Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread christopher hallsworth
Effectively I am because of the extra dash after the word leave.
 On 25 May 2015, at 09:40, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Are you saying Ann has given an incorrect address to unsubscribe Chris?s
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 8:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
 
 
 No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave.
 On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I’m not a moderator, so don’t shoot me down!
 
 I think this will work for leaving the list which is using SurgeMail. Send a 
 message to:
 mac-access-lea...@mac-access.net
 
 The subject and body do not matter.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread christopher hallsworth
No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave.
 On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I’m not a moderator, so don’t shoot me down!
 
 I think this will work for leaving the list which is using SurgeMail. Send a 
 message to:
 mac-access-lea...@mac-access.net
 
 The subject and body do not matter.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 




Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread christopher hallsworth
I tried this, but it didn't work. I got nothing back.
 On 25 May 2015, at 09:47, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 
 Hello Chris,
 
 Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be:
 mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave.
 On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 




Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list

2015-05-25 Thread christopher hallsworth
I have not unsubscribed either, but didn't want to. I just sent the request to 
see if it would work. I got nothing back.
 On 25 May 2015, at 16:22, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
  
  
 Hi Ann and Chris
  
 I have tried your suggestions below and unfortunatley I am not unsubscribed.
  
 I am very grateful for all the help I have received from members on this list 
 over the last few failing to also unsubscribe.  Perhaps there may be a way to 
 block or reject the emails from this list?
  
 best wishes to you all
  
 Henry
  
  
 From: Anne Robertson [mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk] 
 Sent: 25 May 2015 09:48
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: How to leave the list
  
  
 Hello Chris,
  
 Yes,you’re right. Sorry about that. It should be:
 mac-access-le...@mac-access.net
  
 Cheers,
  
 Anne
  
  
 On 25 May 2015, at 09:33, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
  
 No wonder it may not work; there is an extra dash after the word leave.
 
 On 25 May 2015, at 08:31, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
  




[Mac-access]: Updated MBraille Podcast

2015-05-03 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi all

Here is the updated MBraille Podcast you've all been waiting for. The links to 
download and or listen are below. Enjoy!

Dropbox:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625623/Updated%20MBraille%20Podcast.mp3

Sendspace:
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/edna8z


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Re: [Mac-access]: mac update desktop

2015-05-02 Thread christopher hallsworth
Yeah it's way cool! I even upgraded to the desktop plan, $20/year, with little 
hesitation. Without that, I could only update up to 5 apps a month.
 On 2 May 2015, at 18:24, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I do it this way. It installs it for you and then you can update *all* apps 
 that are on mac update and on your system. It's way too cool! and very 
 convenient
 On May 2, 2015, at 5:18 AM, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 I was just  looking at installing Vienna when I was presented with Mac 
 update desktop 6 which sounds easier to download apps.  Are there any pros 
 or cons to downloading apps using  desktop 6.
 Many thanks  Judy
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Re: [Mac-access]: email vanishing

2015-04-30 Thread christopher hallsworth
At the startup chime, press command-r. After about a minute, press command-f5 
to activate VoiceOver.
 On 30 Apr 2015, at 18:40, Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net wrote:
 
 SOrry, but how do you start in recovery mode?
 Thanks.
 
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 Start your mac in recovery mode, choose disk utility, then your mac's drive, 
 then choose repair permissions under first aid. You get to recovery with cmd 
 r. Hold that down for 30 seconds at power up then turn on voice over.
 
 I do this every time there's a major update to osx.
 On Apr 29, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net wrote:
 
 How do I do something like that. It sounds daunting.
 
 On Apr 29, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Agreed. I would try a permissions repair then if that does not settle the 
 issue a complete overhall of the os, that should take between 4 and 6 
 hours. Ok, I had to migrate from an old time mchine drive that is a bit 
 slow but it works. I normally would not recommend a reinstall of the os, 
 but there really is not a clean way to install mail anymore.
 
 Take care.
 On Apr 28, 2015, at 11:55 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 No problems with Mail here under OS X 10.10.3.
 On 29 Apr 2015, at 01:00, Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net wrote:
 
 Hi there. Are there any other email programs that work well with the mac?
 I am getting tired of email vanishing with no trace.
 Thanks.
 Lovette
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: email vanishing

2015-04-29 Thread christopher hallsworth
No problems with Mail here under OS X 10.10.3.
 On 29 Apr 2015, at 01:00, Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net wrote:
 
 Hi there. Are there any other email programs that work well with the mac?
 I am getting tired of email vanishing with no trace.
 Thanks.
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[Mac-access]: MBraille iOS app update

2015-04-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
I have not seen any information on the below sent to any other lists apart from 
my own, so excuse the cross posting, but enjoy!

Hello everyone

I hope you like the subject.

Well, ladies and gentleman, I can't believe I can bring such exciting news to 
you iOS users who can write Braille. Yes, iOS 8 includes Braille Screen Input. 
But, we're not talking about that, we're talking about MBraille. Why? Well, let 
me introduce you to this exciting update.

As of today, you will be able to download and install MBraille, as usual, to 
your iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch. Now, suspense over, you can use this very app 
as a third party keyboard for your device! Yes, that's correct! MBraille can 
now be used as a third party keyboard, providing you are willing to make an 
in-app purchase to activate this function. I can also reveal that I have been 
testing this exciting update privately thanks to Apple's Test Flight Program 
which I was kindly invited to by its developer. The testing went extremely 
well. During the test cycle they announced that there would be an introductory 
offer of $9.99 to activate MBraille KB, the function to use MBraille as a third 
party keyboard. But don't worry if you can't afford even that much; you can 
still use MBraille proper, or the MBraille you used to know and love. That 
isn't going away any time soon, I can assure you of that.

If you have decided to make that in-app purchase, you can activate MBraille as 
a third party keyboard by going to your device settings, then general, then 
keyboard. Next, double tap keyboards followed by a number such as 1. Then, 
double tap the add new keyboard... button. MBraille should be listed besides 
the third party keyboards heading. Double tap on that, and it will be 
automatically added to your list of keyboards. But, there's one more thing to 
do. Double tap on the newly added entry. In there, double tap the allow full 
access off, and double tap allow. For those privacy concious members, please 
read the warning that is displayed very carefully. Also, Apple does not allow 
third party keyboards in general in places like password text fields and maybe 
credit card text fields you find in HTML based apps. Now here's how to use it. 
1. Open any text field apart from the above. 2. Double tap the next keyboard 
button, to the right of the more, and there you have it! To exit MBr
 aille as a third party keyboard, do a three finger swipe to the left or right 
to switch to previous or next keyboard respectively.

Well, I wish you all the best in your adventure. Happy Brailling!
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Re: [Mac-access]: i completely turned off voice over

2015-04-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Command-f5 or you may have muted the output altogether in which case you 
press fn-f10 or just f10 depending on how you've configured f1, f2 etc.


On 19/04/2015 13:52, adrian wrote:

