Re: blindtext, unicode-math, and babel won't play nice because of setmathfont
Alas, not [auto]...at least, not in LyX 2.0.8. Other settings were already as you specified. It doesn't throw an error, but the language isn't being set to english, so blindtext is outputting lorem ipsum, not english and math as it should. attempt at quasi-MWE and pdf output attached. Note absence of math, though \setmathfont is working now. Actually, ntitai, I tried this originally...before putting \usepackage[english]{babel} (as the blintext manual directs) in the language custom area (which now works), and that's where I came in...the circle is complete. hakunamatata. david PS I haven't updated to LyX 2.1 yet...no, I'll confess: I mean I did update, but got errors with my files (apparently others too...); I rolled back and was going to try again, but as I was cleaning up/backing up the files I needed, got snagged in this blindtext problem...you caught me :-) On Sat, 10 May 2014 17:02:11 +0900, Guenter Milde wrote: On 2014-05-10, asllearner wrote: This I knew not. But, you are quite correct, it works charmingly. (specifically, in the language package custom area:\usepackage{polyglossia}, and in preamble: \setdefaultlanguage{english} ) Then, you can also do this a more "LyXish" way: * Document>Settings>Fonts [x] use non-TeX fonts * Document>Settings>Language language-package [auto] (or polyglossia) * Document>Settings>Language English Günter -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ blindtext polyglossia test.lyx Description: Binary data blindtext_polyglossia_test.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: blindtext, unicode-math, and babel won't play nice because of setmathfont
On 2014-05-10, asllearner wrote: > This I knew not. But, you are quite correct, it works charmingly. > (specifically, in the language package custom > area:\usepackage{polyglossia}, and in preamble: > \setdefaultlanguage{english} ) Then, you can also do this a more "LyXish" way: * Document>Settings>Fonts [x] use non-TeX fonts * Document>Settings>Language language-package [auto] (or polyglossia) * Document>Settings>Language English Günter
Re: blindtext, unicode-math, and babel won't play nice because of setmathfont
This I knew not. But, you are quite correct, it works charmingly. (specifically, in the language package custom area:\usepackage{polyglossia}, and in preamble: \setdefaultlanguage{english} ) On Fri, 09 May 2014 17:24:33 +0900, Guenter Milde wrote: On 2014-05-05, asllearner wrote: I am trying to use a font for my main font, and also for math latin and greek characters, while keeping the rest as is. At the same time, I want to use blindtext. blindtext only allows \blindmathtrue if the language has been set to english: http://texblog.org/2011/02/26/generating-dummy-textblindtext-with-latex-for-testing/ This I believe I have to do via the language package custom area in the document preferences, however using \usepackage[english]{babel} breaks unicode-math. Is the use of babel mandated by "blindtext"? Normally, you would use "polyglossia" with XeTeX/LuaTeX and Unicode fonts. Günter -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: blindtext, unicode-math, and babel won't play nice because of setmathfont
On 2014-05-05, asllearner wrote: > I am trying to use a font for my main font, and also for math latin and > greek characters, while keeping the rest as is. > At the same time, I want to use blindtext. > blindtext only allows \blindmathtrue if the language has been set to > english: > http://texblog.org/2011/02/26/generating-dummy-textblindtext-with-latex-for-testing/ > This I believe I have to do via the language package custom area in the > document preferences, however using > \usepackage[english]{babel} > breaks unicode-math. Is the use of babel mandated by "blindtext"? Normally, you would use "polyglossia" with XeTeX/LuaTeX and Unicode fonts. Günter
Re: blindtext, unicode-math, and babel won't play nice because of setmathfont
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 1:16 AM, asllearner wrote: > Answer found. As predicted, the problem is a unicode-math problem, not LyX. > Full details to be found at > http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/175765/blindtext-unicode-math-and-babel-wont-play-nice-because-of-setmathfont-in-ly. > Thanks to all... Thanks for reporting back with the solution! Scott
Re: blindtext, unicode-math, and babel won't play nice because of setmathfont
Answer found. As predicted, the problem is a unicode-math problem, not LyX. Full details to be found at http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/175765/blindtext-unicode-math-and-babel-wont-play-nice-because-of-setmathfont-in-ly. Thanks to all... On Thu, 08 May 2014 17:49:58 +0900, asllearner wrote: Thank you Scott and Richard for the pointers (helping me help people help me). I did create a tex/texshop quasi-MWE, so this is not a LyX problem. In any event, I have attached a LyX quasi-MWE and error output log, in the off chance someone here does have any ideas or can point me in the right direction. I am going to pore over the unicode-math manual next and see if I find anything there. Ultimately, this nothing mission critical though...there is always lipsum... David On Thu, 08 May 2014 11:54:19 +0900, Richard Heck wrote: On 05/07/2014 09:28 PM, asllearner wrote: Yes, I was just about to add that. Thanks for the redirection. I am aware it is quite likely the problem is more "user error" and not an actual problem in the packages or in LyX. I have done what I can to refer to the manuals and previous posts, but hadn't found anything about this situation in particular. I