Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
Am Mittwoch 29 Juli 2015, 12:06:45 schrieb Michael Berger:
BTW instead of writing Retrieved May 2015 from: into the pages field,
consider using biblatex's urldate field.
I can find no 'urldate field' in my biblatex application (KBibTeX). Do I
have to create one?
It should be in the Misc pane if you use the biblatex style of kbibtex.
But you can also use the other fields tab.
Additional tip: In order to get the German references broken/hyphenated
correctly, add the autolang=hyphen option to biblatex and use the LangID
field in the entries, e.g.
I created the field 'LangID' in the Other Fields tab of KBibTeX and it
appears in the entry's source as 'langid = {german}'.
Then I added 'autolang=hyphen' in the preamble like this:
\usepackage[style=alphabetic,natbib=true,backref=true,backend=biber,autolang
=hyphen]{biblatex}
What biblatex version? Autolang was introduced in biblatex 2.8. In older
versions, use babel=hyphen instead.
Jürgen
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
On 07/28/2015 03:32 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Dienstag 28 Juli 2015, 15:22:14 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:
The URLs break rather nicely here except for one (Nom10), which is however
difficult to break automatically. It gets significantly better if I put the
following commands in the preamble (these basically instruct LaTeX not to
run lines into the margins whatsoever):
\tolerance 1414
\hbadness 1414
\emergencystretch 1.5em
\hfuzz 0.3pt
\widowpenalty = 1
\vfuzz \hfuzz
\raggedbottom
Hello Jürgen,
The seven lines of above code work equally well for URLs and
veryveryverylongWords!
BTW instead of writing Retrieved May 2015 from: into the pages field,
consider using biblatex's urldate field.
I can find no 'urldate field' in my biblatex application (KBibTeX). Do I
have to create one?
Additional tip: In order to get the German references broken/hyphenated
correctly, add the autolang=hyphen option to biblatex and use the LangID
field in the entries, e.g.
I created the field 'LangID' in the Other Fields tab of KBibTeX and it
appears in the entry's source as 'langid = {german}'.
Then I added 'autolang=hyphen' in the preamble like this:
\usepackage[style=alphabetic,natbib=true,backref=true,backend=biber,autolang=hyphen]{biblatex}
but was rewarded package xkeyval Error: autolang undefined in families
'blx@opt@pre
But then, where else should I have added it?
Can you please help again?
Michael
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
On 07/28/2015 03:32 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Dienstag 28 Juli 2015, 15:22:14 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:
The URLs break rather nicely here except for one (Nom10), which is however
difficult to break automatically. It gets significantly better if I put the
following commands in the preamble (these basically instruct LaTeX not to
run lines into the margins whatsoever):
\tolerance 1414
\hbadness 1414
\emergencystretch 1.5em
\hfuzz 0.3pt
\widowpenalty = 1
\vfuzz \hfuzz
\raggedbottom
Hello Jürgen,
The seven lines of above code work equally well for URLs and
veryveryverylongWords!
BTW instead of writing "Retrieved May 2015 from:" into the pages field,
consider using biblatex's urldate field.
I can find no 'urldate field' in my biblatex application (KBibTeX). Do I
have to create one?
Additional tip: In order to get the German references broken/hyphenated
correctly, add the "autolang=hyphen" option to biblatex and use the LangID
field in the entries, e.g.
I created the field 'LangID' in the "Other Fields" tab of KBibTeX and it
appears in the entry's source as 'langid = {german}'.
Then I added 'autolang=hyphen' in the preamble like this:
\usepackage[style=alphabetic,natbib=true,backref=true,backend=biber,autolang=hyphen]{biblatex}
but was rewarded "package xkeyval Error: autolang undefined in families
'blx@opt@pre"
But then, where else should I have added it?
Can you please help again?
Michael
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
Am Mittwoch 29 Juli 2015, 12:06:45 schrieb Michael Berger:
> BTW instead of writing "Retrieved May 2015 from:" into the pages field,
> consider using biblatex's urldate field.