I just turned off voice over on my mack when i restart it i cant hear the mack 
start up time sound. How can i get it back a long with voice over?

```Sent from my iPad
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[Mac-access]: VoiceOver training

2015-04-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all,

Here is something else I am going to venture in to: VoiceOver training 
voluntarily. As a refresher I am going to use this tutorial-based site 
located here

www.voiceover-easy.net

I may have work very soon.
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Re: [Mac-access]: How to hack the new MacBook’s power chime onto the MacBook Air and Pro

2015-04-17 Thread christopher hallsworth
Yes, it worked! And this is the first time I ever tried something in Terminal. 
Cheers for sharing this with us!
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 06:46, blind man blindma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hey wow! it works!
 
 that’s just cool!
 thanks for that tip, love.
 
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 08:47, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I tested this and it works. Article link and text is below.  Enjoy.
 
 
 http://www.cultofmac.com/319331/how-to-hack-the-new-macbook-power-chime-onto-the-macbook-air-pro/
  
 http://www.cultofmac.com/319331/how-to-hack-the-new-macbook-power-chime-onto-the-macbook-air-pro/
 
 You know how the iPhone and iPad plays a little chime when you plug it in? 
 The new MacBook also does that. But sadly, the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro 
 remain completely silent when they connect to juice — which can make it hard 
 to tell when you’ve accidentally knocked the MagSafe loose.
 If you’ve got a MacBook Pro or MacBook Air, though, it’s easy to hack in the 
 new MacBook’s power-charging sound. Here’s how.
 
 This tip comes from the always excellent OS X Daily 
 http://osxdaily.com/2015/04/15/play-chime-sound-effect-when-macbook-power-connects/,
  which notes that enabling a power chime sound effect when plugging in a 
 MacBook Pro or MacBook Air is as easy as unplugging your device, loading up 
 the Terminal app, and pasting this in:
 defaults write com.apple.PowerChime ChimeOnAllHardware -bool true; open 
 /System/Library/CoreServices/PowerChime.app 
 
 Plug your MacBook Pro or Air back in and voila! There’s the chime.
 As for turning it back off again if you don’t like it, just turn the “true” 
 in the above command to “false.”
 If you need more details, head over to OS X Daily for the full run-through 
 http://osxdaily.com/2015/04/15/play-chime-sound-effect-when-macbook-power-connects/.
 Source OS X Daily 
 http://osxdaily.com/2015/04/15/play-chime-sound-effect-when-macbook-power-connects/
 
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[Mac-access]: Some Apple news

2015-04-15 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all,
some Apple news. Some products will be purchased in the future which dad 
has allowed me to consider. The first is an Apple TV which is a small 
media streaming box that is connected to your TV and allows you to 
stream anything from media stored in iTunes either for PC or Mac to TV 
shows and movies either purchased from the iTunes Store or streamed from 
a service like Netflix which as of yesterday is now providing audio 
description. The device costs £99.00 UK but extra charges may apply 
especially if you subscribe to services like Netflix which is 
£6.00/month UK. The second product to be considered is the Apple Watch. 
Dad is hinting I can do allsorts from my writs without getting my phone 
out of my pocket. But like I told him it is only compatible with the 
iPhone 5 and later so this will definitely be a future purchase whereas 
the Apple TV is a near future purchase. He sounds really excited that 
they both talk. If anyone has an Apple TV please tell me what you think 
of it. Thank you in advance! Both products were discussed during our 
pints this afternoon.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-14 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
I use the BT keyboard by Amazon Basics and it works well. It cost under 
£20.00 UK compared to an Apple BT keyboard which can cost under £60.00 UK.


On 14/04/2015 09:26, Judy Pryor wrote:

thanks Christopher I am so glad I asked peoples opinions.  Do you have any 
thoughts about BT keyboards?
Judy
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If I was to upgrade, which I have no plans to do at this time, I would go for 
the 5s at least, especially if the next major release of iOS is only going to 
work on 64 bit devices.

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I have been offered an iPhone 5 for £80 is it much better than my 4S. Would it 
be better to find a 5S.   I also wondered which are the best BT keyboards to 
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8  etc have been sorted out.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

2015-04-13 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
If I was to upgrade, which I have no plans to do at this time, I would 
go for the 5s at least, especially if the next major release of iOS is 
only going to work on 64 bit devices.


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Re: [Mac-access]: 1Password

2015-04-08 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Yes but it's on the iPad too and that has the same hardware specs as the 
iPad Mini 3 except for Touch ID.


On 08/04/2015 10:33, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Yep, not at all surprised then when it comes to the 4S.



On 8/04/2015 7:19 PM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:

iOS 8.2.

On 08/04/2015 09:15, Dane Trethowan wrote:

What IOS are you using? I'm using the latest update though I know many
people who are not.

I know that IOS 8 and the iPhone 4S don't get along too well smile.



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No because it's the same on the iPad, could be the iOS I'm using.

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I've been using the iOS version and I don't have the problem of which
you speak, I'm wondering if it has something to do with the older
iPHone
you're using and the IOS?



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Things seem to work great but now and again attempts to swipe
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great app with VoiceOver.
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Re: [Mac-access]: 1Password

2015-04-08 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

iOS 8.2.

On 08/04/2015 09:15, Dane Trethowan wrote:

What IOS are you using? I'm using the latest update though I know many
people who are not.

I know that IOS 8 and the iPhone 4S don't get along too well smile.



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No because it's the same on the iPad, could be the iOS I'm using.

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I've been using the iOS version and I don't have the problem of which
you speak, I'm wondering if it has something to do with the older iPHone
you're using and the IOS?



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Re: [Mac-access]: 1Password

2015-04-08 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

No because it's the same on the iPad, could be the iOS I'm using.

On 08/04/2015 08:47, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I've been using the iOS version and I don't have the problem of which
you speak, I'm wondering if it has something to do with the older iPHone
you're using and the IOS?



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[Mac-access]: 1Password

2015-04-08 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all
I am trying the 1Password app on both my iPhone 4s and iPad Mini 2. 
Things seem to work great 	but now and again attempts to swipe results 
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Re: [Mac-access]: 1Password again

2015-04-08 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Sorry about that. I know how to use it on other platforms. Again sorry 
for the generalization.


On 08/04/2015 19:29, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I guess it comes down to how well you know the product, I use this App on all 
Platforms its available on, perfectly accessible if you know what you’re doing 
and prepared to take the time to learn how an App works.

I won’t go into too much detail here as I’d stray off-topic but 1 Password for 
other platforms has a slightly different structure which is deliberate and 
making generalisations as you did isn’t particularly helpful.



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Hi all
I now have the Mac version of 1Password for now running in trial mode. I have 
to say this is far more accessible than the version for the other platform.
That's all I can say really.
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[Mac-access]: 1Password again

2015-04-08 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi all
I now have the Mac version of 1Password for now running in trial mode. I have 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Apple mail and contacts.

2015-03-20 Thread christopher hallsworth
Command-option-a does not work for me.
 On 19 Mar 2015, at 23:43, Colin Matthews velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 OK the command is [Command+Option+A]
 That will bring up the address panel!
 HTH Colin
 
 On 19 Mar 2015, at 15:37, Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello:
 
 But is there a way to access the list of contacts via Apple Mail and insert 
 an address from a particular contact card?
 
 I read somewhere that one could choose a contact and send an email from 
 there but I have not been able to get that to work.
 
 Cheers.
 
 
  
 On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 just start typing it and it will then show up. I will obviously have to 
 complete the whole email address.
 
 
 
 On 19 Mar 2015, at 14:31, Jim Noseworthy 
 jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com wrote:
 
 Hi Folks:
 
 
 
 In Yosemite, how does one insert an address from the contacts in to a new
 mail?
 
 
 
 Thanks all over the place gang.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Facebook on Masc OS

2015-03-15 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
While others use MenuTab or MenuTab Pro for Facebook, I use Current for 
Facebook. This is a paid app in the Mac App Store. Please be mindful 
though it does not allow access to the mobile interface of Facebook. For 
times I want to use the mobile interface I use MenuTab Pro for Facebook 
because I have that installed along with Current for Facebook.


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Hello,
I know this topic has recently been discussed but alas I did not follow that 
discussion.

I have been trying to use facebook on Yosemite 10.10.3 beta using Safari and 
the facebook web site. Using VoiceOver I have found this extremely confusing 
and for me pretty much unusable. Is there an App which I can download from the 
App store which will provide a VoiceOver friendly interface to facebook?

A friend from many years ago has found my facebook account, which I hardly ever 
use. Initially I want to look at the about information for that friend to 
catchup on what they have been doing, and then to send a message to that 
friend. I also need to update my facebook profile to add more detail. I cannot 
figure out how to do either of the above using VoiceOver on the facebook web 
site. I thus hope an App will make this easier.

Many thanks for any advice….

Paul Hopewell
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Re: [Mac-access]: apple watch

2015-03-13 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
No but am interested to read all about it as I am with any technology. 
Smile.


On 13/03/2015 12:56, william lomas wrote:

hi all,



,so anyone buying apple watch?
be cool if someone seeing it in-store, record first impressions?
would want to hear it all in use before i decide to pre-order.

by the way, if one pre-orders, would that mean it comes in the mail on 24th, 
release day?
Thanks
Will



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Re: [Mac-access]: safari extensions

2015-03-08 Thread christopher hallsworth
I don't use any extensions other than the Rumola capture solving one.
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 I was looking at the list of Safari extensions and I wondered  which ones the 
 group might recommend
 is Click to Flash a good idea.
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Re: [Mac-access]: recording skype

2015-02-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
Audio Hijack could do this
www.rogueamoeba.com http://www.rogueamoeba.com/

 On 24 Feb 2015, at 18:30, Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net wrote:
 
 Can someone recommend a recording app for skype on my mac that works well 
 with voice over?
 Thanks.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Moving an application to the dock

2015-02-23 Thread christopher hallsworth
Yes. Press shift-control-command-t.



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 I have just downloaded an app to my Mac and it's in applications. Is it 
 possible to move this app to the dock? If it is how do I do it? 
 
 Margaret 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Google Chrome

2015-01-31 Thread christopher hallsworth
Safari now allows you to navigate web pages using standalone arrow keys. Just 
turn QuickNav off and check it out.
 On 1 Feb 2015, at 02:45, Sean Murphy smur7...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 This is why I don’t like the VO approach to web pages. All other approaches 
 treat the page as a document. Thus you just need to use your arrow keys to 
 navigate and not interact with frames, tables, etc.
 
 Simple pages in safari work fine. It becomes real difficult when you have a 
 complex pages.
 
 Sean 
 On 1 Feb 2015, at 3:17 am, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote:
 
 Oh, this is normal, it's likely a result of changes in webkit (the browser 
 code most osx browsers use to render their content).
 When I was using leopard, there were several web pages that rendered just 
 fine.  Upon upgrading to snowleopard, many of these sites got modified to 
 use tables instead.  This is not a good thing in my opinion, because it 
 takes more interacting, less control over what gets read, and more 
 navigational commands to get through the pages.  Needless to say, I wasn't 
 happy.
 Unfortunately, my imac isn't new enough to upgrade any further, so I'm stuck 
 until I can obtain a newer mac.  Perhaps your issues are similarly related.
 
 On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
 
 Can you provide some more details so we can try to reproduce what you are 
