Override rule:
> zh_CN,fcitx:zh_TW,fcitx:zh_HK,fcitx:zh_SG,fcitx:ja_JP,fcitx:ko_KR,fcitx:vi_VN,fcitx
>
> * Current override choice: (de_DE)
>
> * Current automatic choice: none
>
> * Number of valid choices: 1 (normally 1)
>
> The override rule is defined in /etc/default/im-config.
>
> The configuration set by im-config is activated by re-starting X.
>
> Explicit selection is not required to enable the automatic configuration
> if the active one is default/auto/cjkv/missing.
>
> Wolfgang
>


-- 
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada


Re: jabref

2019-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

On 23.01.19 11:30, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


On 22.01.19 20:37, John Kane wrote:
Strange, I tossed your reference into an existing .bib file and the 
Umlaute came through just fine when I exported to text and to html.  
I don't use jabref a lot so I may not be duplicating your actions> I 
simply went File > Export
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 2:06:49 p.m. EST, Wolfgang Engelmann 
 wrote:



Sorry, off topic,

but I have two questions re Jabref

1. If I want to save or select a file, the menu opens BEHIND the Jabref.
How can I get it in the forground?

2. I can't get Jabref (it's 4.3.1) to export Umlaute (neither in UTF8
nor in Din1505 nor in html.

Example:
@Article{Buenning1932c,
  author  = {Bünning, E.},
  title   = {Über die {E}rblichkeit der {T}agesperiodizität bei den
\emph{{P}haseolus}-{B}lättern},
  journal = {Jb. wiss. Botanik},
  year    = {1932},
  volume  = {77},
  pages   = {283-320},
}

Note, that I talk just about the Jabref export itself, not via lyx.

I could not find help in the net, it just says it would work. But not
for me.

Wolfgang


Thanks, John. I have, by the way, tried also to use biblatex in 
Jabref. Same problem. I also tried German as the language- no cure. 
Could it be due to a general language setting on my PC? And where 
would I check for it? I am using


Downloads$ cat /etc/issue Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia \n \l and the KDE version

This is the keybord input configuration:

Current configuration for the input method:

* Active configuration: missing (normally missing)

* Normal automatic choice: none (normally ibus or fcitx or uim)

* Override rule: 
zh_CN,fcitx:zh_TW,fcitx:zh_HK,fcitx:zh_SG,fcitx:ja_JP,fcitx:ko_KR,fcitx:vi_VN,fcitx


* Current override choice: (de_DE)

* Current automatic choice: none

* Number of valid choices: 1 (normally 1)

The override rule is defined in /etc/default/im-config.

The configuration set by im-config is activated by re-starting X.

Explicit selection is not required to enable the automatic 
configuration if the active one is default/auto/cjkv/missing.


Wolfgang




I had started the new Jabref (4.3.1) from the folder in which I keep it 
by using


~/JABREF-4.3.1$ java -jar JabRef-4.3.1.jar

I noticed that synaptic has an old jabref, which I now removed 
completely via synaptic. Now the export of Umlaute works. No idea, what 
went wrong before.


MY FIRST QUESTION REMAINS:

1. If I want to save or select a file, the menu opens BEHIND the Jabref.
How can I get it in the forground?
Thanks for help,
Wolfgang


Re: jabref

2019-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

On 22.01.19 20:37, John Kane wrote:
Strange, I tossed your reference into an existing .bib file and the 
Umlaute came through just fine when I exported to text and to html.  I 
don't use jabref a lot so I may not be duplicating your actions> I 
simply went File > Export
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 2:06:49 p.m. EST, Wolfgang Engelmann 
 wrote:



Sorry, off topic,

but I have two questions re Jabref

1. If I want to save or select a file, the menu opens BEHIND the Jabref.
How can I get it in the forground?

2. I can't get Jabref (it's 4.3.1) to export Umlaute (neither in UTF8
nor in Din1505 nor in html.

Example:
@Article{Buenning1932c,
  author  = {Bünning, E.},
  title   = {Über die {E}rblichkeit der {T}agesperiodizität bei den
\emph{{P}haseolus}-{B}lättern},
  journal = {Jb. wiss. Botanik},
  year    = {1932},
  volume  = {77},
  pages   = {283-320},
}

Note, that I talk just about the Jabref export itself, not via lyx.

I could not find help in the net, it just says it would work. But not
for me.

Wolfgang


Thanks, John. I have, by the way, tried also to use biblatex in Jabref. 
Same problem. I also tried German as the language- no cure. Could it be 
due to a general language setting on my PC? And where would I check for 
it? I am using


Downloads$ cat /etc/issue Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia \n \l and the KDE version

This is the keybord input configuration:

Current configuration for the input method:

* Active configuration: missing (normally missing)

* Normal automatic choice: none (normally ibus or fcitx or uim)

* Override rule: 
zh_CN,fcitx:zh_TW,fcitx:zh_HK,fcitx:zh_SG,fcitx:ja_JP,fcitx:ko_KR,fcitx:vi_VN,fcitx


* Current override choice: (de_DE)

* Current automatic choice: none

* Number of valid choices: 1 (normally 1)

The override rule is defined in /etc/default/im-config.