posted here first since my suspicion was that I wasn't asking LyX properly to do what I wanted. I've had problems before with the fact that LyX sets up babel and hyperref before the preamble kicks in. Also, in the end my goal(hope) is to have all these work in LyX with the actual document I am trying to produce, even if it is possible to get the packages to work together in TeX. At ths point my best guess is the problem is with how I am using unicode... It's possible. Posting a "minimal example" will help people help you. Richard On Thu, 08 May 2014 05:52:18 +0900, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Richard Heck wrote: This really looks like a LaTeX question, not a LyX question. Try some LaTeX forum, or comp.text.tex. For archival purposes, he posted here: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/175765/blindtext-unicode-math-and-babel-wont-play-nice-because-of-setmathfont-in-ly Scott -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: blindtext, unicode-math, and babel won't play nice because of setmathfont
On 05/07/2014 09:28 PM, asllearner wrote: Yes, I was just about to add that. Thanks for the redirection. I am aware it is quite likely the problem is more "user error" and not an actual problem in the packages or in LyX. I have done what I can to refer to the manuals and previous posts, but hadn't found anything about this situation in particular. I posted here first since my suspicion was that I wasn't asking LyX properly to do what I wanted. I've had problems before with the fact that LyX sets up babel and hyperref before the preamble kicks in. Also, in the end my goal(hope) is to have all these work in LyX with the actual document I am trying to produce, even if it is possible to get the packages to work together in TeX. At ths point my best guess is the problem is with how I am using unicode... It's possible. Posting a "minimal example" will help people help you. Richard On Thu, 08 May 2014 05:52:18 +0900, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Richard Heck wrote: This really looks like a LaTeX question, not a LyX question. Try some LaTeX forum, or comp.text.tex. For archival purposes, he posted here: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/175765/blindtext-unicode-math-and-babel-wont-play-nice-because-of-setmathfont-in-ly Scott
Re: blindtext, unicode-math, and babel won't play nice because of setmathfont
Yes, I was just about to add that. Thanks for the redirection. I am aware it is quite likely the problem is more "user error" and not an actual problem in the packages or in LyX. I have done what I can to refer to the manuals and previous posts, but hadn't found anything about this situation in particular. I posted here first since my suspicion was that I wasn't asking LyX properly to do what I wanted. I've had problems before with the fact that LyX sets up babel and hyperref before the preamble kicks in. Also, in the end my goal(hope) is to have all these work in LyX with the actual document I am trying to produce, even if it is possible to get the packages to work together in TeX. At ths point my best guess is the problem is with how I am using unicode... On Thu, 08 May 2014 05:52:18 +0900, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Richard Heck wrote: This really looks like a LaTeX question, not a LyX question. Try some LaTeX forum, or comp.text.tex. For archival purposes, he posted here: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/175765/blindtext-unicode-math-and-babel-wont-play-nice-because-of-setmathfont-in-ly Scott
Re: blindtext, unicode-math, and babel won't play nice because of setmathfont
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Richard Heck wrote: > > This really looks like a LaTeX question, not a LyX question. Try some LaTeX > forum, or comp.text.tex. For archival purposes, he posted here: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/175765/blindtext-unicode-math-and-babel-wont-play-nice-because-of-setmathfont-in-ly Scott
Re: blindtext, unicode-math, and babel won't play nice because of setmathfont
This really looks like a LaTeX question, not a LyX question. Try some LaTeX forum, or comp.text.tex. Richard On 05/05/2014 11:08 AM, asllearner wrote: I am trying to use a font for my main font, and also for math latin and greek characters, while keeping the rest as is. At the same time, I want to use blindtext. blindtext only allows \blindmathtrue if the language has been set to english: http://texblog.org/2011/02/26/generating-dummy-textblindtext-with-latex-for-testing/ This I believe I have to do via the language package custom area in the document preferences, however using \usepackage[english]{babel} breaks unicode-math. I get ! Font \l_tmpb_font has only 8 fontdimen parameters. If I use the default language package, all works, except, as stated above, blindtext english/math. %This is in my preamble: \usepackage[vargreek-shape=unicode]{unicode-math} \setmathfont{Latin Modern Math} % this is obligatory or no math font will be set... %everything works to here. But this setmathfonts is causing the problem \setmathfont[range=\mathit/{latin, Latin}]{SNsanafonmaruP} % upper and lower case latin and numbers % any font will do \setmainfont[Mapping= tex-text]{SNsanafonmaruP} % not actually relevant \usepackage{blindtext} The font doesn't matter; I get the same behavior whatever font I use, even standard ones... (NB, this is heavily redacted from a larger set of uses of unicode-math for nefarious purposes, so this a best effort to produce a MWE for what seems to be the crux of the matter). PS apparently an incomplete version of this post got sent. please ignore.