 finding? For example, can you provide links to some websites where you are 
 experiencing these “collapsed things,” and maybe describe the differences 
 between how you used to be able to read the pages more easily and how it is 
 different now?
 
 On Jan 29, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net wrote:
 One thing I am noticing is that there are a lot of collapsed things and I 
 cannot read the pages as easily as before.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: A question about Containers in several different contexts

2015-01-29 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi Chris,
Containers on iOS are like areas of a screen. Take the Mail app for example. 
There are at least two containers, maybe a third if a message is open. The 
first container contains the mailboxes. The second container contains messages 
in the selected mailbox. The third container, if appropriate, contains the 
content of the selected message. Now, containers on the mac? I have not seen 
those at all, not even in Safari.
 On 29 Jan 2015, at 19:45, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 OK, someone on here made mention about a question with a friend's IPad.  I
 do not like hijacking other threads if I can at all prevent it, which
 usually I can, and therefore, that is why I am starting this new thread, as
 it only remotely has to do with the IPad.  The only reason I really even
 mention that other thread is because it is what sparked me to ask this
 question, and got me thinking.
 
 One thing that I have noticed on I O S is when turning my rotor back and
 forth, I keep hearing this thing called Containers.  So, I guess I'm a
 little bit confused.  What exactly is a container in that particular type
 context?  The other place where I see the mention of containers in on the
 mac within Safari.  I noticed that you have the same thing.  So, what
 exactly are! containers?
 
 Not only would a definition of their meaning be helpful, but if you all
 could actually give me a practical example both on I O S, and another
 specifically on the mac side of things, that would be very helpful in
 helping me grasp this concept.
 
 Thank you.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: An iPad Question.

2015-01-28 Thread christopher hallsworth
There is no setting to change this behaviour. What happens; the categories like 
general appears on the left hand side. Double tap to select and show settings 
for that category on the right hand side. To make it easier you may want to 
look into turning the rotor to containers and navigate by them.
 On 28 Jan 2015, at 21:24, Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Folks:
 
 I am trying to help a person with her iPad and Voiceover.  I have an iPhone
 but not an iPad.
 
 The problem is that, if she opens an item, for example Bluetooth settings
 under settings, in stead of her speech focused in the Bluetooth setup menu,
 it goes back to the Setup menu.  She then has to swipe quite a few times in
 order to enter the opened Bluetooth settings menu.
 
 Is there a setting on the iPad to prevent that from happening?  Is that a
 container thing?
 
 Thanks all over the place gang.
 
 
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[Mac-access]: New bluetooth speakers

2015-01-28 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi all,
Today I  received my belated Christmas present from friend and list member 
Hannah Day, stereo bluetooth speakers by Gear 4. It is very small but has 
excellent bass. It is also completely accessible. When you switch it on via a 
small switch on the side it emits a chime and is immediately in pairing mode. 
Once connected, both VoiceOver and audio output in general comes through the 
speakers. Also guess what? We were surprised to discover it can also be used as 
a speakerphone. We assume one can talk to Siri as well as make and receive 
calls via the speaker. If you know any better please let us know as we are 
curious. Thanks! Charging is done via the USB port at the bottom of the unit. 
There are also push buttons on the unit but not sure what they do. Battery life 
is about five hours and the unit also supports line in meaning you can use 
these on any device that do not support bluetooth or you simply do not wish to 
use it.

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[Mac-access]: Re-sending an email message under Mac Os X's Mail application

2015-01-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi all,
I discovered a nifty feature in the Mail app for Mac Os X which can also be 
done in the Thunderbird app for at least Windows.
Want to send a message   to a different recipient? No problem! Just press the 
send command, shift-command-d, and you can send again as the command 
suggests. Make your edits where appropriate, then hit the same keystroke to 
send. How cool is that! I thought this was unique to Thunderbird but not now.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
Ditto. Mail is not clunky at all and is the only client I have on here. I 
downloaded Microsoft Outlook for Mac as part of my office 365 subscription but 
have not installed it yet and don't know if I can be bothered smile.
 On 25 Jan 2015, at 03:59, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Actually mail is not clunky at all.  In fact it's faster to get around things 
 then it ever was. All you need to do is learn your navigation key strokes and 
 visuallise your space.  Vo j is your friend.
 
 Tc.
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No?  I've not found it to be busy frequently, if ever, but that said, I do 
 find Mail now to be incredibly, and did I mention, incredibly! and oh, by 
 the way, incredibly! clunky compared to before.
 
 If it really is true that Office 365 subscribers as myself get access to an 
 accessible mac version of Microsoft Outlook, then, I very well, am becoming 
 more tempted by the minute to install and try it.
 
 But, then, I'm probably not the person you wanna be talking to about 
 Yosemite, as quite frankly, I hate it worth a passon!
 
 I frankly, find Yosemite to be ridiculously sloppy, not to mention very 
 clunky in general, but that's for another thread altogether.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Lovette Yewchan lyewc...@telus.net
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover
 
 
 I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail is 
 busy a lot?
 Lovette
 
 On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
 level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, 
 but frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and 
 that is that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but 
 don't come attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had 
 some list members do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got 
 blocked on my e-mail real quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of 
 arguing.  It's called preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point 
 is, I've looked under all of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see 
 nothing to shut this off.  Surely under the custom verbosity settings or 
 somewhere, there has got to be a way.
 
 It didn't do this in Mavericks.
 
 How can I fix this?
 
 Chris.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Should I be scared of Yosemite?

2015-01-22 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi all the nice thing about OS X so far is that there is not much of a learning 
curve if at all with each update. Of course things will change and there will 
be new features but overall the interface will be no different. Try that with 
Windows smile.
 On 22 Jan 2015, at 11:35, Ian Harrison 
 harrisonc...@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 Dear listers.
 I am thinking of buying a new mac mini. My old one currently runs Mountain 
 Lion. I am used to the software, but the machine is starting to die. Buying a 
 new one means I have to go to Yosemite. Can I have some opinions on the 
 learning curve and relative benefits, please.
 
 Grateful
 Ian   
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Re: [Mac-access]: anything better than text edit out there?

2015-01-20 Thread christopher hallsworth
I just got iText Express and it looks good as a basic Word Processor and Text 
Editor. It's free so why not?
 On 20 Jan 2015, at 19:39, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I use text edit after iText express crashed, plus the author cannot 
 understand that we need accessibility to edit foot notes, and I've been 
 trying to tell him this since 2011 now. Now my emails go unanswered.
 
 Take care.  and I love pages as well. I used that to write, and pass my 
 graduation thesis. 
 On Jan 20, 2015, at 8:07 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I use iText Express. It's a free app in the Mac app store. This is not to 
 say that I don't use TextEdit at all. Because I purchased my MacBook Air 
 just before the iWorks suite was hree for a new purchase, I would need to 
 purchase Pages, which I did demo, but was not impressed at the time since I 
 am a regular user of MS Office. HTH. 
 
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 20, 2015, at 7:05 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's frankly wrong with Text Edit?  I find it to work exceptionally well, 
 if I only need to read a text file.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Debbie April Yuille 
 debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au
 To: 'OS X  iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 7:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: anything better than text edit out there?
 
 
 Don't you have pages on the Mac? If not, you should be able to download it
 for free, or did you get your mac before Apple started giving Mac users
 pages, Numbers and Keynote for free with their macs.
 
 Debbie
 
 
 Sent from my PC
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
 Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2015 9:00 PM
 To: mac access
 Subject: [Mac-access]: anything better than text edit out there?
 
 hey all,
 i got to thinking about this question and thought i would ask it.
 is text edit the best text reader for mac? are there better alternatives 
 out
 there?
 Free programs would be preferable.
 thanks for any help
 
 Michael
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Re: [Mac-access]: Creating and deleting hot spot

2015-01-13 Thread christopher hallsworth
Try opening the Hotspot Chooser with vo-1-1. I'm going by VoiceOver help, 
commands help here so if this is not accurate then apologies in advance.
 On 14 Jan 2015, at 00:30, George Cham george.c...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 I created a hot spot to close an app, on the mac, a few months ago , but I’ve 
 forgotten the voice over commands to add and delete a hot spot.
 
 Any help would be appreciated .
 George Cham
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Re: [Mac-access]: Question about movies from the itunes store

2015-01-08 Thread christopher hallsworth
I can't really answer this, except to say I didn't think any movies at all at 
least in the U.K. are audio described. I'm willing to stand corrected though. 
As much as I like watching them on good old DVD, it would be nice to watch them 
from places like the iTunes Store.
 On 27 Dec 2014, at 21:50, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 I am contemplating renting or buying a movie from the iTunes store but first 
 have a couple of questions. I have never purchased or rented a movie from 
 anywhere before. 
 
 When I look up a movie title on the iTunes store I see a price of around £14 
 for HD and £10 for SD. I am unclear on whether this is the rental price or 
 the purchase price. This may arise because the movies I looked up are recent 
 releases (Mr Turner and the Imitation Game) and may not be available for both 
 rental and purchase. I am primarily interested in rental. 
 
 i see that rented movies have to be watched within 30 days of download and 
 once started watching has to be completed within 48 hours. Can I only watch a 
 rented movie once within the 30 days? 
 
 both the above movies are listed as pre-order. what does this mean? 
 
 Is audio description standard in all movies from the iTunes store? If so do I 
 have to do anything special to enable audio description? If it is not 
 standard are there options to enable me to choose a version with audio 
 description? How do I know which movies have audio description and which do 
 not? 
 
 Many thanks for any help on the above. 
 Happy New Year to all listers….
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Libroffic VS pages

2015-01-05 Thread christopher hallsworth
I have no experience with LibreOffice but I do with pages. It works well for 
what I use it for, basic documents.
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 Good morning or evening wherever you may be everyone
 
 Since I know that there is a bunch of brilliant users of Mac and iOS devices 
 on this list, I have a question for every single one of you: 
 Does anyone have any user experience with Libro office verses Pages!  
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: How to get VoiceOver to read Documents

2015-01-03 Thread christopher hallsworth
How about control option a?
 On 3 Jan 2015, at 17:19, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote:
 
 The keystroke is control-command-a, not just command-a.
 hth.
 On Jan 1, 2015, at 8:23 AM, April Brown wrote:
 
 How do I get VoiceOver to read Libre Office Documents?
 
 Or even Mail, Pdf's Pages, text edit etc?
 
 CMD A does not read or beep.
 
 Two finger swipe up or down does not read anything either.
 
 With Rotor on Paragraphs, it only reads letters at a time, or occasionally 
 words.  
 
 Doesn't seem to matter if Quick Nav is on or off.  No difference.
 
 I have a whole list of ways I have tried.
 
 Eventually, I need to be able to edit.  I need to be able to read first.  
 What setting is not set?
 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Setting a different homepage in Safari

2014-12-31 Thread christopher hallsworth
Command-comma to open Preferences, interact with the toolbar, click the general 
button, stop interacting, click the use current home page button. This is after 
loading a page in the first place of course.



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 Is there an easy way to set a homepage in Safari.  Currently my Mac defaults 
 to Apple.com, and I want it to default to something else.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Question about movies from the itunes store

2014-12-28 Thread christopher hallsworth
I can't really answer this, except to say I didn't think any movies at all at 
least in the U.K. are audio described. I'm willing to stand corrected though. 
As much as I like watching them on good old DVD, it would be nice to watch them 