The configuration set by im-config is activated by re-starting X.

Explicit selection is not required to enable the automatic configuration 
if the active one is default/auto/cjkv/missing.


Wolfgang



Re: jabref

2019-01-22 Thread John Kane
 Strange, I tossed your reference into an existing .bib file and the Umlaute 
came through just fine when I exported to text and to html.  I don't use jabref 
a lot so I may not be duplicating your actions> I simply went File > Export
   On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 2:06:49 p.m. EST, Wolfgang Engelmann 
 wrote:  
 
 Sorry, off topic,

but I have two questions re Jabref

1. If I want to save or select a file, the menu opens BEHIND the Jabref. 
How can I get it in the forground?

2. I can't get Jabref (it's 4.3.1) to export Umlaute (neither in UTF8 
nor in Din1505 nor in html.

Example:
@Article{Buenning1932c,
   author  = {Bünning, E.},
   title   = {Über die {E}rblichkeit der {T}agesperiodizität bei den 
\emph{{P}haseolus}-{B}lättern},
   journal = {Jb. wiss. Botanik},
   year    = {1932},
   volume  = {77},
   pages   = {283-320},
}

Note, that I talk just about the Jabref export itself, not via lyx.

I could not find help in the net, it just says it would work. But not 
for me.

Wolfgang

  

jabref

2019-01-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

Sorry, off topic,

but I have two questions re Jabref

1. If I want to save or select a file, the menu opens BEHIND the Jabref. 
How can I get it in the forground?


2. I can't get Jabref (it's 4.3.1) to export Umlaute (neither in UTF8 
nor in Din1505 nor in html.


Example:
@Article{Buenning1932c,
  author  = {Bünning, E.},
  title   = {Über die {E}rblichkeit der {T}agesperiodizität bei den 
\emph{{P}haseolus}-{B}lättern},

  journal = {Jb. wiss. Botanik},
  year    = {1932},
  volume  = {77},
  pages   = {283-320},
}

Note, that I talk just about the Jabref export itself, not via lyx.

I could not find help in the net, it just says it would work. But not 
for me.


Wolfgang



Re: Jabref Journal abbreviations

2018-09-04 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
I think, what I did wrong was not to select all the references with ctr 
a and use afterward the abbreviation step.


What I haven't solved yet is this:

if I select in JabRef e.g. options, it opens *behind* the JabRef main 
window. How do I get it to open in such a way that it is visible right 
away without having to move the main window aside?


Wolfgang



On 04.09.2018 09:00, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


I am trying to use the built in journal abbreviation list of JabRef-4.3.1

With Options>manage Journal abbreviations I select

JabRef built in list

but it does not seem to work for the references. If I check again 
Options>manage Journal abbreviations


the list is not selected any more. I looked in the Internet but could 
not find a remedy. Does somebody know how to do it?


By the way, if I select in JabRef e.g. options, it opens *behind* the 
JabRef main window. How do I get it to open in such a way that it is 
visible right away without having to move the main window aside?


Sorry for the OT question, but the JabRef FAQs are difficult to search 
through.


BTW, I am using Linux Mint

Wolfgang





Jabref Journal abbreviations

2018-09-04 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

I am trying to use the built in journal abbreviation list of JabRef-4.3.1

With Options>manage Journal abbreviations I select

JabRef built in list

but it does not seem to work for the references. If I check again 
Options>manage Journal abbreviations


the list is not selected any more. I looked in the Internet but could 
not find a remedy. Does somebody know how to do it?


By the way, if I select in JabRef e.g. options, it opens *behind* the 
JabRef main window. How do I get it to open in such a way that it is 
visible right away without having to move the main window aside?


Sorry for the OT question, but the JabRef FAQs are difficult to search 
through.


BTW, I am using Linux Mint

Wolfgang



Re: Jabref under linux-mint

2018-08-30 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


In any case, I downloaded the 4.3.1 jar file just now and ran it
successfully with exactly the same command line you used. I opened the
terminal in the folder where the jar file was located. Is it possible that
you are in a different directory and just need to supply the path to the
jar file?


  This is one reason to use shell scripts. For example, my jabref.sh* (chmod
a+x) contains:

#!/bin/bash

cd /opt/JabRef/
java -jar JabRef-3.8.2.jar
cd

  This lets me open it from any virtual desktop (Xfce4 panel).

