Re: Where is float figure* in tufte-book?

[Nikos Alexandris]

John Kane:

> How long is the caption? I have tried a figure with an 84 word caption and
> it looks okay to me.  See attached pdf.

I am trying to visualise it.  Will report back once I have it.  For now,
I copy the figure* environment, or check it manually (Span columns).
It works and it's ok like that.

Maybe I ask for too much! Ideally, in a Tufte Book document with many full 
page-width
figures, it'll be nice to avoid the "Right click > Settings > Span
columns", or even the Copy-Paste action. Just a (custom) figure* float?

Thanks, Nikos


> It may be that very long captions such as one sees in some medical (and
> biology?) journals are just too long for a Tufte approach?

Re: Where is float figure* in tufte-book?

[John Kane]

How long is the caption? I have tried a figure with an 84 word caption and
it looks okay to me.  See attached pdf.

It may be that very long captions such as one sees in some medical (and
biology?) journals are just too long for a Tufte approach?

On 24 October 2015 at 20:37, Nikos Alexandris 
wrote:

> Nikos Alexandris:
>
> > > Dear Tufte-LaTeX users,
>
> > > the example file "tufte-book.lyx" contains an example of the "float:
> > > Figure*", a full-width figure box.  I can't trace this anywhere in the
> > > (Insert) menus.
>
> > > Using LyX Version 2.1.4.  Any help highly appreciated.
>
> John Kane:
>
> > By my reading of the example it is just
> > Insert > Float > Figure, the only difference being where the caption is
> > placed.
>
> Exactly. A long caption will not (at least, it does not do for me) fit
> nicely.
>
> Nikos
>



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Re: Where is float figure* in tufte-book?

[Nikos Alexandris]

Sorry, that msg was meant to hit the list too!

Nikos

* Nikos Alexandris  [2015-10-25 01:12:11 +0300]:

> 
> Nikos Alexandris:
>  
> > > Dear Tufte-LaTeX users,
> > > 
> > > the example file "tufte-book.lyx" contains an example of the "float:
> > > Figure*", a full-width figure box.  I can't trace this anywhere in the
> > > (Insert) menus.
> > > 
> > > Using LyX Version 2.1.4.  Any help highly appreciated.
> 
> Charlie:
> 
> > Not certain this is the answer because I haven't tried it. But in ERT:
> > 
> > \begin{fullwidth}
> > 
> > And between these two ERT commands place your full page float
> > 
> > \end{fullwidth}
> > 
> > Maybe that will work?
> 
> Thank you.  Not exactly. There is some problem with the caption.  I've
> tested it by using the example file.  Below the *existing* "float:
> Figure*" example, I used the "fullwidth" environment and the same
> content (as in the existing example).  It's not quite the same.
> 
> I can use an ERT for "\begin{figure*}".  But, it's not the same.  Where
> does the example box come from in LyX, I wonder!?
> 
> Thank you, Nikos

Re: Where is float figure* in tufte-book?

[Nikos Alexandris]

Nikos Alexandris:

> > > > Dear Tufte-LaTeX users,
> > > > 
> > > > the example file "tufte-book.lyx" contains an example of the
> > > > "float: Figure*", a full-width figure box.  I can't trace this
> > > > anywhere in the (Insert) menus.
> > > > 
> > > > Using LyX Version 2.1.4.  Any help highly appreciated.

The "figure" becomes "figure*" by selecting the "Span columns" option in
the LyX: float dialog (Right click on "float: Figure" > Settings > Span
columns).

A "custom" float may be defined to instruct the \begin{figure*} command
directly as per the following:

--->%--
Float
Typefigure*
GuiName Figure*
Placement   p
Extension   lof
NumberWithinnone
Style   plain
ListName"List of Figures"
ListCommand listoffigures
IsPredefined true
UsesFloatPkg false
End
--%<---


In the "Customization" document, in "5.3.8 Floats" it is stated:

Type [string=””] The “type” of the new class of floats, like program or
algorithm. After the appropriate \newfloat, commands such as \begin{program} or
\end{algorithm*} will be available.  So, the above looks like a "duplication" 
(?).


