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> *From:* M100 on behalf of Jesus R <
> sonor...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 13, 2018 7:28 PM
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> *Subject:* [M100] program library in WAV format
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Subject: [M100] program library in WAV format
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Jesus R
Of some interest might be the utilities WAV2CAS and CAS2WAV, they are
available here:
http://knut.one/wav2cas.htm
Here is a nice write up of it in use with a Model 200:
I have started the process for converting the "Programming" software to WAY
format. I'm picking these genres at random so if there are any request
please let me know.
Also, I have been sent some software which I could add to the list.
However, I'm having a touch time since they are scattered in
John, agree. No worries...I'll drop another post next to move things in the
right direction.
Jesus R
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Somehow this looks like a new thread to me so I don't know how we got here.
I'm ok with threads staying on topic or asking that others keep it on
topic. I'm also ok with threads veering
Somehow this looks like a new thread to me so I don't know how we got here.
I'm ok with threads staying on topic or asking that others keep it on
topic. I'm also ok with threads veering off the original topic. It happens.
People tend to self correct.
Just do so politely please.
No hard and fast
Do we have a 2nd admin on this list now besides John?
Here's my request as a fellow mere user: "Please don't tell other people
what to do."
You don't like topic drift? I don't like self-appointed police doing a job
that doesn't need doing.
It was just a request? So is mine.
Who am I to say any
Please help keep this thread on topic and take spin off discussions to a
new thread.
Thank You,
Jesus R
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> I just don't have $100 to spare just now.
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> God Bless,
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Stein"
> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> Sent: Wednesday,
" So it's like a PDD server but running its own protocol, not PDD or
Drivewire. "
He loves standards so much he invented his own ;-)
-- John.
From: Greg Swallow Date:
10/3/18 7:26 AM (GMT-07:00) To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100]
program library in WAV format
Has anyone tried, or looked into, something like this device for the CoCo?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/TRS80-CoCo-Hard-Drive-Emulation-128MB-20x-faster-than-tape
,
GregS <><
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Stein"
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 4:30:15 AM
Subject: Re: [M100] program library in WAV format
FWIW, way back when we were exploring this whole issue of using the cassette
port to load/save audi
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Adolph
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [M100] program library in WAV format
Interesting to note - if you cross wire two M100s and try to CSAVE on one, and
CLOAD on the other... it wont work. Not enough
For what it’s worth I just tried one at random (alien.ba) and it
worked perfectly from my iPad to my T102. I didn’t have the volume up
high enough the first try, but I turned it up to max and it worked
fine on round 2.
I have an android phone I acquired just to run mcomm on, but haven’t
gotten
John, that is very cool!
Jesus R
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Web-based M100 emulator I wrote. Runs on PCs w/ Chrome, cell phones,
tablets.
https://bitchin100.com/CloudT/
If you right click you can poke around in the code. I don't minify it so
it's easy to browse. All the stuff after the
comment I wrote.
Files are
Hooking this setup to my AP would be a mess:) It’s odd that you are
having the exact opposite experience compared to mine. My iPhone, my
Mac, my PC, and my iPad all work. I just transferred a random program
with a standard cable and used it on my T100.
If you look at the capture directly from the
Jesus, agreed, great idea. I think you should look at the waveforms you
captured though. They look distorted, relative to M100 output signals.
I think this is tricky enough that in order for it to be truly useful, the
details need to get ironed out.
As I said, I have tried your files with 2
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 1:38 PM Jesus R wrote:
> What is CloudT?
>
>
Web-based M100 emulator I wrote. Runs on PCs w/ Chrome, cell phones,
tablets.
https://bitchin100.com/CloudT/
If you right click you can poke around in the code. I don't minify it so
it's easy to browse. All the stuff after the
I'm not using a custom cable and it's working fine here. These files are
already amplified digitally by +25db.
Link to WAV archive: www.sonore.us/m100
Jesus R
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initiate time travel device.
you got me
Thu 8/3/2017, 4:32 AM
The m100 can receive files via the cassette port from almost
What is CloudT?
Link to WAV archive: www.sonore.us/m100
Jesus R
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Yeah it's definitely a coding task.
Well if I find some time I could add a audio file export feature to CloudT.
CloudT already supports accessing http files and Google Drive, so I have
code for getting files into CloudT.
My goals are simple...have access to the files on the go via my computer or
phone. The files are archived in lossless WAV and anyone that wants to
convert them to lossy MP3 is welcome to. I'm not going to apply additional
filtering and in my use case I'm not worried about the files size.
Link to
rv.ms/u/s!AgRHXuUu57CegiAUJRUi6v8mw7bm
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> --
> *From:* M100 on behalf of Stephen
> Adolph
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 30, 2018 11:54 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] program library in WAV format
>
> I would pre
nt: Sunday, September 30, 2018 11:54 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] program library in WAV format
I would prefer to use an MP3 player, so the browser approach is not the best.
I'll just grab what I want. thanks.