HTH,

Rich


Re: Jabref under linux-mint > semi - solved

2018-08-30 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 30.08.2018 17:26, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 08/29/2018 07:13 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Slightly OT:

Is there somebody who uses Jabref as a reference manager under 
Linux-Mint successfully and could give me a hint how he/she 
succeeded? I am always getting


java -jar Jabref-4.3.1.jar

Error: Unable to access jarfile Jabref-4.3.1.jar

I tried under Linux-mint 18.3 Sylvia openjdk version "1.8.0_181", 
and  Java SE Runtime environment of Oracle, and have set the Path in 
/etc/profile to


export JAVA_HOME=/home/wolfgang/java/jre-10.0.2
export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH

Cheers,

Wolfgang


Wolfgang,

I use JabRef on the same setup (Mint 18.3, Oracle runtime) with no 
problems. I installed JabRef from the repositories (using Software 
Manager), which means I've got version 2.10. I don't know why the 
repos are so far behind.


In any case, I downloaded the 4.3.1 jar file just now and ran it 
successfully with exactly the same command line you used. I opened the 
terminal in the folder where the jar file was located. Is it possible 
that you are in a different directory and just need to supply the path 
to the jar file?


Paul


Thanks, Paul.
I have my JabRef-4.3.1.jar file in my home under /JABREF
If I mouseclick on it, it opens alright. If I open it in a terminal, I 
am told:


wolfgang@wolfgang-Mr-Whisper-Ultra-SSD-II:/mnt/sdb/we/JABREF-4.3.1$ java 
-jar JabRef-4.3.1.jar
17:58:43.101 [AWT-EventQueue-0] ERROR org.jabref.logic.l10n.Localization 
- Messages are not initialized before accessing Your current Java 
version (%0) is not supported. Please install version %1 or higher.


So I can work with it, but I do not understand the terminal message. 
Perhaps somebody had an idea, what's going wrong here.


Wolfgang



Re: Jabref under linux-mint

2018-08-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 08/29/2018 07:13 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Slightly OT:

Is there somebody who uses Jabref as a reference manager under 
Linux-Mint successfully and could give me a hint how he/she succeeded? 
I am always getting


java -jar Jabref-4.3.1.jar

Error: Unable to access jarfile Jabref-4.3.1.jar

I tried under Linux-mint 18.3 Sylvia openjdk version "1.8.0_181", and  
Java SE Runtime environment of Oracle, and have set the Path in 
/etc/profile to


export JAVA_HOME=/home/wolfgang/java/jre-10.0.2
export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH

Cheers,

Wolfgang


Wolfgang,

I use JabRef on the same setup (Mint 18.3, Oracle runtime) with no 
problems. I installed JabRef from the repositories (using Software 
Manager), which means I've got version 2.10. I don't know why the repos 
are so far behind.


In any case, I downloaded the 4.3.1 jar file just now and ran it 
successfully with exactly the same command line you used. I opened the 
terminal in the folder where the jar file was located. Is it possible 
that you are in a different directory and just need to supply the path 
to the jar file?


Paul



Re: Jabref under linux-mint > solved

2018-08-29 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann




On 29.08.2018 13:13, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Slightly OT:

Is there somebody who uses Jabref as a reference manager under 
Linux-Mint successfully and could give me a hint how he/she succeeded? 
I am always getting


java -jar Jabref-4.3.1.jar

Error: Unable to access jarfile Jabref-4.3.1.jar

I tried under Linux-mint 18.3 Sylvia openjdk version "1.8.0_181", and  
Java SE Runtime environment of Oracle, and have set the Path in 
/etc/profile to


export JAVA_HOME=/home/wolfgang/java/jre-10.0.2
export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH

Cheers,

Wolfgang


Sorry for the noice, I used instead of JabRef-4.3.1.jar > Jabref-4.3.1.jar
r instead of R! I wonder how often this happens.
Wolfgang


Jabref under linux-mint

2018-08-29 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

Slightly OT:

Is there somebody who uses Jabref as a reference manager under 
Linux-Mint successfully and could give me a hint how he/she succeeded? I 
am always getting


java -jar Jabref-4.3.1.jar

Error: Unable to access jarfile Jabref-4.3.1.jar

I tried under Linux-mint 18.3 Sylvia openjdk version "1.8.0_181", and  
Java SE Runtime environment of Oracle, and have set the Path in 
/etc/profile to


export JAVA_HOME=/home/wolfgang/java/jre-10.0.2
export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH

Cheers,

Wolfgang



Re: Jabref-3.7 > solved

2016-12-01 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
I would like to thank Paul A. Rubin and Richard Shepard for their 
suggestions and help re Jabref-3.7 installation (which I use as a 
reference manager under Lyx).


The problem was, that my Jabref 2.10 did recently not give any results 
under WEB search for references, e.g. by using medline (I am using 
debian jessie)


It turned out that the solution was quite simple:

Since Jabref 3.8 needs Java 8, I installed this first by using synaptic. 
In /search /I asked for java8 (not java 8 -this gives you more offers) 
and got


1- oracle-java8-installer

2- oracle-java8-set-default

3- oracle-java8-iunlimited-jce-policy

out of which I selected /1 and 2/, but NOT yet 3, for installing.