So, after using the custom "figure*" float (which does work!), it is still 
possible to select "Span columns" (which is NOT pre-selected). Another star is 
added and the float becomes "figure**".


On the Span columns, the "Embedded Objects" manual states:

The option Span columns is only useful for two-column documents: If you select
it, the float will span both columns on the page instead of being confined to
just one.


How can we put all this info together and have a clean "Figure*" float for 
tufte-book?  Perhaps reword the "is only useful for two-column documents" 
sentence as well (?).

Thank you, Nikos

Re: Where is float figure* in tufte-book?

[Nikos Alexandris]

Nikos Alexandris:

> > Dear Tufte-LaTeX users,

> > the example file "tufte-book.lyx" contains an example of the "float:
> > Figure*", a full-width figure box.  I can't trace this anywhere in the
> > (Insert) menus.

> > Using LyX Version 2.1.4.  Any help highly appreciated.

John Kane:

> By my reading of the example it is just
> Insert > Float > Figure, the only difference being where the caption is
> placed.

Exactly. A long caption will not (at least, it does not do for me) fit
nicely.

Nikos

Re: Where is float figure* in tufte-book?

[Charlie]

  On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 01:12:11 +0300 Nikos mentioned this: 
Re: Where is float figure* in tufte-book?. 

> 
> Nikos Alexandris:
>  
> > > Dear Tufte-LaTeX users,
> > > 
> > > the example file "tufte-book.lyx" contains an example of the
> > > "float: Figure*", a full-width figure box.  I can't trace this
> > > anywhere in the (Insert) menus.
> > > 
> > > Using LyX Version 2.1.4.  Any help highly appreciated.
> 
> Charlie:
> 
> > Not certain this is the answer because I haven't tried it. But in
> > ERT:
> > 
> > \begin{fullwidth}
> > 
> > And between these two ERT commands place your full page float
> > 
> > \end{fullwidth}
> > 
> > Maybe that will work?
> 
> Thank you.  Not exactly. There is some problem with the caption.  I've
> tested it by using the example file.  Below the *existing* "float:
> Figure*" example, I used the "fullwidth" environment and the same
> content (as in the existing example).  It's not quite the same.
> 
> I can use an ERT for "\begin{figure*}".  But, it's not the same.
> Where does the example box come from in LyX, I wonder!?
> 
> Thank you, Nikos


  From my keyboard:

   Hello Nikos,

I just checked and I'm using LyX Version 2.1.3 so it will be different
anyway.

Sorry for the noise.

Charlie


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Re: Where is float figure* in tufte-book?

[John Kane]

By my reading of the example it is just
Insert > Float > Figure, the only difference being where the caption is
placed.

On 24 October 2015 at 17:41, Nikos Alexandris 
wrote:

> Dear Tufte-LaTeX users,
>
> the example file "tufte-book.lyx" contains an example of the "float:
> Figure*", a full-width figure box.  I can't trace this anywhere in the
> (Insert) menus.
>
> Using LyX Version 2.1.4.  Any help highly appreciated.
>
> Nikos
>



-- 
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada

Re: Where is float figure* in tufte-book?

[Charlie]

On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 00:41:20 +0300
Nikos Alexandris  wrote:

> Dear Tufte-LaTeX users,
> 
> the example file "tufte-book.lyx" contains an example of the "float:
> Figure*", a full-width figure box.  I can't trace this anywhere in the
> (Insert) menus.
> 
> Using LyX Version 2.1.4.  Any help highly appreciated.
> 
> Nikos

Not certain this is the answer because I haven't tried it. But in ERT:

\begin{fullwidth}

And between these two ERT commands place your full page float

\end{fullwidth}

Maybe that will work?

Charlie

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