Hi Geoff
Just out of interest, do you happen to have a thumb drive or external hard
drive on which you could try this test? As for that Lion Diskmaker, I think it
was just written by somebody who has far too much time on their hands. :)
Gordon
On 2 Aug 2012, at 22:02, Geoff Waaler
Hi Josh
Right, I'm with you now. No, the two are independent applications although
yes, you can access Disk Utility via the menu structure from within the
recovery tool, just as you can from within the Mac OS X installer utility.
But, if it's too much hassle to go to the Utilities folder to
Didn't even know that command existed! Ah, the joys of being a
newbee... :) so, ok, now that we're on the same page, how would
burning a copy to a thumb drive be done? Thanks!
On 8/3/12, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
Hi Josh
Right, I'm with you now. No, the two are independent
Hello all is there a way of assigning a sound when shutting down a mac
computer and if so how? Thanks!
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Hello Gordon and all for education's sake whereabouts in the menus is Disk
Utility? Thanks!
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From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: can not burn ml
Hi
Hi Josh
Firstly, Josh, from the Finder you can press Command+Shift+A to open the
/applications folder. Command+Shift+U will open the /applications/utilities
folder. There are a number of other shortcuts, (Found in System
PreverencesKeyboardShortcuts.
If you use the recovery tool, it gathers
Sort of... I guess it's a thing I'll have to look at to understand.
On 8/3/12, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
Hi Josh
Firstly, Josh, from the Finder you can press Command+Shift+A to open the
/applications folder. Command+Shift+U will open the /applications/utilities
folder.
Hi Josh and Chris
No, this cannot be done. But personally, I don't think it's really an issue.
Maybe it's just that I've grown so accustomed to Mac OS, or maybe it's just my
in-built dislike of Windows. I use it because I have too now and then, and it
looks as though I'll have too for work,
Hello,
I just wanted to say thanks very much for all of your great answers.
The feedback about changing to touch typing was especially helpful, as
well as the direct link to read the user manual in my own web browser.
Your responses have increased my confidence that I'll be an expert
Hello Josh
On 3 Aug 2012, at 14:01, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
Sort of... I guess it's a thing I'll have to look at to understand.
Which part of my explanation is unclear to you? I thought I explained it
reasonably well but, if not, plead do let me know.
By the way, in my
Hello Mary
This is precisely why this list exists. If one person gets the help they need
from us as a group, then it's worth while. I will write to you off list,
(again), and I hope we can help you to achieve that expertise you desire. ;-)
Gordon
On 3 Aug 2012, at 14:16, Mary Stores
under Users and Groups in system preferences, (and elsewhere) many setting
fields are dimmed and there is a button and a check box towards the end that
says click the lock to make changes. Clicking (VO-space) on either the button
or the checkbox brings up another window with a name and password
Once you fill in your password, press enter.
On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:
under Users and Groups in system preferences, (and elsewhere) many setting
fields are dimmed and there is a button and a check box towards the end that
says click the lock to make
Hi PHil,
In addition to Marcy Stuart's suggestion of pressing the Enter key, also
known as the Return key, you also have the option to stop interacting with the
UserName / Password section of that particular dialog box by pressing
VO+Shift+Up Arrow. This will allow you to navigate the rest of
Well, if that is the case, how on earth do we know if the Mac is shutting
down? Does VoiceOver stay until it is about to be turned off? Kind of like
how iOS devices do it? Thanks!
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From: josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility
I don't see why one would be needed, from what I've seen with almost every
mac I've used it shuts down almost instantly.
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From: Gordon Smith
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 09:12
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Shut down sound
Hi Josh and Chris
No, this
In practice I have not found this to be a problem as generally the Mac
shuts down a lot quicker. ON my IMac I do not shut down but morally put it
to sleep with command option escape and it is startlingly quick, pretty much
instantaneous really , I can tell the screen just goes black in a blink. .
Hi, if you listen you can hear the fan turn off when it shuts down. Or
maybe thats the processor, idk. And yeah it does usually shut down
pretty quick.
On 8/3/12, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:
In practice I have not found this to be a problem as generally the Mac
shuts down a
Hi Esther, Gordon and others,
I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were
apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB
connected media.
Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition type in
the delete dialog of Disk
When you enter your password, hit return in the same window.
Gordon
On 3 Aug 2012, at 15:33, Phil Halton philh...@comcast.net wrote:
under Users and Groups in system preferences, (and elsewhere) many setting
fields are dimmed and there is a button and a check box towards the end that
says
Hi Chris
My only suggestion is that you can feel the fan and HD activity until your
machine is shut down. No, VoiceOver often goes down some time before the
machine because the OS does a bit of housekeeping before it closes. If you use
the system shortcut, Command+Option+Control+Eject,
Hello David and all so could I put the mac computer to sleep at all times
then when I need to use it wake it up? If so when should one fully shut down
the system if at all? Thanks!