/3/ was installed AFTER 1 and 2 installation was finished

Since jabref of debian offers only version 2.10 as the newest version, I 
downloaded it from

 https://sourceforge.net/projects/jabref/
as JabRef-3.7.jar (35MiB) and put it as a starter on my desktop. Now I 
can start it by clicking at the icon and I am able to use the medline 
data bank again.

Wolfgang


Re: Jabref-3.7

2016-11-29 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 11/29/2016 12:07 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:




On 29.11.2016 17:10, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 11/29/2016 10:41 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:




On 29.11.2016 15:49, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:



On 29.11.2016 15:05, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

I am using Jabref for my lyx work (debian). The version I use 
(2.10) does not support the medline any more.


Wolfgang,

  I, too, use JabRef with LyX; it's great! I'm using JabRef-3.7 
and ...

Thanks, Rich,
but Jabref-3.7 is the trouble. I have it installed already and used 
it all the time, but it is not supporting medline any more, which I 
used to use and need for fetching references from the web.

Wolfgang


I apparently need Java 8 for it -JRE or JDK are offered, which 
should go
in /opt. Which one is recommendable? None is given in synaptic. 
And how do
I > unpack the JRE or JDK into /opt? Do I extract it first on my 
home/download and copy the folder as root into it?


  I'm using openjdk-8u91_b14 on Slackware. I recommend it (or 
Oracle's Java
JDK) over the limited JRE version as it gives you more 
capabilities and

storage space is generally not an issue.

How do I install jabref-3.7? Unpacking it gives me a lot of 
folders/files,

but I can't find a help||


  I don't know Debian or its derivatives, so I suggest that you go 
to the
download Web page <https://www.fosshub.com/JabRef.html>, select 
the second
option, "Download JabRef Platform independent runnable JAR," and 
deposit the

download in /opt/. You'll have /opt/JabRef-3.7.jar.

  To run it, I have a simple shell script (called jabref.sh):

#!/bin/bash

cd /opt/JabRef/
java -jar JabRef-3.7.jar
cd

  No muss, no bother.

HTH,

Rich



I guess the problem I encounter has to do with these first lines 
from the script Paul pointed out. I checked the /etc/apt/sources.list
echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial 
main" | tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list
echo "deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu 
xenial main" | tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list


but there is listed also sources.list.d (see NOTE below) which 
contains the files

lyx-devel-release-jessie.list
with:
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lyx-devel/release/ubuntu/ jessie main
# deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/lyx-devel/release/ubuntu/ jessie main

and
webupd8team-java.list
with
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial main

NOTE:
The function of the |/etc/apt/sources.list.d| directory is as follows:

Using the directory you can easily add new repositories w/o the need 
to edit the central |/etc/apt/sources.list| file. I.e. you can just 
put a file with a unique name and the same format as 
|/etc/apt/sources.list| into this folder and it is used by apt. In 
order to remove this source again you can just remove that specific 
file w/o the need for handling side effects, parsing or mangling 
with |/etc/apt/sources.list|. It's mainly for scripts or other 
packages to put their repositories there automatically - if you 
manually add repositories you could add them to 
|/etc/apt/sources.list| manually.


My QUESTION: should the script work with the infos in the two files in
sources.list.d?

Wolfgang

Wolfgang,

The webupd8team-java.list looks okay provided that you are either 
running Ubuntu Xenial (or a distribution built on that) or Debian 
Stretch (which is apparently the Debian version upon which Xenial is 
based). If, as the LyX list suggests, you're running Debian Jessie, 
then I think you need a webupd8team archive based on one of the 
following Ubuntu versions: Trusty; Utopic; Vivid; or Wily.


Paul


I am running Debian Jessie. So I should have used
lyx-devel-release-jessie.list
with:
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lyx-devel/release/ubuntu/ jessie main
# deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/lyx-devel/release/ubuntu/ jessie main

and not
webupd8team-java.list
with
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial main

??
Wolfgang
I'm not sure about the LyX PPA. If you got a version of LyX that works, 
I guess I would leave it alone. I would have thought you would need to 
specify an Ubuntu version, such as


 deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lyx-devel/release/ubuntu/ trusty main

or one of the other Ubuntu versions derived from Jessie.

For the webupd8team-java.list entry, I would change "xenial" to "wily" 
in both lines and see if that helps. If any of the webupd8-java packages 
installed before you got the abort, you probably should uninstall them 
through Synaptic or apt, then (after fixing the .list file) update and 
try installing the two packages from the webupd8team PPA.


Paul


Re: Jabref-3.7

2016-11-29 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 29.11.2016 17:10, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 11/29/2016 10:41 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:




On 29.11.2016 15:49, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:



On 29.11.2016 15:05, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

I am using Jabref for my lyx work (debian). The version I use 
(2.10) does not support the medline any more.


Wolfgang,

  I, too, use JabRef with LyX; it's great! I'm using JabRef-3.7 and 
...