>
> I can find no 'urldate field' in my biblatex application (KBibTeX). Do I
> have to create one?
It should be in the "Misc" pane if you use the "biblatex" style of kbibtex.
But you can also use the "other fields" tab.
> Additional tip: In order to get the German references broken/hyphenated
> correctly, add the "autolang=hyphen" option to biblatex and use the LangID
> field in the entries, e.g.
>
> I created the field 'LangID' in the "Other Fields" tab of KBibTeX and it
> appears in the entry's source as 'langid = {german}'.
>
> Then I added 'autolang=hyphen' in the preamble like this:
>
> \usepackage[style=alphabetic,natbib=true,backref=true,backend=biber,autolang
> =hyphen]{biblatex}
What biblatex version? Autolang was introduced in biblatex 2.8. In older
versions, use "babel=hyphen" instead.
Jürgen
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
On 07/28/2015 08:19 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Montag 27 Juli 2015, 19:51:48 schrieb Michael Berger:
the response to my request so far is very poor with no clue in sight.
I take it that my switch to biblatex was too hasty and I am considering
to revert back to using bibtex.
Can you provide a small example file?
Jürgen
Michael
Ha! There you are, thanks!
Jürgen, I stripped down the attached LyX-file to the minimum I could.
You will probably need the bibtex-file too.
Hope you have all you need now and thanks in advance,
Cheers
Michael
MaHome_url_biblatex.lyx
Description: application/lyx
@inproceedings{Nom10,
abstract = {bare passive},
author = {Hiroki Nomoto},
booktitle = {{Making sense of the optionality of voice marking in Malay / Indonesian.}},
pages = {Talk held at the Workshop on Indonesian--type Voice Systems from July 17--18, 2010. Retrieved May 2015 from:},
url = {http://repository.tufs.ac.jp/bitstream/10108/64497/1/Proceedings_Indonesiatype04.pdf},
year = {2010}
}
@inproceedings{Nom08,
abstract = {related to modality},
author = {Hiroki Nomoto},
booktitle = {{A unified analysis of funny control.}},
pages = {Talk held at the ISML 12 in Leiden from June 26 to 27. Handout retrieved May 2015 from:},
url = {http://www.tufs.ac.jp/ts/personal/nomoto/ISMIL08_handout.pdf},
year = {2008}
}
@inproceedings{HeTi,
author = {Peter Cole \ Gabriela Hermon and Yanti {Timothy Mckinnon}},
booktitle = {{Voice in Malayic: The Development of Agent-demoting passives.}},
pages = {Talk held at the closing conference Diversity Linguistics at the MPI EVA on 3. May, 2015},
year = {(to appear)}
}
@book{Kan99,
author = {Vamarasi \ Marit Kana},
location = {Canberra},
publisher = {Pacific Linguistics},
title = {{Grammatical Relations in Bahasa Indonesia}},
year = {1999}
}
@book{Woh03,
author = {Jan Wohlgemuth},
location = {Berlin},
publisher = {Wei{\ss}ensee Verlag},
title = {{Das Diathesesystem der Bahasa Indonesia}},
year = {2003}
}
@book{Pot08,
author = {Maria Polinsky \ Eric Potsdam},
publisher = {Lingua 118 (10): 1617-1639},
title = {{The Syntax and Semanticsof Wanting in Indonesian.}},
year = {2008}
}
@inbook{Gil02,
author = {David Gil},
booktitle = {{The History and Typology of West Austronesian Voice Systems.}},
editor = {F. Wouk and M. Ross},
location = {Canberra},
pages = {241--283},
title = {{The prefixes in di- and n- Malay/Indonesian dialekts.}},
year = {2002}
}
@article{Chu76,
author = {Sandra Chung},
edition = {Subject and topic},
editor = {{Charles N. Li,}},
location = {New York},
note = {Subject and topic},
pages = {57--99},
publisher = {Academic Press},
title = {{On the subject of two passives in Indonesian.}},
year = {1976}
}
@article{Her98,
author = {Peter Cole \ Gabriela Hermon},
note = {Syntax 1 (3)},
pages = {221--258},
title = {{The Typology of wh-movement. Wh-questions in Malay.}},
year = {1998}
}
@inproceedings{Fort06:,
author = {Catherine R. Fortin},
booktitle = {{Reconciling meng- and NP-Movement in Indonesian}},
pages = {Talk held at the 32nd Annual Meeting of the Berkeley Linguistics Society. Handout retrieved June 2015 from:},
url = {http://sitemaker.umich.edu/fortinc/files/bls_2006_handout.pdf},
year = {2006}
}
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
Am Dienstag 28 Juli 2015, 15:22:14 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:
Am Dienstag 28 Juli 2015, 14:31:07 schrieb Michael Berger:
Ha! There you are, thanks!