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To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility'
My mac which is the late 2009 model shuts down so fast it cuts voiceover off
all the time, it's near instant.
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From: chris hallsworth
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 11:21
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Shut down sound
Well, if that is the case, how on
Hi Geoff
If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a Partition tab. There
is an Options button just before the two cancel and OK buttons. Pressing
that will bring up a table of different partition types. In that table just
select the Guide partition type radio button and click
Josh
In order to do this, see my previous message. I think the explanation is
adequate. If you need more by all means get back to me on or off list.
Gordon
On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:13, josh gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi;
I created a 200gb partition on the macentosh hd drive for time
Chris, you could, but if it's a laptop be aware that it'll eventually
need charging.
On 8/3/12, Mike Welty ratta...@gmail.com wrote:
My mac which is the late 2009 model shuts down so fast it cuts voiceover off
all the time, it's near instant.
-Original Message-
From: chris
Also we should factor in that Mac has a fast shutdown. It's a lot faster than
my Windows xp. It's even faster if you do the control option command eject
method of shutdown.
On Aug 3, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
Hi Josh and Chris
No, this cannot be done.
lol. Mine often takes about 15 to 30 seconds to shut down but I listen for all
of my 3 or 4 hard drives to stop spinning and i know everything is shut down
successfully.
Take care.
On Aug 3, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Mike Welty ratta...@gmail.com wrote:
My mac which is the late 2009 model shuts down
The recovery tool is nice, how ever, if you run that you will need to download
the ml from the app store and if you are installing it on early 2008 macs that
will not work as in the cse of my friend who tried and it said your system is
not compatible.
On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Gordon Smith
That and the air will stop circulating because it will turn off. When you
start with your mac you will find it's shutdown is much faster than your
windows machines before, unless something is open and blocks it and at some
point v o will start speaking. But cursoring around with nothing from
Hello Ester and all this sounds good and sounds a good alternative for
programs like Dvd Audio Extractor found on the other OS. Thanks for sharing
the info with us. Much appreciated.
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To: Mac OSX
Hello all so is this a problem with the Macbook line of products as well?
Thanks!
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To: Mac-Access Mac-Access@Mac-Access.net
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:01 PM
Subject: New iMac user with wi-fi/bluetooth problems
Hello,
I did not yet put my mac to sleep using ml but might try it at some point to
see if wifi and bt blows up. I hope not.
Take care all.
On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:11 AM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all so is this a problem with the Macbook line of products as well?
I have an email account set up with the Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School,
since I'm a parent. I have managed to get it set up correctly on my Mac, but
when I input the same information for my iPod, it isn't recognizing it. The
email address is my email address at my pa cyber dot org not
Sarah
Possibly that system won't run the operating system anyway, so it's a mute
point in that happenstance.
On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:52, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
The recovery tool is nice, how ever, if you run that you will need to download
the ml from the app store and if you
Is this accessible w vo? I have had no internet or computer for about 2 days so
have not tried this. if it is I imagine you can do this w a keystroke? I know
hitting enter works but suppose you want to for some reason rename a file from
the title bar.
Take care.
I did this in lion but did not do this in ml as i don't have a need to leave no
windows in an app. I just quit it. This is using the terminal so be aware of
that for those of you who don't want to get your feet wet.
http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20120726192014497
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Sounds great, so I guess unlike Windows VoiceOver stays on until the very
last second. Saying this as on the Windows machines the screen reader gets
unloaded first before shutting down. So is this not the case with VoiceOver?
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From: Thomas McMahan de.kf...@gmail.com
You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they
want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages
that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I
have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless
Wow! so does this keystroke perform some kind of an instant shut down then?
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From: Thomas McMahan de.kf...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Shut down sound
Also we should factor in
Hello Gordon and all yes this is very useful indeed and thanks. That's
amazing there are keystrokes to shut down and restart the system. So where
is the eject key then please on a Macbook? Thanks!
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From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net
To: Mac OSX iOS
Hi there!
this link will take you to a page that explains how to get in using a Mac and VO
hth Colin
http://talkingcommunities.com/helpdesk/knowledgebase.php?article=85
On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:53, josh gregory wrote:
Hi;
Just curious, is there a way for the talking communities conference
I think it pulls some information from apple's servers when it's installing
lion or later, plus it links in to ICloud too, have to keep that in mind.