Thanks, Rich,
but Jabref-3.7 is the trouble. I have it installed already and used 
it all the time, but it is not supporting medline any more, which I 
used to use and need for fetching references from the web.

Wolfgang


I apparently need Java 8 for it -JRE or JDK are offered, which 
should go
in /opt. Which one is recommendable? None is given in synaptic. 
And how do
I > unpack the JRE or JDK into /opt? Do I extract it first on my 
home/download and copy the folder as root into it?


  I'm using openjdk-8u91_b14 on Slackware. I recommend it (or 
Oracle's Java
JDK) over the limited JRE version as it gives you more capabilities 
and

storage space is generally not an issue.

How do I install jabref-3.7? Unpacking it gives me a lot of 
folders/files,

but I can't find a help||


  I don't know Debian or its derivatives, so I suggest that you go 
to the
download Web page <https://www.fosshub.com/JabRef.html>, select the 
second
option, "Download JabRef Platform independent runnable JAR," and 
deposit the

download in /opt/. You'll have /opt/JabRef-3.7.jar.

  To run it, I have a simple shell script (called jabref.sh):

#!/bin/bash

cd /opt/JabRef/
java -jar JabRef-3.7.jar
cd

  No muss, no bother.

HTH,

Rich



I guess the problem I encounter has to do with these first lines from 
the script Paul pointed out. I checked the /etc/apt/sources.list
echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial 
main" | tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list
echo "deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial 
main" | tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list


but there is listed also sources.list.d (see NOTE below) which 
contains the files

lyx-devel-release-jessie.list
with:
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lyx-devel/release/ubuntu/ jessie main
# deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/lyx-devel/release/ubuntu/ jessie main

and
webupd8team-java.list
with
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial main

NOTE:
The function of the |/etc/apt/sources.list.d| directory is as follows:

Using the directory you can easily add new repositories w/o the need 
to edit the central |/etc/apt/sources.list| file. I.e. you can just 
put a file with a unique name and the same format as 
|/etc/apt/sources.list| into this folder and it is used by apt. In 
order to remove this source again you can just remove that specific 
file w/o the need for handling side effects, parsing or mangling with 
|/etc/apt/sources.list|. It's mainly for scripts or other packages to 
put their repositories there automatically - if you manually add 
repositories you could add them to |/etc/apt/sources.list| manually.


My QUESTION: should the script work with the infos in the two files in
sources.list.d?

Wolfgang

Wolfgang,

The webupd8team-java.list looks okay provided that you are either 
running Ubuntu Xenial (or a distribution built on that) or Debian 
Stretch (which is apparently the Debian version upon which Xenial is 
based). If, as the LyX list suggests, you're running Debian Jessie, 
then I think you need a webupd8team archive based on one of the 
following Ubuntu versions: Trusty; Utopic; Vivid; or Wily.


Paul


I am running Debian Jessie. So I should have used
lyx-devel-release-jessie.list
with:
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lyx-devel/release/ubuntu/ jessie main
# deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/lyx-devel/release/ubuntu/ jessie main

and not
webupd8team-java.list
with
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial main

??
Wolfgang


Re: Jabref-3.7

2016-11-29 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 29.11.2016 16:51, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 11/29/2016 10:06 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:




On 29.11.2016 14:57, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 11/29/2016 04:34 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


Slightly off topic:

I am using Jabref for my lyx work (debian). The version I use 
(2.10) does not support the medline any more.


I apparently need Java 8 for it -JRE or JDK are offered, which 
should go in /opt. Which one is recommendable?  None is given in 
synaptic. And how do I unpack the JRE or JDK into /opt? Do I 
extract it first on my home/download and copy the folder as root 
into it?


How do I install jabref-3.7? Unpacking it gives me a lot of 
folders/files, but I can't find a help.

||

A long discussion is in the following, but it is beyond me:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=814901

Wolfgang


||

Wolfgang,

You might want to look at 
https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java 
<https://launchpad.net/%7Ewebupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java>. If you 
add their PPA to Synaptic and install their package (which is an 
updater, not Java itself), it will install Java 8. Moreover, as new 
versions of Java appear, their package will show up in your usual 
updates and, when you update it, will automatically install the 
latest Java. It also takes care of various configuration nonsense, 
such as setting the latest Java as the preferred version, that 
otherwise can be a PITA.


Cheers,
Paul

Thanks, Paul, for the pointer. I have run the script but at the end I 
was asked whether I would like to continue: [J/n] y
I tried j (ja in German), J, y and just return > in all cases I get 
an abortion:

Es müssen 39,7 kB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 180 kB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] y
Abbruch.
root@wolfgang-Mr-Whisper-Ultra-SSD-II:~#
any idea what I could do to get it to continue?
Wolfgang

Wolfgang,

First, what operating system do you have (and what architecture -- 
i86, amd64, ...)? Second, which script did you run?