Jürgen, I stripped down the attached LyX-file to the minimum I could.
You will probably need the bibtex-file too.
Hope you have all you need now and thanks in advance,
The URLs break rather nicely here except for one (Nom10), which is however
difficult to break automatically. It gets significantly better if I put the
following commands in the preamble (these basically instruct LaTeX not to
run lines into the margins whatsoever):
\tolerance 1414
\hbadness 1414
\emergencystretch 1.5em
\hfuzz 0.3pt
\widowpenalty = 1
\vfuzz \hfuzz
\raggedbottom
See attached PDF.
BTW instead of writing Retrieved May 2015 from: into the pages field,
consider using biblatex's urldate field.
Additional tip: In order to get the German references broken/hyphenated
correctly, add the autolang=hyphen option to biblatex and use the LangID
field in the entries, e.g.
@book{Woh03,
author = {Jan Wohlgemuth},
location = {Berlin},
publisher = {Wei{\ss}ensee Verlag},
title = {{Das Diathesesystem der Bahasa Indonesia}},
year = {2003},
LangID = {german}
}
Jürgen
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
Am Dienstag 28 Juli 2015, 14:31:07 schrieb Michael Berger: Ha! There you are, thanks! Jürgen, I stripped down the attached LyX-file to the minimum I could. You will probably need the bibtex-file too. Hope you have all you need now and thanks in advance, The URLs break rather nicely here except for one (Nom10), which is however difficult to break automatically. It gets significantly better if I put the following commands in the preamble (these basically instruct LaTeX not to run lines into the margins whatsoever): \tolerance 1414 \hbadness 1414 \emergencystretch 1.5em \hfuzz 0.3pt \widowpenalty = 1 \vfuzz \hfuzz \raggedbottom See attached PDF. BTW instead of writing Retrieved May 2015 from: into the pages field, consider using biblatex's urldate field. HTH Jürgen Cheers Michael MaHome_url_biblatex.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
On 07/28/2015 03:32 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Dienstag 28 Juli 2015, 15:22:14 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:
Am Dienstag 28 Juli 2015, 14:31:07 schrieb Michael Berger:
Ha! There you are, thanks!
Jürgen, I stripped down the attached LyX-file to the minimum I could.
You will probably need the bibtex-file too.
Hope you have all you need now and thanks in advance,
The URLs break rather nicely here except for one (Nom10), which is however
difficult to break automatically. It gets significantly better if I put the
following commands in the preamble (these basically instruct LaTeX not to
run lines into the margins whatsoever):
\tolerance 1414
\hbadness 1414
\emergencystretch 1.5em
\hfuzz 0.3pt
\widowpenalty = 1
\vfuzz \hfuzz
\raggedbottom
See attached PDF.
BTW instead of writing Retrieved May 2015 from: into the pages field,
consider using biblatex's urldate field.
Additional tip: In order to get the German references broken/hyphenated
correctly, add the autolang=hyphen option to biblatex and use the LangID
field in the entries, e.g.