from places like the iTunes Store.
 On 27 Dec 2014, at 21:50, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello, 
 I am contemplating renting or buying a movie from the iTunes store but first 
 have a couple of questions. I have never purchased or rented a movie from 
 anywhere before. 
 
 When I look up a movie title on the iTunes store I see a price of around £14 
 for HD and £10 for SD. I am unclear on whether this is the rental price or 
 the purchase price. This may arise because the movies I looked up are recent 
 releases (Mr Turner and the Imitation Game) and may not be available for both 
 rental and purchase. I am primarily interested in rental. 
 
 i see that rented movies have to be watched within 30 days of download and 
 once started watching has to be completed within 48 hours. Can I only watch a 
 rented movie once within the 30 days? 
 
 both the above movies are listed as pre-order. what does this mean? 
 
 Is audio description standard in all movies from the iTunes store? If so do I 
 have to do anything special to enable audio description? If it is not 
 standard are there options to enable me to choose a version with audio 
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 not? 
 
 Many thanks for any help on the above. 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Update on iPhone.

2014-12-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
There might be a delay from the time the code was sent to when you 
receive it. If you do receive it but at that time you closed out, try 
again and it should appear momentarily. Keep doing this until you have 
entered the verification code.


On 16/12/2014 18:51, Gary Price(Gmail) wrote:

Hello everyone.

Thanks to Andy Collins one of my problems is sorted. The keyboard is now
back.

But now I've got a really really strange problem in deed.
After I've entered my passcode for my iPhone, you know how your supposed
to receive a message with a verification code in? Well I'm not getting
this at all and all its saying is enter the verification code sent to
then a load of black circles and the end of my number 91. It might take
a moment for the code to arrive.

I'm definitely connected to my network, O2 because its saying in the
status bar 3 of 5 bars.

Anyway that's the update.

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[Mac-access]: iPad Mini 2

2014-12-10 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all,
I want to share this experience with you all.
This morning I was playing with the TuneIn Radio app on my iPad Mini 2 
when all of a sudden sound quit working unless I use Siri. I then 
rebooted the device several times with no joy. I even tried the volume 
buttons with no joy either. So in the end I had to restore using iTunes. 
But lol! Find my iPad was enabled so guess what? I had to restore the 
iPad Mini 2 in recovery mode! To do this whilst connected to iTunes 
press and hold the home and sleep/wake buttons for about ten seconds, 
after which release the sleep/wake button but keep the home button down 
until you see a message from iTunes that it has detected a device in 
recovery mode. Click ok and restore as usual. You can do this even with 
Find My iPad, Find My iPhone or Find My iPod enabled. The first time was 
an absolute failure because the problem came back after restoring from 
an iTunes backup. So had to do it all over again, but this time it was a 
success after setting it up as a new device in iTunes. So all morning I 
downloaded all my apps and configure the device in general.


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Re: [Mac-access]: iPad Mini 2

2014-12-10 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Well, I can't wear headphones or at least I'm put off wearing them after 
an ear infection which nearly perforated my eardrum back in March. Sorry 
for the waffle but!


On 10/12/2014 18:19, Brian Fischler wrote:

Sorry to hear you restored your device as the same exact thing happened to me 
with the new iPad mini and all you need to do is plug in headphones to hear 
VoiceOVer and from there for some reason with headphones plugged in you can 
then raise the volume. I did soft resets and nothing and was completely lost 
when VO sound went away but for some reason plugging headphones in does the 
trick. Yet another crappy bug of the awful IOS 8
On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:


Hi all,
I want to share this experience with you all.
This morning I was playing with the TuneIn Radio app on my iPad Mini 2 when all 
of a sudden sound quit working unless I use Siri. I then rebooted the device 
several times with no joy. I even tried the volume buttons with no joy either. 
So in the end I had to restore using iTunes. But lol! Find my iPad was enabled 
so guess what? I had to restore the iPad Mini 2 in recovery mode! To do this 
whilst connected to iTunes press and hold the home and sleep/wake buttons for 
about ten seconds, after which release the sleep/wake button but keep the home 
button down until you see a message from iTunes that it has detected a device 
in recovery mode. Click ok and restore as usual. You can do this even with Find 
My iPad, Find My iPhone or Find My iPod enabled. The first time was an absolute 
failure because the problem came back after restoring from an iTunes backup. So 
had to do it all over again, but this time it was a success after setting it up 
as a new device in iTunes. So all mornin

g

   I downloaded all my apps and configure the device in general.


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Re: [Mac-access]: iPad Mini 2

2014-12-10 Thread christopher hallsworth
Would bluetooth speakers work? I may be getting these for Christmas.



 On 11 Dec 2014, at 01:34, Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 You could plug in some external speakers, just the same.
 HTH.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: iPad Mini 2
 
 
 Well, I can't wear headphones or at least I'm put off wearing them after
 an ear infection which nearly perforated my eardrum back in March. Sorry
 for the waffle but!
 
 On 10/12/2014 18:19, Brian Fischler wrote:
 Sorry to hear you restored your device as the same exact thing happened to 
 me with the new iPad mini and all you need to do is plug in headphones to 
 hear VoiceOVer and from there for some reason with headphones plugged in 
 you can then raise the volume. I did soft resets and nothing and was 
 completely lost when VO sound went away but for some reason plugging 
 headphones in does the trick. Yet another crappy bug of the awful IOS 8
 On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I want to share this experience with you all.
 This morning I was playing with the TuneIn Radio app on my iPad Mini 2 
 when all of a sudden sound quit working unless I use Siri. I then 
 rebooted the device several times with no joy. I even tried the volume 
 buttons with no joy either. So in the end I had to restore using iTunes. 
 But lol! Find my iPad was enabled so guess what? I had to restore the 
 iPad Mini 2 in recovery mode! To do this whilst connected to iTunes press 
 and hold the home and sleep/wake buttons for about ten seconds, after 
 which release the sleep/wake button but keep the home button down until 
 you see a message from iTunes that it has detected a device in recovery 
 mode. Click ok and restore as usual. You can do this even with Find My 
 iPad, Find My iPhone or Find My iPod enabled. The first time was an 
 absolute failure because the problem came back after restoring from an 
 iTunes backup. So had to do it all over again, but this time it was a 
 success after setting it up as a new device in iTunes. So all mornin
 g
   I downloaded all my apps and configure the device in general.
 
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[Mac-access]: Answering phone calls on a mac

2014-12-08 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all,
For the first time I answered a call on my mac since upgrading to 
Yosemite and iOS 8 on both iPhone and iPad, needed to confirm that I 
really wanted to add a recipient to my online bank account, they call it 
phone authentication, anyway they got me to enter four digits correctly, 
this I was able to do all with no difficulties. FaceTime opened on my 
mac with the incoming call being displayed. So pressed return to accept. 
Then, amazingly, could use the number row of keys to answer the voice 
prompts and to enter the four digits, sound quality was amazing as well.

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Re: [Mac-access]: best facebook app/client for mac user?

2014-12-02 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi,
It's actually control-f not cmd-f.

On 02/12/2014 18:56, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It sits in the menu bar  and can be grought up wiht cmd F. I love this app very 
much and have been usign the add bassed version for a year now.

On Dec 2, 2014, at 4:25 AM, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:

What are the benefits of using Menu Tab over putting m.facebook.com into 
Safari's address bar?


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

MenuTab Pro available from the Mac App Store. There is a free ad-sponsored 
version too.


On 02/12/2014 03:41, Melissa Tucker wrote:
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Re: [Mac-access]: best facebook app/client for mac user?

2014-12-02 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
The menu bar is now the extras menu as of Mountain Lion or Maverix, 
can't remember. But it can be accessed with either VO-M-M or Control-F8


On 02/12/2014 19:38, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:

Interesting, what doyou mean by sits in the Menu Bar, I have Menu Tab
for Face Book without the Adds and it sits in my Doc.
- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: best facebook app/client for mac user?



It sits in the menu bar  and can be grought up wiht cmd F. I love this
app very much and have been usign the add bassed version for a year now.

On Dec 2, 2014, at 4:25 AM, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:

What are the benefits of using Menu Tab over putting m.facebook.com
into Safari's address bar?


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Christopher Hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:

MenuTab Pro available from the Mac App Store. There is a free
ad-sponsored version too.


On 02/12/2014 03:41, Melissa Tucker wrote:
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Re: [Mac-access]: best facebook app/client for mac user?

2014-12-02 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi,
It's not there because the app must be running for it to be in the menu 
bar. If an app is in the dock, it means it's there for you to open. It's 
like the taskbar over on the other platform.


On 02/12/2014 20:02, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:

Well my Menu Tab for Face Book is not there.  Can I put it there?What
advantage would that be over it being in the Doc?
- Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: best facebook app/client for mac user?



The menu bar is now the extras menu as of Mountain Lion or Maverix,
can't remember. But it can be accessed with either VO-M-M or Control-F8

On 02/12/2014 19:38, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:

Interesting, what doyou mean by sits in the Menu Bar, I have Menu Tab
for Face Book without the Adds and it sits in my Doc.
- Original Message - From: Sarah k Alawami
marri...@gmail.com
To: mac access list iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: best facebook app/client for mac user?



It sits in the menu bar  and can be grought up wiht cmd F. I love this
app very much and have been usign the add bassed version for a year
now.

On Dec 2, 2014, at 4:25 AM, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:

What are the benefits of using Menu Tab over putting m.facebook.com
into Safari's address bar?


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Christopher Hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:

MenuTab Pro available from the Mac App Store. There is a free
ad-sponsored version too.


On 02/12/2014 03:41, Melissa Tucker wrote:
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[Mac-access]: Waltr

2014-12-01 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi all,
Just purchased Waltr. Put it simply it takes the hassle of adding music and 
videos to your iTunes library then syncing that to your iPhone, iPod or iPad. 
Totally accessible. Google for Waltr. Enjoy!



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Re: [Mac-access]: best facebook app/client for mac user?

2014-12-01 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
MenuTab Pro available from the Mac App Store. There is a free 
ad-sponsored version too.


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Re: [Mac-access]: air playing from the mac

2014-11-28 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Airfoil was $25 U.S. when I bought it.

On 28/11/2014 20:13, Dane Trethowan wrote:

airfoil Speakers is the companion app to Airfoil, you download Airfoil and you 
get Airfoil Speakers as part of the package.

Put simply Airfoil Speakers is the opposite of Airfoil itself, Airfoil streams 
AirPlay from your computer and associated device across your network whereas 
Airfoil Speakers receives AirPlay streams to your computer and outputs them to 
associated devices.
Failing that you can use AirPlay with iTunes right away to send the audio from 
iTunes to another device on your network.

As for the cost of Airfoil I can’t really help you there, I also use Windows 
and I bought the Airfoil Cross Platform bundle.



On 29 Nov 2014, at 3:06 am, matthew dyer ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com 
wrote:

Hi Tary,

There is an app which I use from time it time called air foil speakers.  I love 
this app.  I am not sure what the url is or how much it is, but you can get a 
demo of it to see if you like it or not..  HTH.

Matthew



On Nov 28, 2014, at 6:47 AM, Terry Clasper terry.clas...@btinternet.com wrote:

Hi.
I’m wondering if there’s a way of air playing from the mac with apps that don’t 
directly support it.
With the IPad etc you can airplay from control centre, is there a similar thing 
you can do from the mac lease?
Thanks a lot.
Terry
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Re: [Mac-access]: introducing my self to the list

2014-11-26 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi Adrian,
Welcome to the list. I know you already grin. To be on topic I have a 
late 2011 Macbook Pro, an iPhone 4s and iPad Mini 2 and I love them all.


On 26/11/2014 16:39, adrian wrote:


I am adrian from edmonton alberta i have a mac book air 11 inch i love it i use 
i tunes, i blink radio, ad i all so use skype and the mail app.I all so use a i 
pad minni.