Paul


Its Debian Jessie and amd64
Wolfgang


Re: Jabref-3.7

2016-11-29 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 11/29/2016 10:41 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:




On 29.11.2016 15:49, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:



On 29.11.2016 15:05, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

I am using Jabref for my lyx work (debian). The version I use 
(2.10) does not support the medline any more.


Wolfgang,

  I, too, use JabRef with LyX; it's great! I'm using JabRef-3.7 and ...

Thanks, Rich,
but Jabref-3.7 is the trouble. I have it installed already and used 
it all the time, but it is not supporting medline any more, which I 
used to use and need for fetching references from the web.

Wolfgang


I apparently need Java 8 for it -JRE or JDK are offered, which 
should go
in /opt. Which one is recommendable? None is given in synaptic. And 
how do
I > unpack the JRE or JDK into /opt? Do I extract it first on my 
home/download and copy the folder as root into it?


  I'm using openjdk-8u91_b14 on Slackware. I recommend it (or 
Oracle's Java

JDK) over the limited JRE version as it gives you more capabilities and
storage space is generally not an issue.

How do I install jabref-3.7? Unpacking it gives me a lot of 
folders/files,

but I can't find a help||


  I don't know Debian or its derivatives, so I suggest that you go 
to the
download Web page <https://www.fosshub.com/JabRef.html>, select the 
second
option, "Download JabRef Platform independent runnable JAR," and 
deposit the

download in /opt/. You'll have /opt/JabRef-3.7.jar.

  To run it, I have a simple shell script (called jabref.sh):

#!/bin/bash

cd /opt/JabRef/
java -jar JabRef-3.7.jar
cd

  No muss, no bother.

HTH,

Rich



I guess the problem I encounter has to do with these first lines from 
the script Paul pointed out. I checked the /etc/apt/sources.list
echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial 
main" | tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list
echo "deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial 
main" | tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list


but there is listed also sources.list.d (see NOTE below) which 
contains the files

lyx-devel-release-jessie.list
with:
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lyx-devel/release/ubuntu/ jessie main
# deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/lyx-devel/release/ubuntu/ jessie main

and
webupd8team-java.list
with
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial main

NOTE:
The function of the |/etc/apt/sources.list.d| directory is as follows:

Using the directory you can easily add new repositories w/o the need 
to edit the central |/etc/apt/sources.list| file. I.e. you can just 
put a file with a unique name and the same format as 
|/etc/apt/sources.list| into this folder and it is used by apt. In 
order to remove this source again you can just remove that specific 
file w/o the need for handling side effects, parsing or mangling with 
|/etc/apt/sources.list|. It's mainly for scripts or other packages to 
put their repositories there automatically - if you manually add 
repositories you could add them to |/etc/apt/sources.list| manually.


My QUESTION: should the script work with the infos in the two files in
sources.list.d?

Wolfgang

Wolfgang,

The webupd8team-java.list looks okay provided that you are either 
running Ubuntu Xenial (or a distribution built on that) or Debian 
Stretch (which is apparently the Debian version upon which Xenial is 
based). If, as the LyX list suggests, you're running Debian Jessie, then 
I think you need a webupd8team archive based on one of the following 
Ubuntu versions: Trusty; Utopic; Vivid; or Wily.


Paul



Re: Jabref-3.7

2016-11-29 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 11/29/2016 10:06 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:




On 29.11.2016 14:57, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 11/29/2016 04:34 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


Slightly off topic:

I am using Jabref for my lyx work (debian). The version I use (2.10) 
does not support the medline any more.


I apparently need Java 8 for it -JRE or JDK are offered, which 
should go in /opt. Which one is recommendable?  None is given in 
synaptic. And how do I unpack the JRE or JDK into /opt? Do I extract 
it first on my home/download and copy the folder as root into it?


How do I install jabref-3.7? Unpacking it gives me a lot of 
folders/files, but I can't find a help.

||

A long discussion is in the following, but it is beyond me:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=814901

Wolfgang


||

Wolfgang,

You might want to look at 
https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java 
<https://launchpad.net/%7Ewebupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java>. If you 
add their PPA to Synaptic and install their package (which is an 
updater, not Java itself), it will install Java 8. Moreover, as new 
versions of Java appear, their package will show up in your usual 
updates and, when you update it, will automatically install the 
latest Java. It also takes care of various configuration nonsense, 
such as setting the latest Java as the preferred version, that 
otherwise can be a PITA.


Cheers,
Paul

Thanks, Paul, for the pointer. I have run the script but at the end I 
was asked whether I would like to continue: [J/n] y
I tried j (ja in German), J, y and just return > in all cases I get an 
abortion:

Es müssen 39,7 kB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 180 kB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] y
Abbruch.
root@wolfgang-Mr-Whisper-Ultra-SSD-II:~#
any idea what I could do to get it to continue?
Wolfgang

Wolfgang,

First, what operating system do you have (and what architecture -- i86, 
amd64, ...)? Second, which script did you run?