@book{Woh03,
author = {Jan Wohlgemuth},
location = {Berlin},
publisher = {Wei{\ss}ensee Verlag},
title = {{Das Diathesesystem der Bahasa Indonesia}},
year = {2003},
LangID = {german}
}
Jürgen
Hi Jürgen,
thank you so much for sharing your vast knowledge and expertise with the
LyX community!
And I am looking forward to experience the number of new features
(especially in the linguistics) you have developed and to be implemented
in LyX version 2.2.x.
Hut ab!
Michael
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
Am Montag 27 Juli 2015, 19:51:48 schrieb Michael Berger: the response to my request so far is very poor with no clue in sight. I take it that my switch to biblatex was too hasty and I am considering to revert back to using bibtex. Can you provide a small example file? Jürgen Michael
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
Am Montag 27 Juli 2015, 19:51:48 schrieb Michael Berger: > the response to my request so far is very poor with no clue in sight. > I take it that my switch to biblatex was too hasty and I am considering > to revert back to using bibtex. Can you provide a small example file? Jürgen > Michael
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
On 07/28/2015 08:19 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Montag 27 Juli 2015, 19:51:48 schrieb Michael Berger:
the response to my request so far is very poor with no clue in sight.
I take it that my switch to biblatex was too hasty and I am considering
to revert back to using bibtex.
Can you provide a small example file?
Jürgen
Michael
Ha! There you are, thanks!
Jürgen, I stripped down the attached LyX-file to the minimum I could.
You will probably need the bibtex-file too.
Hope you have all you need now and thanks in advance,
Cheers
Michael
MaHome_url_biblatex.lyx
Description: application/lyx
@inproceedings{Nom10,
abstract = {bare passive},
author = {Hiroki Nomoto},
booktitle = {{Making sense of the optionality of voice marking in Malay / Indonesian.}},
pages = {Talk held at the Workshop on Indonesian--type Voice Systems from July 17--18, 2010. Retrieved May 2015 from:},
url = {http://repository.tufs.ac.jp/bitstream/10108/64497/1/Proceedings_Indonesiatype04.pdf},
year = {2010}
}
@inproceedings{Nom08,
abstract = {related to modality},
author = {Hiroki Nomoto},
booktitle = {{A unified analysis of funny control.}},
pages = {Talk held at the ISML 12 in Leiden from June 26 to 27. Handout retrieved May 2015 from:},
url = {http://www.tufs.ac.jp/ts/personal/nomoto/ISMIL08_handout.pdf},
year = {2008}
}
@inproceedings{HeTi,
author = {Peter Cole \& Gabriela Hermon and Yanti {Timothy Mckinnon}},
booktitle = {{Voice in Malayic: The Development of Agent-demoting passives.}},
pages = {Talk held at the closing conference Diversity Linguistics at the MPI EVA on 3. May, 2015},
year = {(to appear)}
}
@book{Kan99,
author = {Vamarasi \& Marit Kana},
location = {Canberra},
publisher = {Pacific Linguistics},
title = {{Grammatical Relations in Bahasa Indonesia}},
year = {1999}
}
@book{Woh03,
author = {Jan Wohlgemuth},
location = {Berlin},
publisher = {Wei{\ss}ensee Verlag},
title = {{Das Diathesesystem der Bahasa Indonesia}},
year = {2003}
}
@book{Pot08,
author = {Maria Polinsky \& Eric Potsdam},
publisher = {Lingua 118 (10): 1617-1639},
title = {{The Syntax and Semanticsof Wanting in Indonesian.}},
year = {2008}
}
@inbook{Gil02,
author = {David Gil},
booktitle = {{The History and Typology of West Austronesian Voice Systems.}},
editor = {F. Wouk and M. Ross},
location = {Canberra},
pages = {241--283},
title = {{The prefixes in di- and n- Malay/Indonesian dialekts.}},
year = {2002}
}
@article{Chu76,
author = {Sandra Chung},
edition = {Subject and topic},
editor = {{Charles N. Li,}},
location = {New York},
note = {Subject and topic},
pages = {57--99},