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From: chris hallsworth
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 14:37
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility
Subject: Installing Lion
Yeah. go to a friend's computer or a library one, sign in to the app store
under your account, download lion or what ever and make a flash disk and then
take it to the off line computer and then install it by booting in to the flash
disk.
This is the reason why I can't use the recovery tool.
thanks. I don't use the tc client right now but if I need to I'll keep
this link.
On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com
wrote:
Hi there!
this link will take you to a page that explains how to get in using a Mac and
VO
hth Colin
If it is an archive, you don't need the client, just go to the site and
download the file.
Glenn
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From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: talking communities
The eject key is 1 key to the right on the mac laptop keyboard. I learned of
this I believe through the apple manu when they did the keystrokes there at one
time, 2 years ago. It is a nice way to shut down. Just hit control cmd option
eject to shot down, cmd option eject to sleep and control
I use an app called pdf to text. simply drag the file on to the app in the apps
folder and you have an rtf file on your desk top, I think. It's been a while
since I used it but it works for what I need it to.
I'm unsure if it will do tables but it's worth a try.
On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:11 AM,
Thanks, not sure if I know any libraries in my area who have macs, so will
see what I can do.
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From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later
It either is not as multi layered as windows at shutdown or is just a lot
faster. Sometimes voice will be cut off in mid word while in shut down
process, but from that point on it's pretty fast. Since I have an i-mac and
it's very quiet I just use feeling the air circulation to tell me it's
lol. Maybe someone has a better solution then mine but for now it could work.
lol! it is a bit convoluted but since it does not need to download anything I
don't see any reason why installing from the flash drive with out hooking up to
the internet would not work, or something.
On Aug 3, 2012,
Not that I know of, I think they presume everybody has a fast internet or can
get to an Apple store which I know of a person who does that for his o s
upgrades because his internet seems to drop it partly through the download.
On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:37 PM, chris hallsworth
Yes it does without going through the normal dialog. Kind of handy when you
get a sudden clap of thunder that tells you a storm is right there and you want
to protect your machine by having it off. Or have to leave fast.
On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:38 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com
So, can I use this key to eject a CD or DVD or other removable storage?
Thanks!
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From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: Shut down sound
The eject key is 1
You can use it to eject cd or DVDs. To eject other drives you highlight on
the desktop and press command E.
David Griffith
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Sent: 03 August 2012 21:13
To:
All I have to do to wake the Mac up is press a key.
David Griffith
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Sent: 03 August 2012 17:31
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Shut down sound
Cd or dvd, not things that hook up via usb port have to do command e for that
because it effects just the feed point to the cd drive/burner.
On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:13 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
So, can I use this key to eject a CD or DVD or other removable storage?
Hi Geoff,
Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the Partition tab in Disk
Utility. I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for
being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the Partition tab and
create a new partition, which also deletes existing
I installed ml on my external.
I have Lion running on my I Mac's hard drive.
How does one pick which os to use?
Mark with great thanks!
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Ar, great to hear you can do it via the Apple retail store.
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To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later
Not that I know of, I think
As my not so famous saying goes, Oh, why did I not think of that. Yeah go to
their internet and then download it via their mac app store signed in as you
of corse, copy the app file to a flash drive and when you get home just use
your tools you have in your mac to then make a flash drive, or
boot and while you are booting hold downy he option key for about 10 seconds.
Let up on it and arrow left. This should be your external where ml is restored.
Take care.
On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com wrote:
I installed ml on my external.
I have Lion running on
Actually that is the actually function of the button. Just from with in the
finder hold down the button. Not sure if it works globally, but just hold it
down and the cd/dvd should come out.
On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:13 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
So, can I use this key to
Hmm have not tried carbon copy cloner to make an ml blush drive. I don't have
the app on my hd anymore but if I bring it back to the right pace how do I do
this? I read the docs but it did not appear to have the option.
Take care.
On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net
Hello to all. Since updating to ml I still cannot hide purchases using iTunes
and the iTunes app store. I have tried everything under the very hot sun we
have here where I live and nothing. here is a bit of a rough demo of what i
mean.
Ok, Firstly, it seems,my scientific method is sorely lacking at 1 am so several
dispirit conditions lead me to make incorrect and in retrospect, ludicrous
assumptions regarding issues I'm having in Mountain Lionon my 2011 mbp.
There are issues but on further investigation, they are
Hello Paul,
You might try one of Wondershare's products -- either PDF Converter for Mac or
PDF Converter Pro -- in trial mode. This is a kind of hokey answer, and I
wouldn't want to purchase the product ($59.99 or $79.99 for Pro) unless they
made some accessibility fixes to their interface.
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