```Sent from my iPad
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Re: [Mac-access]: iOS Music Question

2014-11-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
No I don't either. Guess it's one of those things, a fluke perhaps.
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 11:01, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I have turned music off Chris but how is it that there was only one album 
 duplicated?  Do not understand that.
 
 Eleanor
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 7:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: iOS Music Question
 
 
 Sounds like you have music stored in the cloud showing. To hide go to 
 settings, iTunes and App Stores and set music to off under the show all 
 heading.
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 On my iPhone I appear to have downloaded the same album twice, how do I 
 delete one copy from my iPhone.  I tried delete and double tapping but that 
 did not do anything.
 
 Eleanor
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Re: [Mac-access]: iOS Music Question

2014-11-23 Thread christopher hallsworth
Sounds like you have music stored in the cloud showing. To hide go to settings, 
iTunes and App Stores and set music to off under the show all heading.
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 On my iPhone I appear to have downloaded the same album twice, how do I 
 delete one copy from my iPhone.  I tried delete and double tapping but that 
 did not do anything.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Send Space App Login

2014-11-22 Thread christopher hallsworth
It can be done through trial and error but you may need sighted assistance to 
complete this step.
 On 22 Nov 2014, at 17:21, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
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 Hi All, I have installed this app.  However, as previously stated it is 
 fairly inaccessable.  Have registered on Send Space and have chosen my login 
 details.  However, now I do not seem to be able to enter the username and 
 jpassword using the app.  I have even tried turning off voice over but still 
 nothing seems to happen.  Any ideas please?
 
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[Mac-access]: Sendspace

2014-11-20 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi all
Is there a  program similar to or equivalent of Sendspace Wizard for Windows? 
If so is it accessible?
Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: [Mac-access]: Getting to a Link in an sms message

2014-11-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all
I have my number on Facebook but only me can see it and I don't get any 
spam at all. In fact all I get are codes which I may need because I have 
enabled login approvals on my account.


On 20/11/2014 02:23, gs wrote:

Matthew -
I did not indicate that Facebook is trying to sell me something via text 
message.  I simply said they are spamming me.

When they politely ask you to add a number, they do it under the deceptive pretense that 
it's for your own security.  The reality is that they want to inundate you with every 
status update and photo album post.  And they tell you that it is easy to stop all this.  
I think one of the first messages they send is the helpful missive that you can reply 
with stop and they will cease. This may not work.

While it may be possible to control the verbosity of SMS messages Facebook 
choses to spew just because one adds a phone number, I think the process is 
deceptive. I have grown tired of trying to find just the right setting to stop 
even the emails and have no confidence I will be able to disable the text 
messages.  So I think the best solution is to simply remove the mobile number I 
added under the assumption that it would add some security to my account.

The reason I warned you about this is that I thought you had not yet found a 
way to respond to the confirmation.  If you are satisfied with the results of 
adding the mobile number, then I'm glad you were able to get it added.



On Nov 19, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote:

Hi, Jeff.  Thanks for the heads-up.  Unlike you, I don't get a lot of spam; I just get 
people's goings on such as so-and-so's at Disneyland.  Do I really care?  But 
I haven't gotten messages trying to sell me something.  At least, I'm not getting those.  
If I was, I'd nix the phone thing.--Matthew Chao

At 09:10 AM 11/19/2014, you wrote:

Twist the rotor to links and then flick up and down.  Be aware that once you 
add your phone number to Facebook, they may spam you with more text messages 
than you bargained for.  I'm about to remove mine for this reason.

Sent from mobile device


On Nov 19, 2014, at 6:36 AM, Matthew Chao mattc...@verizon.net wrote:

Hi, Folks.  How do I get to a link in a text message on my iPhone?  I got a 
text message on my iPhone from Facebook to confirm that I want a phone number 
added on to my Facebook page.  I need the link to confirm this.  Thanks in 
advance for your help.

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Re: [Mac-access]: accessing an itunes store of another country?

2014-11-12 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
There is a my store link which you can press to bring up a list of 
countries. Choose yours and it should be set to the store appropriate to 
your country.


On 13/11/2014 03:07, Travis Siegel wrote:

You can browse the other country's stores (for some reason, for a time, my 
itunes account was set to some country in Europe (no idea how it got set that 
way).  I was able to see everything they had on offer, including things the us 
store didn't have, but I wasn't allowed to purchase any of it.
Now, as to how you change the country to browse in another location, that I 
don't know.  Honestly, I don't even remember how I fixed it, so mine showed the 
us store again, but I know it didn't require a reinstall of any sort, since 
I've never done that to any of my osx machines.  Had problems when upgrading, 
yes, but never needed to reinstall my os to fix things.
Sorry I can't be more specific, but just wanted to point out that browsing of 
other countries is possible.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Big news for all Microsoft Office and or iOS fans!

2014-11-08 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
You will need a Microsoft account to use at least the free, basic 
features. If you have an active Office 365 subscription then it will use 
that and unlock the paid for features automatically until your 
subscription has expired, then it will revert to the free, basic 
version. You can also buy various types of subscriptions inside the app.


On 08/11/2014 08:51, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:

I have downloaded this but I have not got as far as looking at Word as
there appears to be a registration.  Does this then lead to request for
information to take money?
- Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 7:22 AM
Subject: [Mac-access]: Big news for all Microsoft Office and or iOS fans!



Hi all
Yes, Microsoft Office is now available for iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad
at a right price, absolutely free! You can download the individual
apps Word, Excel and PowerPoint right now from your nearest App Store.
Best of all, it is very, very accessible! I tried both Word and Excel
and can get the basics at least done with full VoiceOver support! I
congratulate Microsoft on their efforts, and hope they keep it this
way and is a good sign for things to come, such as an accessible
Office for OS X.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Big news for all Microsoft Office and or iOS fans!

2014-11-08 Thread christopher hallsworth
You get One Drive as part of your Office 365 subscription. But you can also 
store files in Dropbox if you have one. In fact, you don't even need a 
Microsoft account to open, edit and save files in Dropbox.
 On 8 Nov 2014, at 16:11, Glenn / Lenny glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 Does this require a one-drive account, and isn't it so that the files can 
 only be stored on the cloud?
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 1:22 AM
 Subject: [Mac-access]: Big news for all Microsoft Office and or iOS fans!
 