publisher = {Academic Press},
title = {{On the subject of two passives in Indonesian.}},
year = {1976}
}
@article{Her98,
author = {Peter Cole \& Gabriela Hermon},
note = {Syntax 1 (3)},
pages = {221--258},
title = {{The Typology of wh-movement. Wh-questions in Malay.}},
year = {1998}
}
@inproceedings{Fort06:,
author = {Catherine R. Fortin},
booktitle = {{Reconciling meng- and NP-Movement in Indonesian}},
pages = {Talk held at the 32nd Annual Meeting of the Berkeley Linguistics Society. Handout retrieved June 2015 from:},
url = {http://sitemaker.umich.edu/fortinc/files/bls_2006_handout.pdf},
year = {2006}
}
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
Am Dienstag 28 Juli 2015, 14:31:07 schrieb Michael Berger: > Ha! There you are, thanks! > Jürgen, I stripped down the attached LyX-file to the minimum I could. > You will probably need the bibtex-file too. > Hope you have all you need now and thanks in advance, The URLs break rather nicely here except for one (Nom10), which is however difficult to break automatically. It gets significantly better if I put the following commands in the preamble (these basically instruct LaTeX not to run lines into the margins whatsoever): \tolerance 1414 \hbadness 1414 \emergencystretch 1.5em \hfuzz 0.3pt \widowpenalty = 1 \vfuzz \hfuzz \raggedbottom See attached PDF. BTW instead of writing "Retrieved May 2015 from:" into the pages field, consider using biblatex's urldate field. HTH Jürgen > Cheers > Michael MaHome_url_biblatex.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
Am Dienstag 28 Juli 2015, 15:22:14 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:
> Am Dienstag 28 Juli 2015, 14:31:07 schrieb Michael Berger:
> > Ha! There you are, thanks!
> > Jürgen, I stripped down the attached LyX-file to the minimum I could.
> > You will probably need the bibtex-file too.
> > Hope you have all you need now and thanks in advance,
>
> The URLs break rather nicely here except for one (Nom10), which is however
> difficult to break automatically. It gets significantly better if I put the
> following commands in the preamble (these basically instruct LaTeX not to
> run lines into the margins whatsoever):
>
> \tolerance 1414
> \hbadness 1414
> \emergencystretch 1.5em
> \hfuzz 0.3pt
> \widowpenalty = 1
> \vfuzz \hfuzz
> \raggedbottom
>
> See attached PDF.
>
> BTW instead of writing "Retrieved May 2015 from:" into the pages field,
> consider using biblatex's urldate field.
Additional tip: In order to get the German references broken/hyphenated
correctly, add the "autolang=hyphen" option to biblatex and use the LangID
field in the entries, e.g.
@book{Woh03,
author = {Jan Wohlgemuth},
location = {Berlin},
publisher = {Wei{\ss}ensee Verlag},
title = {{Das Diathesesystem der Bahasa Indonesia}},
year = {2003},
LangID = {german}
}
Jürgen
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
On 07/28/2015 03:32 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Dienstag 28 Juli 2015, 15:22:14 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:
Am Dienstag 28 Juli 2015, 14:31:07 schrieb Michael Berger:
Ha! There you are, thanks!
Jürgen, I stripped down the attached LyX-file to the minimum I could.
You will probably need the bibtex-file too.
Hope you have all you need now and thanks in advance,
The URLs break rather nicely here except for one (Nom10), which is however
difficult to break automatically. It gets significantly better if I put the
following commands in the preamble (these basically instruct LaTeX not to
run lines into the margins whatsoever):
\tolerance 1414
\hbadness 1414
\emergencystretch 1.5em
\hfuzz 0.3pt
\widowpenalty = 1
\vfuzz \hfuzz
\raggedbottom
See attached PDF.
BTW instead of writing "Retrieved May 2015 from:" into the pages field,
consider using biblatex's urldate field.