Paul



Re: Jabref-3.7

2016-11-29 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 29.11.2016 15:49, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:



On 29.11.2016 15:05, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

I am using Jabref for my lyx work (debian). The version I use (2.10) 
does not support the medline any more.


Wolfgang,

  I, too, use JabRef with LyX; it's great! I'm using JabRef-3.7 and ...

Thanks, Rich,
but Jabref-3.7 is the trouble. I have it installed already and used it 
all the time, but it is not supporting medline any more, which I used 
to use and need for fetching references from the web.

Wolfgang


I apparently need Java 8 for it -JRE or JDK are offered, which 
should go
in /opt. Which one is recommendable? None is given in synaptic. And 
how do
I > unpack the JRE or JDK into /opt? Do I extract it first on my 
home/download and copy the folder as root into it?


  I'm using openjdk-8u91_b14 on Slackware. I recommend it (or 
Oracle's Java

JDK) over the limited JRE version as it gives you more capabilities and
storage space is generally not an issue.

How do I install jabref-3.7? Unpacking it gives me a lot of 
folders/files,

but I can't find a help||


  I don't know Debian or its derivatives, so I suggest that you go to 
the
download Web page <https://www.fosshub.com/JabRef.html>, select the 
second
option, "Download JabRef Platform independent runnable JAR," and 
deposit the

download in /opt/. You'll have /opt/JabRef-3.7.jar.

  To run it, I have a simple shell script (called jabref.sh):

#!/bin/bash

cd /opt/JabRef/
java -jar JabRef-3.7.jar
cd

  No muss, no bother.

HTH,

Rich



I guess the problem I encounter has to do with these first lines from 
the script Paul pointed out. I checked the /etc/apt/sources.list
echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial main" 
| tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list
echo "deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial 
main" | tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list


but there is listed also sources.list.d (see NOTE below) which contains 
the files

lyx-devel-release-jessie.list
with:
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lyx-devel/release/ubuntu/ jessie main
# deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/lyx-devel/release/ubuntu/ jessie main

and
webupd8team-java.list
with
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu xenial main

NOTE:
The function of the |/etc/apt/sources.list.d| directory is as follows:

Using the directory you can easily add new repositories w/o the need to 
edit the central |/etc/apt/sources.list| file. I.e. you can just put a 
file with a unique name and the same format as |/etc/apt/sources.list| 
into this folder and it is used by apt. In order to remove this source 
again you can just remove that specific file w/o the need for handling 
side effects, parsing or mangling with |/etc/apt/sources.list|. It's 
mainly for scripts or other packages to put their repositories there 
automatically - if you manually add repositories you could add them to 
|/etc/apt/sources.list| manually.


My QUESTION: should the script work with the infos in the two files in
sources.list.d?

Wolfgang


Re: Jabref-3.7

2016-11-29 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 29.11.2016 14:57, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 11/29/2016 04:34 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


Slightly off topic:

I am using Jabref for my lyx work (debian). The version I use (2.10) 
does not support the medline any more.


I apparently need Java 8 for it -JRE or JDK are offered, which should 
go in /opt. Which one is recommendable?  None is given in synaptic. 
And how do I unpack the JRE or JDK into /opt? Do I extract it first 
on my home/download and copy the folder as root into it?


How do I install jabref-3.7? Unpacking it gives me a lot of 
folders/files, but I can't find a help.

||

A long discussion is in the following, but it is beyond me:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=814901

Wolfgang


||

Wolfgang,

You might want to look at 
https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java 
<https://launchpad.net/%7Ewebupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java>. If you 
add their PPA to Synaptic and install their package (which is an 
updater, not Java itself), it will install Java 8. Moreover, as new 
versions of Java appear, their package will show up in your usual 
updates and, when you update it, will automatically install the latest 
Java. It also takes care of various configuration nonsense, such as 
setting the latest Java as the preferred version, that otherwise can 
be a PITA.


Cheers,
Paul

Thanks, Paul, for the pointer. I have run the script but at the end I 
was asked whether I would like to continue: [J/n] y
I tried j (ja in German), J, y and just return > in all cases I get an 
abortion:

Es müssen 39,7 kB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 180 kB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] y
Abbruch.
root@wolfgang-Mr-Whisper-Ultra-SSD-II:~#
any idea what I could do to get it to continue?
Wolfgang


Re: Jabref-3.7

2016-11-29 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 29.11.2016 15:05, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

I am using Jabref for my lyx work (debian). The version I use (2.10) 
does not support the medline any more.


Wolfgang,

  I, too, use JabRef with LyX; it's great! I'm using JabRef-3.7 and ...

Thanks, Rich,
but Jabref-3.7 is the trouble. I have it installed already and used it 
all the time, but it is not supporting medline any more, which I used to 
use and need for fetching references from the web.

Wolfgang



I apparently need Java 8 for it -JRE or JDK are offered, which should go
in /opt. Which one is recommendable? None is given in synaptic. And 
how do
I > unpack the JRE or JDK into /opt? Do I extract it first on my 
home/download and copy the folder as root into it?