 
 Hi all
 Yes, Microsoft Office is now available for iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad
 at a right price, absolutely free! You can download the individual apps
 Word, Excel and PowerPoint right now from your nearest App Store. Best
 of all, it is very, very accessible! I tried both Word and Excel and can
 get the basics at least done with full VoiceOver support! I congratulate
 Microsoft on their efforts, and hope they keep it this way and is a good
 sign for things to come, such as an accessible Office for OS X.
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Re: [Mac-access]: f11-F12 sounds

2014-11-07 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

System preferences, sounds.

On 07/11/2014 15:46, Ismael Herrera wrote:

  Good morning everyone;
Since upgrading to Yosemite, does anybody know how to enable the sounds for 
volume up and volume down?
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[Mac-access]: Big news for all Microsoft Office and or iOS fans!

2014-11-07 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all
Yes, Microsoft Office is now available for iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad 
at a right price, absolutely free! You can download the individual apps 
Word, Excel and PowerPoint right now from your nearest App Store. Best 
of all, it is very, very accessible! I tried both Word and Excel and can 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sorting finder with folders on top on mac?

2014-11-03 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Oh wonderful! Been looking for a similar solution myself as can't 
understand why Finder by default shows everything in alphabetical order 
with folders showing in spurious places. Hope I'm making sense.


On 03/11/2014 19:09, David Griffith wrote:

I am not sure  I agree  with this.
I find that if I am in column view
   then setting the view options with command J to arrange by name and sort by 
kind pretty much delivers this result.
For example If I do this on my documents folder I find at the top of the window 
are my folder alias files but after that the folders are all grouped together 
alphabetically followed by a similar alphabetical list of the single files in 
the . Given that that Finder pretty much treats the folder alias as a folder 
anyway this makes some sense.

So in most practical sense this this replicates the Windows or Android  or 
Linux arrangement
David Griffith
On 2014, at 17:19, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:


No there is no way. I just have learned to deal with it for the 4 years I have 
had the mac. I kind of like it this way. Why not if you want this feature go to 
apple's support page and find the feedback link. I have put many of my 
suggestions there and most of them made it.

If I am wrong let me know as I just kind of don't need this feature anymore. 
lol! I normally go by date modified only. and I have an excel spread sheet in 
my head of everything on my computer so for me finding thing is not hard about 
80 percent of the time.

On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:17 AM, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote:

hey all,
the one thing i hate about finder on the mac is that files and folders are all 
thrown together.
is there a way to put the folders at the top and the files below the folders as 
on windows?
I tried sorting my kind and that worked sort of but i still want the folders 
and files to be alphabetical.
any help on this would be fantastic.

thanks

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Re: [Mac-access]: Finally done the upgrade.

2014-10-30 Thread christopher hallsworth
Yeah, Yosemite is great! There are lags here but nothing show stopping for me 
at least. This is on a late 2011 Macbook Pro. I tried iBooks and my only 
comment so far is it's good to see it finally be accessible. Continuity 
regarding SMS at least are working. So yes, so far so good at my end.
 On 31 Oct 2014, at 04:11, Ian McNamara ianmcnamar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well after thinking about it for a while despite things i’ve heard about bugs 
 and stuff in the new update I decided to go ahead and update my mac anyway. 
 So far from what i’ve observed it seems a lot more stable although there is a 
 very slight lag with voice over when I am typing. it does not seem to be able 
 to keep up with mee for example I have my voice over set to just words 
 however when I press the space bar to start typing my next word it has around 
 a tenth of a second delay before telling me the word I am typing. However 
 this is not a bad thing as it gives me the chance to know if i’ve made any 
 mistakes before going on to type the next word making it easier to correct 
 things along the way. I am very impressed with the accessibility of iBooks 
 now and have to say they’ve done good work on making that accessible. The 
 only thing I don’t like about it is you can’t do your vo and a like you would 
 to read a document for it to read the whole book. You’ve got to press the 
 next page button when it’s finished reading the current page. I have not 
 really explored any more of the features of the OS yet but will give more 
 feedback as I do. So far though I am pretty impressed.
 
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Re: getting The The Facebook And Twitter Buttons In The Notification Center

2014-10-24 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Thank you for this, tried to post an update to both Facebook and 
Twitter, could I find the buttons could I heck. Never thought to ask as 
am one who likes to try things on my own smile. Well that's promoting 
independence.


On 24/10/2014 16:59, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

1. Launch the notifications center.
2. click today.
3. click edit.
4. edit your wigets by checking the ones you want and the ones you don't want.
5. click done.

I did a set of tutorials on this and more regarding yosemite  last week but 
they are not up for release yet.

Take care.

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Hi!

Where do you find the Facebook And Twitter buttons in the Notifications Centre 
under OS 10.10?

I’ve looked around and can only see 3 items, a series of radio buttons which 
determines what notifications and widgets are seen, the notifications table 
itself and notification preferences.

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Re: New iTunes.

2014-10-23 Thread christopher hallsworth
That's because it's not there any more. Please pay attention to the comments on 
this thread, particularly regarding keyboard shortcuts to jump to specific 
views.
 On 23 Oct 2014, at 14:03, Ian McNamara ianmcnamar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all, is there any easier way to get iTunes to work the way it did before 
 the update so we have the source table. I tried selecting the play lists 
 radio button as somebody on this list suggested but can’t get the source 
 table to appear. 
 
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Re: IOS 8.1 still

2014-10-23 Thread christopher hallsworth
Sorry but I do not have app so cannot confirm nor deny if this works.
 On 23 Oct 2014, at 02:34, michael's mail boxl michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au 
 wrote:
 
 Okay Christopher I have heard from someone that his caller id is working.does 
  my other thing is does look tell money reader work someone on the list said 
 it did not when ios 8 first came out.
 Does  it work  now thanks.
 cheers Michael.
 -Original Message- From: christopher hallsworth
 Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:43 PM
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 Subject: Re: IOS 8.1 still
 
 Here caller id still doesn't work and VoiceOver is rock solid.
 
 
 
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 Hi guys can you tell me if the caller ID for incoming calls has been fixed 
 now.
 And no more lock up  and voiceover stop talking now.
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Re: IOS 8.1 still

2014-10-22 Thread christopher hallsworth
Here caller id still doesn't work and VoiceOver is rock solid. 



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Re: IOS 8.1

2014-10-21 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Yes, this has been fixed and can be found in the accessibility fixes 
posted at Applevis.


On 21/10/2014 11:42, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Wonder if the terrible bug with the Phone keypad has been fixed? For those who 
haven’t stumbled across it - I’m sure many of you have - when typing numbers on 
the keypad sometimes the key would act as though you were holding it down even 
though you’d released your finger, you’d hear a continuous tone according to 
what key you pressed, this only seemed to happen when I was using my Bluetooth 
hands free or Headset etc.

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On 21 Oct 2014, at 9:35 pm, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

Yes iOS 8.1 is miles ahead of 8.0.2 or even 8.0. There are still bugs but most 
of the major ones are fixed such as the tones being stuck and possibly 
VoiceOver being disabled when turning on status cells in Braille settings 
although I don't have any confirmation on this. There are some pretty cool new 
features as well. But I think it's safe to say the upgrade is well worth it 
compared to 8.0x.

On 21/10/2014 04:49, michael's mail boxl wrote:

Hi guys has anyone found the new update better and fixed most the anoying
problems now.
Cheers Michael.
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Re: Anyone Notice this?

2014-10-20 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
My voices didn't change after the update either on my iPhone 4s or iPad 
Mini. I use Enhanced Quality British English on the 4s and Alex on the Mini.


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Hi, All.  I just upgraded to iOS 8.1, and noticed two things:

First, when the new upgrade was installed, I had to reselect the touch
typing feature in VO.  Has anyone else experienced this?

Second,  I wanted the full voice, but don't know if it downloaded.  How
do I get the full English/US  voice, and not the compact on?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Trying to open the download and document folder on the Dock?

2014-10-20 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

The below will work in any Finder window including open and save windows.
1. Downloads: option-command-l
2. Documents: command-shift-o
again this works from any Finder window and isn't new in Yosemite.


On 20/10/2014 21:28, Henry Miller wrote:



Hi

I cannot open either the download or document folder on the dock using VO +
spacebar or pressing the enter key.  All the other applications on the dock
open without any problems.

Is there a special command to open folders on the dock? as command plus O
does not activate.


Many thanks in advance for any help

best wishes

Henry


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Re: My turn with a 10.10 question: iCloud drive

2014-10-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Now there is. Check out Cloud Drive Explorer free in the iOS App Store.

On 19/10/2014 20:11, gs wrote:

 From what I understand, you can see all the files on the Mac, but the only way 
to access them on the phone is by using a supported app to open the files.  
What I mean is, I don't think there is any way to just generically view your 
iCloud files through a dedicated interface for that purpose on the iPhone.


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Hey to all. I was playing with iCloud drive and I have a question. I thought 
that you could see all of your documents and stuff in there but I launched it 
and I can't see anything on my phone. I also cannot se my photo library on from 
my phone to iCloud drive. Is this thing supposed to be like idisk from the old 
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so far I have a hang with everythign else.

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Re: My turn with a 10.10 question: iCloud drive

2014-10-19 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Is iCloud Drive checked in System Preferences, iCloud?

On 19/10/2014 21:20, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Actually that's the problem. I don't see the files on the mac. I see empty 
table when I hit cmd shift i fromthe finder.