Additional tip: In order to get the German references broken/hyphenated
correctly, add the "autolang=hyphen" option to biblatex and use the LangID
field in the entries, e.g.
@book{Woh03,
author = {Jan Wohlgemuth},
location = {Berlin},
publisher = {Wei{\ss}ensee Verlag},
title = {{Das Diathesesystem der Bahasa Indonesia}},
year = {2003},
LangID = {german}
}
Jürgen
Hi Jürgen,
thank you so much for sharing your vast knowledge and expertise with the
LyX community!
And I am looking forward to experience the number of new features
(especially in the linguistics) you have developed and to be implemented
in LyX version 2.2.x.
Hut ab!
Michael
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
Michael Berger wrote: Needles to say that I have studied all issue related comments I could find. Is somebody out there with a resolution? Biblatex uses the package url to format and print urls. In the file biblatex.def, you will find options made by biblatex to break long urls. The code is rather complex and I don't really understand it. Maybe by changing some parameters you can achieve what you want. Charles
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
On 07/27/2015 01:51 PM, Michael Berger wrote: On 07/27/2015 04:12 PM, Charles de Miramon wrote: Michael Berger wrote: Needles to say that I have studied all issue related comments I could find. Is somebody out there with a resolution? Biblatex uses the package url to format and print urls. In the file biblatex.def, you will find options made by biblatex to break long urls. The code is rather complex and I don't really understand it. Maybe by changing some parameters you can achieve what you want. Charles Thanks Charles, the response to my request so far is very poor with no clue in sight. I take it that my switch to biblatex was too hasty and I am considering to revert back to using bibtex. Have you tried asking on comp.text.tex? This is really a LaTeX issue, not a LyX issue, and while there are some people here who know a lot about LaTeX, there are a lot more there. Richard
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
On 07/27/2015 04:12 PM, Charles de Miramon wrote: Michael Berger wrote: Needles to say that I have studied all issue related comments I could find. Is somebody out there with a resolution? Biblatex uses the package url to format and print urls. In the file biblatex.def, you will find options made by biblatex to break long urls. The code is rather complex and I don't really understand it. Maybe by changing some parameters you can achieve what you want. Charles Thanks Charles, the response to my request so far is very poor with no clue in sight. I take it that my switch to biblatex was too hasty and I am considering to revert back to using bibtex. Michael
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
Michael Berger wrote: > Needles to say that I have studied all issue related comments I could > find. Is somebody out there with a resolution? > Biblatex uses the package url to format and print urls. In the file biblatex.def, you will find options made by biblatex to break long urls. The code is rather complex and I don't really understand it. Maybe by changing some parameters you can achieve what you want. Charles
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
On 07/27/2015 04:12 PM, Charles de Miramon wrote: Michael Berger wrote: Needles to say that I have studied all issue related comments I could find. Is somebody out there with a resolution? Biblatex uses the package url to format and print urls. In the file biblatex.def, you will find options made by biblatex to break long urls. The code is rather complex and I don't really understand it. Maybe by changing some parameters you can achieve what you want. Charles Thanks Charles, the response to my request so far is very poor with no clue in sight. I take it that my switch to biblatex was too hasty and I am considering to revert back to using bibtex. Michael
Re: no URL line-breaks in the reference list
On 07/27/2015 01:51 PM, Michael Berger wrote: On 07/27/2015 04:12 PM, Charles de Miramon wrote: Michael Berger wrote: Needles to say that I have studied all issue related comments I could find. Is somebody out there with a resolution? Biblatex uses the package url to format and print urls. In the file biblatex.def, you will find options made by biblatex to break long urls. The code is rather complex and I don't really understand it. Maybe by changing some parameters you can achieve what you want. Charles Thanks Charles, the response to my request so far is very poor with no clue in sight. I take it that my switch to biblatex was too hasty and I am considering to revert back to using bibtex. Have you tried asking on comp.text.tex? This is really a LaTeX issue, not a LyX issue, and while there are some people here who know a lot about LaTeX, there are a lot more there. Richard