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 3:41 PM Jesus R
mailto:sonor...@gmail.com>>
That is for the good Peter! Will Have to try that out.
On Monday, October 1, 2018, Peter Noeth wrote:
> I have made .WAV recordings of my programs before, for the purpose of
> "double backup" when traveling with my M100 on commercial airline flights.
> I carried my CTR-81 and the programs I
I have made .WAV recordings of my programs before, for the purpose of
"double backup" when traveling with my M100 on commercial airline flights.
I carried my CTR-81 and the programs I needed on tape as well as being
loaded in memory. This was in the days when the airline security x-ray
machines
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 4:21 PM Jesus R wrote:
> This is actually something I looked into with a friend. I even tested the
> CAS2WAV application on the off chance that it could work, but I could not
> get it to work. I'm not a coder so someone else would have to take up the
> effort to modify
I played a bit with Audacity, and I have a couple of comments, wrt settings.
1) 8 bit vs 16 bit. If like me you are interested in the actual files,
and size matters, then consider saving the file in 8bit format. this saves
1/2 the data.
2) filtering. Applying a low pass filter at ~18 kHz as
Just did a bit of playing around with Audacity. I think you nailed it.
Awesome. I think the 2 big differences from what I was doing (1)
amplifying the output to maximum of almost 2Vpp and (2) using .WAV.
my little 128MB MP3 player has a new life as a bootstrap / portable read
only storage.
I would prefer to use an MP3 player, so the browser approach is not the
best. I'll just grab what I want. thanks.
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 3:41 PM Jesus R wrote:
> The idea is to play the file you need directly into the unit. The browser
> plays the file on click to no need to drag and drop
This is interesting. Someone already did this for the TRS-80 PC-2.
http://pocket.free.fr/html/soft/soft_e.html
Software that will convert a WAV to the BASIC source and back again.
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 5:44 PM John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
>
> For those interested in further discussion of getting
This is actually something I looked into with a friend. I even tested the
CAS2WAV application on the off chance that it could work, but I could not
get it to work. I'm not a coder so someone else would have to take up the
effort to modify it. In the meantime I'll continue with the slo-mo scheme:)
What I'm thinking is, the Model 100 cassette file format is documented, I
think in the service manual.
So you could go straight from a .DO, .CO or tokenized .BA to a WAV file
(or FLACC or even MP3) with the right code.
Seems like a weekend project. Just not mine, my weekends seem to keep
getting
That would be the ideal archival & reference format, cas files paired with
open source (ie future-proof, lost-proof, taken-away-proof,
platform-support-proof) reference code encode and decode.
Then, for users to conveniently play a sound file right from a browser into
a m100, a web site that
For those interested in further discussion of getting Audacity to work, we
spent some time in October 5-6 of 2013 coming up with ways to make reliable
recordings.
http://lists.bitchin100.com/private.cgi/m100-bitchin100.com/2013-October/date.html#36917
"test MP3 encoded teeny.ba for M100
It's working fine here:) If you use the recoding as is it will be to low to
be useful. This is why I increase the amplitude in software by +25db. This
produces playback of about -6db and free of clipping and the unit finds and
loads data effortlessly without the use of an inline amplifier. Phones,
The idea is to play the file you need directly into the unit. The browser
plays the file on click to no need to drag and drop anything.
MP3's filter out certain frequencies and I rather not worry if its okay in
all cases.
--
hi, can we download all the files from a simple directory,
I remember it working with audacity once I fiddled with the settings. I
didn't have to do any post processing though. Should be some posts to the
list about it.
And we were using mp3, I think.
-- John.
hi, can we download all the files from a simple directory, rather than a
spreadsheet? It would be a lot faster! drag and drop...
Sorry if you answered this already but how important was using .WAV file vs
.MP3?
thanks
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 3:20 PM Jesus R wrote:
> Team, the programs in
I forgot to mention in step 3 that once I have the file adjusted for
amplitude I just export the file to WAV saving the album and genre tags as
prompted. I then got o File and select Close and do not save the session
when prompted.
Jesus R
I must say I am surprised that i have not heard people getting unrepeatable
results using .WAV audacity files.
Where I left this off myself, in my own efforts, is that the typical 1Vpp
signal swing generated by most modern earbud type audio devices (phones,
mp3 players etc) is not sufficient to
Your welcome and I'm glad it's working out. The system is dialed in now and
I'm happy to share the setup.
There are several tasks and I'll explain each below:
1. Download the files and rename them on my computer - I'm not really sure
this step is needed, but it doesn't take up much time since I'm
Thanks for setting this up! I’ve downloaded several games and a couple of
utilities through my iPhone, with no problem. A simple joy from the user’s
perspective, but I realize it represents a lot of work behind the scenes.
Perhaps I missed it in a prior part of the thread, but it would be great
Team, the programs in the Text tab are up.
new shorter link to archive:www.sonore.us/m100
Jesus R
Hello, today I upload new versions of the WAV files which have been altered
with Audacity to increase their amplitude. This allows the units to cload
the files better from a computer and cell phone.
new shorter link to archive:
www.sonore.us/m100
original link to archive:
Team, the programs in the Games, Drives, and Utilities tab are up.