On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:11 PM, gs geoffsli...@gmail.com wrote:

 From what I understand, you can see all the files on the Mac, but the only way 
to access them on the phone is by using a supported app to open the files.  
What I mean is, I don't think there is any way to just generically view your 
iCloud files through a dedicated interface for that purpose on the iPhone.


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Re: Getting Yosemite

2014-10-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Going to upgrade tomorrow or over the weekend.


Sent from my laptop

On 16/10/2014 21:38, @ wrote:

I'm not seeing it either. Maybe just too early.
Don



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Date: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:35 pm
Subject: Getting Yosemite




Hi, Folks.  I want to upgrade to Yosemite, but not sure how.  Will Software 
Update do this, or do I go to the App Store and search for it?  I tried to get 
it through Software Update, but no success.  I listened to the event today, and 
it was mentioned that Yosemite would be released today.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: Getting Yosemite

2014-10-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
No it's out today trust us on that. You will see it probably on the home 
page of the Mac App Store. You do not update via software update.



Sent from my laptop

On 16/10/2014 22:01, Matthew Chao wrote:

Listened to the “event” today, and thought it was supposed to be released 
today.  Oh well …

Matthew Chao


On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Arthur Barney abar...@personainternet.com wrote:


Won't be out till later this fall.

Sent from my iPod


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it was mentioned that Yosemite would be released today.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: Getting Yosemite

2014-10-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

It's for the public now. It was only for developers until then.


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On 16/10/2014 22:28, Arthur Barney wrote:

I thought it was only for developers!

Sent from my iPod


On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

No it's out today trust us on that. You will see it probably on the home page 
of the Mac App Store. You do not update via software update.


Sent from my laptop


On 16/10/2014 22:01, Matthew Chao wrote:
Listened to the “event” today, and thought it was supposed to be released 
today.  Oh well …

Matthew Chao



On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Arthur Barney abar...@personainternet.com wrote:

Won't be out till later this fall.

Sent from my iPod


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Hi, Folks.  I want to upgrade to Yosemite, but not sure how.  Will Software 
Update do this, or do I go to the App Store and search for it?  I tried to get 
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Re: ios 7.1

2014-10-15 Thread christopher hallsworth
This has not changed in iOS 8. Most of the time VoiceOver's rotor does 
automatically switch to action but some of the time it doesn't at all or it 
does then all of a sudden change to something like characters without warning. 
No big deal though; I just use the rotor to go back to actions and it sticks.

Sent from my Macbook Pro

On 15 Oct 2014, at 06:49, michael's mail boxl michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au 
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 Hi guys I have not updated to ios 8 yet.
 But my question is in the sms app when I want to delete some messages the 
 delete button does not always appear after i flick up or down for the option 
 for more.
 Some times it is and other times i must cancil it and flick again and the 
 delete is their.
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Re: Magnifier?

2014-10-15 Thread christopher hallsworth
It does; Zoom. Since I only have light perception I cannot comment on how well 
it works against VoiceOver.

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 Does the Mac have a built-in screen magnifier??
 
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread christopher hallsworth
It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no right or 
wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me and can cope with 
bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch this space for announcements 
and posts on updates then decide from there. Good luck! 

Sent from my iPad 

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 Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
 Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
I agree but now I'm coming to terms with the fact some just do not want 
to update until the bugs are ironed out which is unnecessary but there 
you go. Each uses our own devices in different ways and think some are 
scared their habits will be taken away with the update which isn't true 
at all. As a beta tester I can tell you there were terrible bugs 
initially with iOS 8, most of which were fixed as the betas progressed 
to Gold Master and beyond.



Sent from my laptop

On 13/10/2014 15:25, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:

I am a bit like you Chris in that way, like to take the update and then
see what the bugs are and then how they get resolved.  They are not so
bad as not to be able to use the device.
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: ios 8



It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no
right or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me
and can cope with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch
this space for announcements and posts on updates then decide from
there. Good luck!

Sent from my iPad


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Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread christopher hallsworth
No you can't as Apple stopped signing 7.1.2 a few weeks ago making downgrading 
impossible.

Sent from my Macbook Pro

On 13 Oct 2014, at 20:17, Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 i updated my iPad mini 1st generation the other day. and well. i have came 
 across more glitches and bugs that have actually made the iPad impossible to 
 use. for example, i am trying to type notes in class, and voice over keeps 
 turning on and off on and off on and off. there is no scrolling visually, the 
 screen just sticks in one location, etc. As far as i am concerned, IOS8 is 
 the worst ios implemented… Can i revert to IOS7 now that i have this brutal 
 system in the iPad?
 On Oct 13, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I agree but now I'm coming to terms with the fact some just do not want to 
 update until the bugs are ironed out which is unnecessary but there you go. 
 Each uses our own devices in different ways and think some are scared their 
 habits will be taken away with the update which isn't true at all. As a beta 
 tester I can tell you there were terrible bugs initially with iOS 8, most of 
 which were fixed as the betas progressed to Gold Master and beyond.
 
 
 Sent from my laptop
 
 On 13/10/2014 15:25, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
 I am a bit like you Chris in that way, like to take the update and then
 see what the bugs are and then how they get resolved.  They are not so
 bad as not to be able to use the device.
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: ios 8
 
 
 It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no
 right or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me
 and can cope with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch
 this space for announcements and posts on updates then decide from
 there. Good luck!
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box
 michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
 Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
 Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
 Cheers michael.
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A note on iCloud Mail, third party clients and two step verification

2014-10-10 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all

If you do not have two step verification enabled on your Apple ID, you 
can safely ignore this message. If you do, I have a note for you. The 
below took effect as of today.


If you use third party clients such as Microsoft Outlook or Mozilla 
Thunderbird to manage your iCloud Mail account, you must now generate an 
app specific password before you can use it again. Previously it was 
possible to use your Apple ID password to log into iCloud Mail even if 
you have two step verification enabled. For good reasons of course this 
now no longer works and instead you must do the above. To do so, go to

http://appleid.apple.com
sign in with your Apple ID, verify your identity, click the passwords 
and security tab then click generate app specific password link.


Thank you for reading.
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Re: Can I change the name iTunes gives to my iPhone?

2014-10-06 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

It's easier to do it under settings general about.


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Hello,
Is it possible to change the iPhone name which iTunes allocates when you first 
set up an iPhone? I ask as I have an iPhone 3GS and an iPhone 5S which have 
confusingly similar names. I would like to change the name allocated to one of 
them.

Note that when I first connected the iPhone 5S to my iMac I asked it to restore 
the backup of my iPhone 3GS. Maybe that is why they have similar names!

When I get a decent case for the 5S I will use that by default but will keep 
the 3GS as a backup phone.

Many thanks.

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Re: icloud storage management does not show the storage space with the corresponding prices

2014-09-29 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Just curious but have you sent this to Apple Accessibility as well? If 
not I'm happy to do this.



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summery: when viewing the iCloud storage  prices, the sizes do not show up with 
voice over on. this is a high priority bug that should have been fixed before 
iOS 8 release.

steps to reproduce

1. launch voice over
2. go to settings
3. go to iCloud
4. click  storage and back up
5. click manage storage
6 notice that the prices show up but the sizes do not.

regression: this did not happen a few weeks before iOS 8 release.

Note: this is a high priority bug that should be looked at before iCloud drive 
goes live so that most problems having to do with this can be resolved.
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Re: App Store Update

2014-09-29 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
I never read all 36 pages and was still able to agree to the terms. Try 
a four finger tap towards the bottom of the screen this should jump to 
the bottom of the window where the buttons are.



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After upgrading to IOS8, my one remaining drudgery task
is the update to the app store. The drudgery part is that
36-page legal masterpiece that one must agree to in order to
make the update happen so life can go on and the Earth won't get
stuck on it's axis causing the ocean to boil.

There are 36 pages in the agreement and I am not sure if
you must click agree on each one or what. There are the same
buttons for each page. There is Cancel, then the text,
a link to send the agreement by email, Previous page, Next page
and then the Agree button
The design is clever in that you can not just tap next
page 36 times and you're done. You must alternate between the
text and the next page button to see the next page.
The strange part was when I got to Page 36 of 36 and
read it. I am not sure what one is supposed to do next because
nothing changes. You are at the end of the agreement and there
are the same buttons. Clicking Agree does nothing except you
hear it echoed by the iPad's voice.
It's like, What next? There are no complaints or errors but you
can't seem to go forward.
I tested the send agreement by email link and that
worked just fine so those of you who have already done this, how
do you get to the next step? Thanks.

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Re: Type2Phone and IOS 8.0.2

2014-09-28 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all

My guess is since Type2Phone emulates a bluetooth keyboards the same 
bugs that affect physical bluetooth keyboards will also occur with 
emulations such as this app.



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Hello,
I have recently acquired an iPhone 5S which is now running IOS 8.0.2.

I also have an iPhone 3GS running the latest IOS 6. On the 3GS I found it very 
handy to use type2Phone on my iMac to emulate a bluetooth keyboard for entering 
passwords and the like on the iPhone. With their mixtures of characters, 
numbers, cases and symbols these are rather tricky to enter using the iPhone 
virtual keyboard.

to my dismay type2Phone does not work with the iPhone 5S. Pressing the cursor 
left and right keys moves between fields on the iPhone but typing letters or 
numbers does not do anything on the iPhone.

I have keyboard and numpad and trackpad commanders turned on and quicknav 
turned off. I tried turning numpad commander off but that made no difference.

Presumably these problems are  related to the other posts on IOS 8 and 
bluetooth keyboard issues.