  I'm using openjdk-8u91_b14 on Slackware. I recommend it (or Oracle's 
Java

JDK) over the limited JRE version as it gives you more capabilities and
storage space is generally not an issue.

How do I install jabref-3.7? Unpacking it gives me a lot of 
folders/files,

but I can't find a help||


  I don't know Debian or its derivatives, so I suggest that you go to the
download Web page <https://www.fosshub.com/JabRef.html>, select the 
second
option, "Download JabRef Platform independent runnable JAR," and 
deposit the

download in /opt/. You'll have /opt/JabRef-3.7.jar.

  To run it, I have a simple shell script (called jabref.sh):

#!/bin/bash

cd /opt/JabRef/
java -jar JabRef-3.7.jar
cd

  No muss, no bother.

HTH,

Rich





Re: Jabref-3.7

2016-11-29 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


Usually, when you only care about running Java programs on your browser or
computer you will only install *JRE*. It's all you need. On the other
hand, if you are planning to do some Java programming, you will also need
*JDK*.


Wolfgang,

  There may be tools and applications you use that need to be locally built
so installing the JDK prevents a build failing because part of it is in Java
and you can't compile that portion. A rare event, but the JDK covers you.

Rich


Re: Jabref-3.7

2016-11-29 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

I am using Jabref for my lyx work (debian). The version I use (2.10) does not 
support the medline any more.


Wolfgang,

  I, too, use JabRef with LyX; it's great! I'm using JabRef-3.7 and ...


I apparently need Java 8 for it -JRE or JDK are offered, which should go
in /opt. Which one is recommendable? None is given in synaptic. And how do
I > unpack the JRE or JDK into /opt? Do I extract it first on my home/download 
and copy the folder as root into it?


  I'm using openjdk-8u91_b14 on Slackware. I recommend it (or Oracle's Java
JDK) over the limited JRE version as it gives you more capabilities and
storage space is generally not an issue.


How do I install jabref-3.7? Unpacking it gives me a lot of folders/files,
but I can't find a help||


  I don't know Debian or its derivatives, so I suggest that you go to the
download Web page <https://www.fosshub.com/JabRef.html>, select the second
option, "Download JabRef Platform independent runnable JAR," and deposit the
download in /opt/. You'll have /opt/JabRef-3.7.jar.

  To run it, I have a simple shell script (called jabref.sh):

#!/bin/bash

cd /opt/JabRef/
java -jar JabRef-3.7.jar
cd

  No muss, no bother.

HTH,

Rich



Re: Jabref-3.7

2016-11-29 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 11/29/2016 04:34 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


Slightly off topic:

I am using Jabref for my lyx work (debian). The version I use (2.10) 
does not support the medline any more.


I apparently need Java 8 for it -JRE or JDK are offered, which should 
go in /opt. Which one is recommendable?  None is given in synaptic. 
And how do I unpack the JRE or JDK into /opt? Do I extract it first on 
my home/download and copy the folder as root into it?


How do I install jabref-3.7? Unpacking it gives me a lot of 
folders/files, but I can't find a help.

||

A long discussion is in the following, but it is beyond me:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=814901

Wolfgang


||

Wolfgang,

You might want to look at 
https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java 
<https://launchpad.net/%7Ewebupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java>. If you add 
their PPA to Synaptic and install their package (which is an updater, 
not Java itself), it will install Java 8. Moreover, as new versions of 
Java appear, their package will show up in your usual updates and, when 
you update it, will automatically install the latest Java. It also takes 
care of various configuration nonsense, such as setting the latest Java 
as the preferred version, that otherwise can be a PITA.


Cheers,
Paul



Re: Jabref-3.7

2016-11-29 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann



On 29.11.2016 10:34, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


Slightly off topic:

I am using Jabref for my lyx work (debian). The version I use (2.10) 
does not support the medline any more.


I apparently need Java 8 for it -JRE or JDK are offered, which should 
go in /opt. Which one is recommendable?  None is given in synaptic. 
And how do I unpack the JRE or JDK into /opt? Do I extract it first on 
my home/download and copy the folder as root into it?


How do I install jabref-3.7? Unpacking it gives me a lot of 
folders/files, but I can't find a help.

||

A long discussion is in the following, but it is beyond me:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=814901

Wolfgang


To answer my first question:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1906445/what-is-the-difference-between-jdk-and-jre

*JRE*: Java Runtime Environment. It is basically the Java Virtual 
Machine where your Java programs run on. It also includes browser 
plugins for Applet execution.


*JDK*: It's the full featured Software Development Kit for Java, 
including *JRE*, and the compilers and tools (like JavaDoc, and Java 
Debugger) to create and compile programs.


Usually, when you only care about running Java programs on your browser 
or computer you will only install *JRE*. It's all you need. On the other 
hand, if you are planning to do some Java programming, you will also 
need *JDK*.




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