Jesus R
Team, the files in the Drives tab are up.
Jesus R
Has anyone put together all of the WAV programs into a single zip file for
downloading?
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 4:17 AM NURF NURD wrote:
> thanks the tips will deff put these to use when the unit arrives
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:52 PM, John R. Hogerhuis
> wrote:
>
>> Well we definitely
thanks the tips will deff put these to use when the unit arrives
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:52 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
> Well we definitely need to update the docs to include mcomm
>
>>
> -- John.
>
Well we definitely need to update the docs to include mcomm
>
-- John.
You can transfer files to your m100 using a serial terminal program, a usb
to serial adapter, and a null modem cable.
Once the file is on your m100 you can save it to floppy if you like.
If you have a floppy driver or rom loaded already you can use that to load
files over the serial cable via
erver.
>>
>> But otherwise the ones I checked were all downloadable.
>>
>> I have not tried to save them to tape or play them yet
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve
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>> *From:* M100 on behalf of Jesus R <
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f Jesus R <
> sonor...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 1:50 PM
> *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* [M100] program library in WAV format
>
> As an update I have pretty much completed the archival process for the
> games in the club100 website. Nex
Agree and done.
Thanks
JR
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Jesus,
Correction to your Usage Instructions:
Change: 2. From BASIC on your unit type: cload"cas:filename.ba"
and press Enter.
To: 2. From BASIC on your unit type: cload"filename" and press
Enter.
The CLOAD command only works with the CAS:
s R
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As an update I have pretty much completed the archival process for the
games in the club100 website. Next I plan to hit drives and utility
program
I'm far from done and its a bit of work. If you have them done
already...can you provide them so can post them?
Jesus R
Too bad I didn't see this earlier. I converted a huge chunk of these (if
not all of them) a couple of years ago.
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You are correctthis passes files direct from computer or phone to your
Tandy unit via their audio output.
You shouldn't have to transfer to tape.
Should be able to play from your computer or phone through headphone jack.
-- John.
It was a bad link...I'm sure there is more room for error:)
*Steven Ranft* s_ranft at hotmail.com
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You shouldnt have to transfer to tape.
Should be able to play from your computer or phone through headphone jack.
-- John.
it downloaded
fine.
Steve
From: M100 on behalf of Steven Ranft
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 2:37 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] program library in WAV format
Hi Jesus,
Thanks for all the effort! Good job.
I found the link for Cribbage
Thanks,
Steve
From: M100 on behalf of Jesus R
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 1:50 PM
To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
Subject: [M100] program library in WAV format
As an update I have pretty much completed the archival process for the games in
the club100 website
As an update I have pretty much completed the archival process for the
games in the club100 website. Next I plan to hit drives and utility
programs.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m7QRN1I5KpJJO_RKYnwFhmrluDjbYm6bEe_rIgz80ug/edit#gid=1942875794
It would be nice to have some people try it
Fwiw ISTR having pretty good luck recording to mp3 and have it be readable.
My process was to use Audacity with certain settings.
That said I've always been pretty happy with serial transfer since audio
transfer is fiddly.
-- John.
>
: M100 on behalf of Jesus R
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 4:51:01 PM
To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
Subject: [M100] program library in WAV format
Some updates:
I have been testing the save and load function via a Logitech USB to earphone
and microphone interface. This interface came with a gaming
Some updates:
I have been testing the save and load function via a Logitech USB to
earphone and microphone interface. This interface came with a gaming
headset. I'm using Audacity to capture and play the file for loading and
saving them on my T100.
As a proof of concept I have some files you can
Team, what was I thinkingFLAC is better using less space and has Tags.
Josh, thanks for the Virtual-T suggestion.
bogus maximus that is funny!
JR
We can call it the M100 Greatest Hits - So Far...
:)
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 6:16 AM Ron Lauzon wrote:
> Nice idea.
> This is how many people have done software libraries for the TRS-80
> Pocket Computers. In nearly all cases, the cassette interface was the
> ONLY way for a Pocket Computer to
Nice idea.
This is how many people have done software libraries for the TRS-80
Pocket Computers. In nearly all cases, the cassette interface was the
ONLY way for a Pocket Computer to save/load stuff to an external
device.
But that's the first time I've ever heard the term "quickly load" in
Sounds like a cool idea!
It might be possible to bulk-convert them using Virtual-T. You can enable
the remote control option and then write a script to use that command line
to load and save a bunch of programs. I'd suggest looking into that.
-Josh
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 8:04 AM Jesus R wrote:
Team, I'm thinking of starting a program library in WAV format and list the
programs in Google Docs. This allows us to use any digital wav playback
scheme to quickly load the programs into our machine. One source for
programs are the magazines in the club's archives. Any comments or
suggestions?
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