Are there any workarounds to this problem?
Many thanks.

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Re: Type2Phone and IOS 8.0.2

2014-09-28 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
No but I am fully aware of the numerous bluetooth keyboard bugs present 
in the initial iOS 8 release with a small bug fix in 8.0.2. I was going 
to do some testing after hearing about it but didn't find the time to do 
so. I can do it this week though if you like.



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On 28/09/2014 12:18, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:

Have you tested it?
- Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: Type2Phone and IOS 8.0.2



Hi all

My guess is since Type2Phone emulates a bluetooth keyboards the same
bugs that affect physical bluetooth keyboards will also occur with
emulations such as this app.


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On 28/09/2014 11:41, Paul Hopewell wrote:

Hello,
I have recently acquired an iPhone 5S which is now running IOS 8.0.2.

I also have an iPhone 3GS running the latest IOS 6. On the 3GS I
found it very handy to use type2Phone on my iMac to emulate a
bluetooth keyboard for entering passwords and the like on the iPhone.
With their mixtures of characters, numbers, cases and symbols these
are rather tricky to enter using the iPhone virtual keyboard.

to my dismay type2Phone does not work with the iPhone 5S. Pressing
the cursor left and right keys moves between fields on the iPhone but
typing letters or numbers does not do anything on the iPhone.

I have keyboard and numpad and trackpad commanders turned on and
quicknav turned off. I tried turning numpad commander off but that
made no difference.

Presumably these problems are  related to the other posts on IOS 8
and bluetooth keyboard issues.

Are there any workarounds to this problem?
Many thanks.

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Re: Family sharing with iOS eight

2014-09-28 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
You can share certain apps but you can also share music, movies and 
books too.



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On 21/09/2014 23:38, eleanor martha burke wrote:

is this a form of sharing apps?

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 21 Sep 2014, at 23:34, Amber M thetravele...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Jessica,
Actually, double tap on the name of the family member. And then there are apps 
will be displayed. Download as normal.
HTH,
Amber M

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Does anyone know how to download content with family sharing in iOS 8? I tried 
to do it and it says to tap the cloud button. I only see my family members name 
and no options next to it. Do you think maybe this is a bug with VoiceOver?

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Re: Upgrading to iOS 8: Having A Problem Upgrading

2014-09-27 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Try that maybe the phone is in recovery mode and so requires a restore 
from iTunes.



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Hello,

Today we have decided to update our various iPhones and iPads.

We started with my son-in-law’s iPhone and have found that his phone isn’t 
responding. We have left it for over an hour and it’s at a blank screen.

He started the process connected to power, starting the upgrade directly from 
the phone.

Wondering if we should do the upgrades using our Macs?

Any thoughts/suggestions.

Thanks in advance.

Leo




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Re: iPhone cleaning app.

2014-09-25 Thread christopher hallsworth
Is it called Kruftose? I use this app. It used to be called iClean then it got 
changed to iEncript with the i instead of the y and now it's called something 
like Kruftose. Anyway this app cleans the device by encrypting the free space 
left by deleting data off it. I guess this means it wipes the free space so it 
makes it harder to retrieve the deleted data.

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 Can anyone recommend a good accessible iPhone cleaner app?
 
 
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Re: Enabling touch typing on iPhone

2014-09-25 Thread christopher hallsworth
In iOS 8 you can now change the typing mode by going to settings  general  
accessibility  VoiceOver and by double tapping on typing style. Alternatively, 
activate any virtual keyboard, use the rotor to select typing mode then flick 
up or down with one finger to select touch typing.

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 Hello, 
 Can someone please remind me how to enable touch typing on an iPhone. This is 
 the typing mode where you slide your finger across the virtual keyboard and 
 when you hear the desired character you lift your finger off the virtual 
 keyboard and presto that character is entered. 
 
 I had this working on IOS 6 but after restoring my IOS 6 backup on an IOS 8 
 device the touch typing no longer works. I have searched everywhere to try to 
 turn it back on but with no success. I then tried looking for the option to 
 turn it on on IOS 6 but could not find it there either. 
 
 Many thanks. 
 
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Re: iPhone backup and restore

2014-09-23 Thread christopher hallsworth
No. When you do a backup with iTunes it just backs up the data currently stored 
on there. Any apps not in iTunes will also be transferred. You cannot backup or 
restore iOS.

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 Hello, 
 Does backup and restore of an iPhone to iTunes just backup my Apps and their 
 associated data, or does it also backup and restore IOS? 
 
 If I backup an iPhone 3GS running IOS 6 and later restore that to an iPhone 
 5S running IOS 8 will the iPhone 5S now be set to IOS 6?
 
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Re: Installing ios 8

2014-09-22 Thread christopher hallsworth
The idea is to directly touch the letter then it will be inserted hence the 
name direct touch typing. It works similar to Fleksy but without the word 
prediction capabilities.

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On 20 Sep 2014, at 00:09, Shaun Oliver blindma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can someone please explain to me what this direct touch typing is? As far as
 I can make out, it's not dissimilar to the standard typing where you need to
 do a split tap or double tap on the letters to make them appear.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of George Cham
 Sent: Saturday, 20 September 2014 08:02
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: Installing ios 8
 
 Okay it's all installed and up and running
 
 
 George,
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
 On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:01 am, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 At least the phone won't brick if the software can't download. so yeah
 wait until like monday. As for me I have the update file already stored so
 I'm not worried. I'll install when I am back home.
 
 Tc and be blessed to all.
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Juanita Martin jordmar...@suddenlink.net
 wrote:
 
 I would wait for a few days to try downloading and installing it again.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 wrote:
 
 I am trying to install ios 8on I phone and I pad, the message I'm
 getting is. 
 Your software update request has been received, you will be notified
 when download is complete and ready to install. 
 
 This message has not changed for a few  hours. 
 What do I do? Can I stop the process and start again? 
 
 
 
 
 George,
 
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Re: iphone question.

2014-09-22 Thread christopher hallsworth
You can probably only get a 4s second hand or refurbished as Apple stopped 
selling them as of the launch of the iPhone 6/6+. The oldest phone you can get 
now is the 5c which is a rebranded 5 but with a plastic shell and a choice of 
several colours hence the c. iOS 8 is the latest and probably last release to 
run on the 4s. It runs ok but a little slow but that's to be expected on three 
year old hardware. Good luck in whatever you decide.

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 Hi guys I was wondering if many folks are still useing iphone 4s.
 Are they a good phone still and what is the latest IOS it can run easy.
 I am thinking of buying an 4S or a 5.
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Re: Weird noises with the update

2014-09-22 Thread christopher hallsworth
We don't think we're getting the hisses here on our iPhone 4s. Maybe it's to do 
with the Seven Little Words app.

Sent from my Macbook Pro

On 22 Sep 2014, at 14:05, Juaanita Marttin jordmar...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 Ever since I updated my Iphone 5, I hear this hiss whenever VO is speaking.  
 Also, the sound effects seem to drop in volume.  I didn’t notice the drop in 
 volume until I opened Seven little words for the first time after the update. 
  Has anyone else heard these differences?  For now, I’ve just turned the 
 sound effects off.
 
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Re: 3 gs phones.

2014-09-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
A friend had 6 on her 3GS. It ran ok but slow just like the upcoming 8 
will be for the 4s. As each new iOS is released the device becomes slower.


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On 16/09/2014 06:13, michael's mail boxl wrote:

Hi guys I have an Iphone 3GS and I still am running IOS 5.1.
I have the new update 6 but I do not want to install it just incase it makes
my phone too slow.
Is anyone running version 6 on an old phone to try it out.
Cheers Michael.
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Re: 3 gs phones.

2014-09-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Hard to describe but it was very usable but slow in things like opening 
apps. It may take a few seconds compared to a second or so on newer phones.


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On 16/09/2014 07:26, michael's mail boxl wrote:

Hi Christopher it sounds like i should not update.
Was it just slow to turn on and surf the net I would expect while
sending and recieving test messagers it would not slow up much.
Cheers michael.

-Original Message- From: Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:08 PM
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: 3 gs phones.

A friend had 6 on her 3GS. It ran ok but slow just like the upcoming 8
will be for the 4s. As each new iOS is released the device becomes slower.

Christopher Hallsworth
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On 16/09/2014 06:13, michael's mail boxl wrote:

Hi guys I have an Iphone 3GS and I still am running IOS 5.1.
I have the new update 6 but I do not want to install it just incase it
makes
my phone too slow.
Is anyone running version 6 on an old phone to try it out.
Cheers Michael.
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Re: Trying to Find VmWare Fusion 7

2014-09-09 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

I would go to
www.vmware.com/go/tryfusion
this should download Fusion directly.


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On 09/09/2014 01:21, Matthew Chao wrote:

Hi, Folks.  I’ve logged on to my account, gone to the Downloads section, and 
still can’t find the file to download.  Has anyone else had this problem?  
Thanks in advance.

Matthew Chao

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Re: Trying to Find VmWare Fusion 7

2014-09-09 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Looks like they're the same as for Fusion 6.

Christopher Hallsworth
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On 09/09/2014 12:18, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:

Have you used it Chris?  How much memory on hard drive does one require
to run Windows and Osx 10?
- Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: Trying to Find VmWare Fusion 7


I would go to
www.vmware.com/go/tryfusion
this should download Fusion directly.


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On 09/09/2014 01:21, Matthew Chao wrote:

Hi, Folks.  I’ve logged on to my account, gone to the Downloads
section, and still can’t find the file to download.  Has anyone else
had this problem?  Thanks in advance.

Matthew Chao

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